Stop Coddling The Super-Rich

[kaz]

The rabid right should discontinue the pablum about "punishing success" and get real with the facts about breaking the backs of the American workers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html

The vast majority of the American people aren't with that RW talking point. Just about every poll bares that out.

The far right is about to damage the Republican party, once again.

Charming, another liberal engaging in rich bashing. Take some responsibly for your own choices. The top 1% of earners pay 40% of the taxes. Just because we say "enough" and don't engage in your endless bitch hunts to abdicate your own responsibility for your own life and your own values doesn't mean we're "coddling" anyone. My God, man, grow a pair.

 

[Flopper]

81.3% of the income of the super rich comes from cashing dividend, interest, rent, business profits, and capital gains distribution, checks. This of course does not include all the tax free income. 18.7% comes from actual work.

For tax filers reporting $10M or more:
45.4% capital gains
22.1% interest, dividends, rent
18.8% wages and salaries
18.7% business income

Statistically, how did the rich get their money? - Quora

 

[kaz]

81.3% of the income of the super rich comes from cashing dividend, interest, rent, business profits, and capital gains distribution, checks. This of course does not include all the tax free income. 18.7% comes from actual work.

For tax filers reporting $10M or more:
45.4% capital gains
22.1% interest, dividends, rent
18.8% wages and salaries
18.7% business income

Statistically, how did the rich get their money? - Quora

So it's your job to decide what is and isn't an acceptable way for them to earn their money and decide what taxes are "fair" based on that? How do you get your head through doorways?

 

[flacaltenn]

Those people worked hard manipulating markets and accounting books.

....Or winning the PGA championship or concert touring in a meat suit or starring in a Hollywood movie. You guys in the class war have no cred.. Because you don't even understand the diff between Cap gains and income tax. No wonder the economy is hog-tied.

No amount of sheer demonization is working...

Leave up to a right wing idiot to become hostile when I point out the fact that plenty of rich people have earned it through market manipulation at the expense of others rather than the old fashioned way or hard work and ingenuity. You fucking idiots just turn a blind eye on this shit.

Additionally, the rich do very well in working with the government and receive a plethora of political favoritisms. However, right wingers only like to attack single mothers, children, and the elderly regarding welfare. Corporate welfare is off the table.

Its not difficult to understand the difference between income and capital tax. I have no idea where that came from. However, righties love to create red herrings and distort the truth.

Anymore useless comments from you or are you done?

First off you lose because I'm not a right wing idiot.. To prove that - corporate welfare IS NOT off the table with me.. But the fact that you maybe DON'T want to demonize and punish ALL rich people - just the ones' that you deem "deserve" to be punished means that you are not a COMMITTED leftist. Because the HONEST leftists don't care if it's the quarterback of the NE Patriots or a hedge fund mgr. Make up your mind... And don't blame ME for your confusion..

And the thing about capital gains versus income tax is because those who use hedge fund mgr as their example of evil don't even realize that the Bush tax cuts were MUTE on appreciable benefit to those guys.

As long as you realize WHO your targeting and what TAX tool you want to use to injure them --- you're a relative lefty genius..

 

[The T]

The rabid right should discontinue the pablum about "punishing success" and get real with the facts about breaking the backs of the American workers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html

The vast majority of the American people aren't with that RW talking point. Just about every poll bares that out.

The far right is about to damage the Republican party, once again.

Charming, another liberal engaging in rich bashing. Take some responsibly for your own choices. The top 1% of earners pay 40% of the taxes. Just because we say "enough" and don't engage in your endless bitch hunts to abdicate your own responsibility for your own life and your own values doesn't mean we're "coddling" anyone. My God, man, grow a pair.

Marc Has been emasculated again for the utter FOOL that he is.

 

[Rozman]

Is this that same dopey story where Buffett's secretary pays a higher % in taxes then he does....
If he feels so frigging guilty about what he pays in taxes and feels it's not enough...
Write a check to Obama and be done with it.I'm sure they,the Dems will have no trouble spending it.

 

[Flopper]

81.3% of the income of the super rich comes from cashing dividend, interest, rent, business profits, and capital gains distribution, checks. This of course does not include all the tax free income. 18.7% comes from actual work.

