Sorry, liberals: Reagan and Bush 41 did not defy Congress with executive amnesty

[Clementine]

They did not go against the people or congress. Their decisions supported legislation that had already passed. Big difference between that and a president who ignores congress and the people and does what he wants.

Sorry, liberals: Reagan and Bush 41 did not defy Congress with executive amnesty
http://www.caintv.com/sorry-liberals-reagan-and-bush

 

[deltex1]

I'm not worried about executive amnesty...Jon Gruber says it won't cost us a dime.

 

[Siete]

Pres. Dwight Eisenhower:
1956
By executive order, circumvented immigration quotas to allow 900 orphans to join their adoptive families in the U.S.
1956-1958
By executive order, allowed 31,000 Hungarian anti-Soviet insurgents to emigrate.
1959-72
By executive order, allowed 600,000 Cubans fleeing Castro to emigrate. [PDF]
Pres. Gerald Ford:
1975
By executive order, allowed 360,000 refugees, mostly from from Vietnam, to emigrate.
1976
By executive order, allowed 14,000 Lebanese nationals to emigrate.
Pres. Ronald Reagan:
1981
By executive order, allowed 7,000 Polish anti-Communists to emigrate.
1982
Allowed 15,000-plus Ethiopians to emigrate.
1987
By executive order, rescinded deportation of 200,000 Nicaraguans.
1987
By executive order, deferred deportation of undocumented children of 100,000 families. [JSTOR]
George H.W. Bush:
1989
By executive order, deferred deportations of Chinese students.
1989
By executive order, reversed visa denials of 7,000 Soviets, Indochinese.
1990
By executive order, deferred deporations of previously amnestied citizens’ 1.5 million spouses and children.
1991
By executive order, deferred deportation of 2,000 Gulf War evacuees.
1992
By executive order, deferred deportations of 190,000 El Salvadorans.
George W. Bush:
2002
By executive order, expedited naturalization for green-card holders who joined military.
2005
By executive order, deferred deportation of students affected by Hurricane Katrina.
2006
By executive order, enabled 1,500 Cuban physicians to seek asylum at US embassies.
2007
By executive order, deferred deportation of 3,600 Liberians.

 

[deltex1]

Pres. Dwight Eisenhower:
1956
By executive order, circumvented immigration quotas to allow 900 orphans to join their adoptive families in the U.S.
1956-1958
By executive order, allowed 31,000 Hungarian anti-Soviet insurgents to emigrate.
1959-72
By executive order, allowed 600,000 Cubans fleeing Castro to emigrate. [PDF]
Pres. Gerald Ford:
1975
By executive order, allowed 360,000 refugees, mostly from from Vietnam, to emigrate.
1976
By executive order, allowed 14,000 Lebanese nationals to emigrate.
Pres. Ronald Reagan:
1981
By executive order, allowed 7,000 Polish anti-Communists to emigrate.
1982
Allowed 15,000-plus Ethiopians to emigrate.
1987
By executive order, rescinded deportation of 200,000 Nicaraguans.
1987
By executive order, deferred deportation of undocumented children of 100,000 families. [JSTOR]
George H.W. Bush:
1989
By executive order, deferred deportations of Chinese students.
1989
By executive order, reversed visa denials of 7,000 Soviets, Indochinese.
1990
By executive order, deferred deporations of previously amnestied citizens’ 1.5 million spouses and children.
1991
By executive order, deferred deportation of 2,000 Gulf War evacuees.
1992
By executive order, deferred deportations of 190,000 El Salvadorans.
George W. Bush:
2002
By executive order, expedited naturalization for green-card holders who joined military.
2005
By executive order, deferred deportation of students affected by Hurricane Katrina.
2006
By executive order, enabled 1,500 Cuban physicians to seek asylum at US embassies.
2007
By executive order, deferred deportation of 3,600 Liberians.

