Straight talk and it's depressing. I will never get married again...

[EvilCat Breath]

You might be the kind of person that forges a satisfying life without marriage. Marriage isn't the brass ring on the merry go round. It's the end of the ride.

I was married for 14 years. It took me forever and a long list of trial and failure before I realized that the concept makes me cringe and run.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

You might be the kind of person that forges a satisfying life without marriage. Marriage isn't the brass ring on the merry go round. It's the end of the ride.

I was married for 14 years. It took me forever and a long list of trial and failure before I realized that the concept makes me cringe and run.

As a man it is not easy today.
Feminism is a very-very destructive force.
Feminism isn't about equality or women's rights - it is about destroying traditional men and women and replacing it with an impossible attempt of equity in all things.
It is to the family structure, what communism is to society as a whole.
I am a traditional man. I could NEVER co-exist with a modern feminist. Oil and water.
She can shove that garbage up her ass.
BUT - match me with a traditional woman and we can (and do) co-exist very well. Happily.
I love Bonzi. She is fucking awesome. Wouldn't trade her for anyone.

 

[occupied]

As a man it is not easy today.
Feminism is a very-very destructive force.
Feminism isn't about equality or women's rights - it is about destroying traditional men and women and replacing it with an impossible attempt of equity in all things.
It is to the family structure, what communism is to society as a whole.
I am a traditional man. I could NEVER co-exist with a modern feminist. Oil and water.
She can shove that garbage up her ass.
BUT - match me with a traditional woman and we can (and do) co-exist very well. Happily.
I love Bonzi. She is fucking awesome. Wouldn't trade her for anyone.

Being a man isn't supposed to be easy or even fun most of the time. It's your job to keep the wolves away from the door.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Being a man isn't supposed to be easy or even fun most of the time. It's your job to keep the wolves away from the door.

Not if a system is designed to harm you. There is a reason Ontarios economy is collapsing. I just hope some.good officers do what is right, I sense my babe in the woods wife is trying to find a way to get me charged after well over a decade of physical, verbal abuse and threats that kept her safe ( "If you call the police, I will tell them. ______...". She doesn't care who she takes down in the process, even potentially herseld f if they saw the evidence which I didnt offer. Oddly they didnt ask for it either...

 

[EvilCat Breath]

As a man it is not easy today.
Feminism is a very-very destructive force.
Feminism isn't about equality or women's rights - it is about destroying traditional men and women and replacing it with an impossible attempt of equity in all things.
It is to the family structure, what communism is to society as a whole.
I am a traditional man. I could NEVER co-exist with a modern feminist. Oil and water.
She can shove that garbage up her ass.
BUT - match me with a traditional woman and we can (and do) co-exist very well. Happily.
I love Bonzi. She is fucking awesome. Wouldn't trade her for anyone.

Very true. It is admirable that you recognized what value you have.

I don't have feminist views. Men should be men. I have a problem with marriage. I didn't even have a bad marriage. I had a fairly decent marriage. I just hated every minute of it. One of my relationships ended when after a long successful dating period we were out to dinner and he proposed. I picked up my purse and left, without a word. I refused his calls and instructed my staff to stop communicating with him. I'm sure he was hurt and confused. I do not marry. I fill out a change of address card.

 

[DGS49]

This was a long time ago, but in my early 20's I became disillusioned with the female gender, and particularly the games that they played. They were emotional bullies, who made up shit to make you feel guilty, then used that guilt to punish you.

I would hear shit like, "You didn't call me on Monday after the wonderful time we had together in Saturday!"

What? Where is that one in the Rule Book? Just one of a thousand examples. You forgot Valentine's Day or our "anniversary" (of our first date), and so on.

Then I happened upon a young lady who was in college but who, for cultural reasons, had never actually been on a date, or in a relationship. She actually didn't know about the "games," so didn't play them. ONE TIME, after we had been married a few years, she made up some bullshit reason to be mad at me. That was the first time she actually saw me get angry. I pointed out what she was doing and told her I simply wouldn't put up with it. If she required some reinforcement of my feelings for her every day - I had to PROVE it to her, over and over again, then it just would not work.

Fiftieth anniversary in a couple of weeks. No further problems (like that).

I can't even imagine trying to establish a relationship with a woman over 30 today. If she gets that old and isn't married yet, she's probably too far gone to have a successful relationship. How about, "If you don't hate Trump, then I can't be with you."

Good riddance.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Very true. It is admirable that you recognized what value you have.

I don't have feminist views. Men should be men. I have a problem with marriage. I didn't even have a bad marriage. I had a fairly decent marriage. I just hated every minute of it. One of my relationships ended when after a long successful dating period we were out to dinner and he proposed. I picked up my purse and left, without a word. I refused his calls and instructed my staff to stop communicating with him. I'm sure he was hurt and confused. I do not marry. I fill out a change of address card.

