TAPS- Why America is Not Coming Back

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We Are Not Coming Back
Please take a moment to digest this provocative article by a Jewish Rabbifrom Teaneck , N.J.
It is far and away the most succinct and thoughtful explanation of how our nation is changing. The article appeared in The Israel National News, and is directed to Jewish readership. 70% of American Jews vote as Democrats. The Rabbi has some interesting comments in that regard.

Rabbi Steven Pruzansky is the spiritual leader of Congregation Bnai Yeshurun in Teaneck, New Jersey
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"The most charitable way of explaining the election results of 2012 is that Americans voted for the status quo - for the incumbent President and for a divided Congress. They must enjoy gridlock, partisanship, incompetence, economic stagnation and avoidance of responsibility. And fewer people voted.

But as we awake from the nightmare, it is important to eschew the facile explanations for the Romney defeat that will prevail among the chattering classes. Romney did not lose because of the effects of Hurricane Sandy that devastated this area, nor did he lose because he ran a poor campaign, nor did he lose because the Republicans could have chosen better candidates, nor did he lose because Obama benefited from a slight uptick in the economy due to the business cycle.

Romney lost because he didn't get enough votes to win.

That might seem obvious, but not for the obvious reasons. Romney lost because the conservative virtues - the traditional American virtues – of
Liberty, hard work, free enterprise, private initiative and aspirations to moral greatness - no longer inspire or animate a majority of the electorate.

The simplest reason why Romney lost was because it is impossible to compete against free stuff.

Every businessman knows this; that is why the "loss leader" or the giveaway is such a powerful marketing tool. Obama's America is one in which free stuff is given away: the adults among the 47,000,000 on food stamps clearly recognized for whom they should vote, and so they did, by the tens of millions; those who - courtesy of Obama - receive two full years of unemployment benefits (which, of course, both disincentivizes looking for work and also motivates people to work off the books while collecting their windfall) surely know for whom to vote. The lure of free stuff is irresistible.

The defining moment of the whole campaign was the revelation of the secretly-recorded video in which Romney acknowledged the difficulty of winning an election in which "47% of the people" start off against him because they pay no taxes and just receive money - "free stuff" - from the government.

Almost half of the population has no skin in the game - they don't care about high taxes, promoting business, or creating jobs, nor do they care that the money for their free stuff is being borrowed from their children
And from the Chinese.

They just want the free stuff that comes their way at someone else's expense. In the end, that 47% leaves very little margin for error for any Republican, and does not bode well for the future.

It is impossible to imagine a conservative candidate winning against such overwhelming odds. People do vote their pocketbooks. In essence, the people vote for a Congress who will not raise their taxes, and for a President who will give them free stuff, never mind who has to pay for it.

That engenders the second reason why Romney lost: the inescapable conclusion that the electorate is ignorant and uninformed. Indeed, it does not pay to be an informed voter, because most other voters - the clear majority – are unintelligent and easily swayed by emotion and raw populism. That is the indelicate way of saying that too many people vote with their hearts and not their heads. That is why Obama did not have to produce a second term agenda, or even defend his first-term record. He needed only to portray Mitt Romney as a rapacious capitalist who throws elderly women over a cliff, when he is not just snatching away their cancer medication, while starving the poor and cutting taxes for the rich.

During his 1956 presidential campaign, a woman called out to Adlai Stevenson: "Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!" Stevenson called back: "That's not enough, madam, we need a majority!"
Truer words were never spoken.

Obama could get away with saying that "Romney wants the rich to play by a different set of rules" - without ever defining what those different rules were; with saying that the "rich should pay their fair share" - without ever defining what a "fair share" is; with saying that Romney wants the poor, elderly and sick to "fend for themselves" - without even acknowledging that all these government programs are going bankrupt, their current insolvency only papered over by deficit spending.

Similarly, Obama (or his surrogates) could hint to blacks that a Romney victory would lead them back into chains and proclaim to women that their abortions and birth control would be taken away.. He could appeal to Hispanics that Romney would have them all arrested and shipped to Mexico and unabashedly state that he will not enforce the current immigration laws. He could espouse the furtherance of the incestuous relationship between governments and unions - in which politicians ply the unions with public money, in exchange for which the unions provide the politicians with votes, in exchange for which the politicians provide more money and the unions provide more votes, etc., even though the money is gone.

Obama also knows that the electorate has changed - that whites will soon be a minority in America (they're already a minority in California) and that the new immigrants to the US are primarily from the Third World and do not share the traditional American values that attracted immigrants in the 19th and 20th centuries. It is a different world, and a different America . Obama is part of that different America , knows it, and knows how to tap into it. That is why he won.

