Stalin, Communism and the left wing

[thanatos144]

Stalin, Communism, Socialism, Liberals, Democrats, and the National Socialists German Workers Party (NAZI's).


Yes, the American Socialists, the Democrats are no different than Stalin or other socialists, such as Hitler.

Socialists literally destroy the World, from famine to extreme pollution, Socialism is the disease.

Socialism needs to be eradicated, destroyed, like a weed, like a disease.

Have you got your anger out of your system now?

This, however, is a debate board and not an anger management program.

I figured I would at least put all these different terms for the same kind of people together, it serves a purpose, it identifies those like yourself, who will not discuss the facts, and instead begin with an attack.

So what offends you so much, that Socialists are known throughout history as those who hate and destroy and that the Democrats are very much of the same ilk.

You think you're using facts huh?

The East Germans were Socialists. They didn't have a famine, the Polish were Socialist, they didn't have a famine, the Hungarians were Socialist, they didn't have a famine. They didn't destroy the world, they didn't do anything.

You don't like Socialism. Nor do I.

However you talk about polluting the world

CO2 emissions per capita. The US is number 12 in the world although 2 of those 11 previous aren't actually countries.

Per capita greenhouse emissions

The US is 7th.

Damn those Socialists the Americans and their pollution.

Also the fact that you keep trying to equate the Nazis with Socialism when the only evidence presented was flimsy at best is incredible.

CO2 ain't pollution, idiot.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas. CO2 emissions are man made. Putting man made CO2 into the atmosphere is polluting the atmosphere. Get it?

Oh, and an insult. Good for you, showing how intellectual you really are.

thank you for proving that yes totalitarian acts are from the left with your ecocommunisim.

 

[elektra]

Stalin, Communism, Socialism, Liberals, Democrats, and the National Socialists German Workers Party (NAZI's).


Yes, the American Socialists, the Democrats are no different than Stalin or other socialists, such as Hitler.

Socialists literally destroy the World, from famine to extreme pollution, Socialism is the disease.

Socialism needs to be eradicated, destroyed, like a weed, like a disease.

Have you got your anger out of your system now?

This, however, is a debate board and not an anger management program.

I figured I would at least put all these different terms for the same kind of people together, it serves a purpose, it identifies those like yourself, who will not discuss the facts, and instead begin with an attack.

So what offends you so much, that Socialists are known throughout history as those who hate and destroy and that the Democrats are very much of the same ilk.

You think you're using facts huh?

The East Germans were Socialists. They didn't have a famine, the Polish were Socialist, they didn't have a famine, the Hungarians were Socialist, they didn't have a famine. They didn't destroy the world, they didn't do anything.

You don't like Socialism. Nor do I.

However you talk about polluting the world

CO2 emissions per capita. The US is number 12 in the world although 2 of those 11 previous aren't actually countries.

Per capita greenhouse emissions

The US is 7th.

Damn those Socialists the Americans and their pollution.

Also the fact that you keep trying to equate the Nazis with Socialism when the only evidence presented was flimsy at best is incredible.

CO2 ain't pollution, idiot.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas. CO2 emissions are man made. Putting man made CO2 into the atmosphere is polluting the atmosphere. Get it?

Oh, and an insult. Good for you), showing how intellectual you really are.

CO2, Carbon and 2 molecules of Oxygen occur naturally.

There is zero proof of your ridiculous idea that CO2 causes warming. When I say zero proof that is fact, no experiments, no observed or measured heat from one single molecule of CO2.

Further, calling you an idiot is or moron is not personal, its meant to reflect the content of your post.

 

[thanatos144]

Have you got your anger out of your system now?

This, however, is a debate board and not an anger management program.

I figured I would at least put all these different terms for the same kind of people together, it serves a purpose, it identifies those like yourself, who will not discuss the facts, and instead begin with an attack.

So what offends you so much, that Socialists are known throughout history as those who hate and destroy and that the Democrats are very much of the same ilk.

You think you're using facts huh?

The East Germans were Socialists. They didn't have a famine, the Polish were Socialist, they didn't have a famine, the Hungarians were Socialist, they didn't have a famine. They didn't destroy the world, they didn't do anything.

You don't like Socialism. Nor do I.

However you talk about polluting the world

CO2 emissions per capita. The US is number 12 in the world although 2 of those 11 previous aren't actually countries.

Per capita greenhouse emissions

The US is 7th.

