Tea Party takes power; Murder rate soars up 21%

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[KevinWestern]

SC murders up by more than 20 percent in 2011, SLED says | GoUpstate.com

The realities of Tea Party style governing are sometimes not immediately seen. They have great slogans to slap on bumper stickers. But when they actually apply them to governing, well, bad shit happens.

In 2010, the Tea Party swept into power throughout my state, South Carolina, like it did in many other parts of the country. Local mayors in the metro areas of Charleston, Greenville, Columbia, Myrtle Beach embraced Tea Party shenanigans, and applied them to their city budgets, in particular police. The Tea Party Queen, Nikki Haley, took over as governor. She immediately made big cuts to the state police (SLED and Highway Patrol), and slashed aid to local city budgets. Note: SC already had among the lowest taxes in America.

The result? Well, in just 1 year, the murder rate jumped 21%. Less cops. Less detectives. Less patrols. What does it mean? Easy. More crime.

Also according to the study:

The states violent crime rate has exceeded national average for decades. Same with it's murder rate, robbery rate, property crime rate.

Statistically, in 2006 the City of North Charleston was the 7th most dangerous city in America.


Yet, our Tea Party leaders want to further cut police budgets, and add even more guns to the streets.

And they wonder why people are leaving the GOP.

First term politicians are to blame? Hmm.

I would assume one would think these numbers are more closely related to things like... the largest recession in 80 years hitting in 2008.

Not buying this argument at all.

 

[tjvh]

SC murders up by more than 20 percent in 2011, SLED says | GoUpstate.com

The realities of Tea Party style governing are sometimes not immediately seen. They have great slogans to slap on bumper stickers. But when they actually apply them to governing, well, bad shit happens.

In 2010, the Tea Party swept into power throughout my state, South Carolina, like it did in many other parts of the country. Local mayors in the metro areas of Charleston, Greenville, Columbia, Myrtle Beach embraced Tea Party shenanigans, and applied them to their city budgets, in particular police. The Tea Party Queen, Nikki Haley, took over as governor. She immediately made big cuts to the state police (SLED and Highway Patrol), and slashed aid to local city budgets. Note: SC already had among the lowest taxes in America.

The result? Well, in just 1 year, the murder rate jumped 21%. Less cops. Less detectives. Less patrols. What does it mean? Easy. More crime.

Also according to the study:

The states violent crime rate has exceeded national average for decades. Same with it's murder rate, robbery rate, property crime rate.

Statistically, in 2006 the City of North Charleston was the 7th most dangerous city in America.


Yet, our Tea Party leaders want to further cut police budgets, and add even more guns to the streets.

And they wonder why people are leaving the GOP.

Mix trailer parks, rednecks and low education levels and throw in guns and the bible that's a dangerous mix

Wow... You really are a self absorbed elitist asshole.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

SC murders up by more than 20 percent in 2011, SLED says | GoUpstate.com

The realities of Tea Party style governing are sometimes not immediately seen. They have great slogans to slap on bumper stickers. But when they actually apply them to governing, well, bad shit happens.

In 2010, the Tea Party swept into power throughout my state, South Carolina, like it did in many other parts of the country. Local mayors in the metro areas of Charleston, Greenville, Columbia, Myrtle Beach embraced Tea Party shenanigans, and applied them to their city budgets, in particular police. The Tea Party Queen, Nikki Haley, took over as governor. She immediately made big cuts to the state police (SLED and Highway Patrol), and slashed aid to local city budgets. Note: SC already had among the lowest taxes in America.

The result? Well, in just 1 year, the murder rate jumped 21%. Less cops. Less detectives. Less patrols. What does it mean? Easy. More crime.

Also according to the study:

The states violent crime rate has exceeded national average for decades. Same with it's murder rate, robbery rate, property crime rate.

Statistically, in 2006 the City of North Charleston was the 7th most dangerous city in America.


Yet, our Tea Party leaders want to further cut police budgets, and add even more guns to the streets.

And they wonder why people are leaving the GOP.

This is why stupid people should not use statistics, they just don't understand math. No one looks at one year samples to build treads.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Odd.

Did you read the article?

"The state’s violent crime rate, which includes murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault, decreased 2.2 percent from 2010, according to SLED’s Uniform Crime Report."

