Some reactions to Donald Trump's anti-immigration rally in AZ

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First, here is the whole thing:




Second, tidbits from many sources:

Relishing polls Trump rails against U.S. presidential race rivals Reuters

His rally, originally planned for a hotel ballroom, was moved to a convention center after more than 9,000 people asked for tickets, organizers said.

Numbers inside the standing-room-only room were far smaller than that total, although Trump said "thousands" could not get in. Trump was joined at the rally by local sheriff Joe Arpaio, who has been sued by the Justice Department for racially profiling Latinos.


-and-

"I'm really smart," he said.

-and this detail may be especially interesting to note:
"The only thing I can tell you is that it is awakening the Hispanic community," said Eduardo Sainz, 22. "We're keeping a tally of who is on our side and who isn't. The Hispanic community won't forget in 2016."

Donald Trump Antes Up On Immigration Stance

So, how big is the Phoenix Convention Center?

In the 4,200-capacity Phoenix convention center packed with flag-waving supporters, Trump took a different view — for a moment — and said: "I love the Mexican people. I love 'em. Many, many people from Mexico are legal. They came in the old-fashioned way. Legally."

He quickly returned to the sharp tone that has brought him scorn as well as praise. "I respect Mexico greatly as a country. But the problem we have is their leaders are much sharper than ours, and they're killing us at the border and they're killing us on trade."

His speeches in both venues were long on insults aimed at critics and short on solutions to the problems he cited. When he called for a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, the audience in Las Vegas groaned.


-and this detail is quite interesting:

As Trump lambasted Univision for cancelling its broadcast of the Miss USA pageant, one of his many business enterprises, a group of young Latinos unfurled a banner pointed toward the stage and began chanting insults. They were quickly drowned out by the crowd, and nearby Trump supporters began to grab at them, tearing at the banner and pulling and pushing at the protesters. Security staff managed to get to the group and escorted them out as Trump resumed speaking.

"I wonder if the Mexican government sent them over here," he said. "I think so."


Yes, we can see quite clearly that Trump is doing just excellently with Latinos.

Donald Trump storms Phoenix - Ben Schreckinger - POLITICO

A day later, he came to Arizona and said, “We have to stop illegal immigration. We have to. We have to,” to the cheers of 4,000 supporters.

On Monday, RNC Chairman Reince Preibus called Trump to congratulate him on his success and reportedly ask him to “tone it down.”

But Donald Trump only tones it in one direction: up...

...“They’re taking our jobs. They’re taking our manufacturing jobs. They’re taking our money. They’re killing us.”




-and-

“This crowd today blows away anything that Bernie Sanders has gotten,” Trump said (10,000 people recently came out to cheer Sanders in Madison, Wisconsin).
-and-

Ahead of the event, John McCain called Trump’s immigration comments “offensive.” Arizona’s other Republican senator, Jeff Flake, called his views “coarse, ill-informed and inaccurate.” News outlets and fact-checkers pointed out that Trump’s assertion — that the undocumented immigrants coming from Mexico are that country’s criminal element — appears to be flat wrong.

But while the press and the party condemn Trump’s rhetoric, many voters are eating it up. When Trump mentioned McCain, the crowd booed.


Trump blasts US immigration policy trade agenda Fox News

Trump Arizona rally 3,500 attendees.png


(Notice the number of attendees that FOX NEWS reported)

Trump's speeches were filled with tangents and insults leveled at business partners such as Univision and NBC that have dropped him in the wake of his comments that Mexican immigrants bring drugs and crime to the U.S. and are rapists. He also directed familiar barbs at other presidential contenders, including Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton ("the worst secretary of state in the history of the country"), news media figures ("lyin' Brian Williams") and President Barack Obama ("such a divisive person"). He called journalists "terrible people."


Trump We have to take back the heart of our country - The Washington Post

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, whose caustic comments about Mexicans have inflamed the immigration debate, told thousands of cheering supporters here Saturday that “we have to take back the heart of our country.”

In a rambling, defiant speech delivered in this border state that has been the epicenter of the nation’s divisive battle over immigration reform, Trump declared: “These are people that shouldn’t be in our country. They flow in like water.” One man in the crowd of 4,200 shouted back, “Build a wall!”

Basking in polls that show he has risen to the top of the crowded Republican field, Trump took obvious glee in mocking former Florida governor Jeb Bush, the establishment favorite who is setting fundraising records.

