Teaching biblical truth could get your kids taken away

[JoeB131]

Will they give back some of their pay if there is no profit or a loss? Will they put up their own property as collateral for loans to keep the business afloat?

Spare me your Marxist bullshit.

so your argument is that because bigger capitalists cheat the smaller capitalists, it's okay for the capitalists to cheat the people who do the work?

This is your argument,eh?

Guy, here's the thing. When there is a loss, we do end up giving back our pay. We often lose our jobs when we get replaced by someone who will work cheaper.

Teaching kids the simple truths is illegal.
Like we are born with penises, men, or without, women. That feeling like a woman when your a man is a mental disease much like feeling like a dog, or a hippopotamus would be.

so what offends you about Trans women is that they deny their masculinity. I'm still wondering how this really has any effet on your life.

 

[edthecynic]

Teaching biblical truth could get your kids taken away

There is no such thing as "biblical truth."

 

[Bob Blaylock]

so what offends you about Trans women is that they deny their masculinity. I'm still wondering how this really has any effet on your life.

What is offensive, here, to sane people, is the demand that we treat as truth what any sane person can clearly see to be an insane and immoral falsehood. A “trans women” is not, and never will be an actual woman, and there is no good or rational reason to pretend that he is, nor to sacrifice the safety, modesty, and well-being of actual women in order to cater to such a freak.

 

[JoeB131]

What is offensive, here, to sane people, is the demand that we treat as truth what any sane person can clearly see to be an insane and immoral falsehood. A “trans women” is not, and never will be an actual woman, and there is no good or rational reason to pretend that he is, nor to sacrifice the safety, modesty, and well-being of actual women in order to cater to such a freak.

still not hearing how this has any effect on your life, dude.

I frankly don't get the whole "Trans" thing. Someone I knew back in the 1980's recently came out as a trans woman, and I had no idea. But you know what, at the end of the day he/she wasn't hurting anyone and did his/her job just fine.

Just because it offends your bronze age superstitions, really isn't my problem.

 

[martybegan]

So you laugh at a local business guy going under, and those jobs disappearing. and what does a Mcdonalds have to do with child labor?

You realize that most McDonald's hire teenagers, right?

Then there is a the New Testament with Jesus Christ which made such blatherings obsolete.

Except it did no such thing. We didn't end slavery or burning witches because Jesus revoked the old laws. We revoked the old laws because we realized they were cruel and stupid. God didn't change his mind, we changed ours.

Who cares? The fact is even our freaking poor are better off than middle class people 100 years ago. There will always be inequality in wealth, all getting government involved does is make the top people shift a bit. George Orwell saw that when he wrote 1984, and he was a freaking socialist.

Actually, dumbass, we did just fine in that period after WWII, when the workforce was mostly unionized, the rich paid confiscatory taxes.

Teenagers are not "child labor". My father had me get my working papers at 16, and I am a better person for it today. Also had my paper route papers at 12.

Stop combing post responses you lazy ****.

The confiscatory taxes were for the war effort, and those taxes really only impacted 50 or so people. Now the government considers you "rich" after 250k, and in NYC that isn't realy rich.

 

[martybegan]

Will they give back some of their pay if there is no profit or a loss? Will they put up their own property as collateral for loans to keep the business afloat?

Spare me your Marxist bullshit.

so your argument is that because bigger capitalists cheat the smaller capitalists, it's okay for the capitalists to cheat the people who do the work?

This is your argument,eh?

Guy, here's the thing. When there is a loss, we do end up giving back our pay. We often lose our jobs when we get replaced by someone who will work cheaper.

Teaching kids the simple truths is illegal.
Like we are born with penises, men, or without, women. That feeling like a woman when your a man is a mental disease much like feeling like a dog, or a hippopotamus would be.

so what offends you about Trans women is that they deny their masculinity. I'm still wondering how this really has any effet on your life.

No I am saying you have to account for risk. When a person gets paid investors and creditors cannot go after them if the business fails. For the owner, that protection isn't there.

That isn't a real "loss", you are not losing anything you have already earned.

Why don't you just come out full commie like you are acting?

 

[JoeB131]

Teenagers are not "child labor". My father had me get my working papers at 16, and I am a better person for it today. Also had my paper route papers at 12.

