kyzr
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There is a video (post #189) showing the protesters walking thru the gate and noticing that the McClosky's were armed. Then that set off the protesters and the incident began. Didn't show them breaking thru the gate.MArtin was standing his ground. If he was old enough to have a Carry permit he could have shot Zimmerman and claimed self defense via SYG.That's a tough question for me.Missouri is a "stand your ground" state. People have the right to defend their home and property, period.
View attachment 357308Stand-your-ground law - Wikipedia
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Even though the Leftist MSM wants legal action against the McClosky's for threatening "peaceful protestors", the law is on their side.Couple pointing guns at protesters unlikely to face charges, law professor says
Could the gun-wielding attorneys find themselves in legal trouble? Not likely, according to one St. Louis law professorwww.ksdk.com
Do you support "stand your ground laws"? (poll)
I do not think it applies to this situation as no one was shot.
But IMO if anyone fires in self defense then that person must prove not only that he thought his safety was in danger but also why.
And the bias in the SYG laws that assume the person with the gun was not the aggressor is a tough hill to climb.
Let's say some guy was tailing you in a car for blocks, then got out of that car and started chasing you.
Let's also say that you are unarmed. Does the fact that a strange person was following you, stalking even rise to the SYG standards of feeling threatened?
If you are unarmed and you attack the person who has been stalking you because you perceived that as a threat to your safety, do you have the right to attack first even if you are unarmed? Should the primary aggressor ( the stalker) who shot the unarmed person who was standing his ground be the presumed victim?
1. Its an easy question, "self-defense" is legal
2. Read the Laws on "stand your ground" and the "castle doctrine" again, here is a link
3. If you "perceive" a threat on your property you can kill it. Your lawyer will prove what needs proving.Stand-your-ground law - Wikipedia
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4. The laws are not "biased" except in some democrat areas, living in democrat area is your stupid fault.
5. If the stalker is chasing you, you have the right to defend yourself. Read the first sentence of the above link again.
6. If the stalker shoots the unarmed victim who was "standing his ground" trying to defend himself from an armed attacker, that's called murder. I'm sure that videos will be found documenting the aggressive murder. A better question is, why was the victim unarmed? Obviously a fatal error in judgment.
I know the SD laws. I have a CCW permit so I did my due diligence
So then in line with your reasoning here, Trayvon Martin had the right to attack George Zimmerman after all Zimmerman was stalking him and I think any reasonable person would think a stalker presented a threat to his safety..
So how come the SYG law wasn't applied to Martin instead of Zimmerman even though Zimmerman was the person stalking him?
And whether or not the victim in unarmed is irrelevant. Maybe he was too young to get a carry permit should that matter?
Stand Your Ground wasn't a factor in that case. Martin was the attacker in any case.
Zimmerman was the aggressor
If a person was following you in a car for blocks then got out to chase you would you think your safety was in jeopardy?
I sure as hell would.
Zimmerman ignored a lawful order by the police
You can't instigate a situation then claim self defense.
No.....Martin was not standing his ground......he was free and clear of Zimmerman....as the girl in court stated.....from the phone conversation she said Martin said he lost the Homo cracker somewhere in the complex.........there was no Stand Your Ground issue...he circled back and attacked Zimmerman.
Because Zimmerman was obviously a threat as exhibited by his stalking.
Where I grew up if some asshole was tailing me in a car for blocks then got out and started chasing me Sure as fucking shit I would be fearing for my safety.
You don't have to be armed in order to stop what you perceive as a threat to your safety
You dumb shit.......Martin told the girl on the phone he lost the guy in the complex....she testified to that under oath....the prosecution put her on the stand, not the defense.....so he could have simply walked the short distance to his father's home and been done with it...
He circled back and attacked Zimmerman.....
Yeah I'm not going to believe hearsay.
And no one saw the beginning of the altercation