Zone1 St Paul said not to pray for those in mortal sin (abortionists, adulterers, pornographers, fornicators)

[zaangalewa]

The false doctrine of Transubstantiation is contrary to Bible language.

Whooow. Did you ever try to speak out the word "Transsubstantiation" in German or Latin? Then you will see: English is indeed a much more easy language.

When Jesus said, "I am the bread," (John 6:41) did He mean literal bread? Remember, as argued by supporters of this doctrine, He didn't say, "I am a representation of bread."

Question: Is Jesus a representation of Jesus? So where is your problem to see within a piece of consecrated bread the real spirit/presence of Jesus the Christ re-presented in the present presence of yourselve while visting a church service? That's your chance to meet - ah sorry: to eat - Jesus. And how the bread becomes part of your body his spirit becomes part of your spirit, your soul.

 

[zaangalewa]

luiza

Sometimes I have the feeling you could not love me, Russian. 5x "fake news" within such a short time?

 

[alang1216]

whatever. You're just a person full of malice, not an honest enquirer after truth.

Not malice, just curiosity. Malice would be saying that someone's beliefs are wrong.

The CHURCH Christ founded defines what mortal and venial sin is. If you don't want to believe like a Catholic, that is your choice. But there is only ONE true Church

Is there only one? The Roman Catholic Church traces it roots to the original Church of Rome but so does almost every other Christian church, including Orthodox, Protestant, Mormon, etc. None are the same as the original Church of Rome so how can one claim to be the 'true' one?

 

[alang1216]

sin is sin.

No doubt. My only question is 'Who determines what is sin?'.

 

[hadit]

Jesus told us to "eat" Him

I guess you haven't read St John in the Bible? Chapter 6:27-72 (if I recall)

Also, it is protestants who set aside the Law of the Lord..

But I get it that it's been a LONG time (500+ years) since the only Christian Church in the entire world was the Catholic Church (still is the only one), so I see why so many are lost, in false religions or no religion.

Jesus told us to wash each other's feet. When was the last time you did that?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Gallup says:

"..nearly twice as many pro-[abortion] voters (40%) as pro-life voters (22%) say they will only vote for a candidate who agrees with them on abortion."


Me: Well, this ties in quite neatly (unfortunately) with a comment I made elsewhere about how this country did not deserve to be saved from the demonic ones by Trump/Vance --due to excess perversion, lawlessness, murdering the unborn, and generally ditching Jesus Christ in their lives..

This information on America's views on abortion proves my point in spades.

I guess I'm supposed to pray for the pro abortion people, even though I feel like slapping them (and worse).

But wait... There's that scripture that makes the distinction btwn mortal and venial sin. St Paul says to pray for those guilty of the latter but as to the former, the ones living in mortal sin he says

"I do not say pray for them"



Here is that psg

He that knoweth his brother to sin a sin which is not to death, let him ask, and life shall be given to him, who sinneth not to death. There is a sin unto death: for that I say not that any man ask.

1 John 5:16

That's not what that passage actually says

 

[forkintheroad7]

While we cannot pray FOR those in unrepented mortal sin

We can pray against them... right?

lol

All joking aside, though, we should all be praying that the crazies, the demonrats all get KOd out of the deep state. . and anywhere else they are found

 

[Arlette]

Gallup says:

"..nearly twice as many pro-[abortion] voters (40%) as pro-life voters (22%) say they will only vote for a candidate who agrees with them on abortion."


Me: Well, this ties in quite neatly (unfortunately) with a comment I made elsewhere about how this country did not deserve to be saved from the demonic ones by Trump/Vance --due to excess perversion, lawlessness, murdering the unborn, and generally ditching Jesus Christ in their lives..

This information on America's views on abortion proves my point in spades.

I guess I'm supposed to pray for the pro abortion people, even though I feel like slapping them (and worse).