Oh

 

[rdean]

Pres. Dwight Eisenhower:
1956
By executive order, circumvented immigration quotas to allow 900 orphans to join their adoptive families in the U.S.
1956-1958
By executive order, allowed 31,000 Hungarian anti-Soviet insurgents to emigrate.
1959-72
By executive order, allowed 600,000 Cubans fleeing Castro to emigrate. [PDF]
Pres. Gerald Ford:
1975
By executive order, allowed 360,000 refugees, mostly from from Vietnam, to emigrate.
1976
By executive order, allowed 14,000 Lebanese nationals to emigrate.
Pres. Ronald Reagan:
1981
By executive order, allowed 7,000 Polish anti-Communists to emigrate.
1982
Allowed 15,000-plus Ethiopians to emigrate.
1987
By executive order, rescinded deportation of 200,000 Nicaraguans.
1987
By executive order, deferred deportation of undocumented children of 100,000 families. [JSTOR]
George H.W. Bush:
1989
By executive order, deferred deportations of Chinese students.
1989
By executive order, reversed visa denials of 7,000 Soviets, Indochinese.
1990
By executive order, deferred deporations of previously amnestied citizens’ 1.5 million spouses and children.
1991
By executive order, deferred deportation of 2,000 Gulf War evacuees.
1992
By executive order, deferred deportations of 190,000 El Salvadorans.
George W. Bush:
2002
By executive order, expedited naturalization for green-card holders who joined military.
2005
By executive order, deferred deportation of students affected by Hurricane Katrina.
2006
By executive order, enabled 1,500 Cuban physicians to seek asylum at US embassies.
2007
By executive order, deferred deportation of 3,600 Liberians.

Oh

I seem to remember Reagan letting in Cubans. Was it called the Marianna Boat Lift? It was so long ago.
There were also big ones involving millions. The families of children born here and others. Do they really need to be looked up? Again?

 

[deltex1]

Pres. Dwight Eisenhower:
1956
By executive order, circumvented immigration quotas to allow 900 orphans to join their adoptive families in the U.S.
1956-1958
By executive order, allowed 31,000 Hungarian anti-Soviet insurgents to emigrate.
1959-72
By executive order, allowed 600,000 Cubans fleeing Castro to emigrate. [PDF]
Pres. Gerald Ford:
1975
By executive order, allowed 360,000 refugees, mostly from from Vietnam, to emigrate.
1976
By executive order, allowed 14,000 Lebanese nationals to emigrate.
Pres. Ronald Reagan:
1981
By executive order, allowed 7,000 Polish anti-Communists to emigrate.
1982
Allowed 15,000-plus Ethiopians to emigrate.
1987
By executive order, rescinded deportation of 200,000 Nicaraguans.
1987
By executive order, deferred deportation of undocumented children of 100,000 families. [JSTOR]
George H.W. Bush:
1989
By executive order, deferred deportations of Chinese students.
1989
By executive order, reversed visa denials of 7,000 Soviets, Indochinese.
1990
By executive order, deferred deporations of previously amnestied citizens’ 1.5 million spouses and children.
1991
By executive order, deferred deportation of 2,000 Gulf War evacuees.
1992
By executive order, deferred deportations of 190,000 El Salvadorans.
George W. Bush:
2002
By executive order, expedited naturalization for green-card holders who joined military.
2005
By executive order, deferred deportation of students affected by Hurricane Katrina.
2006
By executive order, enabled 1,500 Cuban physicians to seek asylum at US embassies.
2007
By executive order, deferred deportation of 3,600 Liberians.

Oh

I seem to remember Reagan letting in Cubans. Was it called the Marianna Boat Lift? It was so long ago.
There were also big ones involving millions. The families of children born here and others. Do they really need to be looked up? Again?

Was Reagan opposed by the dems or the people?

 

[AmericanFirst]

Pres. Dwight Eisenhower:
1956
By executive order, circumvented immigration quotas to allow 900 orphans to join their adoptive families in the U.S.
1956-1958
By executive order, allowed 31,000 Hungarian anti-Soviet insurgents to emigrate.
1959-72
By executive order, allowed 600,000 Cubans fleeing Castro to emigrate. [PDF]
Pres. Gerald Ford:
1975
By executive order, allowed 360,000 refugees, mostly from from Vietnam, to emigrate.
1976
By executive order, allowed 14,000 Lebanese nationals to emigrate.
Pres. Ronald Reagan:
1981
By executive order, allowed 7,000 Polish anti-Communists to emigrate.
1982
Allowed 15,000-plus Ethiopians to emigrate.
1987
By executive order, rescinded deportation of 200,000 Nicaraguans.
1987
By executive order, deferred deportation of undocumented children of 100,000 families. [JSTOR]
George H.W. Bush:
1989
By executive order, deferred deportations of Chinese students.
1989
By executive order, reversed visa denials of 7,000 Soviets, Indochinese.
1990
By executive order, deferred deporations of previously amnestied citizens’ 1.5 million spouses and children.
1991
By executive order, deferred deportation of 2,000 Gulf War evacuees.
1992
By executive order, deferred deportations of 190,000 El Salvadorans.
George W. Bush:
2002
By executive order, expedited naturalization for green-card holders who joined military.
2005
By executive order, deferred deportation of students affected by Hurricane Katrina.
2006
By executive order, enabled 1,500 Cuban physicians to seek asylum at US embassies.
2007
By executive order, deferred deportation of 3,600 Liberians.

