The Democrats I've Been Waiting For!

[RoshawnMarkwees]

We need two parties.

What do you propose?

The republican party and the American party. Or maybe follow sports and call them American and National.
Just remove the democrat party and all it represents.

 

[daveman]

We all rely on the government to keep us safe. Cars are much safer after gov't mandated safety features like seat belts. Flying is safe because the gov't sets standards. The gov't kept us safe from Nazis and the Japanese in WWII. Etc. If you believe you need a gun when we have police, I guess you should carry a fire extinguisher in case of fire.

Since we have fire departments, we don't need fire extinguishers.

That's what you're using instead of logic.

 

[alang1216]

I am far left, but disagree on firearms.
While government can be good, historically government has always become worse over time and always eventually becomes the enemy.
For example, ancient Rome used to be a republic, and slowly became an empire.
Never has any republic lasted more than a few hundred years.
And in fact, the US is way beyond being able to be saved, in my opinion.
Just go back and look at all the wars.
The last legitimate war was in 1812.
All the rest were fake, horrific, war crimes, based on lies and profits.
Like claiming the Spanish torpedoed the USS Maine, when clearly it was a faulty boiler explosion.
The US was evil to join the assassins and invaders of WWI.
The US was evil to allow the Treaty of Versailles to steal half of Germany and cause WWII.
The US was evil to try to install Chang Kai Shek as dictator in China, Syngman Rhee as dictator in Korea, Diem as dictator in Vietnam, Batista as dictator in Cuba, the Shah as dictator in Iran, Samosa as dictator in Nicaragua, etc.

The main reason we all need guns is BECAUSE the police not only have them, but use them so badly, to murder innocent people.
Like the millions the police illegally imprison on victimless crimes like drugs, prostitution, etc.
The police are primarily an extortion racket.

There were two times in US history that privately owned guns were used against our gov't on a large scale. The first was the Revolutionary War where we gained our independence. Big deal, had we failed we might be like Australia or Canada. The other was the Civil War and no one won that one.

 

[alang1216]

Since we have fire departments, we don't need fire extinguishers.

That's what you're using instead of logic.

If you want a gun or fire extinguisher to keep in your house for self defense, that is fine. If you want to just walk around with either, that is weird.

 

[alang1216]

She actually didn't admit that

She didn't actually say she could pull the husband out of the fire, did she?

She didn't say that she could or that she couldn't.

but that is besides the point, if DEI results in lowered standards that is not acceptable.

It did result in lowered standards.

How do you know that?

The standards should be appropriate for the job so should be different for firemen climbing ladders and firemen answering phone calls.

I agree, she should be answering the phones, not endangering people's lives.

She is a senior level administrator I believe, I doubt she rides fire trucks now, if she ever did.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

She didn't say that she could or that she couldn't.


How do you know that?


She is a senior level administrator I believe, I doubt she rides fire trucks now, if she ever did.

She didn't say that she could or that she couldn't.

Why don't you post what she said?

How do you know that?

Because the fat black lesbian who couldn't pull a guy out of a burning house got promoted to assistant fire chief.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Not the mindless supporters of the failed agenda, but those who realize that America needs two strong PRO-AMERICA parties, and can learn from the drubbing that Trump just administered.

Ro Khanna is my kind of Democrat. He writes:



1. "Millions of Americans approve of the Trump administration’s efforts to eliminate supposedly wasteful federal spending by any means necessary. That puts my party in a bind. But Democrats must do more than just confront the cuts. We must also break free from a stale, conventional platform.


2. We have to acknowledge what we spectacularly failed to recognize in the last election — that the status quo is broken and Americans are feeling a righteous anger about the real damage that the governing class has done to their lives over the past few decades."

Opinion | Ro Khanna: Democrats Have a Future. Here It Is.

The alternative to Trump cannot be a defense of institutions as they are.

www.nytimes.com

3. Trumism is an actual revolution. He has defeated both establishment parties and media. None of us has ever lived through a baptism ike this.




4. "With the establishment of both parties defeated, we are, as you may have heard, at a fork in the road. Either the country will continue to succumb to a burn-it-all-down political nihilism and disillusionment, or Democrats can use this moment of crisis to reframe the terms of the debate. We must persuade people that transformative government is capable of improving their lives by reversing what many have experienced as decades of stagnation and decline.


