Susan Rice Said Yesterday On MSNBC That Obama Ordered Intel Collection In January. Trump Was Right

[HenryBHough]

Time for a special prosecutor and to start recruiting for a firing squad.

 

[GaryDog]

What Rice did may not have been 'criminal' but was an egregious abuse of power!!!!

Not according to General Hayden, and a slew of other people who actually know shit.

You, on the other hand, don't know shit.

The allegation against Rice and the Obama administration is that the unmasking of Trump-campaign and transition officials appears — cumulatively, and probably in many specific instances of it — to have run afoul of minimization instructions. These instructions are proposed by the Justice Department and ordered by the FISA court.

"Appears" to certain right-wing pundits on Fox News, and no one else of consequence.

 

[GaryDog]

Time for a special prosecutor and to start recruiting for a firing squad.

Agreed, but only one guy is currently asking for immunity, and he ain't from the Obama administration.

 

[KeiserC]

Time for a special prosecutor and to start recruiting for a firing squad.

Though I would like to agree with the entirety of that I can only agree to the special prosecutor part... Abuse of power isn't necessarily criminal but certainly could be punitively addressed....

 

[Weatherman2020]

The Talking Points now are Obama and Rice were doing their jobs by spying on Americans and releasing the details to the public.

Guess that gives Trump a lot of things to be doing now.

releasing the details to the public.

Who did that?

They were doing their jobs by spying on foreign threats. Trump only got caught up in that because he is a foreign threat. God, what has become of the republican party?!

Obama mocked Romney for saying Russia was a foreign adversary.
So Obama lied yet again

 

[KeiserC]

The Talking Points now are Obama and Rice were doing their jobs by spying on Americans and releasing the details to the public.

Guess that gives Trump a lot of things to be doing now.

releasing the details to the public.

Who did that?

They were doing their jobs by spying on foreign threats. Trump only got caught up in that because he is a foreign threat. God, what has become of the republican party?!

Obama mocked Romney for saying Russia was a foreign adversary.
So Obama lied yet again

I know you were trying to be "ironical"... but that's just too dumb man...

 

[Weatherman2020]

The Talking Points now are Obama and Rice were doing their jobs by spying on Americans and releasing the details to the public.

Guess that gives Trump a lot of things to be doing now.

releasing the details to the public.

Who did that?

They were doing their jobs by spying on foreign threats. Trump only got caught up in that because he is a foreign threat. God, what has become of the republican party?!

Obama mocked Romney for saying Russia was a foreign adversary.
So Obama lied yet again

I know you were trying to be "ironical"... but that's just too dumb man...

Yeah, it is dumb you voted for the worst President in history who lied every time his lips moved.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

'Denials Don't Add Up'

Susan Rice's alleged unmasking requests not so routine, ex-officials say

"While Susan Rice is defending as routine her requests for the identities of Americans caught up in surveillance of foreign targets, others who’ve served in the intelligence community and at high levels of government say the former national security adviser's requests were quite unusual."

“The national security adviser person is a manager position, not an analyst position,” he said. “You have analysts in the intelligence community whose job is to sort through who is doing what with what. Susan Rice is a senior manager looking over the entire intelligence community. She should not have time to be unmasking individuals having conversations. It’s insane. It’s never done.”

And your sources is a former CIA analyst and a retired Lt. Col. LMAO, meanwhile, all active intelligence officials higher up agree it was routine, as does General Hayden and others.

The Bogus Susan Rice Story Shows How Desperate the White House Is Getting


I asked retired Lt. Gen. Michael Hayden, former director of the National Security Agency, whether it’s unlawful or even unusual for someone in Rice’s position to ask the NSA to unmask the names of Americans caught up in intercepts. He replied, in an email, “Absolutely lawful. Even somewhat routine.”

There would have been no intelligence need for Susan Rice to ask for identities to be unmasked. If there had been a real need to reveal the identities — an intelligence need based on American interests — the unmasking would have been done by the investigating agencies. The national-security adviser is not an investigator. She is a White House staffer. The president’s staff is a consumer of intelligence, not a generator or collector of it. If Susan Rice was unmasking Americans, it was not to fulfill an intelligence need based on American interests; it was to fulfill a political desire based on Democratic-party interests.

the unmasking would have been done by the investigating agencies.

It was. Rice has no ability to do it on her own.
She had to make a request to the originating agency. The fact that it was granted only shows that it was done correctly.

 

[Iceweasel]

Indeed, and it's why they're so ******* butthurt and defensive. They know the best defense is a good offense, so they're attacking the routine measures by Rice as somehow illegal, when it's likely that the Trump team was acting illegally (hence they were caught up in surveillance.)

You're amusing. Right now Progressives are playing defense like the San Francisco 49ers. Total losers. Every time they claim President Donald Trump is lying (Petulant former President Obama tapping Trump Towers) it turns out to be true and then they go scrambling. How or why they put Susan Rice out in front again, with her record as a serial liar, is anyone's guess.

