Teachers Freaking Out Over Trump

[SweetSue92]

Starting at the junior high School level It's pretty foolish not to have a security staff empowered to physically act on behalf of the teachers with impunity. These aren't kids anymore, a good percentage of them gain adult stature and strength by the eighth grade and are capable of doing enormous harm. The local high school here in my town has two city police officers on staff all the time and they are armed. Up until that happened The police were having to visit three or four times a week en masse anyway. Now it's quiet.
They only understand force.

You might be able to reason with them after that but if the force isn't present you will simply be laughed at and perhaps even beaten.

Heck, elementary kids are huge these days, and for some reason, special ed students CAN be (not always) even bigger than average. I am far, far from huge and many kids outweigh me. Posters on this site tell me eh, they're just little kids. Yeah, in kindergarten. Not at 11

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We need special schools back. And a lot, LOT more of them.

Yes, we do.

I am TIRED of seeing the fear in my gen ed students' eyes that no one addresses. It's all "well, he had a bad day" after a kid gets violent. Yes. Violent.

The tales these kids tell in 10-15 years is gonna be something. "I saw a kid punch my teacher".

"I saw a kid throw a chair at another kid"

And on, and on, and on they stories will go.

All because we love our Victims in Woke America

With due respect, that has absolutely nothing to do with the federal government. That is a definitively local problem.

When I was a high school teacher, I got my degree and went into administration. I had a great principal, and we cleaned up the school discipline wise. We were the district's worst high school for violence until my principal installed a former Army Ranger and ex-Navy yours truly as APs. Overnight we became the district's shining star! The principal retired and the district installed a lily-livered female former middle school principal in the job. My other AP lasted 6 months and quit. I stayed the course and fought her on everything while she was out of the school on bedrest from a problem pregnancy. I worked with our area superintendent to keep the school safe while she was gone. When she returned, she undid everything I had done and eventually did not renew my contract because she felt I was too rough on the kids. A few months after I left, she let a student I had kicked off campus return to class. Two months into the next school year, that same student was shot and killed by another student for sexually harassing his little sister. What I had done could have saved that poor misguided student's life and not ruined the lives of his killer and his family.

I blame the school administrators for not having any God-given sense of how to maintain order and discipline in the school. The feds have no control over that and never will. It takes talented, disciplined teachers and administrators.

I am sure you know, but most people do not know the root word of "discipline" in Latin means
"to teach". If more people did, they might understand that you cannot teach without discipline.

 

[SweetSue92]

Nobody on the left is allowed to do any kind of independent thinking without being attacked and ostracized.

I don't remember Trump campaigning on "10 Commandments in all schools", do you?

But hey, maybe Trump likes beets and I hate them.

So I shouldn't have voted for him because religion I guess.....theirs, not mine.

 

[justoffal]

I don't remember Trump campaigning on "10 Commandments in all schools", do you?

But hey, maybe Trump likes beets and I hate them.

So I shouldn't have voted for him because religion I guess.....theirs, not mine.

It doesn't matter....if you took all of Harris' words and put them in Trump's mouth and took all of Trump's words and put them in Harris' mouth they wouldn't even notice.

 

[SweetSue92]

With due respect, that has absolutely nothing to do with the federal government. That is a definitively local problem.

When I was a high school teacher, I got my degree and went into administration. I had a great principal, and we cleaned up the school discipline wise. We were the district's worst high school for violence until my principal installed a former Army Ranger and ex-Navy yours truly as APs. Overnight we became the district's shining star! The principal retired and the district installed a lily-livered female former middle school principal in the job. My other AP lasted 6 months and quit. I stayed the course and fought her on everything while she was out of the school on bedrest from a problem pregnancy. I worked with our area superintendent to keep the school safe while she was gone. When she returned, she undid everything I had done and eventually did not renew my contract because she felt I was too rough on the kids. A few months after I left, she let a student I had kicked off campus return to class. Two months into the next school year, that same student was shot and killed by another student for sexually harassing his little sister. What I had done could have saved that poor misguided student's life and not ruined the lives of his killer and his family.

I blame the school administrators for not having any God-given sense of how to maintain order and discipline in the school. The feds have no control over that and never will. It takes talented, disciplined teachers and administrators.

I am sure you know, but most people do not know the root word of "discipline" in Latin means
"to teach". If more people did, they might understand that you cannot teach without discipline.

A good admin is worth his/her weight in pure gold.

Sadly, education has some of the worst leaders I have ever seen. I mean that--the very worst.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Sweetheart, it's only the Totalitarian Left that believes you must adhere to EVERY SINGLE ONE of your candidates' beliefs or you are committing HERESY.

I'm not part of your cult. I'm proudly not part of your cult

I didn’t say you need to agree with every single one of your candidates’ beliefs.

However, these things don’t get implemented without votes. Whether you support it or not, you voted for that, so that’s on you. Own it.

 

[SweetSue92]

I didn’t say you need to agree with every single one of your candidates’ beliefs.