For tax filers reporting $10M or more:
45.4% capital gains
22.1% interest, dividends, rent
18.8% wages and salaries
18.7% business income

Statistically, how did the rich get their money? - Quora

So it's your job to decide what is and isn't an acceptable way for them to earn their money and decide what taxes are "fair" based on that? How do you get your head through doorways?

No, just a comment. Earned income is income you get from working, not drawing interest, dividends, etc. Most of the income from the super rich is unearned income. It's income they derive from being rich.

 

[flacaltenn]

81.3% of the income of the super rich comes from cashing dividend, interest, rent, business profits, and capital gains distribution, checks. This of course does not include all the tax free income. 18.7% comes from actual work.

For tax filers reporting $10M or more:
45.4% capital gains
22.1% interest, dividends, rent
18.8% wages and salaries
18.7% business income

Statistically, how did the rich get their money? - Quora

So it's your job to decide what is and isn't an acceptable way for them to earn their money and decide what taxes are "fair" based on that? How do you get your head through doorways?

No, just a comment. Earned income is income you get from working, not drawing interest, dividends, etc. Most of the income from the super rich is unearned income. It's income they derive from being rich.

OR --- it's a farmer selling 1/2 his land and owing 15% of that to the govt.

EVERYONE is eligible for interest and dividends. Up until our recent depression and concommitant Fed policies, MANY retired folk used to live on it as well..

 

[kaz]

Is this that same dopey story where Buffett's secretary pays a higher % in taxes then he does....
If he feels so frigging guilty about what he pays in taxes and feels it's not enough...
Write a check to Obama and be done with it.I'm sure they,the Dems will have no trouble spending it.

First of all his "secretary" probably makes six figures. But ignoring that, he thinks he should pay a higher tax rate, then he hires an army of accountants and tax lawyers to not pay it. What a fucking hypocrite. He doesn't live by his own standard. Credibility? Zero.

It's like Obama. He "does't need" his refund, then he goes out and preaches the money he admits he's too skin flint to pay on his own should be confiscated from him because...he's damn well not paying it on his own...

A standard one doesn't apply to oneself isn't a standard, it's not even a double edged sword, it's an admission they aren't men enough to live their own words. Do as I say, not as I do. The mantra of Obama and Warren Buffet.

 

[kaz]

81.3% of the income of the super rich comes from cashing dividend, interest, rent, business profits, and capital gains distribution, checks. This of course does not include all the tax free income. 18.7% comes from actual work.

For tax filers reporting $10M or more:
45.4% capital gains
22.1% interest, dividends, rent
18.8% wages and salaries
18.7% business income

Statistically, how did the rich get their money? - Quora

So it's your job to decide what is and isn't an acceptable way for them to earn their money and decide what taxes are "fair" based on that? How do you get your head through doorways?

No, just a comment. Earned income is income you get from working, not drawing interest, dividends, etc. Most of the income from the super rich is unearned income. It's income they derive from being rich.

One out of one hundred pay 40% of all taxes. One out of 20 pay 60% of all taxes.

In your "comment" where you point to statistics that you admittedly don't have the balls to stand behind. How much is enough for you? What should one out of 100 pay if 40% isn't enough? What should 1 out of 20 pay if 60% isn't enough? Can you actually take a position or are you going to go with another "comment" you won't stand behind?

 

[Zander]

81.3% of the income of the super rich comes from cashing dividend, interest, rent, business profits, and capital gains distribution, checks. This of course does not include all the tax free income. 18.7% comes from actual work.

For tax filers reporting $10M or more:
45.4% capital gains
22.1% interest, dividends, rent
18.8% wages and salaries
18.7% business income

Statistically, how did the rich get their money? - Quora

So it's your job to decide what is and isn't an acceptable way for them to earn their money and decide what taxes are "fair" based on that? How do you get your head through doorways?

No, just a comment. Earned income is income you get from working, not drawing interest, dividends, etc. Most of the income from the super rich is unearned income. It's income they derive from being rich.

No it's not, it is income derived from deploying their capital. That is what we do in a capitalist society. Nobody is stopping anyone from investing their own capital. You can start with as little as $10.00

 

[kaz]

So it's your job to decide what is and isn't an acceptable way for them to earn their money and decide what taxes are "fair" based on that? How do you get your head through doorways?

