Suddenly the Democrats are upset at high gas prices

[San Souci]

Kamala Harris was just crying somewhere about the price of gas. She was foaming at the mouth filled with hate and of course she got the Trump bashing in and looking like the exorcist…with her bobble head in full force as she slurred those words. . The room she was in was empty but they did have a pre recording hand clapping for her sorry a$$.

Harris is a drunken Bellyacher--Can you imagine hearing that Whiney VOICE for FOUR years?

 

[White 6]

Oil production is only a part of the price calculation.

I think you are correct, but would you care to list the most operant parts of gasoline price calculation, in your opinion?

 

[White 6]

So then you DID pay $5.00 for a gallon of gas. In some places (maybe California?), it went even higher.

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Point being is that we have been through worse, a lot worse, and for less obvious apparent reason, and we will get through this too, W6, and if we have to pay a bit more for gas for a while (this is affecting the whole planet), I will consider it little consequence if it can settle Iran and bring peace, security and stability to the Middle East at least for a while, and, lessons learned--- next time a mad militocracy seeking nuclear arms holds its sway over the world oil supply while threatening our death, hopefully it won't take us nearly 50 years to finally wake up and do something about it.

As a matter of fact, I paid over $4.00/gal, last time I was in Honolulu, but only once, as I, only getting a 1/4 of a tank, to get me to one of the Army, Navy or Marine bases on the island to get normal price. I do the same in Colorado if summer and stopping in Colorado springs, same as I did in Germany, back on active duty. It is quite often a significant price drop vs the free economy.

I am aware, we have seen worse. It has just been a long time, not actually in my memory, since the price was spiked due to a US President's war of choice, by a President that campaigned as the peace president, promising to keep us out of foreign entanglement. The only entanglement Trump wants to stay out of, even on just providing or even allowing material support, is the illegal Russian invasion of Ukraine. Of course, Russia is one of the winners on Trump's Iran war, as they are being allowed to sell again to ease strain on world market, thus getting a new supply of petrol dollars, to plug into their war to take over Ukraine. Which is no surprise, as trump has history of supporting Russia and other autocratic, strongman regimes.

 

[westwall]

I think you are correct, but would you care to list the most operant parts of gasoline price calculation, in your opinion?

Oil commodities brokers, followed by taxes.

 

[TNHarley]

It is remarkable that now Democrats hate high gas prices.

And suddenly Republicans are fine with them. Weird how that works, huh?

 

[White 6]

Dems on this board were saying that people complaining about historically high prices reached when the party you voted for was in power made bad life choices .. that's why they were have trouble paying the costs of living under the Biden admin .. they made poor life choices and didn't save enough money to pay for democrat rule ... are you going to delete this post like you did 5 of my posts the other day ?

I did not do much suffering, and of course live in a conservative state, so not the best person to ask. While certainly not thrilled with the Trump price increase, due to his war of choice, I actually do not plan to do much suffering, this time around either, as my life choices have turned out fairly comfortable and sustainable, even with Trump in office, though I am not in his selected/preferred high income class of citizens.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I think you are correct, but would you care to list the most operant parts of gasoline price calculation, in your opinion?

ew pick me pick me!

1. Underlying price to purchase.
2. Transport costs of crude to relevant refiner.
3. Refinining costs at relevant refinieries. This includes formulations costs driven by what time of year.
3. Refining costs related to required mixing of ethanols and credits.
4. Transport costs of refined distillates.
5. State and local taxes.
6. Amount of competition and location of retailers referenced.

(Its almost like I did this for twenty years...)

 

[marvin martian]

ew pick me pick me!

1. Underlying price to purchase.
2. Transport costs of crude to relevant refiner.
3. Refinining costs at relevant refinieries. This includes formulations costs driven by what time of year.
3. Refining costs related to required mixing of ethanols and credits.
4. Transport costs of refined distillates.
5. State and local taxes.
6. Amount of competition and location of retailers referenced.

(Its almost like I did this for twenty years...)

What are you paying for gas in France?

 

[toobfreak]

Which is no surprise, as trump has history of supporting Russia and other autocratic, strongman regimes.

It is called knowing how to pick your fights, and keeping your friends close and your enemies even closer.

 

[White 6]

Quoting prices is not what we are discussing. We are discussing motivation. Biden promised to put an end to using gasoline. And try he did.

No he didn't. He approved, opened up and signed (Willow project the biggest new oil drilling project in 20 years previous to his coming to office. He approved new 807-mile natural gas pipeline project in Alaska, which is part of a $38.7 billion initiative that includes liquefied natural gas (LNG) export infrastructure.natural gas. In 2023, on the heals of the Willow project approval Biden administration opened up, 1.6 million acres of waters in the Gulf of Mexico, offered at auction.

You need to look at what presidents do, not what they say to attract voters. Think of it like Trump running as the peace president, that would cut US military intervention and foreign wars, around the world, but now the most intervening, war starting president sine the last time a Republican (George SonovaBush) was in office, even changing the name (on paper only) of the Department of Defense to the Department of War. What the actually do is more impactful than what they say or promise, to get elected. It always has been.

 

[leftwinger]

Out West:

$4 most of Obiden 1.0 **
$3.5 most of Obiden 2.0
$4.79 most of 2025. (Yawnjng)

If working/commuting cost maybe $10 -$20 extra per week. Typically for most.

**special circumstances under Obiden 1.0 caused me to buy 400gal per mo. Pre-inflation it was much more painful. Jobs were none.

 

[westwall]

ew pick me pick me!

1. Underlying price to purchase.
2. Transport costs of crude to relevant refiner.
3. Refinining costs at relevant refinieries. This includes formulations costs driven by what time of year.
3. Refining costs related to required mixing of ethanols and credits.
4. Transport costs of refined distillates.
5. State and local taxes.
6. Amount of competition and location of retailers referenced.

(Its almost like I did this for twenty years...)

You don't mention the commodities brokers, so you must have been a janitor.

 

[leftwinger]

 

[westwall]

Leave, and don't come back.

 

[Zincwarrior]

You don't mention the commodities brokers, so you must have been a janitor.

RDS, Williams, BP, Chevron, Koch were the big market makers when I was around, but again thats all pulling off market indexes. Good way to get into the weeds there boyo. Thou knowest not what thouest means but thats ok.

 

[westwall]

RDS, Williams, BP, Chevron, Koch were the big market makers when I was around, but again thats all pulling off market indexes. Good way to get into the weeds there boyo. Thou knowest not what thouest means but thats ok.

Oh? The big bubble a couple of years ago was completely the result of commodities brokers over buying their actual storage capacity. That's why the oil futures price plummeted because they had to dump what they had to make room for the incoming supply.

Like I said, you spew names....but don't understand the meaning.

 

[toobfreak]

Leave, and don't come back.

I understand some property is opening up for availability in the Cotswolds.

 

[leftwinger]

I sold gold crowns and old bridges to buy food during Obiden 1.0

DON'T TELL ME!!

 

[marvin martian]

She should be warning people in other countries not to come here.

But, I have a feeling she's not doing that.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Oh? The big bubble a couple of years ago was completely the result of commodities brokers over buying their actual storage capacity. That's why the oil futures price plummeted because they had to dump what they had to make room for the incoming supply.

Like I said, you spew names....but don't understand the meaning.

I am sure you think that, based on well nothing.