Teaching biblical truth could get your kids taken away

[JoeB131]

Where does the bible order every Christian to kill their children?
If you are referring to the one story of Abraham, you don't understand the meaning of it.

I honestly wonder if you Christians even read your own bible.

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21



He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. -- Exodus 21:15


He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17

The owner has to pay their home bills also , like monthly bills ,food and clothing for the family just like all of the other employees do.
You don't seem to get that a business must make profits in order to stay in business.

And it's not my problem to worry about every under capitalized business.

 

[peach174]

Where does the bible order every Christian to kill their children?
If you are referring to the one story of Abraham, you don't understand the meaning of it.

I honestly wonder if you Christians even read your own bible.

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21



He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. -- Exodus 21:15


He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17

The owner has to pay their home bills also , like monthly bills ,food and clothing for the family just like all of the other employees do.
You don't seem to get that a business must make profits in order to stay in business.

And it's not my problem to worry about every under capitalized business.

Yes we do read it and after Jesus death we are no longer under the old rules.
How about you reading it, seems you missed that part.

My comment had nothing to do with ,under capitalized.
You're still stuck on starting a business.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Where does the bible order every Christian to kill their children?
If you are referring to the one story of Abraham, you don't understand the meaning of it.

I honestly wonder if you Christians even read your own bible.

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21



He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. -- Exodus 21:15


He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17

The owner has to pay their home bills also , like monthly bills ,food and clothing for the family just like all of the other employees do.
You don't seem to get that a business must make profits in order to stay in business.

And it's not my problem to worry about every under capitalized business.

/----- you would if you cared about employees as much as you claim.


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[Cellblock2429]

Always with your "us against them" mentality

But if figures you have that, because you have repeatedly blamed all the supposed failures in your life on others. You are like a petulant 2 year old that can't take any fault, it's always "those guys fault"

Actually, I blame others for what they did, but usually I overcome them. The guy who jerked me around in 2008 spends a lot of time ingratiating himself to me now to get business.

All that said, you avoided the point. We have welfare because we had wealth inequality. Full stop. There's enough wealth in this country to put everyone in a nice, middle class lifestyle. Fair wage laws, a guarunteed job for every able-bodied American, you wouldn't have any welfare.

Except for sick and old people, those slackers...

/----- We have welfare because of stupid life choices and I don't mean the sick and informed.


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[Cellblock2429]

Maybe if we removed some of the bureaucratic bloat and lowered tax burdens people would have more money.

no, guy, we did just fine when the rich paid their fair share and the government kept the one percent from screwing working people.

Basic economics. When people make good wages, everything else falls into place.

/----- what's fair about 47% who pay no taxes?


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[Cellblock2429]

More bullshit. Why then are so many restaurants closing in places where the $15 wage is being implemented?

Same reason they would have closed if it stayed at $7.00. They suck as business people. I have a restaurant right down the block from me. It's closed and reopened four times since it was built.

Maybe it will force them to work harder or smarter. I got yelled at as a kid if I got below a 90 on a test, it did wonders for my motivation.

Dude, given the kind of person you are, that's not saying much.

Entry level jobs are just that, entry level, you are supposed to move on to something worth more so said entry level jobs become available for new people entering the workforce.

Really? Where is that written? When did that become a law.

Maybe the $8.00 an hour person should be motivated to get off his ass and work harder.

Dude, we got adjunct professors on food stamps and airline pilots selling their blood plasma. The whole notion that you need to "work harder" just means the One Percent will have to be more inventive in finding ways to screw you and cheat you.

/----- airline pilots belong to a glamor industry and will work for peanuts to fly. It's their choice. As far as adjunct professors they need to find a better paying job. I left advertising in 1980 because of low pay and horrible work conditions. I went into commission sales and increased my income from $8,000 to $100,000 in about 8 years.


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[Cellblock2429]

It's a moot point as automation gets cheaper. Sorry, but it just is. The day of a guy graduating from high school, working the assembly line for 40 years, sending 5 kids to college and retiring with a big nest egg are gone.

Then maybe it's time to just have a guaranteed income for everyone, whether they work or not. YOu get just enough money to pay for food, shelter and utilities...

And if you want more then you get the skills and apply for the jobs.

I think we can do better than that, but I think that might end up being the path of least resistance.

/---- Venezuela did that and how did it work out?


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[JoeB131]

Yes we do read it and after Jesus death we are no longer under the old rules.
How about you reading it, seems you missed that part.

Where does Jesus specifically say that? Because in the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus says.

Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or tittle shall nowise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:18-19

And Luke said...

It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail. Luke 16:17

One came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him ... if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. Luke 19:16-17

So, um, no. Jesus didn't revoke the laws. God didn't change his mind, we changed ours.

How about you reading it, seems you missed that part.

No, I really didn't. You missed the parts I listed...though.

My comment had nothing to do with ,under capitalized.
You're still stuck on starting a business.

Not at all. You missed my point entirely. I have a lot of respect for people who start businesses. I've started one myself (but not ready to quit my day job, yet.)

But if you are going to insist that working people pay their own way through life, then they people who create jobs should provide a decent living wage.

Unless you want to just pay everyone an entitlement and let them work when they feel like it.

 

[JoeB131]

/---- Venezuela did that and how did it work out?

Actually, it did nothing of the sort. And, yes, big oil did a good job of waging economic war on those folks for daring to claim their own resources.

/----- airline pilots belong to a glamor industry and will work for peanuts to fly. It's their choice. As far as adjunct professors they need to find a better paying job. I left advertising in 1980 because of low pay and horrible work conditions. I went into commission sales and increased my income from $8,000 to $100,000 in about 8 years.

Maybe not everyone wants to be a salesman. I find them kind of sleezy myself, and I work with them every day.

/----- what's fair about 47% who pay no taxes?

They don't exist. Everyone is paying some kind of tax. Property tax, income tax, sales tax, etc.

 

[Cellblock2429]

/---- Venezuela did that and how did it work out?

Actually, it did nothing of the sort. And, yes, big oil did a good job of waging economic war on those folks for daring to claim their own resources.

/----- airline pilots belong to a glamor industry and will work for peanuts to fly. It's their choice. As far as adjunct professors they need to find a better paying job. I left advertising in 1980 because of low pay and horrible work conditions. I went into commission sales and increased my income from $8,000 to $100,000 in about 8 years.

Maybe not everyone wants to be a salesman. I find them kind of sleezy myself, and I work with them every day.

/----- what's fair about 47% who pay no taxes?

They don't exist. Everyone is paying some kind of tax. Property tax, income tax, sales tax, etc.

/----- 1.) You're wrong on Venezuela:
Venezuela's Disaster Demonstrates Socialism's | The Daily Caller
dailycaller.com/2017/05/17/venezuelas-disaster-demonstrates-socialisms-failure/
2.) I didn't say Sales would be the only path. It's the one I chose. Google highest paying jobs and see what else is out there. BTW I knew sleazy people in all professions and some real top notch people including Sales.
3.) When folks mention tax we generally mean INCOME TAX. Sorry I didn't spell that out for you.
45% of Americans pay no federal income tax - MarketWatch
www.marketwatch.com › Personal Finance › Taxes
Apr 18, 2016 - 77.5 million households do not pay federal individual income tax. ... Many Americans don't have to worry about giving Uncle Sam part of their ... Rich people pay nearly 87% of all federal individual income tax in America ...
May 17, 2017 - While Americans are subjected to a political circus in our nation's capital, riots, shortages, and repression are rocking the streets of Venezuela ...

 

[martybegan]

And I doubt your percentages, you have never been known to be truthful with that shit.

Wealth inequality in the United States - Wikipedia

And you ignore risk, capital and other things in the breakdown. Nevermind that most mcdonalds are franchises, owned by people who are well off, but not the 1%.

Naw, I just don't hold a pity party for greedy assholes who exploit child labor. **** 'em, I'm happy when they lose their shirts.

It's all simply jealousy on your part, they made it to the point you tried to and failed.

Naw, guy, being a greedy asshole who exploits child labor was never a big goal in my life. When I see a Fast Food Franchise that closed down, I just laugh.

Who cares? The fact is even our freaking poor are better off than middle class people 100 years ago. There will always be inequality in wealth, all getting government involved does is make the top people shift a bit. George Orwell saw that when he wrote 1984, and he was a freaking socialist.

There is a simple solution to overseas labor issues, massive tarriffs on imports.

So you laugh at a local business guy going under, and those jobs disappearing. and what does a Mcdonalds have to do with child labor?

 

[bodecea]

So teaching your kids to hate other people ad believe in things that simply have no evidence is somehow good in your mind? Man, you're really screwed up.

Nobody is talking about teaching kids to hate anyone, here. This is about recognizing the difference between boys and girls, and acknowledging the immutable scientific fact that one is not, and cannot become, the other.

What exactly is biblical "truth"?