Wow. You may avoid one problem but create another. To each their own, though I can't see myself marrying again.

 

[SweetSue92]

There's a very particular and pernicious way a bad woman can utterly destroy a man. It's ugly.

The Bible advises older wives to mentor the younger. It's because the natural woman's urge, I think, is to "manage" men. But of course men hate this. It kills love. Being managed is fundamentally disrespectful.

And now, not only do young wives get no mentoring, but our society reinforced the idea that husbands need "managing" everywhere. The Bumbling Dad Archetype.

Anyway--you've been given good advice in this thread. Heal first, then see what happens.

 

[JohnDB]

Not if a system is designed to harm you. There is a reason Ontarios economy is collapsing. I just hope some.good officers do what is right, I sense my babe in the woods wife is trying to find a way to get me charged after well over a decade of physical, verbal abuse and threats that kept her safe ( "If you call the police, I will tell them. ______...". She doesn't care who she takes down in the process, even potentially herseld f if they saw the evidence which I didnt offer. Oddly they didnt ask for it either...

Manipulation is the tool most women use against men to destroy them.

There's a TON of manipulative women out there....they are cheap, dime per dozen people. And for whatever reason you got duped into caring for one. That was your mistake...she wasn't people to begin with....nothing but a narcissistic where. But she convinced you that she was people.

Look,
Guys age like Sean Connery and become more distinguished with age.
Women age like Sean Connery too but no guy wants to date a older woman that looks like Sean Connery.

So....
Have fun and do stuff that you couldn't do when married....have poker nights....play video games. Hang out at the pub watching games with the guys. Lots of stuff you can do when you don't have a wife to answer to. Like woodworking, leathercrafts, or whatever....even volunteering for charitable organizations.

This is an opportunity and not a dead end. Old women look like crap....older guys look distinguished and ARE stable in their careers and they are the prize that the sane women really want. So...do not even think of settling for any woman who doesn't have a solid career requiring a post-secondary education and is a stunner in appearance. This is (in a few years) an opportunity for trade-up in spouses.....she is going to have to find the "leftover" Chad's and Tyrone's that are the jerk guys...who will eventually want nothing to do with her. She will die alone.

Look at a few SSM(strong successful Male) YouTube videos....you will see a new pattern here....just saying.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Wow. You may avoid one problem but create another. To each their own, though I can't see myself marrying again.

You might just be one of those persons while happy in a relationship is happier alone.

It took me many years to learn that truth.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I am an "anti-feminist"... which is to say, I appreciate women as they are naturally and intended to be, not bastardized and manipulated to become a wannabe man.
Women are natural caregivers. Organizers. A good woman makes a home. Her presence is one of calming and caring.
Unaltered by modern bullshit feminism a woman doesn't nag her man. Doesn't seek to control him, but instead gently seeks to improve him. Make him calmer, and less of an asshole. Not through bitching and withholding sex and acting like she is mad all the frigging time... but through encouragement and getting his love for her.
At the same time I expect a man to be a man. Take care of his shit. Fix shit. Be responsible for the wellbeing of his family.. which includes the happiness of his wife. Give a good woman a good man who she knows is there for her, who fixes shit that needs fixed... is protective and responsible, and you will have a woman who loves you and RESPECTS you. If not, you don't deserve her.
If she doesn't respect you - she doesn't deserve you.
It's how it is supposed to be.
Feminism seeks to destroy all of it

 

[shockedcanadian]

Well my wife is trying to push to delay the process while I want a Separation Agreement and the house sold so I can start my new life. I do not want divorce on principle but I am notngetting any younger. I know she wants me to pay, the look she gave me when she left our home...Narcisists.want to live in two worlds,.one behind closed doors and one in publoc, I exposed.her abuses at great personal cost, healthwise and beyond. She will continue to twist the knife while I expect the system to destroy me. At the very least, I want Americans to know the truth if it hapoens. I want out of this country and out of their reach where I wont be a burden to them and vice versa.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Well my wife is trying to push to delay the process while I want a Separation Agreement and the house sold so I can start my new life. I do not want divorce on principle but I am notngetting any younger. I know she wants me to pay, the look she gave me when she left our home...Narcisists.want to live in two worlds,.one behind closed doors and one in publoc, I exposed.her abuses at great personal cost, healthwise and beyond. She will continue to twist the knife while I expect the system to destroy me. At the very least, I want Americans to know the truth if it hapoens. I want out of this country and out of their reach where I wont be a burden to them and vice versa.

If you can manage to turn off all of the white noise of the world, the real world is actually a pretty good place.