But wait... There's that scripture that makes the distinction btwn mortal and venial sin. St Paul says to pray for those guilty of the latter but as to the former, the ones living in mortal sin he says

"I do not say pray for them"



Here is that psg

He that knoweth his brother to sin a sin which is not to death, let him ask, and life shall be given to him, who sinneth not to death. There is a sin unto death: for that I say not that any man ask.

1 John 5:16

Praying is a waste of time

 

[Mashmont]

The false doctrine of Transubstantiation is contrary to Bible language. Remember, the supporters of this doctrine often argue: "He [Christ] didn't say it's a representation of his body and blood." So, we will now apply this faulty "reasoning" to other of Christ's statements found in the Scriptures and see how they weigh:

• When Jesus said, "I am the bread," (John 6:41) did He mean literal bread? Remember, as argued by supporters of this doctrine, He didn't say, "I am a representation of bread."
  
  
• When Jesus said, "I am the vine," (John 15:5) was He a literal vine? He didn't say, "I am a representation of a vine." Therefore, if Christ was a literal vine, then His disciples had to be literal branches, because He said, "I am the vine, ye are the branches."
  
  
• When Jesus said, "I am the door," (John 10:7,9) was He a literal door? He didn't say, "I am a representation of a door."
  
  
• When Jesus said, "I am the good shepherd,"(John 10:11,12) was He a literal shepherd? He didn't say, "I am a representation of a shepherd." We might also ask, were the "sheep," the "shepherd," and the "wolf" mentioned in these verses literal or figurative?
  
  
• When Jesus taught, in Matthew 5:13-14, "Ye are the light of the world," did He mean the disciples were literal lights? If so, I wonder what kind--candles, lamps, torches, etc. Remember, He didn't say, "Ye are a representation of light."
  
  
• When Jesus said, "Ye are the salt of the earth," did He mean they were table salt, rock salt, kosher salt, or block salt? Which? Let them tell us. Remember, He didn't say, "Ye are a representation of salt."

By using Catholicism's own faulty "reasoning," it is easy to show the foolishness and fallacy of such quibbles. In the passages cited above, Jesus used figures of speech (metaphors) in His teachings, just as He did when He instituted the memorial supper.

Interesting you think you are qualified to change centuries of dogma from Jesus’ church teaching. The so-called reformationists changed the longstanding requirement of unmarried clergy to suit their own personal desires. Every of the Protestant sect founders got married. They changed requirements wholesale. Today, they have left moral principles of the Church entirely, making everything more permissive and less stringent. This is the way of man, not of God. You go into a Protestant Church, and it feels like a Social Hall, empty of anything sacred. People talking in normal voices, even yelling across the room. Enter a Catholic Church and it feels sacred. People whisper. The Body of Christbis present.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Interesting you think you are qualified to change centuries of dogma from Jesus’ church teaching. The so-called reformationists changed the longstanding requirement of unmarried clergy to suit their own personal desires. Every of the Protestant sect founders got married. They changed requirements wholesale. Today, they have left moral principles of the Church entirely, making everything more permissive and less stringent. This is the way of man, not of God. You go into a Protestant Church, and it feels like a Social Hall, empty of anything sacred. People talking in normal voices, even yelling across the room. Enter a Catholic Church and it feels sacred. People whisper. The Body of Christbis present.

I notice, and not surprisingly, that no one has responded to this. But it's an excellent point. I used to be somewhat "protestant" (even though I never denied the Catholic Faith (to speak of) in the sense that I once thought that following Jesus was pretty straightforward and one did not have to have a theology degree to do so, which is somewhat true. And yet there are many scriptures and Church teachings that are not easy for a lay person to fully understand. That is one reason Christ founded a Church, to teach us what Scripture really is saying (when it is not written in language a 7 year old can u/stand). The Sacraments are a reason also. But human pride asserts itself and says "I don't need anyone telling me what Scripture says... don't need no *&^% Church or pope either.."