Did you?

The murder rate spiked in 2010 - 2011, can I blame that on Republicans too?

That's in keeping with the OP.

The murder rate dropped 24% from 10 years ago.

 

[squeeze berry]

SC murders up by more than 20 percent in 2011, SLED says | GoUpstate.com

The realities of Tea Party style governing are sometimes not immediately seen. They have great slogans to slap on bumper stickers. But when they actually apply them to governing, well, bad shit happens.

In 2010, the Tea Party swept into power throughout my state, South Carolina, like it did in many other parts of the country. Local mayors in the metro areas of Charleston, Greenville, Columbia, Myrtle Beach embraced Tea Party shenanigans, and applied them to their city budgets, in particular police. The Tea Party Queen, Nikki Haley, took over as governor. She immediately made big cuts to the state police (SLED and Highway Patrol), and slashed aid to local city budgets. Note: SC already had among the lowest taxes in America.

The result? Well, in just 1 year, the murder rate jumped 21%. Less cops. Less detectives. Less patrols. What does it mean? Easy. More crime.

Also according to the study:

The states violent crime rate has exceeded national average for decades. Same with it's murder rate, robbery rate, property crime rate.

Statistically, in 2006 the City of North Charleston was the 7th most dangerous city in America.


Yet, our Tea Party leaders want to further cut police budgets, and add even more guns to the streets.

And they wonder why people are leaving the GOP.

Mix trailer parks, rednecks and low education levels and throw in guns and the bible that's a dangerous mix

I'll bet the majority of the perps are not republicans

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Odd.

Did you read the article?

"The state’s violent crime rate, which includes murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault, decreased 2.2 percent from 2010, according to SLED’s Uniform Crime Report."

bucs is a conspiracy theorist didn't you know that?

 

[Samson]

SC murders up by more than 20 percent in 2011, SLED says | GoUpstate.com

The realities of Tea Party style governing are sometimes not immediately seen. They have great slogans to slap on bumper stickers. But when they actually apply them to governing, well, bad shit happens.

In 2010, the Tea Party swept into power throughout my state, South Carolina, like it did in many other parts of the country. Local mayors in the metro areas of Charleston, Greenville, Columbia, Myrtle Beach embraced Tea Party shenanigans, and applied them to their city budgets, in particular police. The Tea Party Queen, Nikki Haley, took over as governor. She immediately made big cuts to the state police (SLED and Highway Patrol), and slashed aid to local city budgets. Note: SC already had among the lowest taxes in America.

The result? Well, in just 1 year, the murder rate jumped 21%. Less cops. Less detectives. Less patrols. What does it mean? Easy. More crime.

Also according to the study:

The states violent crime rate has exceeded national average for decades. Same with it's murder rate, robbery rate, property crime rate.

Statistically, in 2006 the City of North Charleston was the 7th most dangerous city in America.


Yet, our Tea Party leaders want to further cut police budgets, and add even more guns to the streets.

And they wonder why people are leaving the GOP.

This is why stupid people should not use statistics, they just don't understand math. No one looks at one year samples to build treads.

Indeed, anytime anyone says something has "increase X%" or "decreased Y%" without giving ANY data to support the change, then their motive is suspicious.

Frankly, until Chicago becomes a safer place, I don't see any reason any lib can throw stones.

 

[FJO]

There is no connection between the Tea Party and rising crime rate in the quoted article.

Obviously bucs90 never bothered to read it.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

SC murders up by more than 20 percent in 2011, SLED says | GoUpstate.com

The realities of Tea Party style governing are sometimes not immediately seen. They have great slogans to slap on bumper stickers. But when they actually apply them to governing, well, bad shit happens.

In 2010, the Tea Party swept into power throughout my state, South Carolina, like it did in many other parts of the country. Local mayors in the metro areas of Charleston, Greenville, Columbia, Myrtle Beach embraced Tea Party shenanigans, and applied them to their city budgets, in particular police. The Tea Party Queen, Nikki Haley, took over as governor. She immediately made big cuts to the state police (SLED and Highway Patrol), and slashed aid to local city budgets. Note: SC already had among the lowest taxes in America.

