student escorted out of class for not saying the pledge

[007]

The founders never said the Pledge.

In fact, it was written by a Socialist.

Yes... do your level BEST to make the Pledge of Allegiance sound BAAAAAAAAAAD.... it will make you look SOOOOOOO smart in the eyes of your America hating brothers and sisters... pfft...

Why do ALL you fucking liberal shit stains HATE America and it's traditions so much? WHY?! What is your PROBLEM?!

 

[blu]

student escorted out of class for not saying the pledge

While his display of a lack of respect for flag and his country disgusts me I respect his rights under the 1st Amendment. He was in keeping with current school policy and therefore should have been left alone.

what does the pledge have to do with loving a free country?

 

[Mr Natural]

student escorted out of class for not saying the pledge

While his display of a lack of respect for flag and his country disgusts me I respect his rights under the 1st Amendment. He was in keeping with current school policy and therefore should have been left alone.

what does the pledge have to do with loving a free country?

Not a thing. But conservatives do love their symbolism.

 

[blu]

Does it matter? The child was too young to take an ideological stand, and most likely was coerced into it by the parents (which has been the case in most of these stories). But it seems the law is clear. Not pledging allegiance simply because one is too lazy or hungover is now a constitutional right. Thank the ACLU.

Will profanity in the classroom become "protected speech" in the near future? I'm sure there's lawyers working on it now as we speak.

8th grade is too young to take a political stand??

 

[blu]

Most likely but wouldn't that be a twist if an illegal alien child refused to pledge (while being provided a free and guaranteed public education?

I think the ACLU and the Supreme Court needs to stay out of simple school rule enforcement. If a school in a military town wants their children to stand, they should be able to say so. And if an America hating community wants to give it up completely, so be it. This "students' rights" to "expression" in all its vulgarity has got to stop. Save it for the interwebs haters.

And del, you know as well as I, that we never learn the whole story when children are involved. The school cannot divulge what really went down. In this case they were clearly wrong to get the cops involved, but the "taunting" may have been self inflicted.

are the military towns real america? you betcha!

 

[blu]

Sadly, our president never recites the pledge, nor places a hand over his heart. He clasps his hands in front of his privates, which is becoming known as his "crotch salute."

dumbest post of the thread

 

[trobinett]

Having children stand up and recite a "pledge of allegiance" every school day is ridiculous to begin with. People can decide for themselves where their loyalties lie when they're adults.

Kinda like you right?

You have no problem taking advantage of the freedoms we enjoy, and the opportunities available in this country, just so long as it doesn't interfere with your fucked up agenda.

Ya gotta love the society you envision.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

LOVE the Pledge HATE your GOD!!!

 

[blu]

If people didn't oppose traditions, they'd never change.

Christmas is a tradition....you on the left have successfully set the foundation for it's destruction....I guess this is what you all call change....great job!!!!

the christian part of Christmas is dying. the materialistic part is growing exponentially every year. I personally hope it stays around just to see people get bent out of shape over 'xmas' due to their lack of understanding of the greek alphabet

 

[PatekPhilippe]

student escorted out of class for not saying the pledge

While his display of a lack of respect for flag and his country disgusts me I respect his rights under the 1st Amendment. He was in keeping with current school policy and therefore should have been left alone.

what does the pledge have to do with loving a free country?

what does him refusing to recite it have to do with loving a free country?

Hint: Not a thing but liberals do love their symbolism.

 

[blu]

The founders never said the Pledge.

In fact, it was written by a Socialist.

Yes... do your level BEST to make the Pledge of Allegiance sound BAAAAAAAAAAD.... it will make you look SOOOOOOO smart in the eyes of your America hating brothers and sisters... pfft...

Why do ALL you fucking liberal shit stains HATE America and it's traditions so much? WHY?! What is your PROBLEM?!

take the god part out and many more would say it. we aren't a theocracy no matter how many people living in real america want it to be.

 

[HUGGY]

Respect for freedom of speech? WTF does that mean? Children do not have unlimited speech rights at school. Should they be permitted to say "Fuck the flag? Blow me?"

Soldiers have sacrificed their lives for that symbol. They deserve as much respect as Johnny Stoner.

Yes Ravi it is offensive. When 25 decent kids are standing and one asshole is allowed to sit, it is wrong.Its just another example of rewarding bad behavior. That's far more damaging than making one asshole stand for 30 seconds.I don't care if they say it, just get the hell up.

Ya that's right. Soldiers aren't fighting for the flag. They are directed to fight to preserve our way of life, our democracy and defend the bill of rights and the US Constitution....and yes the feedom to say or not say anything an American wants to.

The flag is just a symbol. If our rights were destroyed the flag would be meaningless.

