stop comparing C19 with Vietnam deaths

[harmonica]

..it's disrespectful to our Vets
1. the Vietnam deaths were YOUNG, healthy, in their prime, took physicals, did PTraining, ETC!!!!
NO pre-existing problems
..most of the C19 deaths are elderly with pre-existing problems/obesity/etc
DUHHHHHHHH

2. only 2.6 million served in the Vietnam War--half of those did not serve in combat roles and/or in a combat zone
..so you have a 300 million population you are comparing to 1 million

3. many thousands MORE Vets lost their legs/arms/both/etc

4. etc --it's just plain STUPID

Reporter to Trump: Do You ‘Deserve’ Reelection Since More Died from Virus Than in Vietnam?

After some uncertainty about the future of White House Coronavirus Task Force briefings, Monday’s episode went off without a hitch in the Rose Garden and the questions were relatively fair and uncontroversial. That was until New York magazine’s Olivia Nuzzi was granted the final question and...

www.newsbusters.org

And by the time this is over they will be so overshadowed there will be no comparison.

2 million died in the Vietnam war---C19 is only up to 50,000

Where are you getting those figures? Did you pull them outta your ass?

Vietnam War casualties - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

United States armed forces


U.S. Vietnam War deaths

Casualties as of 26 July 2019:

• 58,318 KIA or non-combat deaths (including the missing and deaths in captivity)[68]
• 153,303 WIA (excluding 150,332 persons not requiring hospital care)[69]
• 1,587 MIA (originally 2,646)[70]
• 766–778 POW (652–662 freed/escaped*,[71][72] 114–116 died in captivity)[71][73]

Note: *One escapee died of wounds sustained during his rescue 15 days later.[74]

The total number of American personnel who were KIA or died non-hostile deaths, were enlisted personnel with a casualty number of 50,441. The total number of officer casualties,commissioned and warrant, are 7,877. The following is a chart of all casualties, listed by race, and in descending order. [75]

White	Black	Hispanic	Hawaiian/Pacific Islander	American Indian/ Alaska Native	Non-Hispanic (other race)	Asian
49,830	7,243	349	229	226	204	139

The total number of casualties, both KIA and non-hostile deaths, for drafted and volunteer service personnel (figures are approximated): [76]:

Volunteer	Draftees
70%	30%

During the Vietnam War, 30% of wounded service members died of their wounds.[77] 30–35% of American deaths in the war were non-combat or friendly fire deaths; the largest causes of death in the U.S. armed forces were small arms fire (31.8%), booby traps including mines and frags (27.4%), and aircraft crashes (14.7%).[78]

you are MAJOR Dumb--thank you for proving it

• As many as 2 million civilians on both sides and some 1.1 million North Vietnamese and Viet Cong fighters.

..https://vietnamembassy-pyongyang.org/how-many-vietnamese-died-in-the-vietnam-war/

....the question/issue/subject is, what's more lethal- Vietnam War or C19--comparing Vietnam War vs C19
1.my AIR TIGHT Op explained it
2. it's idiocy to even compare them
3. as others have pointed out, there are other things much more deadly than C19

My Grandpappy taught me an important lesson.................figures never lie, but watch how liars figure. When comparing COVID 19 deaths to Viet Nam, they were counting only the Americans who were military that were killed over there. They weren't including the civilian count like you are trying to.

so, just like you want to do--let's choose which groups to include in the C19 deaths--ok--let's choose Hawaii--since there are not many....so, C19 is not deadly at all, is it???
DUUUUUUHHHH
......you can't compare the Vietnam War deaths with C19 deaths unless you count all Nam deaths
hahahahhWTF!!!!!!!!!!!??????

 

[harmonica]

..it's disrespectful to our Vets
1. the Vietnam deaths were YOUNG, healthy, in their prime, took physicals, did PTraining, ETC!!!!
NO pre-existing problems
..most of the C19 deaths are elderly with pre-existing problems/obesity/etc
DUHHHHHHHH

2. only 2.6 million served in the Vietnam War--half of those did not serve in combat roles and/or in a combat zone
..so you have a 300 million population you are comparing to 1 million

3. many thousands MORE Vets lost their legs/arms/both/etc

4. etc --it's just plain STUPID

Reporter to Trump: Do You ‘Deserve’ Reelection Since More Died from Virus Than in Vietnam?

After some uncertainty about the future of White House Coronavirus Task Force briefings, Monday’s episode went off without a hitch in the Rose Garden and the questions were relatively fair and uncontroversial. That was until New York magazine’s Olivia Nuzzi was granted the final question and...

www.newsbusters.org

..it's disrespectful to our Vets

Oh Horse Shit...Nam Vets haven't been disrespected since at least Sept. 11, 2001, you pompous ass! The comparison points out two separate travesties that killed both civilians and service members that didn't necessarily need to die because an idiot for a President of the period got too deep into the shit pile owing to their incompetence and didn't know how to get their dumb asses out in a timely manner and never paid any attention to the details! The Orange Clown is just as dumb and incompetent, if not even more so, as that idiot Texan, LBJ.

also---the Vets were DRAFTED--a lot were drafted--they did not volunteer
YOU are disrespecting our Vets

Look you stupid bastard, I enlisted in the US Navy and arrived at NTS San Diego July 23, 1964. About 3 weeks later, LBJ signed the Tonkin Gulf Resolution and I became one of the millions of pawns shuffled around during that cockup! I'm one of those millions of people who deployed to that fucking armpit twice for a total of 15 months. So why would I ever wish to willingly disrespect my brothers and sisters in arms? That would be disrespecting myself you bloody fool!

The Vets were drafted? No fucking way you IDIOT. Those men were drafted and then became veterans sometime after their oath was taken, and too fucking many became dead at some point after that. Your ignorance is palpable.

From your displays, rants and repeated stupidity, you obviously wish some type of recognition. Therefore, I bestow upon you the TP award for the Premium Asshole Poster of the week!

wow---but that doesn't refute my OP--hahahhahahhhahhaha
..I served 8 years
..I had a relative die in Vietnam--you just disrespected him and all Vets
..I had 6 uncles and my father serve in WW2 and Korea

..plain and simple, combat/war zones/Vietnam War are more lethal than C19....it's idiotic to compare them.....

....you are very immature/etc by starting the insults......why be so emotional??
I owe you an apology

 

[Daryl Hunt]

No one is comparing COVID-19 deaths to deaths of U.S. servicemen in Vietnam.

They are using the numbers to give some perspective.

Perspective... something that is sorely lacking on this board... as well as many others...

It's meaningless perspective, with political undertones. People equate Vietnam with losing, or fuckups by those in power, or both.

I don't know about you but we militarily won vietnam and had the hearts and the minds of the people. In the last 3 years, the North was completely defeated with only Minor (but deadly) situations. General Abrams made the brag that he could fly anywhere in South Vietnam in a Chopper and not draw one single angry round. Now, what the Politicos did was the failure.

Dodge. how many Vietnams die from flu every year?

No dodge, just not applicable. I am one of the last Vietnam Era Vets alive at age 69 (I turn 70 this year) and we just don't sorry about the flue nearly as much about other things. Like not dying of cancer. I get shots every year for the Flu because a bad case of the Flu CAN be deadly due to severe lung problems. But there are things I do that keeps me from getting a full fledged Flu. With that in mind, if I get infected with Corvid 19 there is almost a 100% chance I am a dead man. I can't speak for others, only myself. You want to know the answer, I doubt there is one available. But, in my case, I will probably die of the Flu one day but not in the near future. But if I am infected with Corvid 19 I will be gone in about a week. I am sure there are a few hundred thousand of others in the same boat of all ages.

You aren't "one of the last"

There are still WWII and Korea vets around. My grandfather is one of them, he is 100.

You have no idea if you are a 100% fatality from COVID, and wouldn't be from the flu or even a cold if you are that sick.

And you know how many of us are left? Are you aware I was in on the last draft? Yes, there were others with draft numbers but most states stopped calling them up astaring in 1971. MOST Vietnam Vets are well into their 70s. And with the various physical and mental problems we received, we are dying at a much higher rate than the civilian counterpart.

I would like to give your Grandfather a salute. But I look at the time line for WWII. My Father was a WWII Vet. He died at age 82 in 2003. He was drafted in 1942 and served in North Africa, The invasion of Sicily, Italy and the Invasion of Southern France. If he were alive today, he would be right around 100 years old as well. These were the Greatest Americans that EVER lived and will probably ever live. And you bringing him up in your BS post, he should slap you across the head.

You claimed you are "one of the last", you are not.

He would call you out on that.

Depends on what you are using for the numbers. He can call me on it all he wants. But all he is doing is trying to use it to win an argument using those of us that served during that time period. There used to be about a hundred million of us and there are one hell of a lot less of us today. You "The Party of the Rump" have no dignity.

100 million US servicemen/women served in Vietnam?

Take you medication. If you don't have any, go see a Doctor and get some. You really are not making any sense.

You said there were 100 million veterans of Vietnam. is that true or not?

Yes, I said it. It may have been a slight exaggeration but not by much. There were over 610,000 that were actually stationed there. But there were a hell of a lot more that served OVER Vietnam that it doesn't count. People like me. And I was only over Vietnam 3 times. The rest of the time I was serving either in Laos or over Laos which wasn't any less dangerous than serving right on the DMZ line. Then there are the guys from Guam, the F-111s and F-105s from Thailand and more. And let's not forget the Wet Service operating from the Carriers flying all sorts of Down Town Missions. You would think that the Hanoi Hilton had mostly US Servicemen in it that were stationed in Vietnam. You would be wrong. Over half of the people were Nickel Pilots and there were a lot of Navy A-7 and A-6 pilots there as well. There were very few Hanoi Hilton Residence that were actually stationed in South Vietnam. So I stand by my 1 million number.