Damn those Socialists the Americans and their pollution.

Also the fact that you keep trying to equate the Nazis with Socialism when the only evidence presented was flimsy at best is incredible.

CO2 ain't pollution, idiot.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas. CO2 emissions are man made. Putting man made CO2 into the atmosphere is polluting the atmosphere. Get it?

Oh, and an insult. Good for you), showing how intellectual you really are.

CO2, Carbon and 2 molecules of Oxygen occur naturally.

There is zero proof of your ridiculous idea that CO2 causes warming. When I say zero proof that is fact, no experiments, no observed or measured heat from one single molecule of CO2.

Further, calling you an idiot is or moron is not personal, its meant to reflect the content of your post.

But But But Al Gore told them about a hockey stick!!!!!!

 

[kaz]

Fascinating largely because quite a few extremely right-wing posters argued against the classic dictionary definition of Fascism of being an extreme right-wing ideology

Yes, the "dictionary" definition which said that Hitler didn't know what he was when he was head of the socialist party. As for me, I'm "extremely right wing" fiscally, but extremely left wing in social and military. Once again, you love to label yet do it poorly.

Anyway, take up Hitler being a socialist with him since he said he was and he ran a government that controlled the economy.

 

[kaz]

There were 2 factions of the communist party in Russia. Stalin led the right wing camp and Trotsky led the left wing camp.

The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering.

What I find amazing is that conservatives in America are totally unaware that conservatism exists in ALL societies.

Well, that you consider Stalin to be conservative certainly demonstrates some awareness of where you are on the political spectrum.

 

[elektra]

I figured I would at least put all these different terms for the same kind of people together, it serves a purpose, it identifies those like yourself, who will not discuss the facts, and instead begin with an attack.

So what offends you so much, that Socialists are known throughout history as those who hate and destroy and that the Democrats are very much of the same ilk.

You think you're using facts huh?

The East Germans were Socialists. They didn't have a famine, the Polish were Socialist, they didn't have a famine, the Hungarians were Socialist, they didn't have a famine. They didn't destroy the world, they didn't do anything.

You don't like Socialism. Nor do I.

However you talk about polluting the world

CO2 emissions per capita. The US is number 12 in the world although 2 of those 11 previous aren't actually countries.

Per capita greenhouse emissions

The US is 7th.

Damn those Socialists the Americans and their pollution.

Also the fact that you keep trying to equate the Nazis with Socialism when the only evidence presented was flimsy at best is incredible.

CO2 ain't pollution, idiot.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas. CO2 emissions are man made. Putting man made CO2 into the atmosphere is polluting the atmosphere. Get it?

Oh, and an insult. Good for you), showing how intellectual you really are.

CO2, Carbon and 2 molecules of Oxygen occur naturally.

There is zero proof of your ridiculous idea that CO2 causes warming. When I say zero proof that is fact, no experiments, no observed or measured heat from one single molecule of CO2.

Further, calling you an idiot is or moron is not personal, its meant to reflect the content of your post.

But But But Al Gore told them about a hockey stick!!!!!!

It really is a great scheme, in california. We can no longer afford a hot shower, my solar water heater only gets the water luke warm. A third world shower at best, further, I can not afford a long shower, just a quick shower.

All over the state, we do not flush our toilets, just like not having a toilet, just like the third world.

Under the Energy policies of Democrats, the United States of America is suffering, we no longer have the energy to make electricity, we must use more oil, not less. And this is after 30 years of constant construction

But the Democrats have social programs to help, We have a social program to pay for the water that the poor use, We have a social program to pay for the electricity the poor use.

Of course, a family of four who makes 44k a year is poor. Not middle class.

The left wing obviously does not read history, they seem to believe their tired ideas will work this time. They do not believe they will fail.

Yet the Nazi's, Stalin, and all the rest of the Communist left wing that failed and literally resulted in a 100 million deaths.

Democrats, Liberals, the Left Wing, are all pompous, arrogant, under-educated idiots.

.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Have you got your anger out of your system now?

This, however, is a debate board and not an anger management program.

I figured I would at least put all these different terms for the same kind of people together, it serves a purpose, it identifies those like yourself, who will not discuss the facts, and instead begin with an attack.

So what offends you so much, that Socialists are known throughout history as those who hate and destroy and that the Democrats are very much of the same ilk.

You think you're using facts huh?