Progressives may want to start saving some of their powder as they are being proven wrong fast and faster.

Defense over what? Nothing Rice did was illegal, unethical, or even out of the ordinary, per all the major intelligence officials.

Only if you have no ethics and respect no laws that get in your way politically.

 

[KeiserC]

The Talking Points now are Obama and Rice were doing their jobs by spying on Americans and releasing the details to the public.

Guess that gives Trump a lot of things to be doing now.

releasing the details to the public.

Who did that?

They were doing their jobs by spying on foreign threats. Trump only got caught up in that because he is a foreign threat. God, what has become of the republican party?!

Obama mocked Romney for saying Russia was a foreign adversary.
So Obama lied yet again

I know you were trying to be "ironical"... but that's just too dumb man...

Yeah, it is dumb you voted for the worst President in history who lied every time his lips moved.

I can't even go there on this one... some big statements your making there... I bet you could even strike down the logic in your x2 assertions....

 

[Markle]

"Tapp" means ******* nothing because this illiterate piece of shit can't spell.

"Tap" means to electronically record his phone conversations via a recording device on his phones, at Trump Tower.

Your desperation, and childishness are, once again, duly noted!

 

[Weatherman2020]

Who did that?

They were doing their jobs by spying on foreign threats. Trump only got caught up in that because he is a foreign threat. God, what has become of the republican party?!

Obama mocked Romney for saying Russia was a foreign adversary.
So Obama lied yet again

I know you were trying to be "ironical"... but that's just too dumb man...

Yeah, it is dumb you voted for the worst President in history who lied every time his lips moved.

I can't even go there on this one... some big statements your making there... I bet you could even strike down the logic in your x2 assertions....

Tell Vladimir I will have more flexibility after the election.

 

[Weatherman2020]

'Denials Don't Add Up'

Susan Rice's alleged unmasking requests not so routine, ex-officials say

"While Susan Rice is defending as routine her requests for the identities of Americans caught up in surveillance of foreign targets, others who’ve served in the intelligence community and at high levels of government say the former national security adviser's requests were quite unusual."

“The national security adviser person is a manager position, not an analyst position,” he said. “You have analysts in the intelligence community whose job is to sort through who is doing what with what. Susan Rice is a senior manager looking over the entire intelligence community. She should not have time to be unmasking individuals having conversations. It’s insane. It’s never done.”

And your sources is a former CIA analyst and a retired Lt. Col. LMAO, meanwhile, all active intelligence officials higher up agree it was routine, as does General Hayden and others.

The Bogus Susan Rice Story Shows How Desperate the White House Is Getting


I asked retired Lt. Gen. Michael Hayden, former director of the National Security Agency, whether it’s unlawful or even unusual for someone in Rice’s position to ask the NSA to unmask the names of Americans caught up in intercepts. He replied, in an email, “Absolutely lawful. Even somewhat routine.”

There would have been no intelligence need for Susan Rice to ask for identities to be unmasked. If there had been a real need to reveal the identities — an intelligence need based on American interests — the unmasking would have been done by the investigating agencies. The national-security adviser is not an investigator. She is a White House staffer. The president’s staff is a consumer of intelligence, not a generator or collector of it. If Susan Rice was unmasking Americans, it was not to fulfill an intelligence need based on American interests; it was to fulfill a political desire based on Democratic-party interests.

the unmasking would have been done by the investigating agencies.

It was. Rice has no ability to do it on her own.
She had to make a request to the originating agency. The fact that it was granted only shows that it was done correctly.

So Nixon was innocent?

 

[KeiserC]

'Denials Don't Add Up'

Susan Rice's alleged unmasking requests not so routine, ex-officials say

"While Susan Rice is defending as routine her requests for the identities of Americans caught up in surveillance of foreign targets, others who’ve served in the intelligence community and at high levels of government say the former national security adviser's requests were quite unusual."

“The national security adviser person is a manager position, not an analyst position,” he said. “You have analysts in the intelligence community whose job is to sort through who is doing what with what. Susan Rice is a senior manager looking over the entire intelligence community. She should not have time to be unmasking individuals having conversations. It’s insane. It’s never done.”

And your sources is a former CIA analyst and a retired Lt. Col. LMAO, meanwhile, all active intelligence officials higher up agree it was routine, as does General Hayden and others.

The Bogus Susan Rice Story Shows How Desperate the White House Is Getting


I asked retired Lt. Gen. Michael Hayden, former director of the National Security Agency, whether it’s unlawful or even unusual for someone in Rice’s position to ask the NSA to unmask the names of Americans caught up in intercepts. He replied, in an email, “Absolutely lawful. Even somewhat routine.”