You said 100 million. I bolded the section for your review.

And I backed it up, creampuff.

you backed up 1 million.

You first said 100 million, and then you said you stand by your 1 million.

You are missing two orders of magnitude between the two.

There were 100 million Vietnam Era Veterans. Almost an entire generation of the Males served. Well, except for your hero, bone spur. I have no idea why you are hammering away at this. It's silly. Your Leader Dodged the Draft at least 3 times using his Daddy's money. And you want to tell us Vietnam Era Vets what we should think? Newsflash: Any Vietnam Era Vet that worships the Rump definitely should turn themselves into the top floor of the nearest VA Hospital.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

..it's disrespectful to our Vets
1. the Vietnam deaths were YOUNG, healthy, in their prime, took physicals, did PTraining, ETC!!!!
NO pre-existing problems
..most of the C19 deaths are elderly with pre-existing problems/obesity/etc
DUHHHHHHHH

2. only 2.6 million served in the Vietnam War--half of those did not serve in combat roles and/or in a combat zone
..so you have a 300 million population you are comparing to 1 million

3. many thousands MORE Vets lost their legs/arms/both/etc

4. etc --it's just plain STUPID

Reporter to Trump: Do You ‘Deserve’ Reelection Since More Died from Virus Than in Vietnam?

After some uncertainty about the future of White House Coronavirus Task Force briefings, Monday’s episode went off without a hitch in the Rose Garden and the questions were relatively fair and uncontroversial. That was until New York magazine’s Olivia Nuzzi was granted the final question and...

www.newsbusters.org

And by the time this is over they will be so overshadowed there will be no comparison.

2 million died in the Vietnam war---C19 is only up to 50,000

Where are you getting those figures? Did you pull them outta your ass?

Vietnam War casualties - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

United States armed forces


U.S. Vietnam War deaths

Casualties as of 26 July 2019:

• 58,318 KIA or non-combat deaths (including the missing and deaths in captivity)[68]
• 153,303 WIA (excluding 150,332 persons not requiring hospital care)[69]
• 1,587 MIA (originally 2,646)[70]
• 766–778 POW (652–662 freed/escaped*,[71][72] 114–116 died in captivity)[71][73]

Note: *One escapee died of wounds sustained during his rescue 15 days later.[74]

The total number of American personnel who were KIA or died non-hostile deaths, were enlisted personnel with a casualty number of 50,441. The total number of officer casualties,commissioned and warrant, are 7,877. The following is a chart of all casualties, listed by race, and in descending order. [75]

White	Black	Hispanic	Hawaiian/Pacific Islander	American Indian/ Alaska Native	Non-Hispanic (other race)	Asian
49,830	7,243	349	229	226	204	139

The total number of casualties, both KIA and non-hostile deaths, for drafted and volunteer service personnel (figures are approximated): [76]:

Volunteer	Draftees
70%	30%

During the Vietnam War, 30% of wounded service members died of their wounds.[77] 30–35% of American deaths in the war were non-combat or friendly fire deaths; the largest causes of death in the U.S. armed forces were small arms fire (31.8%), booby traps including mines and frags (27.4%), and aircraft crashes (14.7%).[78]

you are MAJOR Dumb--thank you for proving it

• As many as 2 million civilians on both sides and some 1.1 million North Vietnamese and Viet Cong fighters.

..https://vietnamembassy-pyongyang.org/how-many-vietnamese-died-in-the-vietnam-war/

....the question/issue/subject is, what's more lethal- Vietnam War or C19--comparing Vietnam War vs C19
1.my AIR TIGHT Op explained it
2. it's idiocy to even compare them
3. as others have pointed out, there are other things much more deadly than C19

My Grandpappy taught me an important lesson.................figures never lie, but watch how liars figure. When comparing COVID 19 deaths to Viet Nam, they were counting only the Americans who were military that were killed over there. They weren't including the civilian count like you are trying to.

so, just like you want to do--let's choose which groups to include in the C19 deaths--ok--let's choose Hawaii--since there are not many....so, C19 is not deadly at all, is it???
DUUUUUUHHHH
......you can't compare the Vietnam War deaths with C19 deaths unless you count all Nam deaths
hahahahhWTF!!!!!!!!!!!??????

So you want to play that game. Okay. If you want to include every race and person that died in Vietnam during that time period then you have to include ALL people in the world that have died due to Covid 19 Complication all over the entire Covid 19 battlefield. That Battlefield is world wide. You can't have it just the way that makes your numbers sound good.

Or you can use the numbers of the Americans that died in Vietnam for those 10 years against the last 3 months of the Deaths of Americans from Covid 19.

In the end, Covid 19 will have at least 4 times as many deaths before it's brought to a stop. And that will be in 6 months time. If it's not gotten under control, it's going to rival or exceed the number of Americans that died from WWII at 419K. Covid 19 has already exceeded the death rate for Americans. That makes it more deadly than a World War. The only thing more deadly would be a World Nuclear War when you tally the deaths.

You OP is flawed.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

..it's disrespectful to our Vets
1. the Vietnam deaths were YOUNG, healthy, in their prime, took physicals, did PTraining, ETC!!!!
NO pre-existing problems
..most of the C19 deaths are elderly with pre-existing problems/obesity/etc
DUHHHHHHHH

2. only 2.6 million served in the Vietnam War--half of those did not serve in combat roles and/or in a combat zone
..so you have a 300 million population you are comparing to 1 million

3. many thousands MORE Vets lost their legs/arms/both/etc

4. etc --it's just plain STUPID

Reporter to Trump: Do You ‘Deserve’ Reelection Since More Died from Virus Than in Vietnam?

After some uncertainty about the future of White House Coronavirus Task Force briefings, Monday’s episode went off without a hitch in the Rose Garden and the questions were relatively fair and uncontroversial. That was until New York magazine’s Olivia Nuzzi was granted the final question and...

www.newsbusters.org

..it's disrespectful to our Vets

Oh Horse Shit...Nam Vets haven't been disrespected since at least Sept. 11, 2001, you pompous ass! The comparison points out two separate travesties that killed both civilians and service members that didn't necessarily need to die because an idiot for a President of the period got too deep into the shit pile owing to their incompetence and didn't know how to get their dumb asses out in a timely manner and never paid any attention to the details! The Orange Clown is just as dumb and incompetent, if not even more so, as that idiot Texan, LBJ.

also---the Vets were DRAFTED--a lot were drafted--they did not volunteer
YOU are disrespecting our Vets

Look you stupid bastard, I enlisted in the US Navy and arrived at NTS San Diego July 23, 1964. About 3 weeks later, LBJ signed the Tonkin Gulf Resolution and I became one of the millions of pawns shuffled around during that cockup! I'm one of those millions of people who deployed to that fucking armpit twice for a total of 15 months. So why would I ever wish to willingly disrespect my brothers and sisters in arms? That would be disrespecting myself you bloody fool!

The Vets were drafted? No fucking way you IDIOT. Those men were drafted and then became veterans sometime after their oath was taken, and too fucking many became dead at some point after that. Your ignorance is palpable.

From your displays, rants and repeated stupidity, you obviously wish some type of recognition. Therefore, I bestow upon you the TP award for the Premium Asshole Poster of the week!

wow---but that doesn't refute my OP--hahahhahahhhahhaha
..I served 8 years
..I had a relative die in Vietnam--you just disrespected him and all Vets
..I had 6 uncles and my father serve in WW2 and Korea

..plain and simple, combat/war zones/Vietnam War are more lethal than C19....it's idiotic to compare them.....

....you are very immature/etc by starting the insults......why be so emotional??
I owe you an apology

So you had a relative that served. But you didn't. I notice that most of the ones that don't find it disrepectful served. And we are the only ones that can make that determination. Now, let the Vets have the last say for a change, cupcake.

 

[jc456]

no, some deaths are meaner than others. and what the nam vets went through isn't humane. just know that.

Okay, I can get that. What I took exception was harmonica as he said it was disrespectful to think or say different. He is such a hypocrite because he's always making fun of others and their beliefs and opinions.

It is disrespectful.

 

[jc456]

..it's disrespectful to our Vets
1. the Vietnam deaths were YOUNG, healthy, in their prime, took physicals, did PTraining, ETC!!!!
NO pre-existing problems
..most of the C19 deaths are elderly with pre-existing problems/obesity/etc
DUHHHHHHHH

2. only 2.6 million served in the Vietnam War--half of those did not serve in combat roles and/or in a combat zone
..so you have a 300 million population you are comparing to 1 million

3. many thousands MORE Vets lost their legs/arms/both/etc

4. etc --it's just plain STUPID

Reporter to Trump: Do You ‘Deserve’ Reelection Since More Died from Virus Than in Vietnam?

After some uncertainty about the future of White House Coronavirus Task Force briefings, Monday’s episode went off without a hitch in the Rose Garden and the questions were relatively fair and uncontroversial. That was until New York magazine’s Olivia Nuzzi was granted the final question and...

www.newsbusters.org

And by the time this is over they will be so overshadowed there will be no comparison.

2 million died in the Vietnam war---C19 is only up to 50,000

Where are you getting those figures? Did you pull them outta your ass?