The East Germans were Socialists. They didn't have a famine, the Polish were Socialist, they didn't have a famine, the Hungarians were Socialist, they didn't have a famine. They didn't destroy the world, they didn't do anything.

You don't like Socialism. Nor do I.

However you talk about polluting the world

CO2 emissions per capita. The US is number 12 in the world although 2 of those 11 previous aren't actually countries.

Per capita greenhouse emissions

The US is 7th.

Damn those Socialists the Americans and their pollution.

Also the fact that you keep trying to equate the Nazis with Socialism when the only evidence presented was flimsy at best is incredible.

CO2 ain't pollution, idiot.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas. CO2 emissions are man made. Putting man made CO2 into the atmosphere is polluting the atmosphere. Get it?

Oh, and an insult. Good for you, showing how intellectual you really are.

thank you for proving that yes totalitarian acts are from the left with your ecocommunisim.

Oh, I thought you had something to say. End of discussion because it reached ridiculous point.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Have you got your anger out of your system now?

This, however, is a debate board and not an anger management program.

I figured I would at least put all these different terms for the same kind of people together, it serves a purpose, it identifies those like yourself, who will not discuss the facts, and instead begin with an attack.

So what offends you so much, that Socialists are known throughout history as those who hate and destroy and that the Democrats are very much of the same ilk.

You think you're using facts huh?

The East Germans were Socialists. They didn't have a famine, the Polish were Socialist, they didn't have a famine, the Hungarians were Socialist, they didn't have a famine. They didn't destroy the world, they didn't do anything.

You don't like Socialism. Nor do I.

However you talk about polluting the world

CO2 emissions per capita. The US is number 12 in the world although 2 of those 11 previous aren't actually countries.

Per capita greenhouse emissions

The US is 7th.

Damn those Socialists the Americans and their pollution.

Also the fact that you keep trying to equate the Nazis with Socialism when the only evidence presented was flimsy at best is incredible.

CO2 ain't pollution, idiot.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas. CO2 emissions are man made. Putting man made CO2 into the atmosphere is polluting the atmosphere. Get it?

Oh, and an insult. Good for you), showing how intellectual you really are.

CO2, Carbon and 2 molecules of Oxygen occur naturally.

There is zero proof of your ridiculous idea that CO2 causes warming. When I say zero proof that is fact, no experiments, no observed or measured heat from one single molecule of CO2.

Further, calling you an idiot is or moron is not personal, its meant to reflect the content of your post.

Did you read what I wrote?

CO2 is a GREENHOUSE GAS. It just is. It's partly what keeps the earth warm. Are you denying the undeniable?

Greenhouse gas - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Here's a wiki page.

Greenhouse gas - Simple English Wikipedia the free encyclopedia Here it is in simple English, just in case.

Water Vapor is the most common greenhouse gas. It is also natural. makes up between 36% and 72% of the all greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

CO2 makes up between 9% and 26%. Also occurs naturally.

Methane, 4% - 9%. Also occurs naturally, and out of the asses of cows too.

Ozone O3, 3-7%, also occurs naturally.

All of them are extremely important for allowing life to thrive on earth. They occur naturally, they existed in the times of the dinosaurs, they exist now.

CO2 is actually one of the weakest greenhouse gases. There's a chart on that page that shows the strength as a greenhouse gas. They've put CO2 as the power of 1. Methane after 20 years is 72 times stronger, after 100 years 25 times stronger and after 500 years 7.6 times stronger. Sulfur Hexafloride is 16,300 times stronger than CO2 after 20 years.

So CO2 isn't actually that strong.

http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-chapter2.pdf

Here's the source.

As for CO2 causing global warming, well it's been helping to cause global warming and cooling for the past, I don't know, billion years or so.

Carbon dioxide in Earth s atmosphere - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"Despite its relatively small overall concentration, CO2 is a potentgreenhouse gas and plays a vital role in regulating Earth's surface temperature through radiative forcing and thegreenhouse effect: CO2 absorbs and emits infrared radiation at wavelengths of 4.26 µm (asymmetric stretchingvibrational mode) and 14.99 µm (bending vibrational mode)."

"Therefore, Earth wouldn't have a present-day biosphere without atmospheric CO2. Carbon dioxide is well mixed in the Earth's atmosphere and reconstructions show that concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere varied from as high as 7,000 parts per million during the Cambrian period about 500 million years ago in ancient-Earth biospheres to as low as 180 parts per million during the Quaternary glaciation of the last two million years."