“Jeb Bush, let’s say he’s president — Oy, yoy, yoy,” Trump said. He asked the crowd: “How can I be tied with this guy? He’s terrible. Terrible. He’s weak on immigration.”

Trump’s 70-minute address here, which sounded more like a stream-of-consciousness rant than a presidential-style stump speech, put an exclamation point on his bombastic push since his presidential announcement last month to return immigration to the forefront of the national conversation.


-and-

Republican leaders say they believe the celebrity billionaire has virtually no chance of being their nominee, much less of making it to the White House. And, for now at least, his following seems limited to the far right as opposed to the party’s mainstream...

...Party leaders increasingly fear that Trump could do damage to more viable candidates, such as Bush, who could lose their own footing on immigration. These candidates confront a familiar challenge: During the primary season, they must deal with the anger and anxiety that many on the right feel about illegal immigration. But they must do it in a way that will not damage their appeal to a broader electorate in November 2016.

Republicans are handling Trump delicately for another reason as well: They fear that he could leave the GOP entirely and wage a well-funded third-party campaign, a possibility that Trump has not ruled out...

...But it was his crusade against illegal immigrants that had Trump’s crowd most enthused. After expressing shock that his immigration message has resonated so strongly with the GOP base, Trump said, “The silent majority is back, and we’re going to take the country back.” He walked off the stage to Twisted Sister’s “We’re Not Gonna Take It.”



More to come, this is just the beginning....

So, Don Trump had success in front of a crowd of Libertarians in Nevada and a bunch of white, hard-core Righties in Arizona. Now, let's see what his words do on the national stage, when he's not preaching to his own choir.

Discuss. How did yesterday go for Trump?
 
If there is anything that will really resonate with the American people, it's a bunch of Mexicans telling them what opinions they should have.
 
Anti illegal immigration....GFY.


You seem angry, but then again, you are a Rightie, I expect you to be angry.

Yawwwwwnnnn....
Not angry...simply dismissive or your mischarcterizations and lies. You are a Libtard drone.

Slight correction...a MINDLESS Libtard drone


Ahh, A SassyLesbiAss moment... interesting.

And you also lack the ability to actually read an OP.

Funny that.
 
Anti illegal immigration....GFY.


You seem angry, but then again, you are a Rightie, I expect you to be angry.

Yawwwwwnnnn....
Not angry...simply dismissive or your mischarcterizations and lies. You are a Libtard drone.


Yes, you are angry.

Now, can you concentrate for more than one millisecond on the topic of the OP, or is that just too difficult for you?

Like you are doing? Effin moron
 
First, here is the whole thing:




Second, tidbits from many sources:

Relishing polls Trump rails against U.S. presidential race rivals Reuters

His rally, originally planned for a hotel ballroom, was moved to a convention center after more than 9,000 people asked for tickets, organizers said.

Numbers inside the standing-room-only room were far smaller than that total, although Trump said "thousands" could not get in. Trump was joined at the rally by local sheriff Joe Arpaio, who has been sued by the Justice Department for racially profiling Latinos.


-and-

"I'm really smart," he said.

-and this detail may be especially interesting to note:
"The only thing I can tell you is that it is awakening the Hispanic community," said Eduardo Sainz, 22. "We're keeping a tally of who is on our side and who isn't. The Hispanic community won't forget in 2016."

Donald Trump Antes Up On Immigration Stance

So, how big is the Phoenix Convention Center?

In the 4,200-capacity Phoenix convention center packed with flag-waving supporters, Trump took a different view — for a moment — and said: "I love the Mexican people. I love 'em. Many, many people from Mexico are legal. They came in the old-fashioned way. Legally."

He quickly returned to the sharp tone that has brought him scorn as well as praise. "I respect Mexico greatly as a country. But the problem we have is their leaders are much sharper than ours, and they're killing us at the border and they're killing us on trade."

His speeches in both venues were long on insults aimed at critics and short on solutions to the problems he cited. When he called for a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, the audience in Las Vegas groaned.


-and this detail is quite interesting:

As Trump lambasted Univision for cancelling its broadcast of the Miss USA pageant, one of his many business enterprises, a group of young Latinos unfurled a banner pointed toward the stage and began chanting insults. They were quickly drowned out by the crowd, and nearby Trump supporters began to grab at them, tearing at the banner and pulling and pushing at the protesters. Security staff managed to get to the group and escorted them out as Trump resumed speaking.

"I wonder if the Mexican government sent them over here," he said. "I think so."


Yes, we can see quite clearly that Trump is doing just excellently with Latinos.

