Starmer speaks with trump and Zelenskyy after WH row

[Oddball]

I can't believe you're that gullible....

Believe it!

 

[Rocko]

That's not the argument, Rocko.
The war can't go on forever with us financing the lion's share.

I mean we already made a big investment in protecting Ukraine. It was be ashamed if it turned out to be a waste of resources.

 

[JimH52]

Let Europe fund the war. I don't see what the problem is there.

The EU knows what Poootin is. The EU can be trusted. The US....not so much anymore. trump is gong to reinstate the Russian embassy and he will lift all sanctions on Russia. We know where his allegiance lies.

 

[Oddball]

Honestly we can’t dictate to Ukraine about a peace deal. They’re a sovereign nation. We could try to mediate, but we have to be fair. Ukraine was the one that was invaded.

There was a peace deal on the table, and Tenpercentskyy rejected it.

The invasion didn't have to happen.

 

[Rawley]

Nor do I. But the OP was about Europe doing the mineral deal. Let them and then they can fund the war.

And I repeat, they haven't and they won't. Trump is the only one talking about ending this war and you clowns are vilifying him for slapping some reality into that delusional little troll yesterday.

 

[Rawley]

How about you Jimbo? Other than chanting POOOTIN, what's your suggestion to ending this war?

why the crickets JimH52?

 

[JimH52]

What's the Dim Plan? I will keep asking. If you got nothing (and you got nothing) maybe STFU.

It sure isn't to coddle Poootin and speak his words. trump nearly got teary eyed when he spoke of all the pain he an Poootin endured during Russiagate. Poor Vlad....

 

[Meister]

I mean we already made a big investment in protecting Ukraine. It was be ashamed if it turned out to be a waste of resources.

And Trump was going to bring peace between the two countries.
The Zman didn't want peace, he wanted us to give him the advantage with the war.
That also entailed us to possibly put boots on the ground which most assuredly
would have put WWIII into play.

 

[pknopp]

The EU knows what Poootin is. The EU can be trusted. The US....not so much anymore. trump is gong to reinstate the Russian embassy and he will lift all sanctions on Russia. We know where his allegiance lies.

I'm good with lifting sanctions everywhere.

 

[pknopp]

And I repeat, they haven't and they won't.

Oh well.

Trump is the only one talking about ending this war and you clowns are vilifying him for slapping some reality into that delusional little troll yesterday.

LOL. You don't end the war by funding it.

 

[Rawley]

Oh well.



LOL. You don't end the war by funding it.

Duh. That was the point Trump was making with the dictator yesterday. Did you miss that?

 

[pknopp]

Duh. That was the point Trump was making with the dictator yesterday. Did you miss that?

Trump wanted the minerals to continue funding the war. That would have ended with us involved.

 

[Edgetho]

I can't believe you're that gullible....

1.) Why do you insist that Russia must be an enemy? Do you need an enemy? Are you short on enemies these days?

Russia has been the opposition in every War we've been involved in for the past 100 years. They only changed sides in WW2 because Hitler invaded them...... AFTER they signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler. The gas flowing through the Panzers that were flattening Paris and driving the British into the English Channel was Russian gasoline.

2.) One vote on one Issue dues not make for an alliance...where were you for the dozens of other votes? You're only interested in one vote?
How old are you? 15?

3.) Time to lift the Sanctions and let the world economy flourish. Everybody wins that way. Yes Ukraine too!

Putin is a scumbag and Russia is the West's enemy. Always had been, always will be. Always

4.) No amount of investment in this war will change the outcome.

Russia is already faltering. They are not the Russia or USSR of old. Their equipment is outdated, unreliable and mostly broken. Their Manpower isn't what it used to be. Their total population is 144 million which places them at #9. Not impressive. Also of note is that in their fighting-age group, women out-number men.

Russia isn't the badass they think they are. Or you think they are. They're just big enough and powerful enough to be a problem if we don't do something about it.

All they have anymore is their Nukes. Which should frighten any sane person.

Remember -- All this started over promises made by Bill The Rapist Clinton trying to get a 'non-proliferation' star on his Report Card.

I wonder how Kim Jong Un and the Mullahs are viewing the bullshit in Ukraine. Or are you fine with them and their Nukes? Real trustworthy types there, huh?

 

[Meister]

Trump wanted the minerals to continue funding the war. That would have ended with us involved.

No he didn't, he wanted the minerals to help rebuild Ukraine's infrastructure.
You really weren't listening too close.

 

[pknopp]

No he didn't, he wanted the minerals to help rebuild Ukraine's infrastructure.
You really weren't listening too close.

If they are worth what Trump claims (which is questionable), Ukraine doesn't need our help to exploit them.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Trump should get us out of the UN completely and make them move the headquarters to Brussels.

He won't do that, the US has always relied on the UN as a means for it to veto decisions about global issues that it want's to thwart, leaving the UN would be shooting itself in the foot - having said that, I wouldn't put it past trump top be that stupid.

The UN does nothing negative at all to the US so why leave?

 

[Rawley]

Trump wanted the minerals to continue funding the war. That would have ended with us involved.

No. He wanted the agreement to see that we get paid back for the hundreds of billions we paid out and to provide Ukraine with some sort of security.

 

[WelfareQueen]

It sure isn't to coddle Poootin and speak his words. trump nearly got teary eyed when he spoke of all the pain he an Poootin endured during Russiagate. Poor Vlad....

So what is the Dim Plan to end the war. I'll wait.

 

[JimH52]

I'm good with lifting sanctions everywhere.

I bet you are!

 

[Rawley]

If they are worth what Trump claims (which is questionable), Ukraine doesn't need our help to exploit them.

They do not have the expertise or the technology. It was a win/win. The little moron flushed that down the toilet with his petulant child act yesterday.