However, these things don’t get implemented without votes. Whether you support it or not, you voted for that, so that’s on you. Own it.

Wow, some state I don't even live in voted for this and I'm responsible for that?

I guess you're responsible for some states' bans on abortion then, or God only knows what.

You folks are funny. I just laugh now. Take all the seats.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Heck, elementary kids are huge these days, and for some reason, special ed students CAN be (not always) even bigger than average. I am far, far from huge and many kids outweigh me. Posters on this site tell me eh, they're just little kids. Yeah, in kindergarten. Not at 11

So teach kindergarten then. Or adults. Problem solved.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

By "solid" you must mean diverse or some other woke nonsense.

Home schooled kids generally do very well on standardized testing.

Especially when the parents do the "kill and drill" necessary to do well. Ever notice that most of these contest winners for spelling and geography bees are homeschooled? Isn't that a little sad that these kids can spell and word or locate any place on Earth, but can't handle a job interview in most cases because that is all they know?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Wow, some state I don't even live in voted for this and I'm responsible for that?

I guess you're responsible for some states' bans on abortion then, or God only knows what.

You folks are funny. I just laugh now. Take all the seats.

The President you directly voted for also expressed support for it and says he wants to bring prayer to public schools.

 

[justoffal]

The President you directly voted for also expressed support for it and says he wants to bring prayer to public schools.

Meh? And this is terrible why? You would prefer drag queen story hour?

 

[SweetSue92]

So teach kindergarten then. Or adults. Problem solved.

Oh good, we have a liberal here in favor of teachers getting beat down by kids.

YOU VOTED FOR THAT

 

[SweetSue92]

The President you directly voted for also expressed support for it and says he wants to bring prayer to public schools.

Cope

Seethe

Cry

whatever

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No government employees should be allowed to have unions, and it was like that for a long time, until it wasn't. It's antithetical to the peoples' best interests.

Why? Government employees have no right to strike, so where is this magical power you seem to think they wave? I worked for the government most of my life and never once had any say in my rights, benefits or pay. What is your main objection with the unions?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Oh good, we have a liberal here in favor of teachers getting beat down by kids.

YOU VOTED FOR THAT

That’s nowhere close to anything I said.

Try again without being overly emotional.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The President you directly voted for also expressed support for it and says he wants to bring prayer to public schools.

Link that. Never heard such a thing. I think I would have noticed as I oppose that to my very core.

 

[justoffal]

With due respect, that has absolutely nothing to do with the federal government. That is a definitively local problem.

When I was a high school teacher, I got my degree and went into administration. I had a great principal, and we cleaned up the school discipline wise. We were the district's worst high school for violence until my principal installed a former Army Ranger and ex-Navy yours truly as APs. Overnight we became the district's shining star! The principal retired and the district installed a lily-livered female former middle school principal in the job. My other AP lasted 6 months and quit. I stayed the course and fought her on everything while she was out of the school on bedrest from a problem pregnancy. I worked with our area superintendent to keep the school safe while she was gone. When she returned, she undid everything I had done and eventually did not renew my contract because she felt I was too rough on the kids. A few months after I left, she let a student I had kicked off campus return to class. Two months into the next school year, that same student was shot and killed by another student for sexually harassing his little sister. What I had done could have saved that poor misguided student's life and not ruined the lives of his killer and his family.

I blame the school administrators for not having any God-given sense of how to maintain order and discipline in the school. The feds have no control over that and never will. It takes talented, disciplined teachers and administrators.

I am sure you know, but most people do not know the root word of "discipline" in Latin means
"to teach". If more people did, they might understand that you cannot teach without discipline.

Wow...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Meh? And this is terrible why? You would prefer drag queen story hour?

It's unconstitutional for starters.

 

[SweetSue92]

Same here. There were no taboo subjects in our public schools other than those dictated by cultural expectations of good manners. I could tell you the religious affiliation of maybe three or four of my teachers but could not tell you what any of them believed in any aspect of religion. The students, however, could freely discussed and express religion and their faith in the schools including student led prayers before assemblies, generic prayers at all sporting events etc. We pledged allegiance to the flag every morning at the beginning of the school day and enthusiastically sang the National Anthem at assemblies and sporting events. Every student was expected to know the words to the first verse of the Anthem.

I could not tell you the political affiliation of ANY of my teachers or what any of their political views were even though we students could express whatever opinions we had about government, who got elected President or any other political office etc.

And we got an education that allowed us to compete with anybody. I would put our high school education up against any four year college graduate now.

My school says the Pledge every morning

I teach the SS Banner beginning in the third grade; it's too difficult for the little ones. But we do songs like My Country 'Tis of Thee and etc.

Not every elem school is in Brooklyn NY or Berkeley CA

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Also....it seems kids aren't "taken out of school" anymore. Read up on violent students and classroom evacuations.

Why do you think I'm up like this at this time of night, unable to sleep?

We are not okay. Our workplace is an unsafe, toxic mess. I told a coworker today it feels "abusive", and it does.

Your administrators and district are to blame. Not the Education Department.