Teacher Forced to Remove Charlie Kirk Poster

[Dogmaphobe]

Show your evidence for 'lies he projected.' I won't hold my breath because you won't be able to come up with any.

Moonglow, like most leftists here, operates on the level of a conditioned response and nothing beyond that.

 

[Foxfyre]

It amazes me that Charlie Kirk is at all controversial to the left. But here we are.

He is controversial because he wasn't at all 'woke' and rejected most of the narratives of the 'woke' left. And because his positive message of commons sense and traditional values that made this country great had made him a compelling and influential voice in America and the world, That made him anathema to those on the left, someone who must be despised, denigrated, silenced.

He was very young and still learning himself and his points of view of course would change somewhat on this or that concept over time as happens to all of us. I didn't agree with every single point of view he held at times, but deeply appreciated his commitment to putting the truth out there as he understood it and the difference he was making, all positive.

The Bible is full of stories of imperfect people being called and used by God for greatness or to do good. I believe that still happens. I wasn't one called by God to deliver a sensible, wholesome, practical message to the world. Had I tried, I no doubt would not have been all that effective. But I believe Charlie Kirk was called and was effective.

And so those on the the left hated him. And a person full of hate killed him. And those on the left cheered his death. And that is sick which is exactly why we need Charlie Kirks in the world.

 

[Foxfyre]

I see it as a case of principle vs practice. In principle, teachers should not bring their politics or religion into the classroom. In practice, however, many do, and if this school does allow all the de rigueur BLM and gay pride stuff, they are acting in a prejudicial fashion here.

I would like to see cases such as this used as a springboard for addressing all the leftist indoctrination, myself. Schools do not need competing ideologies. They need to remove the ideologies and concentrate on teaching.

The Charlie Kirk quote, however, was not political nor partisan nor ideology. It was a concept that encourages students to think. Which is the purpose of inspirational quotes. Real education is far more than just facts, dates, numbers, names that a student writes down on the test.

 

[Foxfyre]

Inspirational for who?

Inspirational for anybody who isn't obsessed with a message of hatred and contempt for basic values of honesty, courage, belief that the world and humankind can be good and make things better than they are.

 

[Foxfyre]

I don’t know that much about him.

But there is more than enough video to support you point.

Please post that video. I have watched a LOT of Charlie Kirk videos and I have never EVER seen that.

 

[Foxfyre]

Moonglow, like most leftists here, operates on the level of a conditioned response and nothing beyond that.

That is the M.O. of pretty much all leftists it seems. Stick with and parrot the assigned talking points. Intellectual honesty and critical thinking are not allowed.

And nowhere is that more apparent than the narratives they use to describe Charlie Kirk.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

The Charlie Kirk quote, however, was not political nor partisan nor ideology. It was a concept that encourages students to think. Which is the purpose of inspirational quotes. Real education is far more than just facts, dates, numbers, names that a student writes down on the test.

Charlie Kirk is a political lightning rod, though, and the poster included his picture along with the quote. An unattributed quote would have been just fine with me, but I feel the same way here as I would a Poster featuringg Karl Marx along with his words "Surround yourself with people who make you happy. People who make you laugh, who help you when you’re in need. People who genuinely care. They are the ones worth keeping in your life. Everyone else is just passing through.”

Again, if this can be used towards addressing all the woke crap that IS allowed, I see the benefits as outweighing the loss.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

That is the M.O. of pretty much all leftists it seems. Stick with and parrot the assigned talking points. Intellectual honesty and critical thinking are not allowed.

And nowhere is that more apparent than the narratives they use to describe Charlie Kirk.

They are our modern Pharisees standing on the street corners trumpeting their virtue while being anything but virtuous.

 

[Orangecat]

It's inspirational, not scripture. I guess we can't say Practice makes Perfect anymore, eh?

If Karl Marx said it, the useful idiots would want it plastered in every classroom.

 

[Concerned American]

If Karl Marx said it, the useful idiots would want it plastered in every classroom.

Viva Che' posters are OK. SMFH

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Inspirational for who?

For you. What is wrong with this??
Since you don't believe this, why the hell should you post here, hypocrite?

 

[The Irish Ram]

Kirk was no Lincoln.

Neither was George Floyd, but we immortalized that drug addict, didn't we. But a clean cut family man being blown away doesn't make the cut? FU.

 

[Foxfyre]

Charlie Kirk is a political lightning rod, though, and the poster included his picture along with the quote. An unattributed quote would have been just fine with me, but I feel the same way here as I would a Poster featuringg Karl Marx along with his words "Surround yourself with people who make you happy. People who make you laugh, who help you when you’re in need. People who genuinely care. They are the ones worth keeping in your life. Everyone else is just passing through.”

Again, if this can be used towards addressing all the woke crap that IS allowed, I see the benefits as outweighing the loss.

Actually I would not have a problem with that Karl Marx quote being posted along with all the others. In teaching Marx I always pointed out the positive along with the negatives. Students would understand how compelling some of his message could be and why it was attractive to those who embraced it.

But they also would know the other side of Marx's message, the necessity of totalitarian rule to tear down a people's culture so that they could eventually work together in harmony for a common benefit. However, no government that achieved that totalitarian stage has ever moved beyond it to the communism that Marx envisioned as the salvation of humankind suggesting that Marx was short sighted when it came to basic human nature.

Was Marx an evil person? Or one who truly intended good? That makes for fascinating debate.

But his non political, non partisan, non ideological quote should not be necessarily banned from a classroom, especially one in which history is taught.

 

[Mack The Finger]

I just don't understand the culture of victimhood.

I don't feel like a victim...never !

My obsession with Dylan's music was component of my mental health problems. This fellow who looks thru everything thru prism of race victimhood is sick. Same with people that have TDS.

 

[braalian]

For four straight years people on the radical left were trying to inspire me to be gay but it never worked.

You people must lead very different lives than me.

Politicians were trying to make you gay? How?

I’ve never experienced anything remotely like that, and can’t even imagine how they’d go about that

 

[Zincwarrior]

So much for freedom of speech? Right democrats?

Summary? Not watching your bullshit video.

 

[hjmick]

Neither was George Floyd, but we immortalized that drug addict, didn't we. But a clean cut family man being blown away doesn't make the cut? FU.

You may have "immortalized that drug addict," but I sure as **** didn't. I didn't even remember the name until you mentioned it you ******* shit stain.

 

[ChristisKing]

You people must lead very different lives than me.

Politicians were trying to make you gay? How?

I’ve never experienced anything remotely like that, and can’t even imagine how they’d go about that

So now you have amnesia huh?

 

[Mr Natural]

You people must lead very different lives than me.

Politicians were trying to make you gay? How?

I’ve never experienced anything remotely like that, and can’t even imagine how they’d go about that

They have very vivid imaginations.

 

[Concerned American]

The Charlie Kirk quote, however, was not political nor partisan nor ideology. It was a concept that encourages students to think. Which is the purpose of inspirational quotes. Real education is far more than just facts, dates, numbers, names that a student writes down on the test.

The proverbial "Shoulders of Giants."