Vietnam War casualties - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

United States armed forces


U.S. Vietnam War deaths

Casualties as of 26 July 2019:

• 58,318 KIA or non-combat deaths (including the missing and deaths in captivity)[68]
• 153,303 WIA (excluding 150,332 persons not requiring hospital care)[69]
• 1,587 MIA (originally 2,646)[70]
• 766–778 POW (652–662 freed/escaped*,[71][72] 114–116 died in captivity)[71][73]

Note: *One escapee died of wounds sustained during his rescue 15 days later.[74]

The total number of American personnel who were KIA or died non-hostile deaths, were enlisted personnel with a casualty number of 50,441. The total number of officer casualties,commissioned and warrant, are 7,877. The following is a chart of all casualties, listed by race, and in descending order. [75]

White	Black	Hispanic	Hawaiian/Pacific Islander	American Indian/ Alaska Native	Non-Hispanic (other race)	Asian
49,830	7,243	349	229	226	204	139

The total number of casualties, both KIA and non-hostile deaths, for drafted and volunteer service personnel (figures are approximated): [76]:

Volunteer	Draftees
70%	30%

During the Vietnam War, 30% of wounded service members died of their wounds.[77] 30–35% of American deaths in the war were non-combat or friendly fire deaths; the largest causes of death in the U.S. armed forces were small arms fire (31.8%), booby traps including mines and frags (27.4%), and aircraft crashes (14.7%).[78]

you are MAJOR Dumb--thank you for proving it

• As many as 2 million civilians on both sides and some 1.1 million North Vietnamese and Viet Cong fighters.

..https://vietnamembassy-pyongyang.org/how-many-vietnamese-died-in-the-vietnam-war/

....the question/issue/subject is, what's more lethal- Vietnam War or C19--comparing Vietnam War vs C19
1.my AIR TIGHT Op explained it
2. it's idiocy to even compare them
3. as others have pointed out, there are other things much more deadly than C19

My Grandpappy taught me an important lesson.................figures never lie, but watch how liars figure. When comparing COVID 19 deaths to Viet Nam, they were counting only the Americans who were military that were killed over there. They weren't including the civilian count like you are trying to.

so, just like you want to do--let's choose which groups to include in the C19 deaths--ok--let's choose Hawaii--since there are not many....so, C19 is not deadly at all, is it???
DUUUUUUHHHH
......you can't compare the Vietnam War deaths with C19 deaths unless you count all Nam deaths
hahahahhWTF!!!!!!!!!!!??????

So you want to play that game. Okay. If you want to include every race and person that died in Vietnam during that time period then you have to include ALL people in the world that have died due to Covid 19 Complication all over the entire Covid 19 battlefield. That Battlefield is world wide. You can't have it just the way that makes your numbers sound good.

Or you can use the numbers of the Americans that died in Vietnam for those 10 years against the last 3 months of the Deaths of Americans from Covid 19.

In the end, Covid 19 will have at least 4 times as many deaths before it's brought to a stop. And that will be in 6 months time. If it's not gotten under control, it's going to rival or exceed the number of Americans that died from WWII at 419K. Covid 19 has already exceeded the death rate for Americans. That makes it more deadly than a World War. The only thing more deadly would be a World Nuclear War when you tally the deaths.

You OP is flawed.

You are truly insane

 

[martybegan]

No one is comparing COVID-19 deaths to deaths of U.S. servicemen in Vietnam.

They are using the numbers to give some perspective.

Perspective... something that is sorely lacking on this board... as well as many others...

It's meaningless perspective, with political undertones. People equate Vietnam with losing, or fuckups by those in power, or both.

I don't know about you but we militarily won vietnam and had the hearts and the minds of the people. In the last 3 years, the North was completely defeated with only Minor (but deadly) situations. General Abrams made the brag that he could fly anywhere in South Vietnam in a Chopper and not draw one single angry round. Now, what the Politicos did was the failure.

Dodge. how many Vietnams die from flu every year?

No dodge, just not applicable. I am one of the last Vietnam Era Vets alive at age 69 (I turn 70 this year) and we just don't sorry about the flue nearly as much about other things. Like not dying of cancer. I get shots every year for the Flu because a bad case of the Flu CAN be deadly due to severe lung problems. But there are things I do that keeps me from getting a full fledged Flu. With that in mind, if I get infected with Corvid 19 there is almost a 100% chance I am a dead man. I can't speak for others, only myself. You want to know the answer, I doubt there is one available. But, in my case, I will probably die of the Flu one day but not in the near future. But if I am infected with Corvid 19 I will be gone in about a week. I am sure there are a few hundred thousand of others in the same boat of all ages.

You aren't "one of the last"

There are still WWII and Korea vets around. My grandfather is one of them, he is 100.

You have no idea if you are a 100% fatality from COVID, and wouldn't be from the flu or even a cold if you are that sick.

And you know how many of us are left? Are you aware I was in on the last draft? Yes, there were others with draft numbers but most states stopped calling them up astaring in 1971. MOST Vietnam Vets are well into their 70s. And with the various physical and mental problems we received, we are dying at a much higher rate than the civilian counterpart.

I would like to give your Grandfather a salute. But I look at the time line for WWII. My Father was a WWII Vet. He died at age 82 in 2003. He was drafted in 1942 and served in North Africa, The invasion of Sicily, Italy and the Invasion of Southern France. If he were alive today, he would be right around 100 years old as well. These were the Greatest Americans that EVER lived and will probably ever live. And you bringing him up in your BS post, he should slap you across the head.

You claimed you are "one of the last", you are not.

He would call you out on that.

Depends on what you are using for the numbers. He can call me on it all he wants. But all he is doing is trying to use it to win an argument using those of us that served during that time period. There used to be about a hundred million of us and there are one hell of a lot less of us today. You "The Party of the Rump" have no dignity.

100 million US servicemen/women served in Vietnam?

Take you medication. If you don't have any, go see a Doctor and get some. You really are not making any sense.

You said there were 100 million veterans of Vietnam. is that true or not?

Yes, I said it. It may have been a slight exaggeration but not by much. There were over 610,000 that were actually stationed there. But there were a hell of a lot more that served OVER Vietnam that it doesn't count. People like me. And I was only over Vietnam 3 times. The rest of the time I was serving either in Laos or over Laos which wasn't any less dangerous than serving right on the DMZ line. Then there are the guys from Guam, the F-111s and F-105s from Thailand and more. And let's not forget the Wet Service operating from the Carriers flying all sorts of Down Town Missions. You would think that the Hanoi Hilton had mostly US Servicemen in it that were stationed in Vietnam. You would be wrong. Over half of the people were Nickel Pilots and there were a lot of Navy A-7 and A-6 pilots there as well. There were very few Hanoi Hilton Residence that were actually stationed in South Vietnam. So I stand by my 1 million number.

You said 100 million. I bolded the section for your review.

And I backed it up, creampuff.

you backed up 1 million.

You first said 100 million, and then you said you stand by your 1 million.

You are missing two orders of magnitude between the two.

There were 100 million Vietnam Era Veterans. Almost an entire generation of the Males served. Well, except for your hero, bone spur. I have no idea why you are hammering away at this. It's silly. Your Leader Dodged the Draft at least 3 times using his Daddy's money. And you want to tell us Vietnam Era Vets what we should think? Newsflash: Any Vietnam Era Vet that worships the Rump definitely should turn themselves into the top floor of the nearest VA Hospital.

Vietnam era now. That's different. My dad was in the Navy during Vietnam, but only Atlantic Fleet, he never considered himself a Vietnam vet.

Why are you choosing this hill to die on? Just admit you made a mistake, and I will drop this.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

No one is comparing COVID-19 deaths to deaths of U.S. servicemen in Vietnam.

They are using the numbers to give some perspective.

Perspective... something that is sorely lacking on this board... as well as many others...

It's meaningless perspective, with political undertones. People equate Vietnam with losing, or fuckups by those in power, or both.

I don't know about you but we militarily won vietnam and had the hearts and the minds of the people. In the last 3 years, the North was completely defeated with only Minor (but deadly) situations. General Abrams made the brag that he could fly anywhere in South Vietnam in a Chopper and not draw one single angry round. Now, what the Politicos did was the failure.

Dodge. how many Vietnams die from flu every year?

No dodge, just not applicable. I am one of the last Vietnam Era Vets alive at age 69 (I turn 70 this year) and we just don't sorry about the flue nearly as much about other things. Like not dying of cancer. I get shots every year for the Flu because a bad case of the Flu CAN be deadly due to severe lung problems. But there are things I do that keeps me from getting a full fledged Flu. With that in mind, if I get infected with Corvid 19 there is almost a 100% chance I am a dead man. I can't speak for others, only myself. You want to know the answer, I doubt there is one available. But, in my case, I will probably die of the Flu one day but not in the near future. But if I am infected with Corvid 19 I will be gone in about a week. I am sure there are a few hundred thousand of others in the same boat of all ages.

You aren't "one of the last"

There are still WWII and Korea vets around. My grandfather is one of them, he is 100.

You have no idea if you are a 100% fatality from COVID, and wouldn't be from the flu or even a cold if you are that sick.

And you know how many of us are left? Are you aware I was in on the last draft? Yes, there were others with draft numbers but most states stopped calling them up astaring in 1971. MOST Vietnam Vets are well into their 70s. And with the various physical and mental problems we received, we are dying at a much higher rate than the civilian counterpart.

I would like to give your Grandfather a salute. But I look at the time line for WWII. My Father was a WWII Vet. He died at age 82 in 2003. He was drafted in 1942 and served in North Africa, The invasion of Sicily, Italy and the Invasion of Southern France. If he were alive today, he would be right around 100 years old as well. These were the Greatest Americans that EVER lived and will probably ever live. And you bringing him up in your BS post, he should slap you across the head.

You claimed you are "one of the last", you are not.

He would call you out on that.

Depends on what you are using for the numbers. He can call me on it all he wants. But all he is doing is trying to use it to win an argument using those of us that served during that time period. There used to be about a hundred million of us and there are one hell of a lot less of us today. You "The Party of the Rump" have no dignity.

100 million US servicemen/women served in Vietnam?

Take you medication. If you don't have any, go see a Doctor and get some. You really are not making any sense.