There would have been no intelligence need for Susan Rice to ask for identities to be unmasked. If there had been a real need to reveal the identities — an intelligence need based on American interests — the unmasking would have been done by the investigating agencies. The national-security adviser is not an investigator. She is a White House staffer. The president’s staff is a consumer of intelligence, not a generator or collector of it. If Susan Rice was unmasking Americans, it was not to fulfill an intelligence need based on American interests; it was to fulfill a political desire based on Democratic-party interests.

the unmasking would have been done by the investigating agencies.

It was. Rice has no ability to do it on her own.
She had to make a request to the originating agency. The fact that it was granted only shows that it was done correctly.

Correct... That's how it's supposed to work...She didn't, exclusively, do it that way.... She had access to the database and did it on her own, as well!!! in addition to, disseminating that which the agencies had already unmasked...

"American citizens cannot be monitored or searched by this process because, unlike foreigners or foreign intelligence agencies, they are protected by the 4th Amendment", Massie said.

When Americans are accidentally caught in the FISA dragnet, their identity is masked as a legal device to protect their 4th Amendment rights, he said.

Massie said he suspects that Rice went into the government database and searched for the names of Americans caught in the drag net, which were accessible through the database.

This is a common practice inside the executive branch and law enforcement agencies with access to the database, he said.

“It is unconstitutional, when they go in and search the database–essentially they are doing a virtual wiretap–as soon as you ID a U.S. citizen,” he said.

 

[Iceweasel]

What Rice did may not have been 'criminal' but was an egregious abuse of power!!!!

Not according to General Hayden, and a slew of other people who actually know shit.

You, on the other hand, don't know shit.

The allegation against Rice and the Obama administration is that the unmasking of Trump-campaign and transition officials appears — cumulatively, and probably in many specific instances of it — to have run afoul of minimization instructions. These instructions are proposed by the Justice Department and ordered by the FISA court.

"Appears" to certain right-wing pundits on Fox News, and no one else of consequence.

The denial is strong with this one.

 

[Markle]

Defense over what? Nothing Rice did was illegal, unethical, or even out of the ordinary, per all the major intelligence officials.

That certainly is bold of you. Defending a serial liar when you only have part of the facts.

There was nothing illegal about the unmasking.

The problem for the past administration is that Susan Rice released the information to 17 intelligence agencies. Whoever leaked the information is guilty of a felony. Two weeks ago she claimed to know NOTHING.,

Do you honestly believe anything this proven serial liar, Susan Rice,says is reliable?

 

[Weatherman2020]

I look forward to Trump releasing spy data on every Democrat who stands in his way.

 

[gipper]

Indeed, and it's why they're so ******* butthurt and defensive. They know the best defense is a good offense, so they're attacking the routine measures by Rice as somehow illegal, when it's likely that the Trump team was acting illegally (hence they were caught up in surveillance.)

You're amusing. Right now Progressives are playing defense like the San Francisco 49ers. Total losers. Every time they claim President Donald Trump is lying (Petulant former President Obama tapping Trump Towers) it turns out to be true and then they go scrambling. How or why they put Susan Rice out in front again, with her record as a serial liar, is anyone's guess.

Progressives may want to start saving some of their powder as they are being proven wrong fast and faster.

They have to attack Trump, to cover for the criminality committed by their Messiah.

lol @ "Criminality"

What does it take for you to admit you were conned by Trump? I'm starting to wonder if even Trump himself could admit to lying, and you'd buy it.

Trump is not the issue, no matter how much the DNC media tries to make him so. Stop believing the establishment media. When you do, you won't be a dupe any longer.

 

[KeiserC]

Defense over what? Nothing Rice did was illegal, unethical, or even out of the ordinary, per all the major intelligence officials.

That certainly is bold of you. Defending a serial liar when you only have part of the facts.

There was nothing illegal about the unmasking.

The problem for the past administration is that Susan Rice released the information to 17 intelligence agencies. Whoever leaked the information is guilty of a felony. Two weeks ago she claimed to know NOTHING.,

Do you honestly believe anything this proven serial liar, Susan Rice,says is reliable?

Actually, that isn't correct.... NSA via FISA court was the genesis of the information... The 16 other agencies get it from NSA...

 

[gipper]

The Talking Points now are Obama and Rice were doing their jobs by spying on Americans and releasing the details to the public.

Guess that gives Trump a lot of things to be doing now.

releasing the details to the public.

Who did that?

They were doing their jobs by spying on foreign threats. Trump only got caught up in that because he is a foreign threat. God, what has become of the republican party?!

Obama mocked Romney for saying Russia was a foreign adversary.
So Obama lied yet again

I know you were trying to be "ironical"... but that's just too dumb man...

Yeah, it is dumb you voted for the worst President in history who lied every time his lips moved.

Sorry to inform you, but Cankles lost.