Sorry, liberals: Reagan and Bush 41 did not defy Congress with executive amnesty

[BluesLegend]

Lincoln used an executive order to protect and preserve the nation, Obama is using an executive order to side with foreigners jumping our borders, breaking our laws, killing and injuring our citizens...wtf?

 

[blackhawk]

You can't filibuster forever Blah Blah Blah.

Yes you can.

I'm sure you an example of someone doing so.

 

[candycorn]

Seriously...if an EO is unconstitutional it is unconstitutional whether it is popular or not. True?

 

[blackhawk]

Seriously...if an EO is unconstitutional it is unconstitutional whether it is popular or not. True?

Depends on how your trying to use it.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

As a fact of law, the notion of 'defying Congress' is ignorant idiocy in of itself, as the president is acting in accordance with the laws passed by Congress, and as authorized by Congress:

'In Reno v. American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (1999), the Supreme Court affirmed that “in the deportation process, [a]t each stage the Executive has discretion to abandon the endeavor, and at the time [the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA)] was enacted the INS had been engaging in a regular practice (known as “deferred action”) of exercising that discretion for humanitarian reasons or simply for its own convenience…. many provisions of the IIRIRA are aimed at protecting the Executive’s discretion from the courts–indeed, that can fairly be said to be the theme of the legislation.”

These administrative and court decisions have clear basis in legislation. As noted by the Court inReno, “8 U. S. C. § 1252(g)… restricts judicial review of the Attorney General’s ‘decision or action’ to ‘commence proceedings, adjudicate cases, or execute removal orders against any alien under this Act.’” Moreover, 8 U.S.C. § 1227(d) under “Deportable Aliens” explicitly discusses “the authority of the Secretary of Homeland Security or the Attorney General to grant a stay of removal or deportation in any case not described in this subsection,” meaning that Congress authorized deportation deferrals.'

President Obama s Deportation Deferral Order Is Legal The Law

 

[Stephanie]

Well this is what happens when you elected an Community Agitator as President

All he's done is "Agitate" us and country for SIX miserable years. And it looks like he won't be happy until we are overrun with illegal immigrants, stirring up a race war or whatever he can to pass HIS VISIONS of transformation

what a hell of a guy

 

[Plasmaball]

Well this is what happens when you elected an Community Agitator as President

All he's done is "Agitate" us and country for SIX miserable years. And it looks like he won't be happy until we are overrun with illegal immigrants, stirring up a race war or whatever he can to pass HIS VISIONS of transformation

what a hell of a guy

god you are so stupid

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I AM the Senate!!!

 

[Borillar]

You can't filibuster forever Blah Blah Blah.

Yes you can.

I'm sure you an example of someone doing so.

Republicans 2010 - present

 

[Stephanie]

SNIP:
Obama Is About to Commit an Act of Constitutional Infamy
Peter Wehner 11.19.2014 - 3:25 PM
The president will present his case on behalf of his forthcoming executive order on amnesty tomorrow at 8 p.m. I certainly hope President Obama addresses the arguments against his action that were repeatedly and passionately made by … President Obama. Our friends at National Review have put together a nice video here; I’d urge you here; I’d urge you to watch it.

Mr. Obama is now acting like, in his words, an “emperor.” His hypocrisy is, even by his standards, staggering.

But hypocrisy is not unusual in politicians and presidents; firing a missile aimed at our constitutional form of government is. And that is what Mr. Obama is about to do.

ALL of it here:
Obama Is About to Commit an Act of Constitutional Infamy Commentary Magazine

 

[Vigilante]

 

[Claudette]

Well this is what happens when you elected an Community Agitator as President

All he's done is "Agitate" us and country for SIX miserable years. And it looks like he won't be happy until we are overrun with illegal immigrants, stirring up a race war or whatever he can to pass HIS VISIONS of transformation

what a hell of a guy

Yup and he's going to kick the Dems in the balls at the polls if this bullshit is enacted.

Americans don't want amnesty for illegals. They want them out of our country and those that hire them prosecuted.

Its also a slap in the teeth to those who came to this country legally.

He's one hell of a guy all right.

 

[BULLDOG]

They did not go against the people or congress. Their decisions supported legislation that had already passed. Big difference between that and a president who ignores congress and the people and does what he wants.

Sorry, liberals: Reagan and Bush 41 did not defy Congress with executive amnesty
http://www.caintv.com/sorry-liberals-reagan-and-bush

Quite a big difference. Reagan and Bush 41 and the Affirmative Action President who does things his way because others tell him no.

So the difference is that this one is black? The deferred action that his Executive Order will grant is exactly like the ones Reagan and Bush granted. It's not amnesty goober, even if rush told you it was. It isn't.