You said there were 100 million veterans of Vietnam. is that true or not?

Yes, I said it. It may have been a slight exaggeration but not by much. There were over 610,000 that were actually stationed there. But there were a hell of a lot more that served OVER Vietnam that it doesn't count. People like me. And I was only over Vietnam 3 times. The rest of the time I was serving either in Laos or over Laos which wasn't any less dangerous than serving right on the DMZ line. Then there are the guys from Guam, the F-111s and F-105s from Thailand and more. And let's not forget the Wet Service operating from the Carriers flying all sorts of Down Town Missions. You would think that the Hanoi Hilton had mostly US Servicemen in it that were stationed in Vietnam. You would be wrong. Over half of the people were Nickel Pilots and there were a lot of Navy A-7 and A-6 pilots there as well. There were very few Hanoi Hilton Residence that were actually stationed in South Vietnam. So I stand by my 1 million number.

You said 100 million. I bolded the section for your review.

And I backed it up, creampuff.

you backed up 1 million.

You first said 100 million, and then you said you stand by your 1 million.

You are missing two orders of magnitude between the two.

There were 100 million Vietnam Era Veterans. Almost an entire generation of the Males served. Well, except for your hero, bone spur. I have no idea why you are hammering away at this. It's silly. Your Leader Dodged the Draft at least 3 times using his Daddy's money. And you want to tell us Vietnam Era Vets what we should think? Newsflash: Any Vietnam Era Vet that worships the Rump definitely should turn themselves into the top floor of the nearest VA Hospital.

Vietnam era now. That's different. My dad was in the Navy during Vietnam, but only Atlantic Fleet, he never considered himself a Vietnam vet.

Why are you choosing this hill to die on? Just admit you made a mistake, and I will drop this.

Your Dad paid his dues. You paid nothing and are paying nothing today. You are just taking. Your Dad and many others did pay for you to have the right to take but that doesn't make it moral. I will ask one more time. Do you have no Dignity?

 

[jc456]

No one is comparing COVID-19 deaths to deaths of U.S. servicemen in Vietnam.

They are using the numbers to give some perspective.

Perspective... something that is sorely lacking on this board... as well as many others...

It's meaningless perspective, with political undertones. People equate Vietnam with losing, or fuckups by those in power, or both.

I don't know about you but we militarily won vietnam and had the hearts and the minds of the people. In the last 3 years, the North was completely defeated with only Minor (but deadly) situations. General Abrams made the brag that he could fly anywhere in South Vietnam in a Chopper and not draw one single angry round. Now, what the Politicos did was the failure.

Dodge. how many Vietnams die from flu every year?

No dodge, just not applicable. I am one of the last Vietnam Era Vets alive at age 69 (I turn 70 this year) and we just don't sorry about the flue nearly as much about other things. Like not dying of cancer. I get shots every year for the Flu because a bad case of the Flu CAN be deadly due to severe lung problems. But there are things I do that keeps me from getting a full fledged Flu. With that in mind, if I get infected with Corvid 19 there is almost a 100% chance I am a dead man. I can't speak for others, only myself. You want to know the answer, I doubt there is one available. But, in my case, I will probably die of the Flu one day but not in the near future. But if I am infected with Corvid 19 I will be gone in about a week. I am sure there are a few hundred thousand of others in the same boat of all ages.

You aren't "one of the last"

There are still WWII and Korea vets around. My grandfather is one of them, he is 100.

You have no idea if you are a 100% fatality from COVID, and wouldn't be from the flu or even a cold if you are that sick.

And you know how many of us are left? Are you aware I was in on the last draft? Yes, there were others with draft numbers but most states stopped calling them up astaring in 1971. MOST Vietnam Vets are well into their 70s. And with the various physical and mental problems we received, we are dying at a much higher rate than the civilian counterpart.

I would like to give your Grandfather a salute. But I look at the time line for WWII. My Father was a WWII Vet. He died at age 82 in 2003. He was drafted in 1942 and served in North Africa, The invasion of Sicily, Italy and the Invasion of Southern France. If he were alive today, he would be right around 100 years old as well. These were the Greatest Americans that EVER lived and will probably ever live. And you bringing him up in your BS post, he should slap you across the head.

You claimed you are "one of the last", you are not.

He would call you out on that.

Depends on what you are using for the numbers. He can call me on it all he wants. But all he is doing is trying to use it to win an argument using those of us that served during that time period. There used to be about a hundred million of us and there are one hell of a lot less of us today. You "The Party of the Rump" have no dignity.

100 million US servicemen/women served in Vietnam?

Take you medication. If you don't have any, go see a Doctor and get some. You really are not making any sense.

You said there were 100 million veterans of Vietnam. is that true or not?

Yes, I said it. It may have been a slight exaggeration but not by much. There were over 610,000 that were actually stationed there. But there were a hell of a lot more that served OVER Vietnam that it doesn't count. People like me. And I was only over Vietnam 3 times. The rest of the time I was serving either in Laos or over Laos which wasn't any less dangerous than serving right on the DMZ line. Then there are the guys from Guam, the F-111s and F-105s from Thailand and more. And let's not forget the Wet Service operating from the Carriers flying all sorts of Down Town Missions. You would think that the Hanoi Hilton had mostly US Servicemen in it that were stationed in Vietnam. You would be wrong. Over half of the people were Nickel Pilots and there were a lot of Navy A-7 and A-6 pilots there as well. There were very few Hanoi Hilton Residence that were actually stationed in South Vietnam. So I stand by my 1 million number.

You said 100 million. I bolded the section for your review.

And I backed it up, creampuff.

you backed up 1 million.

You first said 100 million, and then you said you stand by your 1 million.

You are missing two orders of magnitude between the two.

There were 100 million Vietnam Era Veterans. Almost an entire generation of the Males served. Well, except for your hero, bone spur. I have no idea why you are hammering away at this. It's silly. Your Leader Dodged the Draft at least 3 times using his Daddy's money. And you want to tell us Vietnam Era Vets what we should think? Newsflash: Any Vietnam Era Vet that worships the Rump definitely should turn themselves into the top floor of the nearest VA Hospital.

Vietnam era now. That's different. My dad was in the Navy during Vietnam, but only Atlantic Fleet, he never considered himself a Vietnam vet.

Why are you choosing this hill to die on? Just admit you made a mistake, and I will drop this.

Your Dad paid his dues. You paid nothing and are paying nothing today. You are just taking. Your Dad and many others did pay for you to have the right to take but that doesn't make it moral. I will ask one more time. Do you have no Dignity?

yep, his dad did. doesn't give you a right to stomp on his dad's experience. He has every right, his father fought for him to have it.

You all still don't understand America.

 

[martybegan]

No one is comparing COVID-19 deaths to deaths of U.S. servicemen in Vietnam.

They are using the numbers to give some perspective.

Perspective... something that is sorely lacking on this board... as well as many others...

It's meaningless perspective, with political undertones. People equate Vietnam with losing, or fuckups by those in power, or both.

I don't know about you but we militarily won vietnam and had the hearts and the minds of the people. In the last 3 years, the North was completely defeated with only Minor (but deadly) situations. General Abrams made the brag that he could fly anywhere in South Vietnam in a Chopper and not draw one single angry round. Now, what the Politicos did was the failure.

Dodge. how many Vietnams die from flu every year?

No dodge, just not applicable. I am one of the last Vietnam Era Vets alive at age 69 (I turn 70 this year) and we just don't sorry about the flue nearly as much about other things. Like not dying of cancer. I get shots every year for the Flu because a bad case of the Flu CAN be deadly due to severe lung problems. But there are things I do that keeps me from getting a full fledged Flu. With that in mind, if I get infected with Corvid 19 there is almost a 100% chance I am a dead man. I can't speak for others, only myself. You want to know the answer, I doubt there is one available. But, in my case, I will probably die of the Flu one day but not in the near future. But if I am infected with Corvid 19 I will be gone in about a week. I am sure there are a few hundred thousand of others in the same boat of all ages.

You aren't "one of the last"

There are still WWII and Korea vets around. My grandfather is one of them, he is 100.

You have no idea if you are a 100% fatality from COVID, and wouldn't be from the flu or even a cold if you are that sick.

And you know how many of us are left? Are you aware I was in on the last draft? Yes, there were others with draft numbers but most states stopped calling them up astaring in 1971. MOST Vietnam Vets are well into their 70s. And with the various physical and mental problems we received, we are dying at a much higher rate than the civilian counterpart.

I would like to give your Grandfather a salute. But I look at the time line for WWII. My Father was a WWII Vet. He died at age 82 in 2003. He was drafted in 1942 and served in North Africa, The invasion of Sicily, Italy and the Invasion of Southern France. If he were alive today, he would be right around 100 years old as well. These were the Greatest Americans that EVER lived and will probably ever live. And you bringing him up in your BS post, he should slap you across the head.

You claimed you are "one of the last", you are not.

He would call you out on that.

Depends on what you are using for the numbers. He can call me on it all he wants. But all he is doing is trying to use it to win an argument using those of us that served during that time period. There used to be about a hundred million of us and there are one hell of a lot less of us today. You "The Party of the Rump" have no dignity.

100 million US servicemen/women served in Vietnam?

Take you medication. If you don't have any, go see a Doctor and get some. You really are not making any sense.

You said there were 100 million veterans of Vietnam. is that true or not?