No, just a comment. Earned income is income you get from working, not drawing interest, dividends, etc. Most of the income from the super rich is unearned income. It's income they derive from being rich.

No it's not, it is income derived from deploying their capital. That is what we do in a capitalist society. Nobody is stopping anyone from investing their own capital. You can start with as little as $10.00

And if you give him $10 he just may do that. Or he may buy cigarettes...

 

[MarcATL]

The rabid right should discontinue the pablum about "punishing success" and get real with the facts about breaking the backs of the American workers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html

The vast majority of the American people aren't with that RW talking point. Just about every poll bares that out.

The far right is about to damage the Republican party, once again.

Charming, another liberal engaging in rich bashing. Take some responsibly for your own choices. The top 1% of earners pay 40% of the taxes. Just because we say "enough" and don't engage in your endless bitch hunts to abdicate your own responsibility for your own life and your own values doesn't mean we're "coddling" anyone. My God, man, grow a pair.

The article was written by a super-rich individual.

These are the facts.

SNAP OUT OF IT!!

 

[Maple]

The rabid right should discontinue the pablum about "punishing success" and get real with the facts about breaking the backs of the American workers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html

The vast majority of the American people aren't with that RW talking point. Just about every poll bares that out.

The far right is about to damage the Republican party, once again.

" Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, the gospel of envy, it's inherent virtue is the shared equality of misery." Winston Churchill

" When Democrats start talking about raising taxes on the wealthy the middle class needs to run for cover." Fred Thompson

No thank you, I am a capitalist and intend to stay that way. You must be a socialist.

The more of " my" money the government confiscates the less I can spend, save and invest that means fewer jobs. Econ 101

We don't have a revenue problem in Washington D>C we have a spending problem- it's like a spoiled teenager who runs up your credit card, then complains because she maxed out the limit, you raise the limit and she spends more, until you have to raise the limit again. No- don't want to go down that rode again.

And if Warren Buffet wants to pay more taxes, let him, he can write out a check for 5 billion and send it in. It's his choice. There is absolutely nothing stopping him from doing that, he needs to walk his talk.

 

[Big Fitz]

When are the poor going to pay their fair share instead of profiting from 'paying' their taxes?

 

[MarcATL]

We're not going to cut our way to jobs and to prosperity.

Wake up MORANS!!!

 

[Full-Auto]

We're not going to cut our way to jobs and to prosperity.

Wake up MORANS!!!

Add a few thousand regulations. The dem plan. Hows it working so far?

 

[Big Fitz]

The rabid right should discontinue the pablum about "punishing success" and get real with the facts about breaking the backs of the American workers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html

The vast majority of the American people aren't with that RW talking point. Just about every poll bares that out.

The far right is about to damage the Republican party, once again.

Charming, another liberal engaging in rich bashing. Take some responsibly for your own choices. The top 1% of earners pay 40% of the taxes. Just because we say "enough" and don't engage in your endless bitch hunts to abdicate your own responsibility for your own life and your own values doesn't mean we're "coddling" anyone. My God, man, grow a pair.

The article was written by a super-rich individual.

These are the facts.

SNAP OUT OF IT!!

There is a single line on that tax form of his that states clearly you can overpay your taxes. If he's not paying enough, he can stop taking all the deductions and pay as much more as he wants.

He has no right to say anyone else must do the same.

 

[Big Fitz]

We're not going to cut our way to jobs and to prosperity.

Wake up MORANS!!!

Let's see.

Decrease the overall size of government...
Decrease the amount of tax necessary to support it...
Return more money to businesses and individuals...
Who then invest and spend it....


Nooo..... that won't increase demand support job growth through stabilizing markets, or make the lives of people better at all.

You can't SPEND your way out of a debt crisis either you fucking idiot.

 

[MarcATL]

There is a single line on that tax form of his that states clearly you can overpay your taxes. If he's not paying enough, he can stop taking all the deductions and pay as much more as he wants.

He has no right to say anyone else must do the same.

Listen NAZI, the last time I checked we live in FREE COUNTRY where EVERY. SINGLE. INDIVIDUAL has the right to free speech.

That means he's FREE to say whatever he wants.

Why do you hate America...Nazi?