Some people say that MAGA members are not willing to change. I disagree.

[Kilroy2]

MAGA is just a fad or the latest bandwagon. He just took a page out of Regan. Create a bandwagon, name it and milk it dry

There was Reaganomics,

History of the name is telling

first appeared in American politics in 1848 when Dan Rice, a famous and popular circus clown of the time,
used his bandwagon and its music to gain attention for campaign appearances.

Bandwagon - Political Dictionary

To be on the “bandwagon” is to follow a group that has a large and growing number of followers. A bandwagon is literally a wagon …

politicaldictionary.com

appropriate name for the Trump circus led by the head clown

Bandwagon - Political Dictionary

To be on the “bandwagon” is to follow a group that has a large and growing number of followers. A bandwagon is literally a wagon …

politicaldictionary.com

Trump just stole something created in 1848 and appropriate from a circus clown

and the crowd goes crazy

Then he steals reganomics but names it "Make America great"
Then adds again on his 2nd run

3+ Hundred Trump Clown Royalty-Free Images, Stock Photos ... - Yahoo Image Search Results

 

[SaxonJackson]

Some people say that MAGA members are not willing to change. I disagree.

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While manufacturers of blue hair dye and nose rings are getting rich off of the lefty loons ... Botox suppliers are making bank off the Globalist, warmonger neocons.

Who said Capitalism is dead in the USA?

 

[sealybobo]

Some people say that MAGA members are not willing to change. I disagree.

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You forgot a big one

 

[sealybobo]

MAGA is just a fad or the latest bandwagon. He just took a page out of Regan. Create a bandwagon, name it and milk it dry

There was Reaganomics,

History of the name is telling

first appeared in American politics in 1848 when Dan Rice, a famous and popular circus clown of the time,
used his bandwagon and its music to gain attention for campaign appearances.

Bandwagon - Political Dictionary

To be on the “bandwagon” is to follow a group that has a large and growing number of followers. A bandwagon is literally a wagon …

politicaldictionary.com

appropriate name for the Trump circus led by the head clown

Bandwagon - Political Dictionary

To be on the “bandwagon” is to follow a group that has a large and growing number of followers. A bandwagon is literally a wagon …

politicaldictionary.com

Trump just stole something created in 1848 and appropriate from a circus clown

and the crowd goes crazy

Then he steals reganomics but names it "Make America great"
Then adds again on his 2nd run

3+ Hundred Trump Clown Royalty-Free Images, Stock Photos ... - Yahoo Image Search Results

Trump is a thief. Whoever is in charge, Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller, are brilliant. Every issue.

Trump stole blue collar workers. The GOP is not the party for the GOP but they believe Trump is going to fix America for them. And even after it's shown he has made affordability worse, he wags the dog and now the grand scheme is world domination. And even I'm falling for it. China and Russia are being imperialistic so why shouldn't we? Why is Russia in Venezuela or Cuba? That's our hemesphere. And Ukraine is in Russia's. We need to get out of Ukraine now. Mind our own business. But in Greenland and Cuba, we just take them. Imperialism

Since Russia and China are doing it.

We actually started it when idiot Bush invaded Iraq. Lied us into a war. Trump's at least not lying. We want their natural resources. And we want Russia and China out.

America has been doing this ever since we became the leaders of the free world. Before us it was Great Brittan. Rome. I thought we weren't doing this shit anymore. The UN was making the world a more peaceful place. But that doesn't change Iran, China, Russia's bad behavior. They aren't in the club.

A part of me wishes we had one world government. So no one STATE moves on another state. The Central government wouldn't allow it.

I'm certain the human race is going to destroy itself fighting over natural resources.

But regime change in Iran? Doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. Cuba? Maybe it's time to PULL them into the 21st century. GAZA? That should be prime real estate not inhabited by poor desert dwellers.

 

[Papageorgio]

Trump is a thief. Whoever is in charge, Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller, are brilliant. Every issue.

Trump stole blue collar workers. The GOP is not the party for the GOP but they believe Trump is going to fix America for them. And even after it's shown he has made affordability worse, he wags the dog and now the grand scheme is world domination. And even I'm falling for it. China and Russia are being imperialistic so why shouldn't we? Why is Russia in Venezuela or Cuba? That's our hemesphere. And Ukraine is in Russia's. We need to get out of Ukraine now. Mind our own business. But in Greenland and Cuba, we just take them. Imperialism

Since Russia and China are doing it.