Yes, I said it. It may have been a slight exaggeration but not by much. There were over 610,000 that were actually stationed there. But there were a hell of a lot more that served OVER Vietnam that it doesn't count. People like me. And I was only over Vietnam 3 times. The rest of the time I was serving either in Laos or over Laos which wasn't any less dangerous than serving right on the DMZ line. Then there are the guys from Guam, the F-111s and F-105s from Thailand and more. And let's not forget the Wet Service operating from the Carriers flying all sorts of Down Town Missions. You would think that the Hanoi Hilton had mostly US Servicemen in it that were stationed in Vietnam. You would be wrong. Over half of the people were Nickel Pilots and there were a lot of Navy A-7 and A-6 pilots there as well. There were very few Hanoi Hilton Residence that were actually stationed in South Vietnam. So I stand by my 1 million number.

You said 100 million. I bolded the section for your review.

And I backed it up, creampuff.

you backed up 1 million.

You first said 100 million, and then you said you stand by your 1 million.

You are missing two orders of magnitude between the two.

There were 100 million Vietnam Era Veterans. Almost an entire generation of the Males served. Well, except for your hero, bone spur. I have no idea why you are hammering away at this. It's silly. Your Leader Dodged the Draft at least 3 times using his Daddy's money. And you want to tell us Vietnam Era Vets what we should think? Newsflash: Any Vietnam Era Vet that worships the Rump definitely should turn themselves into the top floor of the nearest VA Hospital.

Vietnam era now. That's different. My dad was in the Navy during Vietnam, but only Atlantic Fleet, he never considered himself a Vietnam vet.

Why are you choosing this hill to die on? Just admit you made a mistake, and I will drop this.

Your Dad paid his dues. You paid nothing and are paying nothing today. You are just taking. Your Dad and many others did pay for you to have the right to take but that doesn't make it moral. I will ask one more time. Do you have no Dignity?

Now you are just dodging, and my right to question you comes from me being an American Citizen, regardless of my service status.

Again, why are you not just admitting you fucked up with the 100 million?

 

[martybegan]

No one is comparing COVID-19 deaths to deaths of U.S. servicemen in Vietnam.

They are using the numbers to give some perspective.

Perspective... something that is sorely lacking on this board... as well as many others...

It's meaningless perspective, with political undertones. People equate Vietnam with losing, or fuckups by those in power, or both.

I don't know about you but we militarily won vietnam and had the hearts and the minds of the people. In the last 3 years, the North was completely defeated with only Minor (but deadly) situations. General Abrams made the brag that he could fly anywhere in South Vietnam in a Chopper and not draw one single angry round. Now, what the Politicos did was the failure.

Dodge. how many Vietnams die from flu every year?

No dodge, just not applicable. I am one of the last Vietnam Era Vets alive at age 69 (I turn 70 this year) and we just don't sorry about the flue nearly as much about other things. Like not dying of cancer. I get shots every year for the Flu because a bad case of the Flu CAN be deadly due to severe lung problems. But there are things I do that keeps me from getting a full fledged Flu. With that in mind, if I get infected with Corvid 19 there is almost a 100% chance I am a dead man. I can't speak for others, only myself. You want to know the answer, I doubt there is one available. But, in my case, I will probably die of the Flu one day but not in the near future. But if I am infected with Corvid 19 I will be gone in about a week. I am sure there are a few hundred thousand of others in the same boat of all ages.

You aren't "one of the last"

There are still WWII and Korea vets around. My grandfather is one of them, he is 100.

You have no idea if you are a 100% fatality from COVID, and wouldn't be from the flu or even a cold if you are that sick.

And you know how many of us are left? Are you aware I was in on the last draft? Yes, there were others with draft numbers but most states stopped calling them up astaring in 1971. MOST Vietnam Vets are well into their 70s. And with the various physical and mental problems we received, we are dying at a much higher rate than the civilian counterpart.

I would like to give your Grandfather a salute. But I look at the time line for WWII. My Father was a WWII Vet. He died at age 82 in 2003. He was drafted in 1942 and served in North Africa, The invasion of Sicily, Italy and the Invasion of Southern France. If he were alive today, he would be right around 100 years old as well. These were the Greatest Americans that EVER lived and will probably ever live. And you bringing him up in your BS post, he should slap you across the head.

You claimed you are "one of the last", you are not.

He would call you out on that.

Depends on what you are using for the numbers. He can call me on it all he wants. But all he is doing is trying to use it to win an argument using those of us that served during that time period. There used to be about a hundred million of us and there are one hell of a lot less of us today. You "The Party of the Rump" have no dignity.

100 million US servicemen/women served in Vietnam?

Take you medication. If you don't have any, go see a Doctor and get some. You really are not making any sense.

You said there were 100 million veterans of Vietnam. is that true or not?

Yes, I said it. It may have been a slight exaggeration but not by much. There were over 610,000 that were actually stationed there. But there were a hell of a lot more that served OVER Vietnam that it doesn't count. People like me. And I was only over Vietnam 3 times. The rest of the time I was serving either in Laos or over Laos which wasn't any less dangerous than serving right on the DMZ line. Then there are the guys from Guam, the F-111s and F-105s from Thailand and more. And let's not forget the Wet Service operating from the Carriers flying all sorts of Down Town Missions. You would think that the Hanoi Hilton had mostly US Servicemen in it that were stationed in Vietnam. You would be wrong. Over half of the people were Nickel Pilots and there were a lot of Navy A-7 and A-6 pilots there as well. There were very few Hanoi Hilton Residence that were actually stationed in South Vietnam. So I stand by my 1 million number.

You said 100 million. I bolded the section for your review.

And I backed it up, creampuff.

you backed up 1 million.

You first said 100 million, and then you said you stand by your 1 million.

You are missing two orders of magnitude between the two.

There were 100 million Vietnam Era Veterans. Almost an entire generation of the Males served. Well, except for your hero, bone spur. I have no idea why you are hammering away at this. It's silly. Your Leader Dodged the Draft at least 3 times using his Daddy's money. And you want to tell us Vietnam Era Vets what we should think? Newsflash: Any Vietnam Era Vet that worships the Rump definitely should turn themselves into the top floor of the nearest VA Hospital.

Vietnam era now. That's different. My dad was in the Navy during Vietnam, but only Atlantic Fleet, he never considered himself a Vietnam vet.

Why are you choosing this hill to die on? Just admit you made a mistake, and I will drop this.

Your Dad paid his dues. You paid nothing and are paying nothing today. You are just taking. Your Dad and many others did pay for you to have the right to take but that doesn't make it moral. I will ask one more time. Do you have no Dignity?

yep, his dad did. doesn't give you a right to stomp on his dad's experience. He has every right, his father fought for him to have it.

You all still don't understand America.

The worst part is I don't want to keep doing this, all he has to do is fess up and admit the 100 million number was a mistake.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

No one is comparing COVID-19 deaths to deaths of U.S. servicemen in Vietnam.

They are using the numbers to give some perspective.

Perspective... something that is sorely lacking on this board... as well as many others...

It's meaningless perspective, with political undertones. People equate Vietnam with losing, or fuckups by those in power, or both.

I don't know about you but we militarily won vietnam and had the hearts and the minds of the people. In the last 3 years, the North was completely defeated with only Minor (but deadly) situations. General Abrams made the brag that he could fly anywhere in South Vietnam in a Chopper and not draw one single angry round. Now, what the Politicos did was the failure.

Dodge. how many Vietnams die from flu every year?

No dodge, just not applicable. I am one of the last Vietnam Era Vets alive at age 69 (I turn 70 this year) and we just don't sorry about the flue nearly as much about other things. Like not dying of cancer. I get shots every year for the Flu because a bad case of the Flu CAN be deadly due to severe lung problems. But there are things I do that keeps me from getting a full fledged Flu. With that in mind, if I get infected with Corvid 19 there is almost a 100% chance I am a dead man. I can't speak for others, only myself. You want to know the answer, I doubt there is one available. But, in my case, I will probably die of the Flu one day but not in the near future. But if I am infected with Corvid 19 I will be gone in about a week. I am sure there are a few hundred thousand of others in the same boat of all ages.

You aren't "one of the last"

There are still WWII and Korea vets around. My grandfather is one of them, he is 100.

You have no idea if you are a 100% fatality from COVID, and wouldn't be from the flu or even a cold if you are that sick.

And you know how many of us are left? Are you aware I was in on the last draft? Yes, there were others with draft numbers but most states stopped calling them up astaring in 1971. MOST Vietnam Vets are well into their 70s. And with the various physical and mental problems we received, we are dying at a much higher rate than the civilian counterpart.

I would like to give your Grandfather a salute. But I look at the time line for WWII. My Father was a WWII Vet. He died at age 82 in 2003. He was drafted in 1942 and served in North Africa, The invasion of Sicily, Italy and the Invasion of Southern France. If he were alive today, he would be right around 100 years old as well. These were the Greatest Americans that EVER lived and will probably ever live. And you bringing him up in your BS post, he should slap you across the head.

You claimed you are "one of the last", you are not.

He would call you out on that.

Depends on what you are using for the numbers. He can call me on it all he wants. But all he is doing is trying to use it to win an argument using those of us that served during that time period. There used to be about a hundred million of us and there are one hell of a lot less of us today. You "The Party of the Rump" have no dignity.

100 million US servicemen/women served in Vietnam?

Take you medication. If you don't have any, go see a Doctor and get some. You really are not making any sense.

You said there were 100 million veterans of Vietnam. is that true or not?

Yes, I said it. It may have been a slight exaggeration but not by much. There were over 610,000 that were actually stationed there. But there were a hell of a lot more that served OVER Vietnam that it doesn't count. People like me. And I was only over Vietnam 3 times. The rest of the time I was serving either in Laos or over Laos which wasn't any less dangerous than serving right on the DMZ line. Then there are the guys from Guam, the F-111s and F-105s from Thailand and more. And let's not forget the Wet Service operating from the Carriers flying all sorts of Down Town Missions. You would think that the Hanoi Hilton had mostly US Servicemen in it that were stationed in Vietnam. You would be wrong. Over half of the people were Nickel Pilots and there were a lot of Navy A-7 and A-6 pilots there as well. There were very few Hanoi Hilton Residence that were actually stationed in South Vietnam. So I stand by my 1 million number.

