Taliban using Anti-Mosque Fever to Recruit Members

[Si modo]

Damn. Just damn.

The stupid is thick.

 

[Middleman]

So, the Taliban, which doesn't allow any expression of other religious persuasions, bans girls going to school, strictly enforces Sharia law with all its excesses, thinks Americans are intolerant?

Taliban restrictions and mistreatment of women include the:

1- Complete ban on women's work outside the home, which also applies to female teachers, engineers and most professionals. Only a few female doctors and nurses are allowed to work in some hospitals in Kabul.

2- Complete ban on women's activity outside the home unless accompanied by a mahram (close male relative such as a father, brother or husband).

3- Ban on women dealing with male shopkeepers.

4- Ban on women being treated by male doctors.

5- Ban on women studying at schools, universities or any other educational institution. (Taliban have converted girls' schools into religious seminaries.)

6- Requirement that women wear a long veil (Burqa), which covers them from head to toe.

7- Whipping, beating and verbal abuse of women not clothed in accordance with Taliban rules, or of women unaccompanied by a mahram.

8- Whipping of women in public for having non-covered ankles.

9- Public stoning of women accused of having sex outside marriage. (A number of lovers are stoned to death under this rule).

10- Ban on the use of cosmetics. (Many women with painted nails have had fingers cut off).

11- Ban on women talking or shaking hands with non-mahram males.

12- Ban on women laughing loudly. (No stranger should hear a woman's voice).

13- Ban on women wearing high heel shoes, which would produce sound while walking. (A man must not hear a woman's footsteps.)

14- Ban on women riding in a taxi without a mahram.

15- Ban on women's presence in radio, television or public gatherings of any kind.

16- Ban on women playing sports or entering a sport center or club.

17- Ban on women riding bicycles or motorcycles, even with their mahrams.

18- Ban on women's wearing brightly colored clothes. In Taliban terms, these are "sexually attracting colors."

19- Ban on women gathering for festive occasions such as the Eids, or for any recreational purpose.

20- Ban on women washing clothes next to rivers or in a public place.

21- Modification of all place names including the word "women." For example, "women's garden" has been renamed "spring garden".

22- Ban on women appearing on the balconies of their apartments or houses.

23- Compulsory painting of all windows, so women can not be seen from outside their homes.

24- Ban on male tailors taking women's measurements or sewing women's clothes.

25- Ban on female public baths.

26- Ban on males and females traveling on the same bus. Public buses have now been designated "males only" (or "females only").

27- Ban on flared (wide) pant-legs, even under a burqa.

28- Ban on the photographing or filming of women.

29- Ban on women's pictures printed in newspapers and books, or hung on the walls of houses and shops.

Apart from the above restrictions on women, the Taliban has:

- Banned listening to music, not only for women but men as well.

- Banned the watching of movies, television and videos, for everyone.

- Banned celebrating the traditional new year (Nowroz) on March 21. The Taliban has proclaimed the holiday un-Islamic.

- Disavowed Labor Day (May 1st), because it is deemed a "communist" holiday.

- Ordered that all people with non-Islamic names change them to Islamic ones.

- Forced haircuts upon Afghan youth.

- Ordered that men wear Islamic clothes and a cap.

- Ordered that men not shave or trim their beards, which should grow long enough to protrude from a fist clasped at the point of the chin.

- Ordered that all people attend prayers in mosques five times daily.

- Banned the keeping of pigeons and playing with the birds, describing it as un-Islamic. The violators will be imprisoned and the birds shall be killed. The kite flying has also been stopped.

- Ordered all onlookers, while encouraging the sportsmen, to chant Allah-o-Akbar (God is great) and refrain from clapping.

- Ban on certain games including kite flying which is "un-Islamic" according to Taliban.

- Anyone who carries objectionable literature will be executed.

- Anyone who converts from Islam to any other religion will be executed.

- All boy students must wear turbans. They say "No turban, no education".

