Study Indicates HOMOSEXUAL ACTS Shorten Lifespan

[nakedemperor]

Wrong again, follow the money.

It lead to Pennsylvania Avenue.. what's the next clue?

 

[Patriot]

Ah... The irony. A bit paranoid are we?

But, let's just dismiss legitimate science as a massive conspiracy which would require thousands of doctors' cooperation as well as psychiatrists... And virtually every medical school...

I don't suppose you are familiar with the concept of Occam's Razor are you?

You mean the simple answer that doctors like Kinsey where bleeding heart faggots?

 

[Mariner]

some pretty high quality research into actual Americans' sex lives, and discovered some things that were quite shocking at the time but that have been confirmed by many other studies since: that significant percentages of both men and women are gay, that a remarkable number of young heterosexual men have homosexual experiences, that women have active fantasy lives and actually can enjoy sex, that a rather surprising number of people have had sexual contact with farm animals, and that extramarital affairs are amazingly common. All these things helped usher in an era of being able to talk about sex, which the Victorians had consigned to extreme secrecy. Getting angry at Kinsey for reporting these things is like shooting the messenger because you don't like his message.

Mariner.

 

[Patriot]

some pretty high quality research into actual Americans' sex lives, and discovered some things that were quite shocking at the time but that have been confirmed by many other studies since: that significant percentages of both men and women are gay, that a remarkable number of young heterosexual men have homosexual experiences, that women have active fantasy lives and actually can enjoy sex, that a rather surprising number of people have had sexual contact with farm animals, and that extramarital affairs are amazingly common. All these things helped usher in an era of being able to talk about sex, which the Victorians had consigned to extreme secrecy. Getting angry at Kinsey for reporting these things is like shooting the messenger because you don't like his message.

Mariner.

You are joking right? You do understand that most of his test subjects were criminals and pedophiles right? And that most testing he did was illegal. You know the ones with sexual stimulation to children? Or how about the testing where he used himself as a subject? How scientific is that?

Are you really THAT naive? Or like other libs do you used stupidity as an excuse to justify your bizarre belief system? I mean if all the libs in the world said jumping over the brooklyn bridge made you a stronger, healthier, human being and we had scientific experiments to validate our point you would fall for it hook and line?

 

[Mariner]

It's kind of like Freud--filled with errors, but so deeply insightful that society is changed by it, despite itself.

I don't think scientific experiments would demonstrate that jumping off the bridge was healthy.

Mariner.

 

[Patriot]

So according to your logic Hitler, while full of errors, was deeply insightful? I guess we should have just accepted his bullshit? I mean that is what you are saying..That just because it is wrong we as a society needs to accept it as the truth and just run with it....


So question...How does following the wrong advise work for you?

 

[Said1]

So according to your logic Hitler, while full of errors, was deeply insightful? I guess we should have just accepted his bullshit? I mean that is what you are saying..That just because it is wrong we as a society needs to accept it as the truth and just run with it....


So question...How does following the wrong advise work for you?

Good question, although I didn't think you would have a problem with Hitler and the whole Aryan Race "final solution" thing.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

I know this belongs on another thread, but the economy just posted its worst quarter since 2002. The normal job creation rate is around 150K jobs per year, so last month's 112 is low. During Clinton's years we created over 200K per month, which Bush has done only once or twice. Face it, supply side doesn't work. Every single Bush prediction about the economy has turned out to be laughably inaccurate. Time to return from Oz to Kansas, from supply-side fantasyland to economic reality. The Emperor has no clothes.

Pale Rider: I give up--but thanks for explaining your point of view.

Mariner.

Yeah. I guess you're too much of a wussy to put it on the thread was this discussion was actually going on, where i already decimated you.

 

[OCA]

I've come to the conclusion that ol' Mariner is just another old moral relativist without conviction unwilling to take a stand on anything, I mean that is what live and let live and it doesn't hurt anybody else really means.

I guess you can't teach morality, you either are born with it or destined to live on the fence all your life.

 

[007]

I've come to the conclusion that ol' Mariner is just another old moral relativist without conviction unwilling to take a stand on anything, I mean that is what live and let live and it doesn't hurt anybody else really means.

I guess you can't teach morality, you either are born with it or destined to live on the fence all your life.

Hey OCA, I think mariner might be 'ole *mattskrammer* back to give his crap another whirl under another name. He sure sounds like him.