You said 100 million. I bolded the section for your review.

And I backed it up, creampuff.

you backed up 1 million.

You first said 100 million, and then you said you stand by your 1 million.

You are missing two orders of magnitude between the two.

There were 100 million Vietnam Era Veterans. Almost an entire generation of the Males served. Well, except for your hero, bone spur. I have no idea why you are hammering away at this. It's silly. Your Leader Dodged the Draft at least 3 times using his Daddy's money. And you want to tell us Vietnam Era Vets what we should think? Newsflash: Any Vietnam Era Vet that worships the Rump definitely should turn themselves into the top floor of the nearest VA Hospital.

Vietnam era now. That's different. My dad was in the Navy during Vietnam, but only Atlantic Fleet, he never considered himself a Vietnam vet.

Why are you choosing this hill to die on? Just admit you made a mistake, and I will drop this.

Your Dad paid his dues. You paid nothing and are paying nothing today. You are just taking. Your Dad and many others did pay for you to have the right to take but that doesn't make it moral. I will ask one more time. Do you have no Dignity?

yep, his dad did. doesn't give you a right to stomp on his dad's experience. He has every right, his father fought for him to have it.

You all still don't understand America.

The worst part is I don't want to keep doing this, all he has to do is fess up and admit the 100 million number was a mistake.

LOL, I don't have to do a thing except call you on your BS. Your Father paid the dues, you didn't. The Vietnam Vets don't have a problem with the comparison but you freeloaders try and use it to your advantage. And that should be a crime. But it isn't because WE paid the price to allow YOU to do it. Shame we didn't know about you at the time. We may have excluded that.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

No one is comparing COVID-19 deaths to deaths of U.S. servicemen in Vietnam.

They are using the numbers to give some perspective.

Perspective... something that is sorely lacking on this board... as well as many others...

It's meaningless perspective, with political undertones. People equate Vietnam with losing, or fuckups by those in power, or both.

I don't know about you but we militarily won vietnam and had the hearts and the minds of the people. In the last 3 years, the North was completely defeated with only Minor (but deadly) situations. General Abrams made the brag that he could fly anywhere in South Vietnam in a Chopper and not draw one single angry round. Now, what the Politicos did was the failure.

Dodge. how many Vietnams die from flu every year?

No dodge, just not applicable. I am one of the last Vietnam Era Vets alive at age 69 (I turn 70 this year) and we just don't sorry about the flue nearly as much about other things. Like not dying of cancer. I get shots every year for the Flu because a bad case of the Flu CAN be deadly due to severe lung problems. But there are things I do that keeps me from getting a full fledged Flu. With that in mind, if I get infected with Corvid 19 there is almost a 100% chance I am a dead man. I can't speak for others, only myself. You want to know the answer, I doubt there is one available. But, in my case, I will probably die of the Flu one day but not in the near future. But if I am infected with Corvid 19 I will be gone in about a week. I am sure there are a few hundred thousand of others in the same boat of all ages.

You aren't "one of the last"

There are still WWII and Korea vets around. My grandfather is one of them, he is 100.

You have no idea if you are a 100% fatality from COVID, and wouldn't be from the flu or even a cold if you are that sick.

And you know how many of us are left? Are you aware I was in on the last draft? Yes, there were others with draft numbers but most states stopped calling them up astaring in 1971. MOST Vietnam Vets are well into their 70s. And with the various physical and mental problems we received, we are dying at a much higher rate than the civilian counterpart.

I would like to give your Grandfather a salute. But I look at the time line for WWII. My Father was a WWII Vet. He died at age 82 in 2003. He was drafted in 1942 and served in North Africa, The invasion of Sicily, Italy and the Invasion of Southern France. If he were alive today, he would be right around 100 years old as well. These were the Greatest Americans that EVER lived and will probably ever live. And you bringing him up in your BS post, he should slap you across the head.

You claimed you are "one of the last", you are not.

He would call you out on that.

Depends on what you are using for the numbers. He can call me on it all he wants. But all he is doing is trying to use it to win an argument using those of us that served during that time period. There used to be about a hundred million of us and there are one hell of a lot less of us today. You "The Party of the Rump" have no dignity.

100 million US servicemen/women served in Vietnam?

Take you medication. If you don't have any, go see a Doctor and get some. You really are not making any sense.

You said there were 100 million veterans of Vietnam. is that true or not?

Yes, I said it. It may have been a slight exaggeration but not by much. There were over 610,000 that were actually stationed there. But there were a hell of a lot more that served OVER Vietnam that it doesn't count. People like me. And I was only over Vietnam 3 times. The rest of the time I was serving either in Laos or over Laos which wasn't any less dangerous than serving right on the DMZ line. Then there are the guys from Guam, the F-111s and F-105s from Thailand and more. And let's not forget the Wet Service operating from the Carriers flying all sorts of Down Town Missions. You would think that the Hanoi Hilton had mostly US Servicemen in it that were stationed in Vietnam. You would be wrong. Over half of the people were Nickel Pilots and there were a lot of Navy A-7 and A-6 pilots there as well. There were very few Hanoi Hilton Residence that were actually stationed in South Vietnam. So I stand by my 1 million number.

You said 100 million. I bolded the section for your review.

And I backed it up, creampuff.

you backed up 1 million.

You first said 100 million, and then you said you stand by your 1 million.

You are missing two orders of magnitude between the two.

There were 100 million Vietnam Era Veterans. Almost an entire generation of the Males served. Well, except for your hero, bone spur. I have no idea why you are hammering away at this. It's silly. Your Leader Dodged the Draft at least 3 times using his Daddy's money. And you want to tell us Vietnam Era Vets what we should think? Newsflash: Any Vietnam Era Vet that worships the Rump definitely should turn themselves into the top floor of the nearest VA Hospital.

Vietnam era now. That's different. My dad was in the Navy during Vietnam, but only Atlantic Fleet, he never considered himself a Vietnam vet.

Why are you choosing this hill to die on? Just admit you made a mistake, and I will drop this.

Your Dad paid his dues. You paid nothing and are paying nothing today. You are just taking. Your Dad and many others did pay for you to have the right to take but that doesn't make it moral. I will ask one more time. Do you have no Dignity?

Now you are just dodging, and my right to question you comes from me being an American Citizen, regardless of my service status.

Again, why are you not just admitting you fucked up with the 100 million?

You have no blood in the Vietnam equation. You are just a nothing. And your nothingburger proves it. You need to go back to capturing flies and pulling the wings off for fun. At least you would be more exiting.

 

[martybegan]

No one is comparing COVID-19 deaths to deaths of U.S. servicemen in Vietnam.

They are using the numbers to give some perspective.

Perspective... something that is sorely lacking on this board... as well as many others...

It's meaningless perspective, with political undertones. People equate Vietnam with losing, or fuckups by those in power, or both.

I don't know about you but we militarily won vietnam and had the hearts and the minds of the people. In the last 3 years, the North was completely defeated with only Minor (but deadly) situations. General Abrams made the brag that he could fly anywhere in South Vietnam in a Chopper and not draw one single angry round. Now, what the Politicos did was the failure.

Dodge. how many Vietnams die from flu every year?

No dodge, just not applicable. I am one of the last Vietnam Era Vets alive at age 69 (I turn 70 this year) and we just don't sorry about the flue nearly as much about other things. Like not dying of cancer. I get shots every year for the Flu because a bad case of the Flu CAN be deadly due to severe lung problems. But there are things I do that keeps me from getting a full fledged Flu. With that in mind, if I get infected with Corvid 19 there is almost a 100% chance I am a dead man. I can't speak for others, only myself. You want to know the answer, I doubt there is one available. But, in my case, I will probably die of the Flu one day but not in the near future. But if I am infected with Corvid 19 I will be gone in about a week. I am sure there are a few hundred thousand of others in the same boat of all ages.

You aren't "one of the last"

There are still WWII and Korea vets around. My grandfather is one of them, he is 100.

You have no idea if you are a 100% fatality from COVID, and wouldn't be from the flu or even a cold if you are that sick.

And you know how many of us are left? Are you aware I was in on the last draft? Yes, there were others with draft numbers but most states stopped calling them up astaring in 1971. MOST Vietnam Vets are well into their 70s. And with the various physical and mental problems we received, we are dying at a much higher rate than the civilian counterpart.

I would like to give your Grandfather a salute. But I look at the time line for WWII. My Father was a WWII Vet. He died at age 82 in 2003. He was drafted in 1942 and served in North Africa, The invasion of Sicily, Italy and the Invasion of Southern France. If he were alive today, he would be right around 100 years old as well. These were the Greatest Americans that EVER lived and will probably ever live. And you bringing him up in your BS post, he should slap you across the head.

You claimed you are "one of the last", you are not.

He would call you out on that.

Depends on what you are using for the numbers. He can call me on it all he wants. But all he is doing is trying to use it to win an argument using those of us that served during that time period. There used to be about a hundred million of us and there are one hell of a lot less of us today. You "The Party of the Rump" have no dignity.

100 million US servicemen/women served in Vietnam?

Take you medication. If you don't have any, go see a Doctor and get some. You really are not making any sense.

You said there were 100 million veterans of Vietnam. is that true or not?