5. "about the rise of President Trump — and his elevation of those fixated on dismantling our institutions, such as Russell Vought and Stephen Miller — is that it reflects the deep disdain that many Americans have for politicians and politics. "
Ibid.



Remember this Democrat when you read posts by those Democrats still stuck in the primordial ooze of Harris, Biden, Obama, Clinton.

For the sake of some political balance in America, Democrats need to wake up and go back to being the party of John F. Kennedy. This includes supporting equal rights for everybody thereby opposing DEI, work for meritocracy not the opposite.

Ro made some good points. I saw his interview on the PBD podcast as well.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

She didn't say that she could or that she couldn't.


How do you know that?


She is a senior level administrator I believe, I doubt she rides fire trucks now, if she ever did.

She is a senior level administrator I believe, I doubt she rides fire trucks now, if she ever did.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

It is the Republican party that has been destroyed. It no longer exists. Democrats are just fine. Pr America doesn't mean pro-white, and that's what the Republican Party is, and your dumb Asian ass hates yourself so much that you want to be part of your own demise.

There are sure some stupid people attending Ivy League schools.

^This is the exact toxicity that cost the democrats the election and if they don’t change, they will never win another presidential election again. As now 40% of black men support Trump.

Complaining about racism when it doesn’t exist ….. calling Trump Hitler etc are totally insane things to say. Along with the idea that there are 100 genders, sex change operations for kids, DEI etc Democrats absolutely must oppose this insanity or the finished.

‘Black men love Trump’ dooms Democrats with 42% support: Poll

President Donald Trump has Democrats on the ropes with his surging support from African Americans, prompting a poll to declare that “black men love Trump.” In a new Cygnal survey

gazette.com

Some Democrats claim that the race of America will be much different 50 years from now. Maybe it will I don’t really care about skin color myself…. but even if it is, the Democrats need to change their ways or they will keep getting crushed in election after election.

 

[alang1216]

She didn't say that she could or that she couldn't.

Why don't you post what she said?

Feel free.

How do you know that?

Because the fat black lesbian who couldn't pull a guy out of a burning house got promoted to assistant fire chief.

Not an answer, just an opinion.

 

[alang1216]

She is a senior level administrator I believe, I doubt she rides fire trucks now, if she ever did.

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So what was the standard she didn't meet when she worked in the 'field'?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So what was the standard she didn't meet when she worked in the 'field'?

Physical strength, apparently.

 

[BluesLegend]

For the sake of some political balance in America, Democrats need to wake up and go back to being the party of John F. Kennedy.

The Kennedy moderates were PURGED from the Dem party while the Dem left wing cheered. There's almost no moderates left. Hence their insane policies and the damage to America.

 

[BluesLegend]

^This is the exact toxicity that cost the democrats the election and if they don’t change

They won't change and can't change, this is who they are. When I say the Dem party is bleeding its base and circling the drain this is why. The radical left, the far-left zealots took over the party and they do not change or moderate it's not in their nature. Even back when the moderates far outnumbered the left wing they had trouble controlling those crazies.

 

[alang1216]

Physical strength, apparently.

reasonable guess but still just a guess

 

[PoliticalChic]

For the sake of some political balance in America, Democrats need to wake up and go back to being the party of John F. Kennedy. This includes supporting equal rights for everybody thereby opposing DEI, work for meritocracy not the opposite.

Ro made some good points. I saw his interview on the PBD podcast as well.

And that is pretty much the import of the OP.

Glad you agree.

 

[PoliticalChic]

They won't change and can't change, this is who they are. When I say the Dem party is bleeding its base and circling the drain this is why. The radical left, the far-left zealots took over the party and they do not change or moderate it's not in their nature. Even back when the moderates far outnumbered the left wing they had trouble controlling those crazies.

I have found it less than propitious to believe that things will always remain as they are at the moment.

Hope for the best and plan for the worst.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The JFK standard is bogus and moot. Kennedy’s own brother, Ted, worked with the Soviet’s in 1984 to try to defeat Reagan. That’s how far gone the party already was and that was over forty years ago.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Did conservatives say the same doom and gloom when Obama won big? They certainly didn't when Trump lost his bid for reelection. Pendulums swing both ways.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It is the Republican party that has been destroyed. It no longer exists. Democrats are just fine. Pr America doesn't mean pro-white, and that's what the Republican Party is, and your dumb Asian ass hates yourself so much that you want to be part of your own demise.

There are sure some stupid people attending Ivy League schools.