Again, given your lack of compassion for people who weren't born with the white privilages you have, I have to question if you are a better person.

Of course, today nobody reads newspapers anymore, so it's not like we can make the kids get paper routes. Today most newspapers are delivered by adults because they have cars.

Which brings us back to the point. THere are more people willing to do work than there is work to be done. So now what?

The ironic thing is, what you wingnuts advocate is making people work jobs that don't pay a living wage and having government m ake up the difference, and you wonder why you get more government.

The confiscatory taxes were for the war effort, and those taxes really only impacted 50 or so people. Now the government considers you "rich" after 250k, and in NYC that isn't realy rich.

If you are making 250K, you can afford to pay your taxes.

 

[martybegan]

Teenagers are not "child labor". My father had me get my working papers at 16, and I am a better person for it today. Also had my paper route papers at 12.

Again, given your lack of compassion for people who weren't born with the white privilages you have, I have to question if you are a better person.

Of course, today nobody reads newspapers anymore, so it's not like we can make the kids get paper routes. Today most newspapers are delivered by adults because they have cars.

Which brings us back to the point. THere are more people willing to do work than there is work to be done. So now what?

The ironic thing is, what you wingnuts advocate is making people work jobs that don't pay a living wage and having government m ake up the difference, and you wonder why you get more government.

The confiscatory taxes were for the war effort, and those taxes really only impacted 50 or so people. Now the government considers you "rich" after 250k, and in NYC that isn't realy rich.

If you are making 250K, you can afford to pay your taxes.

Lol, white privilege. That may apply to trust fund babies, but not to the son of a check sorting machine technician and a nurse.

And there are plenty of other things for kids to do if their parents want them to work, bagging groceries for example.

No, we support people moving from entry level jobs to jobs that add enough value to a product or service to provide a living wage without government interference.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

still not hearing how this has any effect on your life, dude.

I frankly don't get the whole "Trans" thing. Someone I knew back in the 1980's recently came out as a trans woman, and I had no idea. But you know what, at the end of the day he/she wasn't hurting anyone and did his/her job just fine.

Just because it offends your bronze age superstitions, really isn't my problem.

It affects me because I have a wife, I have a mother, I have a sister, and I have a great number of other female acquaintances. As a man, it is my responsibility and my duty to protect them from the insane, immoral freaks whose side you choose to take against them.

If it was your wife, your daughter, your mother, your sister, or whomever else, being followed into a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, or similar facility by one of these perverts, would you be OK with that? You would not, if you had even the slightest value as a man.

But then what point is there in arguing with someone who thinks that such responsibility, along with certain obvious principles of hard science and biology, are nothing more than “bronze-age superstitions”?

 

[MindWars]

Teaching biblical truth could get your kids taken away

There is no such thing as "biblical truth."

There's no such thing as democratic truth. Historical truth which left behind evidence proves other wise. Something Democratic teaching threw in the trash. HISTORY was lost in your heads a long time ago.

 

[Cellblock2429]

May 17, 2017 - While Americans are subjected to a political circus in our nation's capital, riots, shortages, and repression are rocking the streets of Venezuela ..

Yes, the Corporate world has done a very good job at waging economic war on the people of Venezuela for daring to defy them. What is your point?

2.) I didn't say Sales would be the only path. It's the one I chose. Google highest paying jobs and see what else is out there. BTW I knew sleazy people in all professions and some real top notch people including Sales.

Actually, no, it's a pretty sleazy profession. The point is, the LIE that all you need to do is get the right education or skills and the world will beat path to your door is horseshit. The One Percent will ALWAYS try to screw working people as long as they put up with it.

3.) When folks mention tax we generally mean INCOME TAX. Sorry I didn't spell that out for you.

So you basically made a point that was completely irrelevent, as Income Tax (which should ONLY be paid by the rich to start with, as intended) doesn't touch the retired and the poor. These folks still pay social security, medicare, sales, property, fees, and other ways the government finds to separate the 80% from the meager 13% of the economy we have.