 

[007]

So according to your logic Hitler, while full of errors, was deeply insightful? I guess we should have just accepted his bullshit? I mean that is what you are saying..That just because it is wrong we as a society needs to accept it as the truth and just run with it....


So question...How does following the wrong advise work for you?

You've got this guy nailed to the floor drea. I think we've ALL got this lib nailed to the floor. It's become abundantly evident what kind of radical leftist agenda this flake mariner has.

 

[nakedemperor]

You've got this guy nailed to the floor drea. I think we've ALL got this lib nailed to the floor. It's become abundantly evident what kind of radical leftist agenda this flake mariner has.

First of all, from what I've seen, mariner is not at all a radical; nor is he even that far to the left. And he especially isn't flaky. Even if you don't agree with him, he's been exceedingly polite and very eloquent and prompt in providing responses to several people responding to or critiquing his arguments.

 

[007]

First of all, from what I've seen, mariner is not at all a radical; nor is he even that far to the left. And he especially isn't flaky. Even if you don't agree with him, he's been exceedingly polite and very eloquent and prompt in providing responses to several people responding to or critiquing his arguments.

He's a pacifist naked. A leftist pacifist with an agenda. And you are just his type of listener.

 

[Mariner]

believe me--just look around at the wider culture to see the effects of Kinsey's research. He presaged the sexual revolution of the 60s, ending the Victorian notion that sex didn't actually exist. I'm not saying it that was good or bad, just pointing out that it happened, so that the degree of his influence shouldn't be in question. But do you guys really want to go back to the nice conservative days of ankle-length bathing suits, single-sex colleges, and backroom abortions?

Mariner.

 

[Merlin1047]

But do you guys really want to go back to the nice conservative days of ankle-length bathing suits, single-sex colleges, and backroom abortions?

Mariner.

No, but I'd like to go back to the days when a bathing suit could not be classified as "butt floss". I'd like to go back to the days teenage girls didn't get pregnant nearly as often as they do today. I'd like to go back to the time when it wasn't necessary to have security and metal detectors in our high schools. I'd like to go back to a time when men and women kept their private sex lives private. When men didn't kiss men in public and women didn't kiss women while swapping spit on national television.

I'd like to go back to the day when an honest person was prized and not seen as a sucker. I'd like to go back to a time when a person's word meant something. I'd like to revisit the era when a six year old boy would not have been sent home from school for sexual harrassment because he kissed a girl. I'd like to see a return to a grading standard in our schools and have that standard applied equally to all students - before the NAACP claimed that an exam could be "racist" solely because more blacks were flunking. I'd like, once again, to see students in our high schools forced to measure up to a standard rather than having the "standard" dumbed-down so everyone can feel good about themselves.

I'd like to go back to a time when the Democratic party was a group of people who represented idealism and service to the nation instead of the group of self-serving narcissistic perverts it has turned into.

Color me nostalgic.

 

[Gem]

Mariner,

How much do you REALLY know about Kinsey and his research?

 

[007]

believe me--just look around at the wider culture to see the effects of Kinsey's research. He presaged the sexual revolution of the 60s, ending the Victorian notion that sex didn't actually exist. I'm not saying it that was good or bad, just pointing out that it happened, so that the degree of his influence shouldn't be in question. But do you guys really want to go back to the nice conservative days of ankle-length bathing suits, single-sex colleges, and backroom abortions?

Mariner.

This "kinsey" you keep refering to as the holy grail of sexual revolutionists wasn't anything more than a deviant, sexual quack mariner. He had a zeal for perversion.

Now if you want to talk about the sexual revolution, Hugh Hefner did more for that than any other human being on earth to date.

 

[OCA]

Hey OCA, I think mariner might be 'ole *mattskrammer* back to give his crap another whirl under another name. He sure sounds like him.

Ahhh this hadn't occurred to me but you could be right, i'll do some checking.

 

[nakedemperor]

This "kinsey" you keep refering to as the holy grail of sexual revolutionists wasn't anything more than a deviant, sexual quack mariner. He had a zeal for perversion.

Now if you want to talk about the sexual revolution, Hugh Hefner did more for that than any other human being on earth to date.

I mean, pornography doesn't really have a lot to do with the sexual revolution; to conflate the natural progression of sexuality with the most iconic philanderer and sinner of United States history doesn't really do much justice to women's liberation and sexual advancements of the 20th century.

 

[OCA]

And just what the hell is the natural progression of sexuality anyway? And what the hell does women's rights have to do with any of this?