So basically CO2 helps to produce the greenhouse effect. Other gases also help but CO2 is one of the main gases.

Here's a chart showing CO2 variation in the atmosphere.

Here's one with CO2 and temperature rises and falls.

Now, whether you think CO2 follows temperatures or temperatures follow CO2 makes very little difference here.

The reality is we know CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and we know when the levels rise temperatures rise too. Now, we're seeing CO2 levels rise above what they have been for the past 400,000 years, when our current climate, which allowed humans to thrive, started to take place. The Earth is becoming more stable, and this is the result.

Now, global warming exists, based on this chart we should be experiences a decline in temperatures. We're not. Global temperatures are rising. CO2 levels however have risen far above what could be expected, we know where it's coming from, we know what it does.

So if you pump a greenhouse gas into the atmosphere at more than double the normal rate, what's going to happen?

As for you second attempt at insulting. Serious?

You want to talk seriously or you just want a little primary school spat to make you feel better? If it's the latter then you can get lost and don't bother replying to any of my posts again.

 

[rdean]

When communists or fascist or any group that refuses opposition takes over, the first people they kill are those they consider "threats". Scientists, teachers, college professors and so on. The stupid people become their flock. In other words, all the best liberals are killed first. It's always been that way. Look how easily led the GOP base is. "Let him die?" Really?

 

[bripat9643]

The fact that they had "voting" is cute but immaterial. When there is only one choice is it really voting?

Well they probably had more than one choice, though everyone would have been from the same party but might have been from different factions.

However in the US how much choice is there? Everyone votes for two parties, who appear almost the same but spend their whole time making themselves look really different with issues that are of a lower level than the bread and butter of daily life.

I'm finding more similarities than I would like between the voting in the USSR and the USA.

There is more than a smidgen of truth to this statement. Slowly but surely the US is becoming a progressive nightmare. They have been working on dismantling this country for decades now. There is no doubt of that.

Problem is you seem to be blaming the wrong people.

You're actually supporting the people who are causing all the problems by playing the partisan game.

You're the people causing all the problem. Your theory that you aren't partisan is also a hoot.

 

[bripat9643]

Keep this handy, show it to a Progressive

Right Wing = minimum government, maximum individual Liberty

Left Wing = Maximum Government, minimum individual liberty

Maximum liberty = no abortions, no alcohol, no drugs, no jay-walking, no sex, no decent education, however there are lots of wars to scare you into accepting draconian measures with lots of spying, lots of controls on what you can and can't do.

Yeah right.

Wrong. That isn't what maximum liberty equals.

 

[bripat9643]

When communists or fascist or any group that refuses opposition takes over, the first people they kill are those they consider "threats". Scientists, teachers, college professors and so on. The stupid people become their flock. In other words, all the best liberals are killed first. It's always been that way. Look how easily led the GOP base is. "Let him die?" Really?

Liberals are the ones who "refuse" opposition.

 

[westwall]

I figured I would at least put all these different terms for the same kind of people together, it serves a purpose, it identifies those like yourself, who will not discuss the facts, and instead begin with an attack.

So what offends you so much, that Socialists are known throughout history as those who hate and destroy and that the Democrats are very much of the same ilk.

You think you're using facts huh?

The East Germans were Socialists. They didn't have a famine, the Polish were Socialist, they didn't have a famine, the Hungarians were Socialist, they didn't have a famine. They didn't destroy the world, they didn't do anything.

You don't like Socialism. Nor do I.

However you talk about polluting the world

CO2 emissions per capita. The US is number 12 in the world although 2 of those 11 previous aren't actually countries.

Per capita greenhouse emissions

The US is 7th.

Damn those Socialists the Americans and their pollution.

Also the fact that you keep trying to equate the Nazis with Socialism when the only evidence presented was flimsy at best is incredible.

CO2 ain't pollution, idiot.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas. CO2 emissions are man made. Putting man made CO2 into the atmosphere is polluting the atmosphere. Get it?

Oh, and an insult. Good for you), showing how intellectual you really are.

CO2, Carbon and 2 molecules of Oxygen occur naturally.

There is zero proof of your ridiculous idea that CO2 causes warming. When I say zero proof that is fact, no experiments, no observed or measured heat from one single molecule of CO2.

Further, calling you an idiot is or moron is not personal, its meant to reflect the content of your post.