Oh

I seem to remember Reagan letting in Cubans. Was it called the Marianna Boat Lift? It was so long ago.
There were also big ones involving millions. The families of children born here and others. Do they really need to be looked up? Again?

That was Carter you moron. The Mariel boat lift in 1980.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Pres. Dwight Eisenhower:
1956
By executive order, circumvented immigration quotas to allow 900 orphans to join their adoptive families in the U.S.
1956-1958
By executive order, allowed 31,000 Hungarian anti-Soviet insurgents to emigrate.
1959-72
By executive order, allowed 600,000 Cubans fleeing Castro to emigrate. [PDF]
Pres. Gerald Ford:
1975
By executive order, allowed 360,000 refugees, mostly from from Vietnam, to emigrate.
1976
By executive order, allowed 14,000 Lebanese nationals to emigrate.
Pres. Ronald Reagan:
1981
By executive order, allowed 7,000 Polish anti-Communists to emigrate.
1982
Allowed 15,000-plus Ethiopians to emigrate.
1987
By executive order, rescinded deportation of 200,000 Nicaraguans.
1987
By executive order, deferred deportation of undocumented children of 100,000 families. [JSTOR]
George H.W. Bush:
1989
By executive order, deferred deportations of Chinese students.
1989
By executive order, reversed visa denials of 7,000 Soviets, Indochinese.
1990
By executive order, deferred deporations of previously amnestied citizens’ 1.5 million spouses and children.
1991
By executive order, deferred deportation of 2,000 Gulf War evacuees.
1992
By executive order, deferred deportations of 190,000 El Salvadorans.
George W. Bush:
2002
By executive order, expedited naturalization for green-card holders who joined military.
2005
By executive order, deferred deportation of students affected by Hurricane Katrina.
2006
By executive order, enabled 1,500 Cuban physicians to seek asylum at US embassies.
2007
By executive order, deferred deportation of 3,600 Liberians.

Oh

I seem to remember Reagan letting in Cubans. Was it called the Marianna Boat Lift? It was so long ago.
There were also big ones involving millions. The families of children born here and others. Do they really need to be looked up? Again?

Cubans and Soviets only had to get here and "defect" and they were in, because they came from communist countries. Not the same with these invaders from Mexico.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Pres. Dwight Eisenhower:
1956
By executive order, circumvented immigration quotas to allow 900 orphans to join their adoptive families in the U.S.
1956-1958
By executive order, allowed 31,000 Hungarian anti-Soviet insurgents to emigrate.
1959-72
By executive order, allowed 600,000 Cubans fleeing Castro to emigrate. [PDF]
Pres. Gerald Ford:
1975
By executive order, allowed 360,000 refugees, mostly from from Vietnam, to emigrate.
1976
By executive order, allowed 14,000 Lebanese nationals to emigrate.
Pres. Ronald Reagan:
1981
By executive order, allowed 7,000 Polish anti-Communists to emigrate.
1982
Allowed 15,000-plus Ethiopians to emigrate.
1987
By executive order, rescinded deportation of 200,000 Nicaraguans.
1987
By executive order, deferred deportation of undocumented children of 100,000 families. [JSTOR]
George H.W. Bush:
1989
By executive order, deferred deportations of Chinese students.
1989
By executive order, reversed visa denials of 7,000 Soviets, Indochinese.
1990
By executive order, deferred deporations of previously amnestied citizens’ 1.5 million spouses and children.
1991
By executive order, deferred deportation of 2,000 Gulf War evacuees.
1992
By executive order, deferred deportations of 190,000 El Salvadorans.
George W. Bush:
2002
By executive order, expedited naturalization for green-card holders who joined military.
2005
By executive order, deferred deportation of students affected by Hurricane Katrina.
2006
By executive order, enabled 1,500 Cuban physicians to seek asylum at US embassies.
2007
By executive order, deferred deportation of 3,600 Liberians.

