Still think this isn't fascism?

[Marchimedes]

Since immigrants harm no one,

Generally they don't. But then...



that came with SlowJoeBiden.

You want that, Rigby5.

 

[jknowgood]

No it hasn't,

That's already been repeatedly debunked.

You loons let them get to comfortable. Now it's their problem.

 

[Rigby5]

People who take the oath of citizenship and then proceed to commit crimes such as the ones described in the memo, by definition call into question their sincerity when they took the oath. Therefore, the validity of their citizenship is lacking, as is the benefit that normally acrues to the nation when honest and hardworking immigrants proudly take that oath.



So **** 'em.

Wrong.
The history of denaturalization was for political reasons only.
{...
Denaturalization is a tactic that was heavily used during the McCarthy era of the late 1940s and the early 1950s
...}
And conviction for a crime is not sufficiently valid since innocents are still convicted about 10% of the time.

Think about what you are actually suggesting, since historically the main groups of people denaturalization was used on were Italians and Irish.

 

[Rawley]

I never let tRumplings in the house just to keep that from happening.

Your faux outrage at this memo, and your pitiful deflection to TRUMP, says you wouldn't kick them out for shitting on your kitchen table. In fact you'd invite them to torture your family, steal all your $$$ and have sex with the neighbor's children on your living room floor.

 

[Rigby5]

I see instructions to enforce immigration laws on illegal aliens. Personally, I think they should be deported any time they come to the attention of ANY governmental official.

Enforcing immigration laws requires judicial due process and the whole point of this is to bypass judicial due process.
Just "ANY government official" is going to have personal bias, not know the law, and is going to illegally abuse people, if you don't have judicial due process.

 

[Rigby5]

And? Every bar has this right and bouncers to deport douchebags out of the building. If you are a guest in MY country and start shit, then yeah GTFO!

Wrong.
A bar is private property and can be denied to anyone at any time.
The whole country is public proper and nothing public can be denied to anyone unless their is judicial due process that makes it necessary.

 

[Cougarbear]

Wrong.
The law actually says that Mexicans are natives so are supposed to have free movement anywhere in the Americas.
The law also protects those with citizens spouses or children.

The reality is that most US citizens actually are descendants of European invaders who murdered natives, and should not be allowed to be here at all.

 

[Rigby5]

Yup. Just curious, you invite someone into your home and they take a dump on your kitchen table, do you kick them out?

Your home is private property.
You do not have to follow any rules.

The country is not private property.
You do have to follow due process rules.

 

[Crepitus]

Wrong.
A bar is private property and can be denied to anyone at any time.
The whole country is public proper and nothing public can be denied to anyone unless their is judicial due process that makes it necessary.

They seem to have the same lack of understanding as they do with the first amendment only flipped 180 degrees.

 

[Rigby5]

I'll bet he isn't legal, did he get his citizenship?

They have made it nearly impossible now to get citizenship.
It takes over 14 years and can cost tens of thousands of dollars.
But Kilmar got a protection order, which is like temporary citizenship.
So he could not legally be deported.

 

[Marchimedes]

Of course....what else are these drooling MAGA fucktards going to do?

Why of course we shall demand the citing of the law that doesn't exist.

Well, that is the nice thing about being a Nazi....you can just pretend that Trump is following the law and pretend that you are not sick in the head.

Still asking you (many of us are now) to cite the law...

The law actually says that Mexicans are natives so are supposed to have free movement anywhere in the Americas.

How do you get from that to what you said above?

 

[The Duke]

Generally they don't. But then...



that came with SlowJoeBiden.

You want that, Rigby5.

It went away with Trump, too.

 

[Contumacious]

That is the point.
Doing something illegal in a republic, means harming someone else.
Since immigrants harm no one, then they are not doing anything illegal by basic principles.
When you make draconian dictates, like Prohibition, the war on drugs, immigration restrictions, etc., that is fascism.
It is no longer a republic, but the dictates of the wealthy elite, oligarchs.

PURE UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT


OUR CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC WAS CREATED IN ORDER TO BENEFIT "WE THE PEOPLE" OUR GOALS :

1- forming a more perfect union,
2- promote the general Welfare
3-insure domestic Tranquility,

NO ONE HAS SHOWN ME HOW THE 15,000,000+ unvetted illegals satisfy the afioremention goals

Hence they must be deported

 

[Rigby5]

Fascism is Mother government control of the means of production.

Just ask Mussolini.

Actually Mussolini protected the privatization of everything, and fascism is an oligarchy of the wealthy elite.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Fascism is Mother government control of the means of production.

Just ask Mussolini.

Yeah....but Nazism is making up your own reality.

Which is what you MAGA sickos do. --

2020 "stolen" election...."Deep State".....Jan 6 "Inside Job"

******* deranged as ****....all of you.

 

[yidnar]

They are giving themselves carte blanche to deport any legal immigrant they don't like for any reason or none at all.

YOu should know why that is bad, but many of you will pretend you don't.

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[AZrailwhale]

Enforcing immigration laws requires judicial due process and the whole point of this is to bypass judicial due process.
Just "ANY government official" is going to have personal bias, not know the law, and is going to illegally abuse people, if you don't have judicial due process.

Wrong. Enforcing immigration laws through due process involves a hearing with an immigration official, NOT a judge holding a court hearing. Due process doesn’t always involve the courts. Getting a building permit from your city is due process and the courts aren’t involved at all.

 

[Rigby5]

Generally they don't. But then...



that came with SlowJoeBiden.

You want that, Rigby5.

Wrong.
This was covered by FactCheck and the people in the apartment were all highly paid green card imports. They were not gang members and they were not doing anything illegal.
They were defending the apartment against a crime that had been committed.

 

[yidnar]

i sure as hell dont always get the white guy treatment....Mexicans speak to me in Spanish....

they speak to the OP with a lisp .

 

[Contumacious]

Actually Mussolini protected the privatization of everything, and fascism is an oligarchy of the wealthy elite.

I TAKE IT THAT YOU NEVER GRADUATED FROM HS:

Mussolini was a MOTHERFUCKING SOCIALIST
But he knew socialism was a failure so invented FASCISM



...The Fascist State organizes the nation, but leaves a sufficient margin of liberty to the individual; the latter is deprived of all useless and possibly harmful freedom, but retains what is essential; the deciding power in this question cannot be the individual, but the State alone....




Benito Mussolini:

What is Fascism, 1932

Internet History Sourcebooks: Modern History