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Spy Balloon

Should the Biden admin have shot down the wayward Chinese spy balloon currently traversing the US?

  • Yes, spy balloons should NOT be allowed in US airspace.

    Votes: 32 91.4%
  • No. (state your reason)

    Votes: 3 8.6%

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"Department of Defense" under Potatohead as the Commander in Chief and his merry little band of queers and transsexuals have about as much credibility as Pee Wee Herman. Remember all the other lies we have heard from the Potatohead administration?

Especially after the security advisors under Trump said it never happen. Even John Bolton who is no supporter of Trump.

The security advisors that are all proven liars, and foreign policy failures?

I'll take DOD's word on this one.

Michael Flynn was also an advisor under Trump, and he is now a proven traitor, like the traitor he served under.

It was an entire administration of traitors. Now that's been revealed the balloons weren't discovered until after Trump left office. What else are we going to keep finding out about this traitors failed administration?

Like how much he got for all of the top secret documents he took home with him. And probably still has in other locations.

And we still don't know what he gave China for Ivankas 13 patents they have never given to anyone.

The investigations into the Trump crime family will be continuing for a long time.
 

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The security advisors that are all proven liars, and foreign policy failures?

I'll take DOD's word on this one.

Michael Flynn was also an advisor under Trump, and he is now a proven traitor, like the traitor he served under.

It was an entire administration of traitors. Now that's been revealed the balloons weren't discovered until after Trump left office. What else are we going to keep finding out about this traitors failed administration?

Like how much he got for all of the top secret documents he took home with him. And probably still has in other locations.

And we still don't know what he gave China for Ivankas 13 patents they have never given to anyone.

The investigations into the Trump crime family will be continuing for a long time.
And the Biden crime family investigations are starting now.

PS - you have no evidence that Trump "took" any documents home, or even was aware that they had left the White House. Not a shred.
 

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And the Biden crime family investigations are starting now.

PS - you have no evidence that Trump "took" any documents home, or even was aware that they had left the White House. Not a shred.

Actually no investigations are starting. A congressional oversight committee has no power. Especially this one, who’s trumped up results go into Merrick Garlands trash can.

And the evidence if Trump taking, moving, and concealing top secret documents has already been shown ad nauseum.

You need to pick up your trolling game chief.
 

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And the Biden crime family investigations are starting now.

PS - you have no evidence that Trump "took" any documents home, or even was aware that they had left the White House. Not a shred.

Trump claimed that the documents belonged to him. He claimed they were planted by the FBI. He claimed he declassified them in his mind. What is wrong with you?
 

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Looks like team Biden has been busy at work on that Balloons over Trump Admin stories to take the heat off President Taterhead..



Now as I pointed out this claim had some problems: anonymous source, and no description of the nature of the incursions.

Then on Sunday, that claim evolved to say that the prior incursions had been “undetected” and that it wasn’t the Biden DOD saying it, but the intelligence community, according to a “senior Biden administration official.” But as I noted that raised even more questions. How could a slow-moving balloon be “undetected”? The military should be able to pick up such things. Were these real “incursions” if they say this wasn’t like what happened in the past week? How could the IC be detecting this now, if the military didn’t detect it back then? Upon what are they basing that assessment?

Perhaps most important, if this was true and not just gaslighting, is that it raises concerns for national security if there are incursions not being detected. Trump can only respond if it’s detected and he’s told by the military. But if this was true, it suggested a huge hole in our defense.


Now the narrative has been updated again, to the Biden team claiming “this information was discovered after the [Trump] administration left.”

So now this adds another wrinkle to the story. How was this “discovered” if it wasn’t detected previously? Assuming this wasn’t just all gaslighting by the Biden official, what we may have here is something leaking information that they shouldn’t be leaking. Are they saying they picked this up based on spying they did on the Chinese? If so, whoops, the Biden team just revealed that.

On top of that, why are we telling the Chinese that these incursions weren’t detected? Unless they’ve plugged whatever hole there was here, why would you be advertising that and spilling this, just to help dampen the week’s backlash against Joe Biden?

It should also now be noted that the “official” said that the incursion that happened four months ago near Hawaii was also “undetected.” Officials indicated prior incursions during the Trump involved Florida and Texas. But you can’t react if you aren’t told.


Freakin. Lyin' LEFT. LOLOLOL You guys on the left...you're killin' yourselves. LOL
 

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I do not think it was by accident, he choose them.

And now you are saying it is because he was so incompetent and ignorant that he did not know they were deep staters. We all knew, how is it that he did not?
LOL.....tell me about His limited supply of proven DC 'advisors'.
Not say saying He was incompetent , just trick f**ked by the deep state.
And it looks like I am right.
 

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From what the general says, biden didn't order that balloon to be shot down on wednesday. Looks like he didn't order it till Friday am...and then they started coming out with the 'TruMP DID IT FIRST" lies.


This guy couldn't tell the truth if it bit him in the ass.
 

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1) What intel can they get that they can’t get from satellites? You didn’t answer this. You just repeated yourself and dropped a funny rating.