Did you read what I wrote?

CO2 is a GREENHOUSE GAS. It just is. It's partly what keeps the earth warm. Are you denying the undeniable?

Greenhouse gas - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Here's a wiki page.

Greenhouse gas - Simple English Wikipedia the free encyclopedia Here it is in simple English, just in case.

Water Vapor is the most common greenhouse gas. It is also natural. makes up between 36% and 72% of the all greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

CO2 makes up between 9% and 26%. Also occurs naturally.

Methane, 4% - 9%. Also occurs naturally, and out of the asses of cows too.

Ozone O3, 3-7%, also occurs naturally.

All of them are extremely important for allowing life to thrive on earth. They occur naturally, they existed in the times of the dinosaurs, they exist now.

CO2 is actually one of the weakest greenhouse gases. There's a chart on that page that shows the strength as a greenhouse gas. They've put CO2 as the power of 1. Methane after 20 years is 72 times stronger, after 100 years 25 times stronger and after 500 years 7.6 times stronger. Sulfur Hexafloride is 16,300 times stronger than CO2 after 20 years.

So CO2 isn't actually that strong.

http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-chapter2.pdf

Here's the source.

As for CO2 causing global warming, well it's been helping to cause global warming and cooling for the past, I don't know, billion years or so.

Carbon dioxide in Earth s atmosphere - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"Despite its relatively small overall concentration, CO2 is a potentgreenhouse gas and plays a vital role in regulating Earth's surface temperature through radiative forcing and thegreenhouse effect: CO2 absorbs and emits infrared radiation at wavelengths of 4.26 µm (asymmetric stretchingvibrational mode) and 14.99 µm (bending vibrational mode)."

"Therefore, Earth wouldn't have a present-day biosphere without atmospheric CO2. Carbon dioxide is well mixed in the Earth's atmosphere and reconstructions show that concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere varied from as high as 7,000 parts per million during the Cambrian period about 500 million years ago in ancient-Earth biospheres to as low as 180 parts per million during the Quaternary glaciation of the last two million years."


So basically CO2 helps to produce the greenhouse effect. Other gases also help but CO2 is one of the main gases.

Here's a chart showing CO2 variation in the atmosphere.

Here's one with CO2 and temperature rises and falls.

Now, whether you think CO2 follows temperatures or temperatures follow CO2 makes very little difference here.

The reality is we know CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and we know when the levels rise temperatures rise too. Now, we're seeing CO2 levels rise above what they have been for the past 400,000 years, when our current climate, which allowed humans to thrive, started to take place. The Earth is becoming more stable, and this is the result.

Now, global warming exists, based on this chart we should be experiences a decline in temperatures. We're not. Global temperatures are rising. CO2 levels however have risen far above what could be expected, we know where it's coming from, we know what it does.

So if you pump a greenhouse gas into the atmosphere at more than double the normal rate, what's going to happen?

As for you second attempt at insulting. Serious?

You want to talk seriously or you just want a little primary school spat to make you feel better? If it's the latter then you can get lost and don't bother replying to any of my posts again.

CO2 is the weakest of the GHG's and also the one with the least amount of concentration in the atmosphere. It is a TRACE gas. It makes up less than one half of one percent of the total atmospheric mix, and mans contribution to that fantastically small number is less than five percent of that vanishingly small number.

Every bit of empirical evidence says that CO2 plays no part in the global temperature.

 

[Bfgrn]

There were 2 factions of the communist party in Russia. Stalin led the right wing camp and Trotsky led the left wing camp.

The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering.

What I find amazing is that conservatives in America are totally unaware that conservatism exists in ALL societies.

Well, that you consider Stalin to be conservative certainly demonstrates some awareness of where you are on the political spectrum.

Try something novel...educate yourself...

The Art of Conservatism Marxism According to Stalin

 

[bripat9643]

There were 2 factions of the communist party in Russia. Stalin led the right wing camp and Trotsky led the left wing camp.

The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering.

What I find amazing is that conservatives in America are totally unaware that conservatism exists in ALL societies.

Well, that you consider Stalin to be conservative certainly demonstrates some awareness of where you are on the political spectrum.

Try something novel...educate yourself...

The Art of Conservatism Marxism According to Stalin

Reading commie propaganda isn't "educating yourself." All you did by posting that is prove that you're a commie.