Donald Trump storms Phoenix - Ben Schreckinger - POLITICO

A day later, he came to Arizona and said, “We have to stop illegal immigration. We have to. We have to,” to the cheers of 4,000 supporters.

On Monday, RNC Chairman Reince Preibus called Trump to congratulate him on his success and reportedly ask him to “tone it down.”

But Donald Trump only tones it in one direction: up...

...“They’re taking our jobs. They’re taking our manufacturing jobs. They’re taking our money. They’re killing us.”




-and-

“This crowd today blows away anything that Bernie Sanders has gotten,” Trump said (10,000 people recently came out to cheer Sanders in Madison, Wisconsin).
-and-

Ahead of the event, John McCain called Trump’s immigration comments “offensive.” Arizona’s other Republican senator, Jeff Flake, called his views “coarse, ill-informed and inaccurate.” News outlets and fact-checkers pointed out that Trump’s assertion — that the undocumented immigrants coming from Mexico are that country’s criminal element — appears to be flat wrong.

But while the press and the party condemn Trump’s rhetoric, many voters are eating it up. When Trump mentioned McCain, the crowd booed.


Trump blasts US immigration policy trade agenda Fox News

View attachment 44379

(Notice the number of attendees that FOX NEWS reported)

Trump's speeches were filled with tangents and insults leveled at business partners such as Univision and NBC that have dropped him in the wake of his comments that Mexican immigrants bring drugs and crime to the U.S. and are rapists. He also directed familiar barbs at other presidential contenders, including Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton ("the worst secretary of state in the history of the country"), news media figures ("lyin' Brian Williams") and President Barack Obama ("such a divisive person"). He called journalists "terrible people."


Trump We have to take back the heart of our country - The Washington Post

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, whose caustic comments about Mexicans have inflamed the immigration debate, told thousands of cheering supporters here Saturday that “we have to take back the heart of our country.”

In a rambling, defiant speech delivered in this border state that has been the epicenter of the nation’s divisive battle over immigration reform, Trump declared: “These are people that shouldn’t be in our country. They flow in like water.” One man in the crowd of 4,200 shouted back, “Build a wall!”

Basking in polls that show he has risen to the top of the crowded Republican field, Trump took obvious glee in mocking former Florida governor Jeb Bush, the establishment favorite who is setting fundraising records.

“Jeb Bush, let’s say he’s president — Oy, yoy, yoy,” Trump said. He asked the crowd: “How can I be tied with this guy? He’s terrible. Terrible. He’s weak on immigration.”

Trump’s 70-minute address here, which sounded more like a stream-of-consciousness rant than a presidential-style stump speech, put an exclamation point on his bombastic push since his presidential announcement last month to return immigration to the forefront of the national conversation.


-and-

Republican leaders say they believe the celebrity billionaire has virtually no chance of being their nominee, much less of making it to the White House. And, for now at least, his following seems limited to the far right as opposed to the party’s mainstream...

...Party leaders increasingly fear that Trump could do damage to more viable candidates, such as Bush, who could lose their own footing on immigration. These candidates confront a familiar challenge: During the primary season, they must deal with the anger and anxiety that many on the right feel about illegal immigration. But they must do it in a way that will not damage their appeal to a broader electorate in November 2016.

Republicans are handling Trump delicately for another reason as well: They fear that he could leave the GOP entirely and wage a well-funded third-party campaign, a possibility that Trump has not ruled out...

...But it was his crusade against illegal immigrants that had Trump’s crowd most enthused. After expressing shock that his immigration message has resonated so strongly with the GOP base, Trump said, “The silent majority is back, and we’re going to take the country back.” He walked off the stage to Twisted Sister’s “We’re Not Gonna Take It.”



More to come, this is just the beginning....

So, Don Trump had success in front of a crowd of Libertarians in Nevada and a bunch of white, hard-core Righties in Arizona. Now, let's see what his words do on the national stage, when he's not preaching to his own choir.

Discuss. How did yesterday go for Trump?


Nowhere did he say he's anti-immigration, your thread title is a lie. What would one expect from a clown like you though. Promise you'll never change your avatar, it's classic that you'd actually admit that
 
Anti illegal immigration....GFY.


You seem angry, but then again, you are a Rightie, I expect you to be angry.

Yawwwwwnnnn....
Not angry...simply dismissive or your mischarcterizations and lies. You are a Libtard drone.

Slight correction...a MINDLESS Libtard drone


Ahh, A SassyLesbiAss moment... interesting.

