some say no fraud 2020 but do they say also No Constitution or legislative law was broken? BS

[Lastamender]

Show the link of these "real courts" where there was admissible evidence that there was massive fraud.

Without a evidentiary hearing evidence cannot be presented. That settles that.

 

[Lastamender]

I suspect you'll find that every state makes provisions for emergencies such as covid and that is why none of Trump's lawsuits succeeded.


Or save lives during a pandemic.


People like AG Barr?

You are forgetting they broke their own states laws to do that without approval of their legislatures. The election had 0 integrity and that is a fact.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Without a evidentiary hearing evidence cannot be presented. That settles that.

Only in your mind.

You have nothing because there was no mass fraud. Period.

 

[Sixties Fan]

You are forgetting they broke their own states laws to do that without approval of their legislatures. The election had 0 integrity and that is a fact.

What are you talking about. Show evidence.

 

[Lastamender]

Only in your mind.

You have nothing because there was no mass fraud. Period.

"2,000 Mules" proves differently.

 

[Sixties Fan]

"2,000 Mules" proves differently.

It proves nothing.

You wish to fall for what is in that documentary that is your prerogative:
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But looking at the case more closely, you see how the impression you’re meant to have is wildly misleading. The shooting led to the death of Secoriea Turner on July 4, 2020. It was far from a “cold case” — police arrested a suspect about two weeks later after he turned himself in. A second suspect was arrested in early August 2021 — not by federal law enforcement but by state officials. There is no indication that geolocation data played a role in either arrest, much less data provided by Phillips’s team.

“2000 Mules” can be broken out into three basic components. There’s the geolocation-based material that’s the heart of D’Souza’s assertions about the election. The second half of the movie is a broader effort to undergird the geolocation claims, an attempt to build a foundation of how and why a rampant ballot collection scheme might have been undertaken. And then there’s the third part, a sort of cable-news-style panel conversation with D’Souza and several other conservative and right-wing pundits. (All of those pundits, incidentally, have shows with Salem Media Group, which served as executive producer of the film.) By the end, the pundits have been convinced that rampant fraud occurred, with former Trump administration official Sebastian Gorka outlining all of the evidence that had been presented “empirically” in support of the claim.

There is no such empirical evidence, by a long shot. That geolocation data from Phillips and Engelbrecht’s group, True the Vote, which also has executive-producer credits on the film, is used as a purportedly data-driven latticework on which everything else hangs. But beyond lots of harrumphing about how revealing this data is, we see very little of it.

(full article online)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/11/2000-mules-offers-least-convincing-election-fraud-theory-yet/

 

[Sixties Fan]

Fact-checking ‘2000 Mules,’ the movie alleging ballot fraud

If a cellphone went near a drop box more than 10 times and a nonprofit more than five times from Oct. 1 to Election Day, True the Vote assumed its owner was a “mule.”

www.mercurynews.com

 

[Sixties Fan]

Praised by former President Donald Trump as exposing “great election fraud,” the movie, called “2000 Mules," paints an ominous picture suggesting Democrat-aligned ballot “mules” were supposedly paid to illegally collect and drop off ballots in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. But that's based on faulty assumptions, anonymous accounts and improper analysis of cellphone location data, which is not precise enough to confirm that somebody deposited a ballot into a drop box, according to experts.

Read more at: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/article261036477.html#storylink=cpy

 

[Sixties Fan]

CLAIM: At least 2,000 “mules” were paid to illegally collect ballots and deliver them to drop boxes in key swing states ahead of the 2020 presidential election.


THE FACTS: The finding is based on false assumptions about the precision of cellphone tracking data and the reasons that someone might drop off multiple ballots.


True the Vote has said it found some 2,000 ballot harvesters by purchasing $2 million worth of anonymized cell phone geolocation data in various swing counties across five states. Then, by drawing a virtual boundary around a county’s ballot drop boxes and various unnamed nonprofits, it identified cell phones that repeatedly went near both ahead of the 2020 election.


If a cell phone went near a drop box more than 10 times and a nonprofit more than five times from Oct. 1 to Election Day, True the Vote assumed its owner was a “mule”.