- Non-Muslim minorities must distinct badge or stitch a yellow cloth onto their dress to be differentiated from the majority Muslim population. Just like what did Nazis with Jews.

- Banned the use of the internet by both ordinary Afghans and foreigners.

And so on...

some of the restrictions imposed by Taliban in Afghanistan

Yet, it seems like some liberals in this country hate free expression in regards to opinions about Islam, and make excuses for Islam's negative attributes that actually totally fly in the face of liberal values. They seem to hate our own cultural roots in favor of even a religion that can be 100 times more intolerant than anything currently practiced in Christianity today. It's really perplexing.

Is it a racial thing? Do some people just automatically despise anything associated with White, European culture and side with browner people? Is that what it is?

 

[Truthmatters]

Si, I know you can not absorb the wisdom of what is considered the premiere work on how to wage war but others here will benifit from its wisdom.

Read it and maybe you can gleen the things you are capable of understanding, you know , some new way to avoid the real issue. I think you will find it in a negative example of how to LOSE a war though.

 

[Truthmatters]

So, the Taliban, which doesn't allow any expression of other religious persuasions, bans girls going to school, strictly enforces Sharia law with all its excesses, thinks Americans are intolerant?

Taliban restrictions and mistreatment of women include the:

1- Complete ban on women's work outside the home, which also applies to female teachers, engineers and most professionals. Only a few female doctors and nurses are allowed to work in some hospitals in Kabul.

2- Complete ban on women's activity outside the home unless accompanied by a mahram (close male relative such as a father, brother or husband).

3- Ban on women dealing with male shopkeepers.

4- Ban on women being treated by male doctors.

5- Ban on women studying at schools, universities or any other educational institution. (Taliban have converted girls' schools into religious seminaries.)

6- Requirement that women wear a long veil (Burqa), which covers them from head to toe.

7- Whipping, beating and verbal abuse of women not clothed in accordance with Taliban rules, or of women unaccompanied by a mahram.

8- Whipping of women in public for having non-covered ankles.

9- Public stoning of women accused of having sex outside marriage. (A number of lovers are stoned to death under this rule).

10- Ban on the use of cosmetics. (Many women with painted nails have had fingers cut off).

11- Ban on women talking or shaking hands with non-mahram males.

12- Ban on women laughing loudly. (No stranger should hear a woman's voice).

13- Ban on women wearing high heel shoes, which would produce sound while walking. (A man must not hear a woman's footsteps.)

14- Ban on women riding in a taxi without a mahram.

15- Ban on women's presence in radio, television or public gatherings of any kind.

16- Ban on women playing sports or entering a sport center or club.

17- Ban on women riding bicycles or motorcycles, even with their mahrams.

18- Ban on women's wearing brightly colored clothes. In Taliban terms, these are "sexually attracting colors."

19- Ban on women gathering for festive occasions such as the Eids, or for any recreational purpose.

20- Ban on women washing clothes next to rivers or in a public place.

21- Modification of all place names including the word "women." For example, "women's garden" has been renamed "spring garden".

22- Ban on women appearing on the balconies of their apartments or houses.

23- Compulsory painting of all windows, so women can not be seen from outside their homes.

24- Ban on male tailors taking women's measurements or sewing women's clothes.

25- Ban on female public baths.

26- Ban on males and females traveling on the same bus. Public buses have now been designated "males only" (or "females only").

27- Ban on flared (wide) pant-legs, even under a burqa.

28- Ban on the photographing or filming of women.

29- Ban on women's pictures printed in newspapers and books, or hung on the walls of houses and shops.

Apart from the above restrictions on women, the Taliban has:

- Banned listening to music, not only for women but men as well.

- Banned the watching of movies, television and videos, for everyone.

- Banned celebrating the traditional new year (Nowroz) on March 21. The Taliban has proclaimed the holiday un-Islamic.

- Disavowed Labor Day (May 1st), because it is deemed a "communist" holiday.

- Ordered that all people with non-Islamic names change them to Islamic ones.