We actually started it when idiot Bush invaded Iraq. Lied us into a war. Trump's at least not lying. We want their natural resources. And we want Russia and China out.

America has been doing this ever since we became the leaders of the free world. Before us it was Great Brittan. Rome. I thought we weren't doing this shit anymore. The UN was making the world a more peaceful place. But that doesn't change Iran, China, Russia's bad behavior. They aren't in the club.

A part of me wishes we had one world government. So no one STATE moves on another state. The Central government wouldn't allow it.

I'm certain the human race is going to destroy itself fighting over natural resources.

But regime change in Iran? Doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. Cuba? Maybe it's time to PULL them into the 21st century. GAZA? That should be prime real estate not inhabited by poor desert dwellers.

We tried to buy Greenland under Truman, Denmark didn’t want to sell then but we kept our troops there anyway.

 

[sealybobo]

We tried to buy Greenland under Truman, Denmark didn’t want to sell then but we kept our troops there anyway.

And I'm sure we asked them if we could. And I'm sure if they said no we would have left.

Good point.

That's why nothing Trump does shocks me. It's all been done before. Maybe not in America, but everything he does is something that's been done before. And the world survived.

One great example. Ukraine. Boy did I care about that last year huh? Today, who gives a shit? After what we did in Venezuela, why did we waste any time or money on Ukraine? Now we're Russia too. Just take it.

 

[sealybobo]

Remember we worried what if China took Taiwan? Now I'm just wondering when.

 

[ElmerMudd]

You forgot a big one

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Thank you, I forgot another Trump supporter who is off the rails on changing.
Caitlen - Bruce Jenner has expressed concern about the country's future without Trump, saying, "if Trump doesn't get re-elected, 'That's the end of the country'," showing continued conservative leanings despite past disagreements.

 

[ElmerMudd]

While manufacturers of blue hair dye and nose rings are getting rich off of the lefty loons ... Botox suppliers are making bank off the Globalist, warmonger neocons.

Who said Capitalism is dead in the USA?

The loons spending large amounts of money, to change their looks, are on all sides of the political spectrum. That is too complex for you to comprehend.
Your life is very simple, everything and everybody for Trump, good. everything and everybody against Trump, bad. That is MAGA word not the real world..

 

[SaxonJackson]

The loons spending large amounts of money, to change their looks, are on all sides of the political spectrum. That is too complex for you to comprehend.
Your life is very simple, everything and everybody for Trump, good. everything and everybody against Trump, bad. That is MAGA word not the real world..

You very clearly have NO IDEA what you're talking about. Ask the neocon RINOs if I'm "pro-Trump." I was for "campaign Trump" in a big way. That changed when he announced that he no longer needed my support and that I was "weak" for wanting justice for the Epstein victims. The fact of the matter is that he's too weak to go after the Pedos who will get away with their crimes.

 

[ElmerMudd]

You very clearly have NO IDEA what you're talking about. Ask the neocon RINOs if I'm "pro-Trump." I was for "campaign Trump" in a big way. That changed when he announced that he no longer needed my support and that I was "weak" for wanting justice for the Epstein victims. The fact of the matter is that he's too weak to go after the Pedos who will get away with their crimes.

I applaud you for thinking individually on the Epstein issue.

 

[sealybobo]

You very clearly have NO IDEA what you're talking about. Ask the neocon RINOs if I'm "pro-Trump." I was for "campaign Trump" in a big way. That changed when he announced that he no longer needed my support and that I was "weak" for wanting justice for the Epstein victims. The fact of the matter is that he's too weak to go after the Pedos who will get away with their crimes.

Do you realize you are the ONLY person I know who left Trump after the Epstein fiasco? Good for you. Or when Trump jacked up prices with his tariffs? All my buddies who cried about prices in 2024, bent over and took it from Trump.
Trump said if you are a little ***** over the Epstein files, I don't want your support. And all the people who cared so much about the Epstein file, suddenly got in line. Now Trump's justice department wants the Clinton's to come testify? OMG, if I were them I would not **** with the Trump administration. Not after they went after him and tried to "lock him up", which they would have never done. But with that felony he could have potentially went to jail. So I wouldn't **** with Trump. I would just show up to Congress and **** with them.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Do you realize you are the ONLY person I know who left Trump after the Epstein fiasco? Good for you. Or when Trump jacked up prices with his tariffs? All my buddies who cried about prices in 2024, bent over and took it from Trump.
Trump said if you are a little ***** over the Epstein files, I don't want your support. And all the people who cared so much about the Epstein file, suddenly got in line. Now Trump's justice department wants the Clinton's to come testify? OMG, if I were them I would not **** with the Trump administration. Not after they went after him and tried to "lock him up", which they would have never done. But with that felony he could have potentially went to jail. So I wouldn't **** with Trump. I would just show up to Congress and **** with them.