And you also lack the ability to actually read an OP.

Funny that.

I repeat, fug off, clown
 
First, here is the whole thing:




Second, tidbits from many sources:

Relishing polls Trump rails against U.S. presidential race rivals Reuters

His rally, originally planned for a hotel ballroom, was moved to a convention center after more than 9,000 people asked for tickets, organizers said.

Numbers inside the standing-room-only room were far smaller than that total, although Trump said "thousands" could not get in. Trump was joined at the rally by local sheriff Joe Arpaio, who has been sued by the Justice Department for racially profiling Latinos.


-and-

"I'm really smart," he said.

-and this detail may be especially interesting to note:
"The only thing I can tell you is that it is awakening the Hispanic community," said Eduardo Sainz, 22. "We're keeping a tally of who is on our side and who isn't. The Hispanic community won't forget in 2016."

Donald Trump Antes Up On Immigration Stance

So, how big is the Phoenix Convention Center?

In the 4,200-capacity Phoenix convention center packed with flag-waving supporters, Trump took a different view — for a moment — and said: "I love the Mexican people. I love 'em. Many, many people from Mexico are legal. They came in the old-fashioned way. Legally."

He quickly returned to the sharp tone that has brought him scorn as well as praise. "I respect Mexico greatly as a country. But the problem we have is their leaders are much sharper than ours, and they're killing us at the border and they're killing us on trade."

His speeches in both venues were long on insults aimed at critics and short on solutions to the problems he cited. When he called for a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, the audience in Las Vegas groaned.


-and this detail is quite interesting:

As Trump lambasted Univision for cancelling its broadcast of the Miss USA pageant, one of his many business enterprises, a group of young Latinos unfurled a banner pointed toward the stage and began chanting insults. They were quickly drowned out by the crowd, and nearby Trump supporters began to grab at them, tearing at the banner and pulling and pushing at the protesters. Security staff managed to get to the group and escorted them out as Trump resumed speaking.

"I wonder if the Mexican government sent them over here," he said. "I think so."


Yes, we can see quite clearly that Trump is doing just excellently with Latinos.

Donald Trump storms Phoenix - Ben Schreckinger - POLITICO

A day later, he came to Arizona and said, “We have to stop illegal immigration. We have to. We have to,” to the cheers of 4,000 supporters.

On Monday, RNC Chairman Reince Preibus called Trump to congratulate him on his success and reportedly ask him to “tone it down.”

But Donald Trump only tones it in one direction: up...

...“They’re taking our jobs. They’re taking our manufacturing jobs. They’re taking our money. They’re killing us.”




-and-

“This crowd today blows away anything that Bernie Sanders has gotten,” Trump said (10,000 people recently came out to cheer Sanders in Madison, Wisconsin).
-and-

Ahead of the event, John McCain called Trump’s immigration comments “offensive.” Arizona’s other Republican senator, Jeff Flake, called his views “coarse, ill-informed and inaccurate.” News outlets and fact-checkers pointed out that Trump’s assertion — that the undocumented immigrants coming from Mexico are that country’s criminal element — appears to be flat wrong.

But while the press and the party condemn Trump’s rhetoric, many voters are eating it up. When Trump mentioned McCain, the crowd booed.


Trump blasts US immigration policy trade agenda Fox News

View attachment 44379

(Notice the number of attendees that FOX NEWS reported)

Trump's speeches were filled with tangents and insults leveled at business partners such as Univision and NBC that have dropped him in the wake of his comments that Mexican immigrants bring drugs and crime to the U.S. and are rapists. He also directed familiar barbs at other presidential contenders, including Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton ("the worst secretary of state in the history of the country"), news media figures ("lyin' Brian Williams") and President Barack Obama ("such a divisive person"). He called journalists "terrible people."


Trump We have to take back the heart of our country - The Washington Post

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, whose caustic comments about Mexicans have inflamed the immigration debate, told thousands of cheering supporters here Saturday that “we have to take back the heart of our country.”

In a rambling, defiant speech delivered in this border state that has been the epicenter of the nation’s divisive battle over immigration reform, Trump declared: “These are people that shouldn’t be in our country. They flow in like water.” One man in the crowd of 4,200 shouted back, “Build a wall!”

Basking in polls that show he has risen to the top of the crowded Republican field, Trump took obvious glee in mocking former Florida governor Jeb Bush, the establishment favorite who is setting fundraising records.

“Jeb Bush, let’s say he’s president — Oy, yoy, yoy,” Trump said. He asked the crowd: “How can I be tied with this guy? He’s terrible. Terrible. He’s weak on immigration.”

