Teacher Forced to Remove Charlie Kirk Poster

[Concerned American]

Aristotle would be historical in nature, philosophy. Probably educational. Don't know about Jung.

My aim is not to he exclusive, its to show that not doing so is a slippery slope. If they allow kirk posters, then they have to allow gay pride flags, then they have to allow this and that and this and that.

Just nip it all in the bud and don't allow any of it.

So is the problem with the message or with the fact that a current figure and name are attached to it?

 

[The Irish Ram]

His message was filled with hate.

That isn't true. If you look at his followers, they aren't fueled by hate. They were happy to have someone listening to them. And he did. And they loved him for it. Then the maniacal left took him away.

 

[Rawley]

You couldn't strike a chord in me if you used a hammer. But it seems my lack of interest in deifying Charlie Kirk in the way you want to is upsetting to you...

Just curious, how is this poster deifying the man?

 

[Rawley]

Charlie Kirk wasn't Rosa Parks or Martin Luther King, or Reagan. He was a hard core maga cult podcaster.

That's it? The sum total of the man's accomplishments? "a hard core maga cult podcaster?" Really?

 

[hjmick]

Not in the least. Your lack is your lack...

No hard feelings.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

You people must lead very different lives than me.

Politicians were trying to make you gay? How?

I’ve never experienced anything remotely like that, and can’t even imagine how they’d go about that

By NORMALIZING it
What a culture tolerated today it will CELEBRATE tomorrow.
We're already here.
Now they're focusing on normalizing the trans mental illness

 

[braalian]

By NORMALIZING it
What a culture tolerated today it will CELEBRATE tomorrow.
We're already here.
Now they're focusing on normalizing the trans mental illness

None of which “makes” anybody gay.

That’s ridiculous

 

[konradv]

So much for freedom of speech? Right democrats?

Exclusionary! Shit can it.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

None of which “makes” anybody gay.

That’s ridiculous

Homosexuality is growing, just as
Prophesied. So is trans. Because you don't accept it doesn't make her not so

 

[Carl in Michigan]

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It is 'education' because it encourages a student to think outside the box. To think bout how he/she is not insignificant or unimportant. That he/she can make a difference.

Especially in a history class where a creative educator knows that history is made up of far more than just dates, names of events, occurrences, but factors in all of human creativity, ingenuity, imagination, beliefs, points of view, understanding that make up human culture and how all that results in the history that we have.

On your point about history, I agree, but if this guy taught another subject, it would be inappropriate. I believe I said as much in another post. You will note it never says what he teaches.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I see it as a case of principle vs practice. In principle, teachers should not bring their politics or religion into the classroom. In practice, however, many do, and if this school does allow all the de rigueur BLM and gay pride stuff, they are acting in a prejudicial fashion here.

I would like to see cases such as this used as a springboard for addressing all the leftist indoctrination, myself. Schools do not need competing ideologies. They need to remove the ideologies and concentrate on teaching.

But we do not know that, do we?

I agree on removing ideologies.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I suppose somebody who can't see the difference between an inspirational quote and a gay pride flag would think that.

So just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

 

[Foxfyre]

On your point about history, I agree, but if this guy taught another subject, it would be inappropriate. I believe I said as much in another post. You will note it never says what he teaches.

Why inappropriate in another class? All classes are supposed to be educating the children. Several of my English teachers used interesting quotes and phrases from classic works and elsewhere to help us think critically. In the 9th grade I was identifying and utilizing the universal truths from Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar" and I was making A's from one of the schools toughest teachers by reputation.

Even in math class, a good teacher can help students understand concepts that go beyond the core numbers. For instance:

A simple statement loaded with all sorts if nuances and applications that could be applicable to critical thinking from math class, poli-sci, biology, health class, many others.

 

[Foxfyre]

So just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

And just because some person does see it that way because of personal prejudices or whatever does not make it so.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why inappropriate in another class? All classes are supposed to be educating the children. Several of my English teachers used interesting quotes and phrases from classic works and elsewhere to help us think critically. In the 9th grade I was identifying and utilizing the universal truths from Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar" and I was making A's from one of the schools toughest teachers by reputation.

Even in math class, a good teacher can help students understand concepts that go beyond the core numbers. For instance:

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A simple statement loaded with all sorts if nuances and applications that could be applicable to critical thinking from math class, poli-sci, biology, health class, many others.

So how long were you a teacher?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And just because some person does see it that way because of personal prejudices or whatever does not make it so.

Well, it is a fact, despite your denial.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

So just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Of course we know it. Heck, on my younger son's high school, the biggest fuss they gave was for their "social justice award" and that was 8 years ago. His school was filled with with Woke.

 

[braalian]

Having a political poster of any kind in a school setting is automatically in bad taste and a bad idea

And, yes, I realize there’s nothing inherently political in the specific quote on the poster, but we all know Kirk was a deeply political person and a far-right icon.

Putting up a poster of a far-left figure, regardless of the quote, would be equally inappropriate.

 

[BULLDOG]

That's it? The sum total of the man's accomplishments? "a hard core maga cult podcaster?" Really?

That pretty much covers it. Can you point out anything he said or did that didn't support hard core maga principles?