/---- As a professional sales rep with over 35 years experience I 'd like to know why you think sales is a sleazy profession. BTW if you ever applied for a job, as an applicant, you were in sales selling yourself.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Always with your "us against them" mentality

But if figures you have that, because you have repeatedly blamed all the supposed failures in your life on others. You are like a petulant 2 year old that can't take any fault, it's always "those guys fault"

Actually, I blame others for what they did, but usually I overcome them. The guy who jerked me around in 2008 spends a lot of time ingratiating himself to me now to get business.

All that said, you avoided the point. We have welfare because we had wealth inequality. Full stop. There's enough wealth in this country to put everyone in a nice, middle class lifestyle. Fair wage laws, a guarunteed job for every able-bodied American, you wouldn't have any welfare.

Except for sick and old people, those slackers...

/----- We have welfare because of stupid life choices and I don't mean the sick and informed.


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

How about being bi-polar. I got no choice in the matter. Without the VA and my medical care I would be a Raving maniac who belongs in jail. AND IT'S NOT MY ******* CHOICE!!!!!!!!

/----- Thank you for your service and sorry for your condition. Auto correct on my iPhone but I meant to post infirmed not informed. And yes you should receive the medical care you need even if you can't afford it.

 

[Cellblock2429]

May 17, 2017 - While Americans are subjected to a political circus in our nation's capital, riots, shortages, and repression are rocking the streets of Venezuela ..

Yes, the Corporate world has done a very good job at waging economic war on the people of Venezuela for daring to defy them. What is your point?

2.) I didn't say Sales would be the only path. It's the one I chose. Google highest paying jobs and see what else is out there. BTW I knew sleazy people in all professions and some real top notch people including Sales.

Actually, no, it's a pretty sleazy profession. The point is, the LIE that all you need to do is get the right education or skills and the world will beat path to your door is horseshit. The One Percent will ALWAYS try to screw working people as long as they put up with it.

3.) When folks mention tax we generally mean INCOME TAX. Sorry I didn't spell that out for you.

So you basically made a point that was completely irrelevent, as Income Tax (which should ONLY be paid by the rich to start with, as intended) doesn't touch the retired and the poor. These folks still pay social security, medicare, sales, property, fees, and other ways the government finds to separate the 80% from the meager 13% of the economy we have.

/---- As a professional sales rep with over 35 years experience I 'd like to know why you think sales is a sleazy profession. BTW if you ever applied for a job, as an applicant, you were in sales selling yourself.

May 17, 2017 - While Americans are subjected to a political circus in our nation's capital, riots, shortages, and repression are rocking the streets of Venezuela ..

Yes, the Corporate world has done a very good job at waging economic war on the people of Venezuela for daring to defy them. What is your point?

2.) I didn't say Sales would be the only path. It's the one I chose. Google highest paying jobs and see what else is out there. BTW I knew sleazy people in all professions and some real top notch people including Sales.

Actually, no, it's a pretty sleazy profession. The point is, the LIE that all you need to do is get the right education or skills and the world will beat path to your door is horseshit. The One Percent will ALWAYS try to screw working people as long as they put up with it.

3.) When folks mention tax we generally mean INCOME TAX. Sorry I didn't spell that out for you.

So you basically made a point that was completely irrelevent, as Income Tax (which should ONLY be paid by the rich to start with, as intended) doesn't touch the retired and the poor. These folks still pay social security, medicare, sales, property, fees, and other ways the government finds to separate the 80% from the meager 13% of the economy we have.

/---- So using your logic - the wealthy pay "social security, medicare, sales, property, fees, and other ways" in addition to the income tax. Interesting.

 

[JoeB131]

Lol, white privilege. That may apply to trust fund babies, but not to the son of a check sorting machine technician and a nurse.

Again, you could ride around you neighborhood without fear of a cop shooting you... so that's kind of "privilege" that a lot of black kids don't enjoy.

If there actually was a God (thankfully there isn't), I'd be on my knees thanking him every day I was born a white dude.

No, we support people moving from entry level jobs to jobs that add enough value to a product or service to provide a living wage without government interference.

Again, as I've said, if the one Percenters can exploit the burger flippers, they'll exploit the rest of us.

It affects me because I have a wife, I have a mother, I have a sister, and I have a great number of other female acquaintances. As a man, it is my responsibility and my duty to protect them from the insane, immoral freaks whose side you choose to take against them.