I grew up on a farm out in the sticks on Orcas Island. We celebrated the Fourth of July with fireworks and rememberance of what that holiday represented. We had no flags at all. Do you think that made my family unamerican? My family was 100% republicans. We worshiped Dwight Eisenhower. I think we had our loyalties in the right place. I myself was "lazy" when it came to reciting the pledge of allegience. I didn't need some robotic pledge to confirm what I held sacred. If you think making someone recite the pledge is going to make them more patriotic then you are a moron and when the bullets start flying you are the last person I want to watch my 6. You will be the first to start licking the boots of whoever is in charge even if it is the enemy. Our country is not the authority our constitution grants. It is clear from that document that the power and the country belongs to us its citizens...not the other way around. The government has to prove it is worthy to govern...ergo...elections. We do not have to prove anything to the government to have our power.

 

[Coyote]

The founders never said the Pledge.

In fact, it was written by a Socialist.

Yes... do your level BEST to make the Pledge of Allegiance sound BAAAAAAAAAAD.... it will make you look SOOOOOOO smart in the eyes of your America hating brothers and sisters... pfft...

Why do ALL you fucking liberal shit stains HATE America and it's traditions so much? WHY?! What is your PROBLEM?!

Change your undies and then calm down. We don't "HATE America". We just don't happen to agree with your "vision" of America.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

The founders never said the Pledge.

In fact, it was written by a Socialist.

Yes... do your level BEST to make the Pledge of Allegiance sound BAAAAAAAAAAD.... it will make you look SOOOOOOO smart in the eyes of your America hating brothers and sisters... pfft...

Why do ALL you fucking liberal shit stains HATE America and it's traditions so much? WHY?! What is your PROBLEM?!

Why do YOU hate the POA in it's ORIGINAL form?

 

[SFC Ollie]

You're right and the school handled it badly. But pledging "allegiance" to ones country, is one of the responsibilities of citizenship. That flag symbolizes one's right to be a lazy asshole. With "rights" come responsibilities. People often forget that part.

LEGAL immigrants get it.

And those lazy assholes will get thrown out of a ballpark or concert venue if they don't stand in an arena in NJ. Schools are supposed to prepare kids for real life.

What you say is very true...however...at this point in time we see the result of years of dumbing down America, years of the destruction of the family unit, years of eroding dicipline in the home by parents who don't care about their kids and the stupid ass liberal shit shown on TV 24/7. Parents sign their kids over to Teletubbie and Barney videos hoping they'll relieve them of their responsibility to raise them...this they call "progress".

It's pathetic yet under our Constitution they have the right to disrespect their country, piss on our flag and what it stands for. The founding fathers would be pleased indeed....

Took the words right out of my mouth.

I'm only 54 years old, and all through my younger years in school we stood and cited the pledge. Funny thing is, I felt PROUD to pledge my allegiance to the flag. That was MY flag, my COUNTRY'S flag, and I saw no reason at all NOT to pledge my allegiance. I think if you feel as though you don't have to say it, or your REFUSE to say it, then people have every right to question just where the hell your allegiance DOES lie. Maybe you'd be more comfortable getting your ass OUT OF AMERICA if you HATE our traditions and PLEDGES so.

I have no use for you people that take such great pleasure in PISSING on America and it's traditions and customs. You are the filth of our land, and I'd just as soon spit in your face as have to look or listen to you.

Every Year we have a little parade through our Village. The local American legion leads this parade carrying the US Flag and the Legion Flag with of course the Color Guard. I have for the past 4 years carried the Legion Flag because we have one member who never makes it to a meeting but always shows up for memorial day and our local parade so that he can carry the American flag. You simply have to admire this man and allow him to carry that flag as long as he is able. We also have a member who walks the 1.5 miles and passes out small American Flags to the people on the street. This man fought at the battle of the bulge. God bless him and hope he can continue to pass out free flags for years to come.

 

[Coyote]

Traditions change and evolve. Eventually "change" becomes "tradition". And it's not always bad. Arguing that tradition should be preserved for the sake of tradition is as foolish as arguing change for the sake of change.

 

[Samson]

Traditions change and evolve. Eventually "change" becomes "tradition". And it's not always bad. Arguing that tradition should be preserved for the sake of tradition is as foolish as arguing change for the sake of change.

Yeah, and I HATE turkey, m'k, so can we get-the-fuck-over having it for Thanksgiving?

 

[RadiomanATL]

Traditions change and evolve. Eventually "change" becomes "tradition". And it's not always bad. Arguing that tradition should be preserved for the sake of tradition is as foolish as arguing change for the sake of change.

Yeah, and I HATE turkey, m'k, so can we get-the-fuck-over having it for Thanksgiving?

We have a grilled pork tenderloin at my house, basted in a teriyaki/pineapple glaze.

Damn thing takes about as long to do right as a turkey.

 

[keee keee]

what pledge the I love Obama pledge, or pledge to support and believe Global Warming?

 

[Coyote]

Traditions change and evolve. Eventually "change" becomes "tradition". And it's not always bad. Arguing that tradition should be preserved for the sake of tradition is as foolish as arguing change for the sake of change.

Yeah, and I HATE turkey, m'k, so can we get-the-fuck-over having it for Thanksgiving?

Sacrilage!

What are you...some sort of American-hating smegpot? Are you against smashed potatos to? And gravy? What is your stand on gravy? Maybe you ought to leave this country - there's countries out there that don't eat turkey you know!