 

[Bfgrn]

There were 2 factions of the communist party in Russia. Stalin led the right wing camp and Trotsky led the left wing camp.

The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering.

What I find amazing is that conservatives in America are totally unaware that conservatism exists in ALL societies.

Well, that you consider Stalin to be conservative certainly demonstrates some awareness of where you are on the political spectrum.

Try something novel...educate yourself...

The Art of Conservatism Marxism According to Stalin

Reading commie propaganda isn't "educating yourself." All you did by posting that is prove that you're a commie.

Reading without reflecting is like eating without digesting.
Edmund Burke

Commie propaganda?

Here is the heading of the author...

The Art of Conservatism
"Soon the world will wake up and discover that conservatism is not only an economic and political doctrine, but it is also a way of life; an endeavor created to obtain a virtuous, noble cause based upon the beliefs and the ideals of free markets, free speech, and limited government... this is a lifestyle mankind could really get to like."

 

[bripat9643]

There were 2 factions of the communist party in Russia. Stalin led the right wing camp and Trotsky led the left wing camp.

The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering.

What I find amazing is that conservatives in America are totally unaware that conservatism exists in ALL societies.

Well, that you consider Stalin to be conservative certainly demonstrates some awareness of where you are on the political spectrum.

Try something novel...educate yourself...

The Art of Conservatism Marxism According to Stalin

Reading commie propaganda isn't "educating yourself." All you did by posting that is prove that you're a commie.

Reading without reflecting is like eating without digesting.
Edmund Burke

Commie propaganda?

Here is the heading of the author...

The Art of Conservatism
"Soon the world will wake up and discover that conservatism is not only an economic and political doctrine, but it is also a way of life; an endeavor created to obtain a virtuous, noble cause based upon the beliefs and the ideals of free markets, free speech, and limited government... this is a lifestyle mankind could really get to like."

That doesn't jive with the content of the blog which is an apology for Marxism.

 

[Bfgrn]

There were 2 factions of the communist party in Russia. Stalin led the right wing camp and Trotsky led the left wing camp.

The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering.

What I find amazing is that conservatives in America are totally unaware that conservatism exists in ALL societies.

Well, that you consider Stalin to be conservative certainly demonstrates some awareness of where you are on the political spectrum.

Try something novel...educate yourself...

The Art of Conservatism Marxism According to Stalin

Reading commie propaganda isn't "educating yourself." All you did by posting that is prove that you're a commie.

Reading without reflecting is like eating without digesting.
Edmund Burke

Commie propaganda?

Here is the heading of the author...

The Art of Conservatism
"Soon the world will wake up and discover that conservatism is not only an economic and political doctrine, but it is also a way of life; an endeavor created to obtain a virtuous, noble cause based upon the beliefs and the ideals of free markets, free speech, and limited government... this is a lifestyle mankind could really get to like."

That doesn't jive with the content of the blog which is an apology for Marxism.

There is no apology for Marxism. There is just a clear explanation that Stalin was no Marxist, there was no socialism in Russia, and that Stalin led the right wing of the communist party.

 

[bripat9643]

Well, that you consider Stalin to be conservative certainly demonstrates some awareness of where you are on the political spectrum.

Try something novel...educate yourself...

The Art of Conservatism Marxism According to Stalin

Reading commie propaganda isn't "educating yourself." All you did by posting that is prove that you're a commie.

Reading without reflecting is like eating without digesting.
Edmund Burke

Commie propaganda?

Here is the heading of the author...

The Art of Conservatism
"Soon the world will wake up and discover that conservatism is not only an economic and political doctrine, but it is also a way of life; an endeavor created to obtain a virtuous, noble cause based upon the beliefs and the ideals of free markets, free speech, and limited government... this is a lifestyle mankind could really get to like."

That doesn't jive with the content of the blog which is an apology for Marxism.

There is no apology for Marxism. There is just a clear explanation that Stalin was no Marxist, there was no socialism in Russia, and that Stalin led the right wing of the communist party.

In other words, the article was an apology for Marxism. The "right-wing" of the communist party is still far to the left of Barry Obama or even Elanor Holmes Norton. The fact that marxists disagree is hardly surprising, but that doesn't prove Stalin wasn't a Marxists. Socialists have been making war on each other for over 100 years.

 

[elektra]

I figured I would at least put all these different terms for the same kind of people together, it serves a purpose, it identifies those like yourself, who will not discuss the facts, and instead begin with an attack.