 

[martybegan]

What point are YOU making? It's nothing but your own anger at people who have done better than you, or your anger at religious people, or your anger at people who think differently than you do. You are in a state of perpetual "get of my lawn" or more to the point "hey police officer get those people off my lawn"

What you call "cheating" is profit, and people who invest their capital in businesses deserve it, despite your whining about it like a mewling little *****.

Nope, it CHEATING people. Period. if there are 100 People working at an enterprise, they should all get 1% of the profits. Period.

Will they give back some of their pay if there is no profit or a loss? Will they put up their own property as collateral for loans to keep the business afloat?

Spare me your Marxist bullshit.

 

[Slyhunter]

So teaching your kids to hate other people ad believe in things that simply have no evidence is somehow good in your mind? Man, you're really screwed up.

Teaching kids the simple truths is illegal.
Like we are born with penises, men, or without, women. That feeling like a woman when your a man is a mental disease much like feeling like a dog, or a hippopotamus would be.

 

[Slyhunter]

Where does the bible order every Christian to kill their children?
If you are referring to the one story of Abraham, you don't understand the meaning of it.

I honestly wonder if you Christians even read your own bible.

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21



He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. -- Exodus 21:15


He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17

The owner has to pay their home bills also , like monthly bills ,food and clothing for the family just like all of the other employees do.
You don't seem to get that a business must make profits in order to stay in business.

And it's not my problem to worry about every under capitalized business.

Then there is a the New Testament with Jesus Christ which made such blatherings obsolete.

 

[Slyhunter]

Always with your "us against them" mentality

But if figures you have that, because you have repeatedly blamed all the supposed failures in your life on others. You are like a petulant 2 year old that can't take any fault, it's always "those guys fault"

Actually, I blame others for what they did, but usually I overcome them. The guy who jerked me around in 2008 spends a lot of time ingratiating himself to me now to get business.

All that said, you avoided the point. We have welfare because we had wealth inequality. Full stop. There's enough wealth in this country to put everyone in a nice, middle class lifestyle. Fair wage laws, a guarunteed job for every able-bodied American, you wouldn't have any welfare.

Except for sick and old people, those slackers...

/----- We have welfare because of stupid life choices and I don't mean the sick and informed.


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How about being bi-polar. I got no choice in the matter. Without the VA and my medical care I would be a Raving maniac who belongs in jail. AND IT'S NOT MY ******* CHOICE!!!!!!!!

 

[ScienceRocks]

Teaching this shit = making your kids dumb.

There's nothing good about it.

 

[JoeB131]

May 17, 2017 - While Americans are subjected to a political circus in our nation's capital, riots, shortages, and repression are rocking the streets of Venezuela ..

Yes, the Corporate world has done a very good job at waging economic war on the people of Venezuela for daring to defy them. What is your point?

2.) I didn't say Sales would be the only path. It's the one I chose. Google highest paying jobs and see what else is out there. BTW I knew sleazy people in all professions and some real top notch people including Sales.

Actually, no, it's a pretty sleazy profession. The point is, the LIE that all you need to do is get the right education or skills and the world will beat path to your door is horseshit. The One Percent will ALWAYS try to screw working people as long as they put up with it.

3.) When folks mention tax we generally mean INCOME TAX. Sorry I didn't spell that out for you.

So you basically made a point that was completely irrelevent, as Income Tax (which should ONLY be paid by the rich to start with, as intended) doesn't touch the retired and the poor. These folks still pay social security, medicare, sales, property, fees, and other ways the government finds to separate the 80% from the meager 13% of the economy we have.

 

[JoeB131]

How about being bi-polar. I got no choice in the matter. Without the VA and my medical care I would be a Raving maniac who belongs in jail. AND IT'S NOT MY ******* CHOICE!!!!!!!!

Yet you still vote Republican.

 

[JoeB131]

So you laugh at a local business guy going under, and those jobs disappearing. and what does a Mcdonalds have to do with child labor?

You realize that most McDonald's hire teenagers, right?

Then there is a the New Testament with Jesus Christ which made such blatherings obsolete.

Except it did no such thing. We didn't end slavery or burning witches because Jesus revoked the old laws. We revoked the old laws because we realized they were cruel and stupid. God didn't change his mind, we changed ours.

Who cares? The fact is even our freaking poor are better off than middle class people 100 years ago. There will always be inequality in wealth, all getting government involved does is make the top people shift a bit. George Orwell saw that when he wrote 1984, and he was a freaking socialist.

Actually, dumbass, we did just fine in that period after WWII, when the workforce was mostly unionized, the rich paid confiscatory taxes.