Yes, I said it. It may have been a slight exaggeration but not by much. There were over 610,000 that were actually stationed there. But there were a hell of a lot more that served OVER Vietnam that it doesn't count. People like me. And I was only over Vietnam 3 times. The rest of the time I was serving either in Laos or over Laos which wasn't any less dangerous than serving right on the DMZ line. Then there are the guys from Guam, the F-111s and F-105s from Thailand and more. And let's not forget the Wet Service operating from the Carriers flying all sorts of Down Town Missions. You would think that the Hanoi Hilton had mostly US Servicemen in it that were stationed in Vietnam. You would be wrong. Over half of the people were Nickel Pilots and there were a lot of Navy A-7 and A-6 pilots there as well. There were very few Hanoi Hilton Residence that were actually stationed in South Vietnam. So I stand by my 1 million number.

You said 100 million. I bolded the section for your review.

And I backed it up, creampuff.

you backed up 1 million.

You first said 100 million, and then you said you stand by your 1 million.

You are missing two orders of magnitude between the two.

There were 100 million Vietnam Era Veterans. Almost an entire generation of the Males served. Well, except for your hero, bone spur. I have no idea why you are hammering away at this. It's silly. Your Leader Dodged the Draft at least 3 times using his Daddy's money. And you want to tell us Vietnam Era Vets what we should think? Newsflash: Any Vietnam Era Vet that worships the Rump definitely should turn themselves into the top floor of the nearest VA Hospital.

Vietnam era now. That's different. My dad was in the Navy during Vietnam, but only Atlantic Fleet, he never considered himself a Vietnam vet.

Why are you choosing this hill to die on? Just admit you made a mistake, and I will drop this.

Your Dad paid his dues. You paid nothing and are paying nothing today. You are just taking. Your Dad and many others did pay for you to have the right to take but that doesn't make it moral. I will ask one more time. Do you have no Dignity?

Now you are just dodging, and my right to question you comes from me being an American Citizen, regardless of my service status.

Again, why are you not just admitting you fucked up with the 100 million?

You have no blood in the Vietnam equation. You are just a nothing. And your nothingburger proves it. You need to go back to capturing flies and pulling the wings off for fun. At least you would be more exiting.

Dude, you said 100 million, then backed up 1 million. It isn't about the actual conflict,it's about math and the truth.

Stop trying to dodge and admit you fucked up the first number.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

No one is comparing COVID-19 deaths to deaths of U.S. servicemen in Vietnam.

They are using the numbers to give some perspective.

Perspective... something that is sorely lacking on this board... as well as many others...

It's meaningless perspective, with political undertones. People equate Vietnam with losing, or fuckups by those in power, or both.

I don't know about you but we militarily won vietnam and had the hearts and the minds of the people. In the last 3 years, the North was completely defeated with only Minor (but deadly) situations. General Abrams made the brag that he could fly anywhere in South Vietnam in a Chopper and not draw one single angry round. Now, what the Politicos did was the failure.

Dodge. how many Vietnams die from flu every year?

No dodge, just not applicable. I am one of the last Vietnam Era Vets alive at age 69 (I turn 70 this year) and we just don't sorry about the flue nearly as much about other things. Like not dying of cancer. I get shots every year for the Flu because a bad case of the Flu CAN be deadly due to severe lung problems. But there are things I do that keeps me from getting a full fledged Flu. With that in mind, if I get infected with Corvid 19 there is almost a 100% chance I am a dead man. I can't speak for others, only myself. You want to know the answer, I doubt there is one available. But, in my case, I will probably die of the Flu one day but not in the near future. But if I am infected with Corvid 19 I will be gone in about a week. I am sure there are a few hundred thousand of others in the same boat of all ages.

You aren't "one of the last"

There are still WWII and Korea vets around. My grandfather is one of them, he is 100.

You have no idea if you are a 100% fatality from COVID, and wouldn't be from the flu or even a cold if you are that sick.

And you know how many of us are left? Are you aware I was in on the last draft? Yes, there were others with draft numbers but most states stopped calling them up astaring in 1971. MOST Vietnam Vets are well into their 70s. And with the various physical and mental problems we received, we are dying at a much higher rate than the civilian counterpart.

I would like to give your Grandfather a salute. But I look at the time line for WWII. My Father was a WWII Vet. He died at age 82 in 2003. He was drafted in 1942 and served in North Africa, The invasion of Sicily, Italy and the Invasion of Southern France. If he were alive today, he would be right around 100 years old as well. These were the Greatest Americans that EVER lived and will probably ever live. And you bringing him up in your BS post, he should slap you across the head.

You claimed you are "one of the last", you are not.

He would call you out on that.

Depends on what you are using for the numbers. He can call me on it all he wants. But all he is doing is trying to use it to win an argument using those of us that served during that time period. There used to be about a hundred million of us and there are one hell of a lot less of us today. You "The Party of the Rump" have no dignity.

100 million US servicemen/women served in Vietnam?

Take you medication. If you don't have any, go see a Doctor and get some. You really are not making any sense.

You said there were 100 million veterans of Vietnam. is that true or not?

Yes, I said it. It may have been a slight exaggeration but not by much. There were over 610,000 that were actually stationed there. But there were a hell of a lot more that served OVER Vietnam that it doesn't count. People like me. And I was only over Vietnam 3 times. The rest of the time I was serving either in Laos or over Laos which wasn't any less dangerous than serving right on the DMZ line. Then there are the guys from Guam, the F-111s and F-105s from Thailand and more. And let's not forget the Wet Service operating from the Carriers flying all sorts of Down Town Missions. You would think that the Hanoi Hilton had mostly US Servicemen in it that were stationed in Vietnam. You would be wrong. Over half of the people were Nickel Pilots and there were a lot of Navy A-7 and A-6 pilots there as well. There were very few Hanoi Hilton Residence that were actually stationed in South Vietnam. So I stand by my 1 million number.

You said 100 million. I bolded the section for your review.

And I backed it up, creampuff.

you backed up 1 million.

You first said 100 million, and then you said you stand by your 1 million.

You are missing two orders of magnitude between the two.

There were 100 million Vietnam Era Veterans. Almost an entire generation of the Males served. Well, except for your hero, bone spur. I have no idea why you are hammering away at this. It's silly. Your Leader Dodged the Draft at least 3 times using his Daddy's money. And you want to tell us Vietnam Era Vets what we should think? Newsflash: Any Vietnam Era Vet that worships the Rump definitely should turn themselves into the top floor of the nearest VA Hospital.

Vietnam era now. That's different. My dad was in the Navy during Vietnam, but only Atlantic Fleet, he never considered himself a Vietnam vet.

Why are you choosing this hill to die on? Just admit you made a mistake, and I will drop this.

Your Dad paid his dues. You paid nothing and are paying nothing today. You are just taking. Your Dad and many others did pay for you to have the right to take but that doesn't make it moral. I will ask one more time. Do you have no Dignity?

Now you are just dodging, and my right to question you comes from me being an American Citizen, regardless of my service status.

Again, why are you not just admitting you fucked up with the 100 million?

You have no blood in the Vietnam equation. You are just a nothing. And your nothingburger proves it. You need to go back to capturing flies and pulling the wings off for fun. At least you would be more exiting.

Dude, you said 100 million, then backed up 1 million. It isn't about the actual conflict,it's about math and the truth.

Stop trying to dodge and admit you fucked up the first number.

I know you have something better to do like pulling the wings off of house flies. Go upstairs and ask your Mother for more crayons for your coloring books.

 

[Jolly Roger]

I personally do not feel disrespected by the comparison of deaths between Viet Nam and now. If some of you believe I should feel disrespected, I'm OK with that if it makes you feel better. I'm not going to argue and rant and try to prove that my point is better than your point, because it's just a freaking message board. It doesn't matter in the real world. Some of you guys need to turn off the electronic device, leave the basement, and get some fresh air.

Rather than attempt to make any point, I'll just tell you how I feel about the comparison, without claiming to be right or accuse someone else of being wrong. It's just from my perspective. The VC and NVA were using rifles and machine guns and rockets, hand grenades, mortars, missiles, booby traps......and they were intentionally trying to kill us. They were doing their very best every day to kill as many of us as possible. And they did a pretty good job of it. Over an 8 year span (1964-1972) they killed some 58,000 of us. But the thing that sends a shiver down my spine is that in just 3 months, this damn virus has killed over 60,000. That's just mind blowing to me. What the hell is that number going to look like a year from now? Nobody is trying to kill us and we're over 60,000 in 3 months. That has meaning to me.

 

[esalla]

..it's disrespectful to our Vets
1. the Vietnam deaths were YOUNG, healthy, in their prime, took physicals, did PTraining, ETC!!!!
NO pre-existing problems
..most of the C19 deaths are elderly with pre-existing problems/obesity/etc
DUHHHHHHHH

2. only 2.6 million served in the Vietnam War--half of those did not serve in combat roles and/or in a combat zone
..so you have a 300 million population you are comparing to 1 million

3. many thousands MORE Vets lost their legs/arms/both/etc

4. etc --it's just plain STUPID

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So the people who died in Vietnam were more or less important that the people dying now?

Are not all lives equal

 

[martybegan]

No one is comparing COVID-19 deaths to deaths of U.S. servicemen in Vietnam.

They are using the numbers to give some perspective.

Perspective... something that is sorely lacking on this board... as well as many others...

It's meaningless perspective, with political undertones. People equate Vietnam with losing, or fuckups by those in power, or both.

I don't know about you but we militarily won vietnam and had the hearts and the minds of the people. In the last 3 years, the North was completely defeated with only Minor (but deadly) situations. General Abrams made the brag that he could fly anywhere in South Vietnam in a Chopper and not draw one single angry round. Now, what the Politicos did was the failure.

Dodge. how many Vietnams die from flu every year?