Obama also proved again that negative advertising works, invective sells, and harsh personal attacks succeed. That Romney never engaged in such diatribes points to his essential goodness as a person; his "negative ads" were simple facts, never personal abuse - facts about high unemployment,
lower take-home pay, a loss of American power and prestige abroad, a lack of leadership, etc. As a politician, though, Romney failed because he did not embrace the devil's bargain of making unsustainable promises.

It turned out that it was not possible for Romney and Ryan - people of substance, depth and ideas - to compete with the shallow populism and platitudes of their opponents. Obama mastered the politics of envy – of class warfare - never reaching out to Americans as such but to individual groups, and cobbling together a winning majority from these minority groups. If an Obama could not be defeated - with his record and his vision of America , in which free stuff seduces voters - it is hard to envision any change in the future.

The road to Hillary Clinton in 2016 and to a European-socialist economy - those very economies that are collapsing today in Europe - is paved.

For Jews, mostly assimilated anyway and staunch Democrats, the results demonstrate again that liberalism is their Torah. Almost 70% voted for a
president widely perceived by Israelis and most committed Jews as hostile to Israel . They voted to secure Obama's future at America 's expense and at Israel 's expense - in effect, preferring Obama to Netanyahu by a wide margin.

A dangerous time is ahead. Under present circumstances, it is inconceivable that the US will take any aggressive action against Iran and will more
likely thwart any Israeli initiative. The US will preach the importance of negotiations up until the production of the first Iranian nuclear weapon - and then state that the world must learn to live with this new reality.

But this election should be a wake-up call to Jews. There is no permanent empire, nor is there an enduring haven for Jews anywhere in the exile. The American empire began to decline in 2007, and the deterioration has been exacerbated in the last five years. This election only hastens that decline.
Society is permeated with sloth, greed, envy and materialistic excess. It has lost its moorings and its moral foundations.. The takers outnumber the givers, and that will only increase in years to come.

The "Occupy" riots across this country in the last two years were mere dress rehearsals for what lies ahead - years of unrest sparked by the increasing discontent of the unsuccessful who want to seize the fruits and the bounty of the successful, and do not appreciate the slow pace of redistribution.

If this election proves one thing, it is that the Old America is gone. And, sad for the world, it is not coming back."
 

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Interesting article. The author does makes some good points.

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Interesting article. The author does makes some good points.

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No, he doesn't.

Romney and Ryan and the GOP work on the philosophy of "I've Got Mine, Fuck You".

That kind of philosophy died in September 2008, when we all found out how close most of us are to the abyss.

Probably when we saw that despite all our hard work, we found ourselves with busted 401K's and underwater mortgages and reduced salaries while the 1% got bailouts and bonuses.

And then we caught Romney talking to a bunch of 1%ers who paid more for a single plate than most of us make in a year talk about how half of us are "moochers". A guy who pays 11% tax on his wealth while the rest of us are paying more.

The only thing that got Romney as close as he was is that a lot of you dumb rednecks getting shat upon by the 1% are too racist and religious to realize you are being crapped on.
 
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Interesting article. The author does makes some good points.

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No, he doesn't.

Romney and Ryan and the GOP work on the philosophy of "I've Got Mine, Fuck You".

That kind of philosophy died in September 2008, when we all found out how close most of us are to the abyss.

Probably when we saw that despite all our hard work, we found ourselves with busted 401K's and underwater mortgages and reduced salaries while the 1% got bailouts and bonuses.

And then we caught Romney talking to a bunch of 1%ers who paid more for a single plate than most of us make in a year talk about how half of us are "moochers". A guy who pays 11% tax on his wealth while the rest of us are paying more.

The only thing that got Romney as close as he was is that a lot of you dumb rednecks getting shat upon by the 1% are too racist and religious to realize you are being crapped on.
Actually, ones with under water mortgages have no one to blame but themselves. But those days are gone as the article states

-Geaux
 

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The old America was based on a few rich people exploiting everyone else... and using race and religion to keep us fighting amongst ourselves.

Good riddance.
Exactly.

What conservatives mourn:

-The loss of the "right" of white Americans to own black Americans.
-The Dominance of European White Christian Males over the American Culture.
-The notion that everyone "knew their place".

Too bad..fools.
 

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Interesting article. The author does makes some good points.

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No, he doesn't.

Romney and Ryan and the GOP work on the philosophy of "I've Got Mine, Fuck You".

That kind of philosophy died in September 2008, when we all found out how close most of us are to the abyss.

Probably when we saw that despite all our hard work, we found ourselves with busted 401K's and underwater mortgages and reduced salaries while the 1% got bailouts and bonuses.