The result? Well, in just 1 year, the murder rate jumped 21%. Less cops. Less detectives. Less patrols. What does it mean? Easy. More crime.

Also according to the study:

The states violent crime rate has exceeded national average for decades. Same with it's murder rate, robbery rate, property crime rate.

Statistically, in 2006 the City of North Charleston was the 7th most dangerous city in America.


Yet, our Tea Party leaders want to further cut police budgets, and add even more guns to the streets.

And they wonder why people are leaving the GOP.

Mix trailer parks, rednecks and low education levels and throw in guns and the bible that's a dangerous mix

I bet you're a big Muslim brotherhood support, they will cling to their quran and passenger planes.

 

[Wyatt earp]

SC murders up by more than 20 percent in 2011, SLED says | GoUpstate.com

The realities of Tea Party style governing are sometimes not immediately seen. They have great slogans to slap on bumper stickers. But when they actually apply them to governing, well, bad shit happens.

In 2010, the Tea Party swept into power throughout my state, South Carolina, like it did in many other parts of the country. Local mayors in the metro areas of Charleston, Greenville, Columbia, Myrtle Beach embraced Tea Party shenanigans, and applied them to their city budgets, in particular police. The Tea Party Queen, Nikki Haley, took over as governor. She immediately made big cuts to the state police (SLED and Highway Patrol), and slashed aid to local city budgets. Note: SC already had among the lowest taxes in America.

The result? Well, in just 1 year, the murder rate jumped 21%. Less cops. Less detectives. Less patrols. What does it mean? Easy. More crime.

Also according to the study:

The states violent crime rate has exceeded national average for decades. Same with it's murder rate, robbery rate, property crime rate.

Statistically, in 2006 the City of North Charleston was the 7th most dangerous city in America.


Yet, our Tea Party leaders want to further cut police budgets, and add even more guns to the streets.

And they wonder why people are leaving the GOP.

Lmao whats this shit? I live in south carolina. topic fail.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

SC murders up by more than 20 percent in 2011, SLED says | GoUpstate.com

The realities of Tea Party style governing are sometimes not immediately seen. They have great slogans to slap on bumper stickers. But when they actually apply them to governing, well, bad shit happens.

In 2010, the Tea Party swept into power throughout my state, South Carolina, like it did in many other parts of the country. Local mayors in the metro areas of Charleston, Greenville, Columbia, Myrtle Beach embraced Tea Party shenanigans, and applied them to their city budgets, in particular police. The Tea Party Queen, Nikki Haley, took over as governor. She immediately made big cuts to the state police (SLED and Highway Patrol), and slashed aid to local city budgets. Note: SC already had among the lowest taxes in America.

The result? Well, in just 1 year, the murder rate jumped 21%. Less cops. Less detectives. Less patrols. What does it mean? Easy. More crime.

Also according to the study:

The states violent crime rate has exceeded national average for decades. Same with it's murder rate, robbery rate, property crime rate.

Statistically, in 2006 the City of North Charleston was the 7th most dangerous city in America.


Yet, our Tea Party leaders want to further cut police budgets, and add even more guns to the streets.

And they wonder why people are leaving the GOP.

Mix trailer parks, rednecks and low education levels and throw in guns and the bible that's a dangerous mix

What an insufferable little snob you are. I expect you got beaten up a lot in school. Do you still have an uncontrollable urge to give your lunch money away to survive?

 

[yidnar]

SC murders up by more than 20 percent in 2011, SLED says | GoUpstate.com

The realities of Tea Party style governing are sometimes not immediately seen. They have great slogans to slap on bumper stickers. But when they actually apply them to governing, well, bad shit happens.

In 2010, the Tea Party swept into power throughout my state, South Carolina, like it did in many other parts of the country. Local mayors in the metro areas of Charleston, Greenville, Columbia, Myrtle Beach embraced Tea Party shenanigans, and applied them to their city budgets, in particular police. The Tea Party Queen, Nikki Haley, took over as governor. She immediately made big cuts to the state police (SLED and Highway Patrol), and slashed aid to local city budgets. Note: SC already had among the lowest taxes in America.

The result? Well, in just 1 year, the murder rate jumped 21%. Less cops. Less detectives. Less patrols. What does it mean? Easy. More crime.