No dodge, just not applicable. I am one of the last Vietnam Era Vets alive at age 69 (I turn 70 this year) and we just don't sorry about the flue nearly as much about other things. Like not dying of cancer. I get shots every year for the Flu because a bad case of the Flu CAN be deadly due to severe lung problems. But there are things I do that keeps me from getting a full fledged Flu. With that in mind, if I get infected with Corvid 19 there is almost a 100% chance I am a dead man. I can't speak for others, only myself. You want to know the answer, I doubt there is one available. But, in my case, I will probably die of the Flu one day but not in the near future. But if I am infected with Corvid 19 I will be gone in about a week. I am sure there are a few hundred thousand of others in the same boat of all ages.

You aren't "one of the last"

There are still WWII and Korea vets around. My grandfather is one of them, he is 100.

You have no idea if you are a 100% fatality from COVID, and wouldn't be from the flu or even a cold if you are that sick.

And you know how many of us are left? Are you aware I was in on the last draft? Yes, there were others with draft numbers but most states stopped calling them up astaring in 1971. MOST Vietnam Vets are well into their 70s. And with the various physical and mental problems we received, we are dying at a much higher rate than the civilian counterpart.

I would like to give your Grandfather a salute. But I look at the time line for WWII. My Father was a WWII Vet. He died at age 82 in 2003. He was drafted in 1942 and served in North Africa, The invasion of Sicily, Italy and the Invasion of Southern France. If he were alive today, he would be right around 100 years old as well. These were the Greatest Americans that EVER lived and will probably ever live. And you bringing him up in your BS post, he should slap you across the head.

You claimed you are "one of the last", you are not.

He would call you out on that.

Depends on what you are using for the numbers. He can call me on it all he wants. But all he is doing is trying to use it to win an argument using those of us that served during that time period. There used to be about a hundred million of us and there are one hell of a lot less of us today. You "The Party of the Rump" have no dignity.

100 million US servicemen/women served in Vietnam?

Take you medication. If you don't have any, go see a Doctor and get some. You really are not making any sense.

You said there were 100 million veterans of Vietnam. is that true or not?

Yes, I said it. It may have been a slight exaggeration but not by much. There were over 610,000 that were actually stationed there. But there were a hell of a lot more that served OVER Vietnam that it doesn't count. People like me. And I was only over Vietnam 3 times. The rest of the time I was serving either in Laos or over Laos which wasn't any less dangerous than serving right on the DMZ line. Then there are the guys from Guam, the F-111s and F-105s from Thailand and more. And let's not forget the Wet Service operating from the Carriers flying all sorts of Down Town Missions. You would think that the Hanoi Hilton had mostly US Servicemen in it that were stationed in Vietnam. You would be wrong. Over half of the people were Nickel Pilots and there were a lot of Navy A-7 and A-6 pilots there as well. There were very few Hanoi Hilton Residence that were actually stationed in South Vietnam. So I stand by my 1 million number.

You said 100 million. I bolded the section for your review.

And I backed it up, creampuff.

you backed up 1 million.

You first said 100 million, and then you said you stand by your 1 million.

You are missing two orders of magnitude between the two.

There were 100 million Vietnam Era Veterans. Almost an entire generation of the Males served. Well, except for your hero, bone spur. I have no idea why you are hammering away at this. It's silly. Your Leader Dodged the Draft at least 3 times using his Daddy's money. And you want to tell us Vietnam Era Vets what we should think? Newsflash: Any Vietnam Era Vet that worships the Rump definitely should turn themselves into the top floor of the nearest VA Hospital.

Vietnam era now. That's different. My dad was in the Navy during Vietnam, but only Atlantic Fleet, he never considered himself a Vietnam vet.

Why are you choosing this hill to die on? Just admit you made a mistake, and I will drop this.

Your Dad paid his dues. You paid nothing and are paying nothing today. You are just taking. Your Dad and many others did pay for you to have the right to take but that doesn't make it moral. I will ask one more time. Do you have no Dignity?

Now you are just dodging, and my right to question you comes from me being an American Citizen, regardless of my service status.

Again, why are you not just admitting you fucked up with the 100 million?

You have no blood in the Vietnam equation. You are just a nothing. And your nothingburger proves it. You need to go back to capturing flies and pulling the wings off for fun. At least you would be more exiting.

Dude, you said 100 million, then backed up 1 million. It isn't about the actual conflict,it's about math and the truth.

Stop trying to dodge and admit you fucked up the first number.

I know you have something better to do like pulling the wings off of house flies. Go upstairs and ask your Mother for more crayons for your coloring books.

Admit you made a mistake. Own up to it.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

No one is comparing COVID-19 deaths to deaths of U.S. servicemen in Vietnam.

They are using the numbers to give some perspective.

Perspective... something that is sorely lacking on this board... as well as many others...

It's meaningless perspective, with political undertones. People equate Vietnam with losing, or fuckups by those in power, or both.

I don't know about you but we militarily won vietnam and had the hearts and the minds of the people. In the last 3 years, the North was completely defeated with only Minor (but deadly) situations. General Abrams made the brag that he could fly anywhere in South Vietnam in a Chopper and not draw one single angry round. Now, what the Politicos did was the failure.

Dodge. how many Vietnams die from flu every year?

No dodge, just not applicable. I am one of the last Vietnam Era Vets alive at age 69 (I turn 70 this year) and we just don't sorry about the flue nearly as much about other things. Like not dying of cancer. I get shots every year for the Flu because a bad case of the Flu CAN be deadly due to severe lung problems. But there are things I do that keeps me from getting a full fledged Flu. With that in mind, if I get infected with Corvid 19 there is almost a 100% chance I am a dead man. I can't speak for others, only myself. You want to know the answer, I doubt there is one available. But, in my case, I will probably die of the Flu one day but not in the near future. But if I am infected with Corvid 19 I will be gone in about a week. I am sure there are a few hundred thousand of others in the same boat of all ages.

You aren't "one of the last"

There are still WWII and Korea vets around. My grandfather is one of them, he is 100.

You have no idea if you are a 100% fatality from COVID, and wouldn't be from the flu or even a cold if you are that sick.

And you know how many of us are left? Are you aware I was in on the last draft? Yes, there were others with draft numbers but most states stopped calling them up astaring in 1971. MOST Vietnam Vets are well into their 70s. And with the various physical and mental problems we received, we are dying at a much higher rate than the civilian counterpart.

I would like to give your Grandfather a salute. But I look at the time line for WWII. My Father was a WWII Vet. He died at age 82 in 2003. He was drafted in 1942 and served in North Africa, The invasion of Sicily, Italy and the Invasion of Southern France. If he were alive today, he would be right around 100 years old as well. These were the Greatest Americans that EVER lived and will probably ever live. And you bringing him up in your BS post, he should slap you across the head.

You claimed you are "one of the last", you are not.

He would call you out on that.

Depends on what you are using for the numbers. He can call me on it all he wants. But all he is doing is trying to use it to win an argument using those of us that served during that time period. There used to be about a hundred million of us and there are one hell of a lot less of us today. You "The Party of the Rump" have no dignity.

100 million US servicemen/women served in Vietnam?

Take you medication. If you don't have any, go see a Doctor and get some. You really are not making any sense.

You said there were 100 million veterans of Vietnam. is that true or not?

Yes, I said it. It may have been a slight exaggeration but not by much. There were over 610,000 that were actually stationed there. But there were a hell of a lot more that served OVER Vietnam that it doesn't count. People like me. And I was only over Vietnam 3 times. The rest of the time I was serving either in Laos or over Laos which wasn't any less dangerous than serving right on the DMZ line. Then there are the guys from Guam, the F-111s and F-105s from Thailand and more. And let's not forget the Wet Service operating from the Carriers flying all sorts of Down Town Missions. You would think that the Hanoi Hilton had mostly US Servicemen in it that were stationed in Vietnam. You would be wrong. Over half of the people were Nickel Pilots and there were a lot of Navy A-7 and A-6 pilots there as well. There were very few Hanoi Hilton Residence that were actually stationed in South Vietnam. So I stand by my 1 million number.

You said 100 million. I bolded the section for your review.

And I backed it up, creampuff.

you backed up 1 million.

You first said 100 million, and then you said you stand by your 1 million.

You are missing two orders of magnitude between the two.

There were 100 million Vietnam Era Veterans. Almost an entire generation of the Males served. Well, except for your hero, bone spur. I have no idea why you are hammering away at this. It's silly. Your Leader Dodged the Draft at least 3 times using his Daddy's money. And you want to tell us Vietnam Era Vets what we should think? Newsflash: Any Vietnam Era Vet that worships the Rump definitely should turn themselves into the top floor of the nearest VA Hospital.

Vietnam era now. That's different. My dad was in the Navy during Vietnam, but only Atlantic Fleet, he never considered himself a Vietnam vet.

Why are you choosing this hill to die on? Just admit you made a mistake, and I will drop this.

Your Dad paid his dues. You paid nothing and are paying nothing today. You are just taking. Your Dad and many others did pay for you to have the right to take but that doesn't make it moral. I will ask one more time. Do you have no Dignity?

Now you are just dodging, and my right to question you comes from me being an American Citizen, regardless of my service status.

Again, why are you not just admitting you fucked up with the 100 million?

You have no blood in the Vietnam equation. You are just a nothing. And your nothingburger proves it. You need to go back to capturing flies and pulling the wings off for fun. At least you would be more exiting.

Dude, you said 100 million, then backed up 1 million. It isn't about the actual conflict,it's about math and the truth.

Stop trying to dodge and admit you fucked up the first number.

I know you have something better to do like pulling the wings off of house flies. Go upstairs and ask your Mother for more crayons for your coloring books.

Admit you made a mistake. Own up to it.

Why admit to something that is just a figment of your imagination? Get out of that basement more often. Yes, I know, you can't hang out in the comic book store right now but you can go to the forest and enjoy nature.