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I had to swallow a LOT of pride to admit that I (all of us) had been duped. We were all conned. We were all lied to. "Campaign Trump" and "President Trump" are almost 180°, polar opposites.

1) He cancelled DOGE then added $3.4 Trillion to the national debt. Infuriating!
2) While Americans are struggling to get by and while there are more than 30,000 homeless veterans, he continued and continues to send $Billions to numerous foreign beggars.
3) He (and his cronies in the DOJ and FBI) outright lied about Epstein's death and about releasing the files that would expose lots of rich donors, politicians, foreign dignitaries, Hollywood types, and who knows who else.
4) He continues to claim that the Covid vaccine was the greatest thing since apple pie and refuses to admit that it was a scam, a farce, and a failed experiment.
5) His DOJ lapdog, Bondi, continues to attack the Second Amendment in various subtle and not-so-subtle ways.
6) Trump wanted to be remembered as "the President of Peace." We all know how THAT's going. What a joke.
7) Trump claimed that Maduro was taken out because of drug trafficking while pardoning 3 drug traffickers who had been sentenced to at least 25 years each for said crime. A schizophrenic chain of contractions (if you ask me). But at least he finally admitted that he simply wanted their oil.
8) Trump is far more interested in serving the demands of Israel than the demands of his employers: the American people.
9) Although I believe that we need to deport illegals and seal the border, I believe that using Police State tactics against legitimate Americans is the wrong approach.

You and I are likely pretty far apart, politically speaking, but we likely agree that Trump is a dangerous conman who talks out of two sides of his mouth. He's the most narcissistic, boastful, childish loudmouth I've ever heard. I've never actually liked listening to him speak and I've never liked his personality. I simply voted for most of his campaign promises. Admittedly ... I was played like a fiddle.

 

[sealybobo]

I had to swallow a LOT of pride to admit that I (all of us) had been duped. We were all conned. We were all lied to. "Campaign Trump" and "President Trump" are almost 180°, polar opposites.

1) He cancelled DOGE then added $3.4 Trillion to the national debt. Infuriating!
2) While Americans are struggling to get by and while there are more than 30,000 homeless veterans, he continued and continues to send $Billions to numerous foreign beggars.
3) He (and his cronies in the DOJ and FBI) outright lied about Epstein's death and about releasing the files that would expose lots of rich donors, politicians, foreign dignitaries, Hollywood types, and who knows who else.
4) He continues to claim that the Covid vaccine was the greatest thing since apple pie and refuses to admit that it was a scam, a farce, and a failed experiment.
5) His DOJ lapdog, Bondi, continues to attack the Second Amendment in various subtle and not-so-subtle ways.
6) Trump wanted to be remembered as "the President of Peace." We all know how THAT's going. What a joke.
7) Trump claimed that Maduro was taken out because of drug trafficking while pardoning 3 drug traffickers who had been sentenced to at least 25 years each for said crime. A schizophrenic chain of contractions (if you ask me). But at least he finally admitted that he simply wanted their oil.
8) Trump is far more interested in serving the demands of Israel than the demands of his employers: the American people.
9) Although I believe that we need to deport illegals and seal the border, I believe that using Police State tactics against legitimate Americans is the wrong approach.

You and I are likely pretty far apart, politically speaking, but we likely agree that Trump is a dangerous conman who talks out of two sides of his mouth. He's the most narcissistic, boastful, childish loudmouth I've ever heard. I've never actually liked listening to him speak and I've never liked his personality. I simply voted for most of his campaign promises. Admittedly ... I was played like a fiddle.

#5. Do you mean 1st amendment?

 

[SaxonJackson]

#5. Do you mean 1st amendment?

That too! Once 1 and 2 are destroyed ... the rest will rapidly follow suit.

 

[sealybobo]

That too! Once 1 and 2 are destroyed ... the rest will rapidly follow suit.

I love it when he said this back in 2018 and Republicans said he didn't mean it

“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida … to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.

 

[SaxonJackson]

I love it when he said this back in 2018 and Republicans said he didn't mean it

“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida … to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.

That was a major red flag (no pun intended since he also suggested the "red flag laws") for me. And I had forgotten about him making that statement. Admittedly, I voted for Trump, in part, to keep Harris out. If you're as honest about her as I am about Trump then you had to know that she was a poor choice made by the Democrats.