Also according to the study:

The states violent crime rate has exceeded national average for decades. Same with it's murder rate, robbery rate, property crime rate.

Statistically, in 2006 the City of North Charleston was the 7th most dangerous city in America.


Yet, our Tea Party leaders want to further cut police budgets, and add even more guns to the streets.

And they wonder why people are leaving the GOP.

i in SC the crime rate has not risen .

 

[FA_Q2]

I see bucs90 has fled from his own thread after being thoroughly thrashed in a lie...

 

[bucs90]

SC murders up by more than 20 percent in 2011, SLED says | GoUpstate.com

The realities of Tea Party style governing are sometimes not immediately seen. They have great slogans to slap on bumper stickers. But when they actually apply them to governing, well, bad shit happens.

In 2010, the Tea Party swept into power throughout my state, South Carolina, like it did in many other parts of the country. Local mayors in the metro areas of Charleston, Greenville, Columbia, Myrtle Beach embraced Tea Party shenanigans, and applied them to their city budgets, in particular police. The Tea Party Queen, Nikki Haley, took over as governor. She immediately made big cuts to the state police (SLED and Highway Patrol), and slashed aid to local city budgets. Note: SC already had among the lowest taxes in America.

The result? Well, in just 1 year, the murder rate jumped 21%. Less cops. Less detectives. Less patrols. What does it mean? Easy. More crime.

Also according to the study:

The states violent crime rate has exceeded national average for decades. Same with it's murder rate, robbery rate, property crime rate.

Statistically, in 2006 the City of North Charleston was the 7th most dangerous city in America.


Yet, our Tea Party leaders want to further cut police budgets, and add even more guns to the streets.

And they wonder why people are leaving the GOP.

I have never heard of a tea party member or republican for that matter that wants to cut police. Claiming such is a lie but it will get the uninformed to think it is true especially if individuals such as yourself keep saying it.

Sure you have. Every time they bitch about slashing a local, county or state budget, the first to get hit are the police. Why?

Because parks and rec are fun, and people will complain.
Because water, sewer, beautification are stuff people see and complain about.

But cops and firemen are things most people will never use or see in a year. They aren't sympathetic to it. They wont complain about it.

So when you TP'ers bitch about budgets, it isn't the wasteful, unnecessary shit that gets cut. Its police 1st, fire 2nd. And they hope it never comes to cutting their pretty, fun, pet projects.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

SC murders up by more than 20 percent in 2011, SLED says | GoUpstate.com

The realities of Tea Party style governing are sometimes not immediately seen. They have great slogans to slap on bumper stickers. But when they actually apply them to governing, well, bad shit happens.

In 2010, the Tea Party swept into power throughout my state, South Carolina, like it did in many other parts of the country. Local mayors in the metro areas of Charleston, Greenville, Columbia, Myrtle Beach embraced Tea Party shenanigans, and applied them to their city budgets, in particular police. The Tea Party Queen, Nikki Haley, took over as governor. She immediately made big cuts to the state police (SLED and Highway Patrol), and slashed aid to local city budgets. Note: SC already had among the lowest taxes in America.

The result? Well, in just 1 year, the murder rate jumped 21%. Less cops. Less detectives. Less patrols. What does it mean? Easy. More crime.

Also according to the study:

The states violent crime rate has exceeded national average for decades. Same with it's murder rate, robbery rate, property crime rate.

Statistically, in 2006 the City of North Charleston was the 7th most dangerous city in America.


Yet, our Tea Party leaders want to further cut police budgets, and add even more guns to the streets.

And they wonder why people are leaving the GOP.

Lmao whats this shit? I live in south carolina. topic fail.

Bucs90 was a "Conservative", until the Tea Party cut federal funding to the local police, then he did a complete Jake Starkey and became an Obamaroid

He's funny -- without meaning to be, of course.

 

[bucs90]

I see bucs90 has fled from his own thread after being thoroughly thrashed in a lie...

What lie? The murder rate did go up 21%. South Carolina has long had a violent crime problem. Over the past 20 years, police in this state have fought hard to get it under control. And slowly but surely they did. In the latter part of the 2000's, it really started getting under control.

But then, in 2010, the Tea Party took power in city halls, county councils and the state government. They instantly slashed budgets, starting with what is usually the biggest budget item locally- police. And within a year, a relatively low murder rate by state historic standards spiked back up to it's ugly, violent past numbers.