Stupid it's not doing an executive order that is the problem it's changing laws with an executive order that is the problem.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

They did not go against the people or congress. Their decisions supported legislation that had already passed. Big difference between that and a president who ignores congress and the people and does what he wants.

Sorry, liberals: Reagan and Bush 41 did not defy Congress with executive amnesty
http://www.caintv.com/sorry-liberals-reagan-and-bush

Yes, and thank you !!

This talking point the last few days from the left is a downright lie.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Sorry, liberals: Reagan and Bush 41 did not defy Congress with executive amnesty"

And neither will president Obama.

 

[Syriusly]

Pres. Dwight Eisenhower:
1956
By executive order, circumvented immigration quotas to allow 900 orphans to join their adoptive families in the U.S.
1956-1958
By executive order, allowed 31,000 Hungarian anti-Soviet insurgents to emigrate.
1959-72
By executive order, allowed 600,000 Cubans fleeing Castro to emigrate. [PDF]
Pres. Gerald Ford:
1975
By executive order, allowed 360,000 refugees, mostly from from Vietnam, to emigrate.
1976
By executive order, allowed 14,000 Lebanese nationals to emigrate.
Pres. Ronald Reagan:
1981
By executive order, allowed 7,000 Polish anti-Communists to emigrate.
1982
Allowed 15,000-plus Ethiopians to emigrate.
1987
By executive order, rescinded deportation of 200,000 Nicaraguans.
1987
By executive order, deferred deportation of undocumented children of 100,000 families. [JSTOR]
George H.W. Bush:
1989
By executive order, deferred deportations of Chinese students.
1989
By executive order, reversed visa denials of 7,000 Soviets, Indochinese.
1990
By executive order, deferred deporations of previously amnestied citizens’ 1.5 million spouses and children.
1991
By executive order, deferred deportation of 2,000 Gulf War evacuees.
1992
By executive order, deferred deportations of 190,000 El Salvadorans.
George W. Bush:
2002
By executive order, expedited naturalization for green-card holders who joined military.
2005
By executive order, deferred deportation of students affected by Hurricane Katrina.
2006
By executive order, enabled 1,500 Cuban physicians to seek asylum at US embassies.
2007
By executive order, deferred deportation of 3,600 Liberians.

But other than those- no President has issued Executive orders regarding immigration.....

 

[Howey]

Pres. Dwight Eisenhower:
1956
By executive order, circumvented immigration quotas to allow 900 orphans to join their adoptive families in the U.S.
1956-1958
By executive order, allowed 31,000 Hungarian anti-Soviet insurgents to emigrate.
1959-72
By executive order, allowed 600,000 Cubans fleeing Castro to emigrate. [PDF]
Pres. Gerald Ford:
1975
By executive order, allowed 360,000 refugees, mostly from from Vietnam, to emigrate.
1976
By executive order, allowed 14,000 Lebanese nationals to emigrate.
Pres. Ronald Reagan:
1981
By executive order, allowed 7,000 Polish anti-Communists to emigrate.
1982
Allowed 15,000-plus Ethiopians to emigrate.
1987
By executive order, rescinded deportation of 200,000 Nicaraguans.
1987
By executive order, deferred deportation of undocumented children of 100,000 families. [JSTOR]
George H.W. Bush:
1989
By executive order, deferred deportations of Chinese students.
1989
By executive order, reversed visa denials of 7,000 Soviets, Indochinese.
1990
By executive order, deferred deporations of previously amnestied citizens’ 1.5 million spouses and children.
1991
By executive order, deferred deportation of 2,000 Gulf War evacuees.
1992
By executive order, deferred deportations of 190,000 El Salvadorans.
George W. Bush:
2002
By executive order, expedited naturalization for green-card holders who joined military.
2005
By executive order, deferred deportation of students affected by Hurricane Katrina.
2006
By executive order, enabled 1,500 Cuban physicians to seek asylum at US embassies.
2007
By executive order, deferred deportation of 3,600 Liberians.

Yeah...but they weren't smelly messicans!

 

[ShackledNation]

Obama has talked about focusing on deporting violent criminals, not granting anyone outright amnesty. In other words, he too would be enforcing existing laws. The effect would be more violent criminals deported relative to families or workers deported.

It is interesting how people are decrying an executive order they call "amnesty" that a) Doesn't even exist yet to criticize and b) Won't involve granting amnesty.

 

[Stephanie]

Of course they didn't but the lamestream media, leftwing garbage sites don't care what they peddle. anything to help their master, Obama

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It is in fact a rightwing lie that the president is going to 'grant amnesty' to those undocumented.