Really? Because you guys babble this all day, but the fact is, you have yet to cite a case of a tranny actually bothering anyone in a bathroom. The reality of it is that your hypothetical relatives have probably peed next to a tranny and never knew it.

If it was your wife, your daughter, your mother, your sister, or whomever else, being followed into a women's restroom, locker room, dressing room, or similar facility by one of these perverts, would you be OK with that? You would not, if you had even the slightest value as a man.

I have enough respect for women to realize they are capable of handling themselves if someone act inappropriately. Not that kind of thing ever happens.

 

[JoeB131]

/---- So using your logic - the wealthy pay "social security, medicare, sales, property, fees, and other ways" in addition to the income tax. Interesting.

Not to the degree the working class does. For instance, SS caps out at 114K.. after that, they don't pay it.

 

[keepitreal]

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,
but against principalities, against powers,
against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Ephesians 6:12


Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.

Matthew 13:13

The devil is real...he is alive and well...
but, so is the one, true living God and Christ

Bible prophecy is unfolding before our very eyes
God is preparing the way for the return of Christ

For those who have hardened their hearts,
open your hearts before it is too late,
so you can perceive what you have been too blind to see
and gain the wisdom to understand as much!

 

[Slyhunter]

Teaching kids the simple truths is illegal.
Like we are born with penises, men, or without, women. That feeling like a woman when your a man is a mental disease much like feeling like a dog, or a hippopotamus would be.

so what offends you about Trans women is that they deny their masculinity. I'm still wondering how this really has any effet on your life.

how about them sharing bathrooms with our underage girls.
What happens in private is none of our business, but what happens in public is everyone's.

 

[Slyhunter]

Which brings us back to the point. THere are more people willing to do work than there is work to be done. So now what?

The ironic thing is, what you wingnuts advocate is making people work jobs that don't pay a living wage and having government m ake up the difference, and you wonder why you get more government.

If you are making 250K, you can afford to pay your taxes.

Actually they don't want government to make up the difference. That is the problem. If your not making a living wage how do you live?

 

[Moonglow]

Which brings us back to the point. THere are more people willing to do work than there is work to be done. So now what?

The ironic thing is, what you wingnuts advocate is making people work jobs that don't pay a living wage and having government m ake up the difference, and you wonder why you get more government.

If you are making 250K, you can afford to pay your taxes.

Actually they don't want government to make up the difference. That is the problem. If your not making a living wage how do you live?

Discarded pizza boxes are an invaluable source of cheese..

 

[Slyhunter]

May 17, 2017 - While Americans are subjected to a political circus in our nation's capital, riots, shortages, and repression are rocking the streets of Venezuela ..

Yes, the Corporate world has done a very good job at waging economic war on the people of Venezuela for daring to defy them. What is your point?

2.) I didn't say Sales would be the only path. It's the one I chose. Google highest paying jobs and see what else is out there. BTW I knew sleazy people in all professions and some real top notch people including Sales.

Actually, no, it's a pretty sleazy profession. The point is, the LIE that all you need to do is get the right education or skills and the world will beat path to your door is horseshit. The One Percent will ALWAYS try to screw working people as long as they put up with it.

3.) When folks mention tax we generally mean INCOME TAX. Sorry I didn't spell that out for you.

So you basically made a point that was completely irrelevent, as Income Tax (which should ONLY be paid by the rich to start with, as intended) doesn't touch the retired and the poor. These folks still pay social security, medicare, sales, property, fees, and other ways the government finds to separate the 80% from the meager 13% of the economy we have.

/---- As a professional sales rep with over 35 years experience I 'd like to know why you think sales is a sleazy profession. BTW if you ever applied for a job, as an applicant, you were in sales selling yourself.

I work as customer service in a company that sells stuff. Too many times I've had to field calls from customers who were sold stuff that wouldn't work on their car, and then finding out we didn't make that particular stuff for their car and instead of loosing the sale the sales person sold them the wrong stuff.

Or the sales person lies and says something is in stock that is really backordered for weeks sometimes months. If they told the truth they would've lost the sale.

When nothing matters but making the sale, then you loose your ethical side to make the bucks.