2) If they were spying on us with those balloons, then we will determine that from the wreckage and it will escalate tensions between us and China. I fail to see why they would want to do that, knowing that we could just shoot it down and determine their intentions to spy on us if that were the case. Perhaps you can address this instead of spamming funny ratings.
President Biden has demonstrated that he is a weak president. They want to take full control of Taiwan. President Biden has said that we will use our military to defend Taiwan.

Yes, we COULD have shot down the balloon as it approached the Aleutian Islands, Alaska, baren parts of Canada, and Montana. But we did not. We allowed it to gather information at its leisure and complete its mission.

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You might also recall that Sen. Dianne Feinstein's chauffeur for 20 years was a Chinese spy.

Then there is Eric Swalwell's mistress Fang Fang who escaped back to China.

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If you don't believe that China's goal is to annex the United States, you're a fool.
 

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President Biden has demonstrated that he is a weak president. They want to take full control of Taiwan. President Biden has said that we will use our military to defend Taiwan.

Yes, we COULD have shot down the balloon as it approached the Aleutian Islands, Alaska, baren parts of Canada, and Montana. But we did not. We allowed it to gather information at its leisure and complete its mission.
Assuming it was in fact a spy balloon, which we don’t know, which was the entire fucking argument that you lost track of.

Don’t forget the dislike rating.
 

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LOL.....tell me about His limited supply of proven DC 'advisors'.
Not say saying He was incompetent , just trick f**ked by the deep state.
And it looks like I am right.

Why did his advisors have to be from DC?

When he started he had a good number of outsiders in his admin, then within 2 years pretty much all were replaced by deep staters.

And you only defense of the man is he was too fucking stupid to know what pretty much everyone on this forum knew.

Pathetic.
 

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Just to name a few of the ones at the top

Barr and Wray for sure, the others I think not. By the way, deepstaters are mostly not elected or appointed politicians.
 

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Assuming it was in fact a spy balloon, which we don’t know, which was the entire fucking argument that you lost track of.

Don’t forget the dislike rating.
of course it was a spy balloon, even Biden has acknowledged that fact.
 

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Barr and Wray for sure, the others I think not. By the way, deepstaters are mostly not elected or appointed politicians.

So, none of these people you listed are elected politicians?

Gore? no, Gates? no. Kochs? no, Schumer? no, Pelosi?
 

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So, none of these people you listed are elected politicians?

Gore? no, Gates? no. Kochs? no, Schumer? no, Pelosi?
did you miss the word "mostly"? Yes, some of them are pols, obviously.
 

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Makes sense to me......probably not the socialists on this board.

Rubio says China flew balloon over US to send 'a message': They think America is 'in decline'

"The key part here is they knew exactly what they were doing and there was a message behind it," Rubio told ABC "This Week" co-anchor Jonathan Karl.

"They understood that it [the balloon] was going to be spotted, they knew the U.S. government would have to reveal it, that people were gonna see it over the sky. And the message they were trying to send is what they believe internally, and that is that the United States is a once-great superpower that's hollowed out, it's in decline," Rubio said.

"The message they're trying to send the world is, 'Look, these guys can't even do anything about a balloon flying over U.S. airspace. How can you possibly count on them if something were to happen in the Indo-Pacific region? ... How are they going to come to the aid of Taiwan or stand with the Philippines or Japan or India when the Chinese move on their territory?'" he said.
Yes that could be the assumptive thinking for sure, and the hallowed out part makes sense because we are a nation hiding behind military technology now, otherwise meaning that we aren't standing strong on principles and morals that would back up our military option with more intellectual Intel, and more God given patience to make proper assessments in anything we do.

Actually we have became a super dangerous nation without the patience to think properly when it comes to incidents or actions taken around the world, otherwise in order to help those who have always looked at us as the more cooler head's in the room.

Biden and company are a complete embarrassment to this nation, and hopefully if we are still here in two years, then we will have made it to 2024 in order to witness his rejection by the people who have seen and heard enough.
 

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That article addressed being not so easy to shoot down.

Regarding imagery, satellites are in an orbit with a limited loiter time over a target.

“Not only are they cheaper than launching satellites into space, but by operating within the bounds of the earth’s atmosphere, closer to the surface, they can obtain better quality images,” he added. The latest generation of balloons are high-tech in their own right, “envisaged as systems that can fly up to 90,000 feet” high, “deploy their own drone systems” and detect incoming missiles.

Balloons can soar above the range of most planes, Clarke said, and their slow speed means they aren’t always picked up by radar. Additional technology or paint can help to conceal them further.
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Satellites can provide high-resolution imagery, Clarke said — but balloons can stay over one area for longer periods than satellites, if the weather permits.


Yes, I'm thinking that it was for pure imagery purposes, and longer loitering time over it's target's of interest. Was probably data linked back to Beijing and instantly categorized for Intel purposes.

We must be aware that such Intel might be assessing the possibility of first strike scenario's, otherwise if such a thought or thinking is in play for the future.
 

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Wait a minute - Here's another thought - How many more international incident's will we see or experience, otherwise if they are occuring in order to try and take the heat off of Biden and his alledged past criminal activity ? Hmmmm.

So Beijing lost a so called spy BALOON or shall we call it a decoy maybe, otherwise hey (look over here, and not over there type of thing) ?

Hmmmm.
 

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