And then we caught Romney talking to a bunch of 1%ers who paid more for a single plate than most of us make in a year talk about how half of us are "moochers". A guy who pays 11% tax on his wealth while the rest of us are paying more.

The only thing that got Romney as close as he was is that a lot of you dumb rednecks getting shat upon by the 1% are too racist and religious to realize you are being crapped on.
Actually, ones with under water mortgages have no one to blame but themselves. But those days are gone as the article states

-Geaux
That's incorrect.

Many of the loan agents actually lied to get their clients loans.

One of the things that the new regulations put an end to was that practice.

Which has you folks up in arms..
 

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Many of us have been saying all of these things for sometime now.
In the words of the past Ukrainian President - "The world needs America's leadership, it's military and influence. Without it, someone else fills the void. And today we see that void being filled by Putin and China."
Americans have long ago lost our way. We want everything - and we want it yesterday.
In the 1980's-90's this "free stuff" desire came in the form of debt as income. Average Americans everywhere had anywhere from $3-$4000 to $10,000's in Credit card debt. Having a 2nd mortgage before the 1980's was unusual to say the least. Rare. After 1980, NOT having a 2nd mortgage, 3rd Mortgage, multiple refi's was rare. We borrowed money in order to avoid having to wait till we earned the money to buy our stuff.
And then we declared bankruptcy to avoid actually paying for it.
 

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Actually, ones with under water mortgages have no one to blame but themselves. But those days are gone as the article states

-Geaux
No, they should blame the people who manipulated the market, who built a shitload of "McMansions" and marketted them to people who couldn't afford them. Who wrote out home loans to people who couldn't afford them on the theory that they could always foreclose and sell them at a profit. Then they took these bad mortgages and sold them off as investments, crashing the economy.

The rest of us were just doing our jobs, getting on with our lives.

But the 1%ers were all laughing it up.

Oops. Someone caught it on tape.

 
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No, he doesn't.

Romney and Ryan and the GOP work on the philosophy of "I've Got Mine, Fuck You".

That kind of philosophy died in September 2008, when we all found out how close most of us are to the abyss.

Probably when we saw that despite all our hard work, we found ourselves with busted 401K's and underwater mortgages and reduced salaries while the 1% got bailouts and bonuses.

And then we caught Romney talking to a bunch of 1%ers who paid more for a single plate than most of us make in a year talk about how half of us are "moochers". A guy who pays 11% tax on his wealth while the rest of us are paying more.

The only thing that got Romney as close as he was is that a lot of you dumb rednecks getting shat upon by the 1% are too racist and religious to realize you are being crapped on.
You come off as jealous and spiteful

You don't mind rich guys as long as they are kidding you they care more for you than the GOP. The tired old lines are now boring...yawn. The moochers are a greatful bunch of takers that in 2008 was a huge voting block for all the wrong reasons.....gimme gimme gimme. If that floats your boat that's fine but your lack of self awareness is what confuses the rest of us
 

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I agree with the rabbi

I've watched our country slide from people with pride who would of had to lose an arm and a leg before they accepted government handouts (welfare, food stamps etc,) to one today where we have 47% of the people in this country getting some form of government handout and could give not a care they are living off the backs of the taxpayers in this country...

Obama, the snake oil salesman and his commie progressives knew this...Why else would the people elect someone with no experience in anything, but community organizing.?

This should tell you everything you need to know about the Democrat/progressive party of today folks
[ame=http://youtu.be/96QTR9Q4VrY]The Life of Julia! - YouTube[/ame]

are we not coming back as the article says? I believe we are too far gone already.
It was a free country and we were lucky to be a free people, instead of today now we are subject of The Government and it's because the citizenry today want's that..
 
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Many of us have been saying all of these things for sometime now.
In the words of the past Ukrainian President - "The world needs America's leadership, it's military and influence. Without it, someone else fills the void. And today we see that void being filled by Putin and China."
Americans have long ago lost our way. We want everything - and we want it yesterday.
In the 1980's-90's this "free stuff" desire came in the form of debt as income. Average Americans everywhere had anywhere from $3-$4000 to $10,000's in Credit card debt. Having a 2nd mortgage before the 1980's was unusual to say the least. Rare. After 1980, NOT having a 2nd mortgage, 3rd Mortgage, multiple refi's was rare. We borrowed money in order to avoid having to wait till we earned the money to buy our stuff.
And then we declared bankruptcy to avoid actually paying for it.
According to your own chart, the personal bankruptcy rate up to 2004 was only .6%. And the Credit Card companies went to the GOP Congress and demanded protection from the people with no assets they loaned money to declaring bankruptcy.