 

[mudwhistle]

Its not that simple

Obvious bitches can be avoided

But we are all products of our culture

A that culture is mostly bad

even people with good intention at 20 may change over time, and often do

A marriage that lasts 40 years is rare these days

When I was dating it was hard to find dates once I joined the military, because once I cut my hair off everyone started calling me a baby-killer.

Most of the women at discos were stuck up.
Not all of them were, but most of them.

I went to a couple of country bars and most of the girls were really nice.
Problem is, I can't stand country music.
Every song is the same....they just change the words.

 

[shockedcanadian]

If you can manage to turn off all of the white noise of the world, the real world is actually a pretty good place.

Yes. I just want some peace in life, I harm no one and have tried to be a good, principled man. I used to love the world and trust authority without question, my wife definitely shattered that on top of other issues I had to deal with. I have never met a more manipulative, uncaring person. She has played up her arm 6 months later! From a push to get her off of me! I had been receiving voice messages from her doctors when she was gone also so I knew she was conducting every test possible to try and make herself look like the victim, to find something, ANY thiing to make me appear the abuser, its.insane. Each time they came back negative, so six months later there is an injury to that arm, one she hsd surgery to long ago and which an MRI found no tears after she assaulted me. As I said, this is state run healthcare, in cahoots with certain agencies, if she didnt mess around wth it herself (she has punched her face hard in the past to prevent me.from calling police). There is no doubt in my mind that the police knows what she has done to me for so long, no question. As long as they stay honest with what they know, she is receiving the least possible outcome, one I helped her secure. I desperateky wanted to move on from.this and not have tonsow.evidence at a.trial.as that would really expose her. Meanwhile she has no qualms about trying to destroy me, the victim of years.p of abuse. That look she gave me when she left....

 

[mudwhistle]

Well my wife is trying to push to delay the process while I want a Separation Agreement and the house sold so I can start my new life. I do not want divorce on principle but I am notngetting any younger. I know she wants me to pay, the look she gave me when she left our home...Narcisists.want to live in two worlds,.one behind closed doors and one in publoc, I exposed.her abuses at great personal cost, healthwise and beyond. She will continue to twist the knife while I expect the system to destroy me. At the very least, I want Americans to know the truth if it hapoens. I want out of this country and out of their reach where I wont be a burden to them and vice versa.

Just about every woman feels they have the right to all of the assets gained during a marriage.
But if a woman was too lazy to get up and feed you breakfast before you go to work, she doesn't deserve even half.
My wife made me breakfast every morning at 5:30 am for 43 years.
Now I do all of the cooking because she can't remember how to do it anymore.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Just about every woman feels they have the right to all of the assets gained during a marriage.
But if a woman was too lazy to get up and feed you breakfast before you go to work, she doesn't deserve even half.
My wife made me breakfast every morning at 5:30 am for 43 years.
Now I do all of the cooking because she can't remember how to do it anymore.

Mine believes she deserves to desteoy ones life. To abuse and attack without repercussions and she has been able to do. worse with me, but her ex who was engaged to her also split (and warned me)Her slot addiction and rage arrive at any moment and she was able to get disbi!ity for years based on "general" and consant injuries, pains, issues etc. I lived a fight or flight existence in my own home for over a decade, ow I am the target.

 

[mudwhistle]

Mine believes she deserves to desteoy ones life. To abuse and attack without repercussions and she has been able to do. worse with me, but her ex who was engaged to her also split (and warned me)Her slot addiction and rage arrive at any moment and she was able to get disbi!ity for years based on "general" and consant injuries, pains, issues etc. I lived a fight or flight existence in my own home for over a decade, ow I am the target.

Usually when I find out a woman is dishonest or always trying to cheat in anything, I dumped them like a bad habit.
Most blacks are taught to be dishonest by their parents or their friends. Mostly friends.
My wife may have broken the law at times, but she was out on her own when she was really young, and she had to learn to survive on the street.
But if a woman is a shoplifter, especially when she's an adult.....she's bad news.
My nephew is 1st generation Somali....and every single girl he brought home was self-centered assholes.
Some of them didn't even try to be nice me and my wife.
Like they never learned about manners.
I eventually told my nephew that he might want to look into dating white girls, because all of the blacks were bad news.

 

[mudwhistle]

Being a man isn't supposed to be easy or even fun most of the time. It's your job to keep the wolves away from the door.

Being a man must mean something different to you than it does to me.

I kind of like a woman that helps me keep the wolves at bay.

 

[occupied]

Being a man must mean something different to you than it does to me.

I kind of like a woman that helps me keep the wolves at bay.

I'm sure your idea of a man is somewhat more selfish than mine.