Cell phone location data is imprecise and can not be tracked to the box. Meaning if someone drove by an area, True the Vote could have counted them as a “mule” under their definition.


As boxes are in busy areas, the likelihood of innocent citizens driving by is very high, especially delivery drivers, postal workers, cab drivers, poll workers and elected officials who all have legitimate reasons to cross paths with numerous drop boxes or nonprofits in a given day.

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CLAIM: Alleged ballot harvesters were captured on surveillance video wearing gloves because they didn’t want to leave their fingerprints on the ballots.


THE FACTS: This is pure speculation. It ignores far more likely reasons for glove-wearing in the fall and winter of 2020 — cold weather or COVID-19.

(full article online )

2000 MULES | JANUARY 6TH

Dinesh D'Souza's new film, 2000 Mules, suggests election fraud in the 2020 election without bringing any solid evidence.

www.jan-6.com

 

[alang1216]

You are forgetting they broke their own states laws to do that without approval of their legislatures. The election had 0 integrity and that is a fact.

Odd that no court agrees with you. They must be in on the conspiracy to steal the election from Trump. Let's see, besides the Dems and state election officials, that list includes:

• US Attorney General Barr (R)
• Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R)
• Michigan GOP executive director Jason Roe
• The Ninjas from Maricopa, AZ

If the Dems can get all those groups to conspire with them you Trumpers don't stand a chance.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Yes, many people say there was no fraud.

To put this in proper perspective, though, these are the same people who say men can give birth and burning down a person's business is mostly peaceful.

 

[Lastamender]

Odd that no court agrees with you. They must be in on the conspiracy to steal the election from Trump. Let's see, besides the Dems and state election officials, that list includes:

• US Attorney General Barr (R)
• Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R)
• Michigan GOP executive director Jason Roe
• The Ninjas from Maricopa, AZ

If the Dems can get all those groups to conspire with them you Trumpers don't stand a chance.

Does not change one thing "2,000 Mules" had to say. There was a conspiracy just like Biden said. Massive organized fraud.

 

[alang1216]

Does not change one thing "2,000 Mules" had to say.

Confirmation bias? First it was recounts, then it was court action, then it was 'forensic audits' but none found anything of note. But one source found what no one else could find? Really?

There was a conspiracy just like Biden said.

I doubt Joe Biden said any such thing.

 

[Lastamender]

Confirmation bias? First it was recounts, then it was court action, then it was 'forensic audits' but none found anything of note. But one source found what no one else could find? Really?


I doubt Joe Biden said any such thing.

The audits found broken and ignored laws. You are lying if you say they did not. The fact that AGs will not prosecute the lawbreakers is the real news here.

 

[alang1216]

The audits found broken and ignored laws. You are lying if you say they did not. The fact that AGs will not prosecute the lawbreakers is the real news here.

Even if that is true, there is no evidence they affected the outcome of election. Unless of course you think that a free and fair election favors the Dems. Even Donald Trump admitted that making it easier to vote in America would hurt the Republican party.

 

[Lastamender]

Even if that is true, there is no evidence they affected the outcome of election. Unless of course you think that a free and fair election favors the Dems. Even Donald Trump admitted that making it easier to vote in America would hurt the Republican party.

The election was not free and fair. Only an idiot would say that. I do not think you are really worth answering.

 

[Lastamender]

Confirmation bias? First it was recounts, then it was court action, then it was 'forensic audits' but none found anything of note. But one source found what no one else could find? Really?


I doubt Joe Biden said any such thing.

The video is in someone's signature. He said they built the greatest fraud organization ever.

 

[Dragonlady]

"2,000 Mules" has.

2000 miles has “proven” nothing, other than the producers can make a movie.

 

[Lastamender]

2000 miles has “proven” nothing, other than the producers can make a movie.

It has proven there should be investigations is very suspicious proven activities. Why aren't the states investigating?

 

[alang1216]

The video is in someone's signature. He said they built the greatest fraud organization ever.

I stand corrected. If you see an anonymous video on USMB it is always a great source of information. After all, no one here would post a Photoshopped picture or an edited video.