- Forced haircuts upon Afghan youth.

- Ordered that men wear Islamic clothes and a cap.

- Ordered that men not shave or trim their beards, which should grow long enough to protrude from a fist clasped at the point of the chin.

- Ordered that all people attend prayers in mosques five times daily.

- Banned the keeping of pigeons and playing with the birds, describing it as un-Islamic. The violators will be imprisoned and the birds shall be killed. The kite flying has also been stopped.

- Ordered all onlookers, while encouraging the sportsmen, to chant Allah-o-Akbar (God is great) and refrain from clapping.

- Ban on certain games including kite flying which is "un-Islamic" according to Taliban.

- Anyone who carries objectionable literature will be executed.

- Anyone who converts from Islam to any other religion will be executed.

- All boy students must wear turbans. They say "No turban, no education".

- Non-Muslim minorities must distinct badge or stitch a yellow cloth onto their dress to be differentiated from the majority Muslim population. Just like what did Nazis with Jews.

- Banned the use of the internet by both ordinary Afghans and foreigners.

And so on...

some of the restrictions imposed by Taliban in Afghanistan

Yet, it seems like some liberals in this country hate free expression in regards to opinions about Islam, and make excuses for Islam's negative attributes that actually totally fly in the face of liberal values. They seem to hate our own cultural roots in favor of even a religion that can be 100 times more intolerant than anything currently practiced in Christianity today. It's really perplexing.

Is it a racial thing? Do some people just automatically despise anything associated with White, European culture and side with browner people? Is that what it is?

故曰：知彼知己，百戰不殆；不知彼而知己，一勝一負；不知彼，不知己，每戰必殆。
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.

 

[Si modo]

Si, I know you can not absorb the wisdom of what is considered the premiere work on how to wage war but others here will benifit from its wisdom.

Read it and maybe you can gleen the things you are capable of understanding, you know , some new way to avoid the real issue. I think you will find it in a negative example of how to LOSE a war though.

Exactly what part of my saying that no one...not a single person...is arguing whether the Art of War is real or not, except for you, has you perplexed?

You keep arguing with yourself. It's fascinating to watch, like a train wreck.

 

[chanel]

Yes. We must strive the understand them. Check out the folks waiting for concert tickets. Oh wait. Nope - it's tickets to see a stoning.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Astounding thread, I cant believe you all are circling the drain with that lying strawman stuffing kook again.(TM)
She thinks A newsweek piece holds greater insight into the incentives of Islamic fundamentalist than the Quran hadith .
If you look to them you are in favor of a genocidal hate war.

 

[Truthmatters]

So will you ever answer the question of wether one should know their enemy if they wish to win a war?

That is what the Art of War says.


Knowing your enemy is knowing who they are and what their motivations are.

When you claim an entire religion is your enemy and it is not you have just caused yourself a huge possibility of losing the war by forcing those you dont need to fight to fight you.

 

[Modbert]

Of course all this Anti-Muslim sentiment in the US currently makes for a attractive recruiting technique. The argument they can make to these people in not only America but across the globe is something along the lines of:

"These people don't see you as any different than us. They don't treat you any different, in fact they see you as a enemy despite everything you do otherwise. Your belief system is being called to be destroyed across the globe. Look at the Imam in NY, they call him a terrorist and he worked for the FBI and missions for two Presidents, if they can smear him with the terrorist name, why not you?"

I'm not saying what they would be sprouting would be correct either. However, they will have enough evidence to dishonestly frame it to make their argument seem appealing.

 

[Si modo]

So will you ever answer the question of wether one should know their enemy if they wish to win a war?

That is what the Art of War says.


Knowing your enemy is knowing who they are and what their motivations are.

When you claim an entire religion is your enemy and it is not you have just caused yourself a huge possibility of losing the war by forcing those you dont need to fight to fight you.

Strawman.

I know you haven't the capacity to understand what one is, though.