Totally ignore that 62% of those personal bankruptcies usually involved some kind of medical crisis becaue we are the last country in the world that doesn't have universal health care.

The real problem, of course, is that the 1% has found all sorts of new ways to cheat the rest of us.

Free Trade
Union Busting
RIght to Work
At Will Employment

So when you have the bust come, they can reduce your salary, and you'll be happy to still have a job.
 
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No, he doesn't.

Romney and Ryan and the GOP work on the philosophy of "I've Got Mine, Fuck You".

That kind of philosophy died in September 2008, when we all found out how close most of us are to the abyss.

Probably when we saw that despite all our hard work, we found ourselves with busted 401K's and underwater mortgages and reduced salaries while the 1% got bailouts and bonuses.

And then we caught Romney talking to a bunch of 1%ers who paid more for a single plate than most of us make in a year talk about how half of us are "moochers". A guy who pays 11% tax on his wealth while the rest of us are paying more.

The only thing that got Romney as close as he was is that a lot of you dumb rednecks getting shat upon by the 1% are too racist and religious to realize you are being crapped on.
Actually, ones with under water mortgages have no one to blame but themselves. But those days are gone as the article states

-Geaux
That's incorrect.

Many of the loan agents actually lied to get their clients loans.

One of the things that the new regulations put an end to was that practice.

Which has you folks up in arms..
:bsflag:- Only a dumbass lets a loan officer convince them they have more money than they do.

-Geaux
 

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Many of us have been saying all of these things for sometime now.
In the words of the past Ukrainian President - "The world needs America's leadership, it's military and influence. Without it, someone else fills the void. And today we see that void being filled by Putin and China."
Americans have long ago lost our way. We want everything - and we want it yesterday.
In the 1980's-90's this "free stuff" desire came in the form of debt as income. Average Americans everywhere had anywhere from $3-$4000 to $10,000's in Credit card debt. Having a 2nd mortgage before the 1980's was unusual to say the least. Rare. After 1980, NOT having a 2nd mortgage, 3rd Mortgage, multiple refi's was rare. We borrowed money in order to avoid having to wait till we earned the money to buy our stuff.
And then we declared bankruptcy to avoid actually paying for it.
According to your own chart, the personal bankruptcy rate up to 2004 was only .6%. And the Credit Card companies went to the GOP Congress and demanded protection from the people with no assets they loaned money to declaring bankruptcy.

Totally ignore that 62% of those personal bankruptcies usually involved some kind of medical crisis becaue we are the last country in the world that doesn't have universal health care.

The real problem, of course, is that the 1% has found all sorts of new ways to cheat the rest of us.

Free Trade
Union Busting
RIght to Work
At Will Employment

So when you have the bust come, they can reduce your salary, and you'll be happy to still have a job.
 

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No, he doesn't.

Romney and Ryan and the GOP work on the philosophy of "I've Got Mine, Fuck You".

That kind of philosophy died in September 2008, when we all found out how close most of us are to the abyss.

Probably when we saw that despite all our hard work, we found ourselves with busted 401K's and underwater mortgages and reduced salaries while the 1% got bailouts and bonuses.

And then we caught Romney talking to a bunch of 1%ers who paid more for a single plate than most of us make in a year talk about how half of us are "moochers". A guy who pays 11% tax on his wealth while the rest of us are paying more.

The only thing that got Romney as close as he was is that a lot of you dumb rednecks getting shat upon by the 1% are too racist and religious to realize you are being crapped on.
You come off as jealous and spiteful

You don't mind rich guys as long as they are kidding you they care more for you than the GOP. The tired old lines are now boring...yawn. The moochers are a greatful bunch of takers that in 2008 was a huge voting block for all the wrong reasons.....gimme gimme gimme. If that floats your boat that's fine but your lack of self awareness is what confuses the rest of us
Which moochers?

I, for one, am tired of the moochers at General Dynamics and Raytheon that keep getting fat government contracts because of politicians they paid for in congress.

I'm tired of unelected morons sitting in "think tanks" like ALEC and writing legislation that gets passed in congress that was neither campaigned on or were issues. They are passed mainly to fill the pockets of their rich backers.

I'm tired of the financial industry fleecing everyone and when it all goes down the tubes, the rest of the country is left holding the bag.

That's what you folks gave us.

Enough is enough.
 

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The fat cat corporatist moochers can step off. They are far more despicable than those who mooch the government programs when they don't have. How much more wrong are those who have so much and still steal from the govt.
 
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The fat cat corporatist moochers can step off. They are far more despicable than those who mooch the government programs when they don't have. How much more wrong are those who have so much and still steal from the govt.
Yet OMama is only increasing the divide you protest

-Geaux

 

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