 

[BULLDOG]

Pres. Dwight Eisenhower:
1956
By executive order, circumvented immigration quotas to allow 900 orphans to join their adoptive families in the U.S.
1956-1958
By executive order, allowed 31,000 Hungarian anti-Soviet insurgents to emigrate.
1959-72
By executive order, allowed 600,000 Cubans fleeing Castro to emigrate. [PDF]
Pres. Gerald Ford:
1975
By executive order, allowed 360,000 refugees, mostly from from Vietnam, to emigrate.
1976
By executive order, allowed 14,000 Lebanese nationals to emigrate.
Pres. Ronald Reagan:
1981
By executive order, allowed 7,000 Polish anti-Communists to emigrate.
1982
Allowed 15,000-plus Ethiopians to emigrate.
1987
By executive order, rescinded deportation of 200,000 Nicaraguans.
1987
By executive order, deferred deportation of undocumented children of 100,000 families. [JSTOR]
George H.W. Bush:
1989
By executive order, deferred deportations of Chinese students.
1989
By executive order, reversed visa denials of 7,000 Soviets, Indochinese.
1990
By executive order, deferred deporations of previously amnestied citizens’ 1.5 million spouses and children.
1991
By executive order, deferred deportation of 2,000 Gulf War evacuees.
1992
By executive order, deferred deportations of 190,000 El Salvadorans.
George W. Bush:
2002
By executive order, expedited naturalization for green-card holders who joined military.
2005
By executive order, deferred deportation of students affected by Hurricane Katrina.
2006
By executive order, enabled 1,500 Cuban physicians to seek asylum at US embassies.
2007
By executive order, deferred deportation of 3,600 Liberians.

According to your own citation Republicans helped millions upon millions of minorities. It's all in your post. Yet you morons say we hate minorities.

If you don't hate minorities, why are you pitching such a fit now when nothing was said about the times before? I guess the extreme right wing death grip on the republican party changed a lot of things.

 

[NYcarbineer]

They did not go against the people or congress. Their decisions supported legislation that had already passed. Big difference between that and a president who ignores congress and the people and does what he wants.

Sorry, liberals: Reagan and Bush 41 did not defy Congress with executive amnesty
http://www.caintv.com/sorry-liberals-reagan-and-bush

They did not go against the people or congress. Their decisions supported legislation that had already passed. Big difference between that and a president who ignores congress and the people and does what he wants.

Sorry, liberals: Reagan and Bush 41 did not defy Congress with executive amnesty
[URL='http://www.caintv.com/sorry-liberals-reagan-and-bush[/QUOTE']http://www.caintv.com/sorry-liberals-reagan-and-bush[/URL]

Wrong. Reagan's executive order 12582 of 1987 gave amnesty to certain aliens who had served in the military in certain places and actions,

including some not covered by previous Congressional legislation.

Ronald Reagan Executive Order 12582 - Naturalization Requirements Exceptions for Aliens and Non-Citizen Nationals of the United States Who Served in the Grenada Campaign

 

[blackhawk]

You can't filibuster forever Blah Blah Blah.

Yes you can.

I'm sure you an example of someone doing so.

Republicans 2010 - present

So there is currently a filibuster going on right now?

 

[Freewill]

The COTUS does not allow for the president just to flout the law just because Congress didn't pass a law he likes. In my opinion, EVERYONE should be outraged. If this goes through what else might he do? Like kill American citizens without due process....opps he checked that off on his bucket list already.

Obama got his ass spanked last election and him and Pelosi talk as if they won, what frekin' idiots. But Obama knows. That just like Obamacare which will never go away if he just gets 1/2 a million illegals into the country they too will never go away.

Now the question I would like to hear is why? Why is this so important to Obama and "apparently" the left wing? I can't believe it is just for votes. There is no way I am believing it is for humanitarian reasons. So what is there game? Are they really doing it for labor on the cheap? Sure seems to be the most logical answer.

 

[Freewill]

They did not go against the people or congress. Their decisions supported legislation that had already passed. Big difference between that and a president who ignores congress and the people and does what he wants.

Sorry, liberals: Reagan and Bush 41 did not defy Congress with executive amnesty
http://www.caintv.com/sorry-liberals-reagan-and-bush

They did not go against the people or congress. Their decisions supported legislation that had already passed. Big difference between that and a president who ignores congress and the people and does what he wants.

Sorry, liberals: Reagan and Bush 41 did not defy Congress with executive amnesty
http://www.caintv.com/sorry-liberals-reagan-and-bush

Wrong. Reagan's executive order 12582 of 1987 gave amnesty to certain aliens who had served in the military in certain places and actions,

including some not covered by previous Congressional legislation.

Ronald Reagan Executive Order 12582 - Naturalization Requirements Exceptions for Aliens and Non-Citizen Nationals of the United States Who Served in the Grenada Campaign

I am pretty sure that most people would not have a problem with granting amnesty to those who served in the military.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

executive order is unconstitutional because it bypasses congress ... just ask any Republitard ... even though the Constitution defines executive order under executive powers ..

interesting the Republitards can't fathom the facts.

They don't read. Maybe the news headline marquee at the bottom of the television screen on Fox Noise....

 

[NYcarbineer]

They did not go against the people or congress. Their decisions supported legislation that had already passed. Big difference between that and a president who ignores congress and the people and does what he wants.

Sorry, liberals: Reagan and Bush 41 did not defy Congress with executive amnesty
http://www.caintv.com/sorry-liberals-reagan-and-bush

They did not go against the people or congress. Their decisions supported legislation that had already passed. Big difference between that and a president who ignores congress and the people and does what he wants.

Sorry, liberals: Reagan and Bush 41 did not defy Congress with executive amnesty
http://www.caintv.com/sorry-liberals-reagan-and-bush

Wrong. Reagan's executive order 12582 of 1987 gave amnesty to certain aliens who had served in the military in certain places and actions,

including some not covered by previous Congressional legislation.

Ronald Reagan Executive Order 12582 - Naturalization Requirements Exceptions for Aliens and Non-Citizen Nationals of the United States Who Served in the Grenada Campaign

I am pretty sure that most people would not have a problem with granting amnesty to those who served in the military.

Which is of course a non-sequitur.