The EO will in no way create a 'pathway to citizenship,' nor will it authorize the issuance of 'green cards.'

'Two recent reports point to a bevy of precedent for this sort of executive action. Eleven presidents since President Eisenhower has taken executive action on immigration, extending protections of people from specific countries, individuals with certain attributes, or those possessing common equities such as spouses and children, according to the Immigration Policy Center. Presidents have taken large scale executive actions including “paroles of up to 600,000 Cubans in the 1960s and over 300,000 Southeast Asians in the 1970s, President Carter’s suspension of deportations for over 250,000 visa-holders, and President Reagan’s deferral of deportations for up to 200,000 Nicaraguans.” Other examples that IPC found include “family-based actions,” which suspended the deportation of some individuals and “actions while legislation was pending,” like the parole of Cuban asylum seekers fleeing Castro and deferred action to some battered immigrants.

As Greg Sargent from the Washington Post points out, prior administrations have “used prosecutorial discretion to protect both individuals and groups from removal — and have historically justified these actions with humanitarian reasons.”

Several immigration experts have pointed out that while it is up to Congress to set federal parameters on who can immigrate into the country and finance “various programs to deport those who don’t have legal status, those very same federal laws also give the president considerable flexibility on how to enforce immigration laws.” And more than 100 immigration professors signed a letter last month stating that the president has the legal authority to exercise prosecutorial discretion when deciding how to enforce immigration laws, a claim that they say has basis in the Constitution and has already been made into law.'

Republicans Say Obama s Immigration Action Challenges Constitution But History Says Otherwise ThinkProgress

The president's use of prosecutorial discretion is perfectly appropriate, legal, and Constitutional.

 

[Siete]

executive order is unconstitutional because it bypasses congress ... just ask any Republitard ... even though the Constitution defines executive order under executive powers ..

interesting the Republitards can't fathom the facts.

 

[RandallFlagg]

They did not go against the people or congress. Their decisions supported legislation that had already passed. Big difference between that and a president who ignores congress and the people and does what he wants.

Sorry, liberals: Reagan and Bush 41 did not defy Congress with executive amnesty
http://www.caintv.com/sorry-liberals-reagan-and-bush

Indeed. Mazzoli/Simpson Law of 1986. Reagan added a couple of small things to the law - he did NOT attempt to change the law. He did nothing even remotely controversial .

 

[RandallFlagg]

It is in fact a rightwing lie that the president is going to 'grant amnesty' to those undocumented.

The EO will in no way create a 'pathway to citizenship,' nor will it authorize the issuance of 'green cards.'

'Two recent reports point to a bevy of precedent for this sort of executive action. Eleven presidents since President Eisenhower has taken executive action on immigration, extending protections of people from specific countries, individuals with certain attributes, or those possessing common equities such as spouses and children, according to the Immigration Policy Center. Presidents have taken large scale executive actions including “paroles of up to 600,000 Cubans in the 1960s and over 300,000 Southeast Asians in the 1970s, President Carter’s suspension of deportations for over 250,000 visa-holders, and President Reagan’s deferral of deportations for up to 200,000 Nicaraguans.” Other examples that IPC found include “family-based actions,” which suspended the deportation of some individuals and “actions while legislation was pending,” like the parole of Cuban asylum seekers fleeing Castro and deferred action to some battered immigrants.

As Greg Sargent from the Washington Post points out, prior administrations have “used prosecutorial discretion to protect both individuals and groups from removal — and have historically justified these actions with humanitarian reasons.”

Several immigration experts have pointed out that while it is up to Congress to set federal parameters on who can immigrate into the country and finance “various programs to deport those who don’t have legal status, those very same federal laws also give the president considerable flexibility on how to enforce immigration laws.” And more than 100 immigration professors signed a letter last month stating that the president has the legal authority to exercise prosecutorial discretion when deciding how to enforce immigration laws, a claim that they say has basis in the Constitution and has already been made into law.'

Republicans Say Obama s Immigration Action Challenges Constitution But History Says Otherwise ThinkProgress

The president's use of prosecutorial discretion is perfectly appropriate, legal, and Constitutional.

Bullshit Hypocrite. Article 1 section 8 of the Constitution, you fool. Fuck you AND your reports. Either we are a "Nation of laws" as The Emperor says repeatedly - or we are not.

 

[Stephanie]