So what offends you so much, that Socialists are known throughout history as those who hate and destroy and that the Democrats are very much of the same ilk.

You think you're using facts huh?

The East Germans were Socialists. They didn't have a famine, the Polish were Socialist, they didn't have a famine, the Hungarians were Socialist, they didn't have a famine. They didn't destroy the world, they didn't do anything.

You don't like Socialism. Nor do I.

However you talk about polluting the world

CO2 emissions per capita. The US is number 12 in the world although 2 of those 11 previous aren't actually countries.

Per capita greenhouse emissions

The US is 7th.

Damn those Socialists the Americans and their pollution.

Also the fact that you keep trying to equate the Nazis with Socialism when the only evidence presented was flimsy at best is incredible.

CO2 ain't pollution, idiot.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas. CO2 emissions are man made. Putting man made CO2 into the atmosphere is polluting the atmosphere. Get it?

Oh, and an insult. Good for you), showing how intellectual you really are.

CO2, Carbon and 2 molecules of Oxygen occur naturally.

There is zero proof of your ridiculous idea that CO2 causes warming. When I say zero proof that is fact, no experiments, no observed or measured heat from one single molecule of CO2.

Further, calling you an idiot is or moron is not personal, its meant to reflect the content of your post.

Did you read what I wrote?

CO2 is a GREENHOUSE GAS. It just is. It's partly what keeps the earth warm. Are you denying the undeniable?

Greenhouse gas - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Here's a wiki page.

Greenhouse gas - Simple English Wikipedia the free encyclopedia Here it is in simple English, just in case.

Water Vapor is the most common greenhouse gas. It is also natural. makes up between 36% and 72% of the all greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

CO2 makes up between 9% and 26%. Also occurs naturally.

Methane, 4% - 9%. Also occurs naturally, and out of the asses of cows too.

Ozone O3, 3-7%, also occurs naturally.

All of them are extremely important for allowing life to thrive on earth. They occur naturally, they existed in the times of the dinosaurs, they exist now.

CO2 is actually one of the weakest greenhouse gases. There's a chart on that page that shows the strength as a greenhouse gas. They've put CO2 as the power of 1. Methane after 20 years is 72 times stronger, after 100 years 25 times stronger and after 500 years 7.6 times stronger. Sulfur Hexafloride is 16,300 times stronger than CO2 after 20 years.

So CO2 isn't actually that strong.

http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-chapter2.pdf

Here's the source.

As for CO2 causing global warming, well it's been helping to cause global warming and cooling for the past, I don't know, billion years or so.

Carbon dioxide in Earth s atmosphere - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"Despite its relatively small overall concentration, CO2 is a potentgreenhouse gas and plays a vital role in regulating Earth's surface temperature through radiative forcing and thegreenhouse effect: CO2 absorbs and emits infrared radiation at wavelengths of 4.26 µm (asymmetric stretchingvibrational mode) and 14.99 µm (bending vibrational mode)."

"Therefore, Earth wouldn't have a present-day biosphere without atmospheric CO2. Carbon dioxide is well mixed in the Earth's atmosphere and reconstructions show that concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere varied from as high as 7,000 parts per million during the Cambrian period about 500 million years ago in ancient-Earth biospheres to as low as 180 parts per million during the Quaternary glaciation of the last two million years."


So basically CO2 helps to produce the greenhouse effect. Other gases also help but CO2 is one of the main gases.

Here's a chart showing CO2 variation in the atmosphere.

Here's one with CO2 and temperature rises and falls.

Now, whether you think CO2 follows temperatures or temperatures follow CO2 makes very little difference here.

The reality is we know CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and we know when the levels rise temperatures rise too. Now, we're seeing CO2 levels rise above what they have been for the past 400,000 years, when our current climate, which allowed humans to thrive, started to take place. The Earth is becoming more stable, and this is the result.

Now, global warming exists, based on this chart we should be experiences a decline in temperatures. We're not. Global temperatures are rising. CO2 levels however have risen far above what could be expected, we know where it's coming from, we know what it does.

So if you pump a greenhouse gas into the atmosphere at more than double the normal rate, what's going to happen?

As for you second attempt at insulting. Serious?

You want to talk seriously or you just want a little primary school spat to make you feel better? If it's the latter then you can get lost and don't bother replying to any of my posts again.

It's your opinion. "Study says" is not fact.