Strait of Hormuz closed again

[eagle1462010]

I guess you are ok with destroying the Gulf economies, their trillionaire sovereign wealth funds, their major airlines.

Yup

 

[Lisa558]

I blame Trump. This deal is idiotic, considering it requires an end to hostilities among two groups that aren’t part of the negotiations or the deal at all.

I blame the Iranian Islamic terrorist regime for building toward a nuke and threatening to vaporize 7 million Jews in one day.

 

[Marener]

I blame the Iranian Islamic terrorist regime for building toward a nuke and threatening to vaporize 7 million Jews in one day.

They weren’t doing that when Obama was president. Yet another thing that Trump screwed up.

He makes everything worse.

 

[Spaniard22]

Yup

the US economy is not an island

 

[Lisa558]

They weren’t doing that when Obama was president. Yet another thing that Trump screwed up.

He makes everything worse.

When Obama was president, they were working toward a nuke. The deal allowed for it.

That’s the problem with electing a pro-Muslim president.

 

[Marener]

When Obama was president, they were working toward a nuke. The deal allowed for it.

That’s the problem with electing a pro-Muslim president.

They weren’t enriching weapons grade uranium because the deal didn’t allow it.

So once Trump ended the deal, there was nothing preventing them from getting highly enriched uranium.

It made everyone less safe.

That’s the problem with electing a stupid president.

 

[toobfreak]

You say OR ELSE. You give them Else.

Two months ago, Trump gave them a 2 week deadline, OR ELSE. Those two weeks came and went, and all Iran really got for the most part was an extended deadline giving them more time "to think it over." Now we are going into July. This is becoming horseshit.

Trump is losing his base if he keeps playing games

This is the first major blunder Trump has committed that I really don't agree with and blame on him. The guy prided himself on no wars and now instead has gotten us into a war with no end.

I will probably never know really exactly WHY Fordrow had to be hit last summer or Iran attacked this Spring, but it would have been better had he had maybe 2-3 other countries on board, gone in there and kicked Iran's ass so hard and so long, they never knew what hit them. Never gave them a chance to come up for air.

It just makes us look stupid and Trump weak. I'm tired of hearing how things work slowly along Iran's timeline. We are in this up to our nipples now, Donald took us into it, now finish the job. Quit being played by these people.

Cripple Iran. Set the terms. Set the deadline. Trump keeps telling everyone how we don't need their oil, so basically, we foot all the bill, we take all the risk, we lose all the soldiers, then in the end, everyone else--- China, Russia, UK, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, people who do not even like us all get safer, cheaper oil and we get shit.

WTF.

I don't want to hear how Trump was Bibi's puppet, what if any influence Israel was, it was Trump who pulled the trigger. Let's get er done.

 

[eagle1462010]

Two months ago, Trump gave them a 2 week deadline, OR ELSE. Those two weeks came and went, and all Iran really got for the most part was an extended deadline giving them more time "to think it over." Now we are going into July. This is becoming horseshit.



This is the first major blunder Trump has committed that I really don't agree with and blame on him. The guy prided himself on no wars and now instead has gotten us into a war with no end.

I will probably never know really exactly WHY Fordrow had to be hit last summer or Iran attacked this Spring, but it would have been better had he had maybe 2-3 other countries on board, gone in there and kicked Iran's ass so hard and so long, they never knew what hit them. Never gave them a chance to come up for air.

It just makes us look stupid and Trump weak. I'm tired of hearing how things work slowly along Iran's timeline. We are in this up to our nipples now, Donald took us into it, now finish the job. Quit being played by these people.

Cripple Iran. Set the terms. Set the deadline. Trump keeps telling everyone how we don't need their oil, so basically, we foot all the bill, we take all the risk, we lose all the soldiers, then in the end, everyone else--- China, Russia, UK, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, people who do not even like us all get safer, cheaper oil and we get shit.

WTF.

I don't want to hear how Trump was Bibi's puppet, what if any influence Israel was, it was Trump who pulled the trigger. Let's get er done.

Well Im tired of this sh.it also.

Time to hitvl them

 

[Lisa558]

They weren’t enriching weapons grade uranium because the deal didn’t allow it.

So once Trump ended the deal, there was nothing preventing them from getting highly enriched uranium.

It made everyone less safe.

That’s the problem with electing a stupid president.

There was inadequate oversight as part of Obama’s plan.

 

[eagle1462010]

the US economy is not an island

Well we can produce a shi.t ton of NG

 

[MisterBeale]

Not true. We elect our liars.

 

[MisterBeale]

Point taken.

IMO, our elections are as meaningful as theirs. Our propaganda just makes us believe otherwise.

 

[Lesh]

Does it matter?

The intention for it is obvious

It matters

 

[Lesh]

When Obama was president, they were working toward a nuke. The deal allowed for it.

That’s the problem with electing a pro-Muslim president.

Nope

 

[Marener]

There was inadequate oversight as part of Obama’s plan.

There were inspectors in their nuclear enrichment sites, carefully monitoring their facilities, centrifuges and stockpiles. We had monitors on their uranium mines. We had checks in the supply chain for centrifuge parts.

As a rabid conservative and given your intense, deep seated and irrational hatred of Obama, there was no way you’d ever be happy with any deal he made.

 

[Lisa558]

There were inspectors in their nuclear enrichment sites, carefully monitoring their facilities, centrifuges and stockpiles. We had monitors on their uranium mines. We had checks in the supply chain for centrifuge parts.

As a rabid conservative and given your intense, deep seated and irrational hatred of Obama, there was no way you’d ever be happy with any deal he made.

Nope. There weren’t anytime, anywhere investigations, and the investigators were from the pro-Muslim, anti-Jew UN.

 

[Zincwarrior]

There were inspectors in their nuclear enrichment sites, carefully monitoring their facilities, centrifuges and stockpiles. We had monitors on their uranium mines. We had checks in the supply chain for centrifuge parts.

As a rabid conservative and given your intense, deep seated and irrational hatred of Obama, there was no way you’d ever be happy with any deal he made.

They were cheating. But there is no agreement now to cheat on.

 

[Lisa558]

There were inspectors in their nuclear enrichment sites, carefully monitoring their facilities, centrifuges and stockpiles. We had monitors on their uranium mines. We had checks in the supply chain for centrifuge parts.

As a rabid conservative and given your intense, deep seated and irrational hatred of Obama, there was no way you’d ever be happy with any deal he made.

I would have been happy if he had brought it to Congress instead of sneaking it up to the antisemitic UN under the guise it was a “deal.”

 

[Marener]

Nope. There weren’t anytime, anywhere investigations, and the investigators were from the pro-Muslim, anti-Jew UN.

You’re never going to get “anytime, anywhere”. That’s idiotic.

You only want to inspect their nuclear sites and that’s exactly what we got.

 

[toobfreak]

I blame the Iranian Islamic terrorist regime for building toward a nuke and threatening to vaporize 7 million Jews in one day.

All it would take is for Iran to build a single nuke the size of Hiroshima, which is a fairly modest atomic bomb these days compared to modern standards.