Funny how one year of radicalism in power can reverse years of hard work.

As for why the murder rate went up 21%, but other violent crime- robbery, etc- went down? Easy. When a robbery occurs, you get charged with robbery. When a robbery occurs, and the perp murders the victim, you get charged with murder. Thats how a few robberies went down, and murders went up.

Combine that with "UCR policing", where PD's see a spike in crime, and they label reports with only the most serious crime that occurred. So while a burglary/robbery may have occurred, if they kill someone, they title the report UCR just "murder".

Its fairly normal for murder rates to spike and other violent crimes see a slight drop. Because the murder charge wipes out some of the UCR reports for what would've just been a robbery or assault.

Gotta read up on this stuff to understand it.

 

[bucs90]

SC murders up by more than 20 percent in 2011, SLED says | GoUpstate.com

The realities of Tea Party style governing are sometimes not immediately seen. They have great slogans to slap on bumper stickers. But when they actually apply them to governing, well, bad shit happens.

In 2010, the Tea Party swept into power throughout my state, South Carolina, like it did in many other parts of the country. Local mayors in the metro areas of Charleston, Greenville, Columbia, Myrtle Beach embraced Tea Party shenanigans, and applied them to their city budgets, in particular police. The Tea Party Queen, Nikki Haley, took over as governor. She immediately made big cuts to the state police (SLED and Highway Patrol), and slashed aid to local city budgets. Note: SC already had among the lowest taxes in America.

The result? Well, in just 1 year, the murder rate jumped 21%. Less cops. Less detectives. Less patrols. What does it mean? Easy. More crime.

Also according to the study:

The states violent crime rate has exceeded national average for decades. Same with it's murder rate, robbery rate, property crime rate.

Statistically, in 2006 the City of North Charleston was the 7th most dangerous city in America.


Yet, our Tea Party leaders want to further cut police budgets, and add even more guns to the streets.

And they wonder why people are leaving the GOP.

Lmao whats this shit? I live in south carolina. topic fail.

Bucs90 was a "Conservative", until the Tea Party cut federal funding to the local police, then he did a complete Jake Starkey and became an Obamaroid

He's funny -- without meaning to be, of course.

Federal funding to PD's hasn't been cut yet. Homeland Security and the FBI still give grants to local PD's all the time. Under Obama, a Dem Senate and a GOP House, that has not changed (probably due to Dems holding 2 of those 3).

The Tea Party has slashed PD funding drastically at the local and state levels.

And yes, when the TP whacks began turning on cops and turning against the government in general, in a whacky tin foil hat way, yes- I left the insanity of the GOP.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I see bucs90 has fled from his own thread after being thoroughly thrashed in a lie...

What lie? The murder rate did go up 21%. South Carolina has long had a violent crime problem. Over the past 20 years, police in this state have fought hard to get it under control. And slowly but surely they did. In the latter part of the 2000's, it really started getting under control.

But then, in 2010, the Tea Party took power in city halls, county councils and the state government. They instantly slashed budgets, starting with what is usually the biggest budget item locally- police. And within a year, a relatively low murder rate by state historic standards spiked back up to it's ugly, violent past numbers.

Funny how one year of radicalism in power can reverse years of hard work.

As for why the murder rate went up 21%, but other violent crime- robbery, etc- went down? Easy. When a robbery occurs, you get charged with robbery. When a robbery occurs, and the perp murders the victim, you get charged with murder. Thats how a few robberies went down, and murders went up.

Combine that with "UCR policing", where PD's see a spike in crime, and they label reports with only the most serious crime that occurred. So while a burglary/robbery may have occurred, if they kill someone, they title the report UCR just "murder".

Its fairly normal for murder rates to spike and other violent crimes see a slight drop. Because the murder charge wipes out some of the UCR reports for what would've just been a robbery or assault.

Gotta read up on this stuff to understand it.

what? I live in Ocnee county, you get thrown in jail for a day just for j-walking. they are dudes serving 6 months in jail for non payment of child support. their is No Work release.

 

[Katzndogz]

There has been a spike in crime in many major cities since the curse of obama. He said Chicago was a model for the nation.