Trump’s 70-minute address here, which sounded more like a stream-of-consciousness rant than a presidential-style stump speech, put an exclamation point on his bombastic push since his presidential announcement last month to return immigration to the forefront of the national conversation.


-and-

Republican leaders say they believe the celebrity billionaire has virtually no chance of being their nominee, much less of making it to the White House. And, for now at least, his following seems limited to the far right as opposed to the party’s mainstream...

...Party leaders increasingly fear that Trump could do damage to more viable candidates, such as Bush, who could lose their own footing on immigration. These candidates confront a familiar challenge: During the primary season, they must deal with the anger and anxiety that many on the right feel about illegal immigration. But they must do it in a way that will not damage their appeal to a broader electorate in November 2016.

Republicans are handling Trump delicately for another reason as well: They fear that he could leave the GOP entirely and wage a well-funded third-party campaign, a possibility that Trump has not ruled out...

...But it was his crusade against illegal immigrants that had Trump’s crowd most enthused. After expressing shock that his immigration message has resonated so strongly with the GOP base, Trump said, “The silent majority is back, and we’re going to take the country back.” He walked off the stage to Twisted Sister’s “We’re Not Gonna Take It.”



More to come, this is just the beginning....

So, Don Trump had success in front of a crowd of Libertarians in Nevada and a bunch of white, hard-core Righties in Arizona. Now, let's see what his words do on the national stage, when he's not preaching to his own choir.

Discuss. How did yesterday go for Trump?


Nowhere did he say he's anti-immigration, your thread title is a lie. What would one expect from a clown like you though. Promise you'll never change your avatar, it's classic that you'd actually admit that
 
Anti illegal immigration....GFY.


You seem angry, but then again, you are a Rightie, I expect you to be angry.

Yawwwwwnnnn....
Not angry...simply dismissive or your mischarcterizations and lies. You are a Libtard drone.


Yes, you are angry.

Now, can you concentrate for more than one millisecond on the topic of the OP, or is that just too difficult for you?
The topic of the op IS the lie...you insufferable twit.
 
Anti illegal immigration....GFY.


You seem angry, but then again, you are a Rightie, I expect you to be angry.

Yawwwwwnnnn....
Not angry...simply dismissive or your mischarcterizations and lies. You are a Libtard drone.


Yes, you are angry.

Now, can you concentrate for more than one millisecond on the topic of the OP, or is that just too difficult for you?
The topic of the op IS the lie...you insufferable twit.

Time after time these clowns start a thread, based on a lie, then wonder why they promptly get stuffed.
 
Anti illegal immigration....GFY.

Don't expect the left to ever tell the truth. they don't have anything else to run by LIES, dirt and smears

of course its ANTI-ILLEGAL immigration. they will crawl as low as they have to for the PARTY
 
Anti illegal immigration....GFY.


You seem angry, but then again, you are a Rightie, I expect you to be angry.

Yawwwwwnnnn....
Not angry...simply dismissive or your mischarcterizations and lies. You are a Libtard drone.

Slight correction...a MINDLESS Libtard drone


Ahh, A SassyLesbiAss moment... interesting.

And you also lack the ability to actually read an OP.

Funny that.

I repeat, fug off, clown


Funny how butthurt Righties think they can give commands. I started this thread. If you don't like it here, you don't have to stay here. Really, it will take hours to remove the place of your SassyLesbiAss stench, to begin with.

But since you are so smart, you can show us how good you are at math.

Donald Trump claims that at least 9,000 people already bought tickets to see him, which is why he changed locations. But the other location in Arizona only held a maximum of 4,200 people, standing room only, no seats. FOX (a Right Wing suck rag) reports that only 3,500 were there. So, now, put on your little thinking cap, you know, the one you never wear, and tell the class how many people whom Trump claims already bought tickets didn't get in!!!

The guy is a fake, a liar, a hoot.

Enjoy this month. When Scott Walker enters, he will then become the flavor of the month, just like it was in 2011.

:D
 
Anti illegal immigration....GFY.

Don't expect the left to ever tell the truth. they don't have anything else to run by LIES, dirt and smears

of course its ANTI-ILLEGAL immigration. they will crawl as low as they have to for the PARTY


OMG OMG FRIKKEN FRIKKEN ANTI-ILLEGAL FICKEN SCHNICKKEN, run by LIES GAWD thay'v gawt two gow GAWD.
 

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