Moron.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Of course all this Anti-Muslim sentiment in the US currently makes for a attractive recruiting technique. The argument they can make to these people in not only America but across the globe is something along the lines of:

"These people don't see you as any different than us. They don't treat you any different, in fact they see you as a enemy despite everything you do otherwise. Your belief system is being called to be destroyed across the globe. Look at the Imam in NY, they call him a terrorist and he worked for the FBI and missions for two Presidents, if they can smear him with the terrorist name, why not you?"

I'm not saying what they would be sprouting would be correct either. However, they will have enough evidence to dishonestly frame it to make their argument seem appealing.

I concur with Modbert.

 

[Tom Clancy]

Know your enemy folks.

Its how you win.

I love how so many of you will ignore and belittle the smart ways to fight an enemy for temporary political gain.

What the fuck are you talking about?

You in denial?

 

[Tom Clancy]

They want a world war against a entire religion.


It is utter stupidity.

You DO NOT seek to make your enemy stronger by adding to his ranks.

Mind proving that statement Ms?

 

[Tom Clancy]

You seem to think knowing your enemy is a partisan endevor.

When you argue with the greatest work on war that was ever written and call it partisan puppetry you make a fool of yourself.

You fucking moron.... your problem is you cannot get it into your thick skull that, just because you think all Republicans are stupid warmongers who hate Islam, that does not make it true.

I do NOT seek to make anyone my enemy. WTF is the matter with you? Are you so fucking borglike that you cannot comprehend the concept of individual thought?

You show me a post where I (as an individual) have 'argued with the greatest work on war that was ever written' and show me where I have called it 'partisan puppetry'. Otherwise, the one that has made a fool of themselves is not me... it is you.

And I want the exact post - from me. Put up or shut up.

At the risk of repeating myself.... I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN. And.... the only person on this board that I have seen claim to 'hate' anyone based on nothing more than your groupthink is you... with your classic line 'I hate Republicans'.

You are a con.

All cons will vote republican.

You know it , I know it everyone knows it.


You responded to a quote from the Art of War with an insult for me which implied that the idea was partisan puppetry.

You know it , I know it and everyone knows it.

You are a Lib.

All Libs will vote Democrat.

You know it , I know it everyone knows it.

I sometimes wonder. how much of a fucking hack you can be..

 

[Tom Clancy]

You are a con.

All cons will vote republican.

You know it , I know it everyone knows it.


You responded to a quote from the Art of War with an insult for me which implied that the idea was partisan puppetry.

You know it , I know it and everyone knows it.

You THINK you know. Big difference, moron. And, for the record, you don't speak on behalf of this mythical 'everyone'.

So, basically, you ASS U med something that you cannot, in FACT, back up. That makes you a liar, truth matters.

It is a reasonable acessment to assume you will not vote for any democratic canidate in any near elections.


You want to pretend this is some affront on you because....well ..... because you are an emotional irrational fool.


Everyone who posts here and sees your posts knows you are right wing fring and will vote that way.

Just like you will never vote for a (R) in your entire life? Because apparently all of them are Islamophobic and Racists.

Fuckin' hack.

 

[Truthmatters]

I never claimed I would vote for someone other than a democrat.

 

[Tom Clancy]

Si, Why dont you go read the Art of War and get back to us when you have caught up to speed with the rest of us.

Have you ever read the Art Of War?

 

[Truthmatters]

Nope , I never claimed to have read it.

I have studied it a little though and it is recognised as THE book of war.

 

[Tom Clancy]

I never claimed I would vote for someone other than a democrat.

You don't need to claim it, the partisan bullshit you post around here is enough proof for all of us to know.

 

[Tom Clancy]

Nope , I never claimed to have read it.

I have studied it a little though and it is recognised as THE book of war.

Then stop being so high and mighty telling other people to read it when you yourself haven't read shit.

Actually, it's the Art Of War, By Sun Tzu.

The art of war: the definitive interpretation of Sun Tzu's classic book of strategy for the martial artist [Book]