 

[sealybobo]

That was a major red flag (no pun intended since he also suggested the "red flag laws") for me. And I had forgotten about him making that statement. Admittedly, I voted for Trump, in part, to keep Harris out. If you're as honest about her as I am about Trump then you had to know that she was a poor choice made by the Democrats.

Harris would have been a great president. The right would never admit to that though. They/you can't even see Joe did a freakin good job considering what Trump handed him.

Ever notice that? Democrats win when the economy is shit. Look at Obama. We handed him the greatest recession since the great depression and what he did was never good enough for Republicans.

Hillary should have beat Trump in 2016. Why not? Her husband was one of the greatest presidents of all time. And the funny thing is REPUBLICANS said she was too hawkish. Now look at them. Cheering as Trump nation builds, regime changes, all the things they said HILLARY would do. No she wouldn't have.

Last. Gore should have beat Bush. I think America got stupid and really fucked ourselves by voting for BUSH, because they could see themselves drinking a beer with him more than Gore. He was more relatable. That's why JD Vance will never win. He's not Trump or Bill Clinton.

Now I know you are going to argue. You probably don't believe in man made climate change. But honestly, based on the job his boss did, Gore should have won in 2000. Bush invading Iraq is a HUGE reason we are in the mess we are in today. Even if Saddam is a bad man. Now Putin feels he can invade Ukraine. What can we say about it?

Don't believe me?

"I think Bill Clinton was a great president,’" Trump said in the interview that was conducted shortly after the 2008 presidential election on NY1's "Inside City Hall" program.

"You know, you look at the country then. The economy was doing great. Look at what happened during the Clinton years. I mean we had no war, the economy was doing great, everybody was happy. A lot of people hated him because they were jealous as hell,’" Trump said.

The world wouldn't be burning if Kamala won. But Republicans would be telling us it was.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Harris would have been a great president. The right would never admit to that though. They/you can't even see Joe did a freakin good job considering what Trump handed him.

Ever notice that? Democrats win when the economy is shit. Look at Obama. We handed him the greatest recession since the great depression and what he did was never good enough for Republicans.

Hillary should have beat Trump in 2016. Why not? Her husband was one of the greatest presidents of all time. And the funny thing is REPUBLICANS said she was too hawkish. Now look at them. Cheering as Trump nation builds, regime changes, all the things they said HILLARY would do. No she wouldn't have.

Last. Gore should have beat Bush. I think America got stupid and really fucked ourselves by voting for BUSH, because they could see themselves drinking a beer with him more than Gore. He was more relatable. That's why JD Vance will never win. He's not Trump or Bill Clinton.

Now I know you are going to argue. You probably don't believe in man made climate change. But honestly, based on the job his boss did, Gore should have won in 2000. Bush invading Iraq is a HUGE reason we are in the mess we are in today. Even if Saddam is a bad man. Now Putin feels he can invade Ukraine. What can we say about it?

Don't believe me?

"I think Bill Clinton was a great president,’" Trump said in the interview that was conducted shortly after the 2008 presidential election on NY1's "Inside City Hall" program.

"You know, you look at the country then. The economy was doing great. Look at what happened during the Clinton years. I mean we had no war, the economy was doing great, everybody was happy. A lot of people hated him because they were jealous as hell,’" Trump said.

The world wouldn't be burning if Kamala won. But Republicans would be telling us it was.

This is where we completely disagree. Biden was certifiably braindead. He routinely slurred his words; forgot where he was and what he was doing; wandered off in the wrong direction; tripped over pure air; he couldn't pronounce words that were more than two syllables long (and he even tripped over a few two syllable words). He was simply a figure head who didn't even sign his own documents most of the time. No ... he was horrible President and you should be able to admit it just like I can admit that Trump is horrible.

Kamala was simply a joke. She couldn't even be the President of the Girl Scouts. She openly announced her economic plan that wasn't even a plan. It was a jumbled, glued together series of Socialist talking points that would make Trump's current plan seem golden in comparison. She was incredibly "woke" and her philosophy would have shredded any remaining moral fabric of this nation. As bad as Trump has turned out to be ... I'd still vote for him before voting for Kamala. We literally dodged a bullet where she is concerned.

 

[sealybobo]

This is where we completely disagree. Biden was certifiably braindead. He routinely slurred his words; forgot where he was and what he was doing; wandered off in the wrong direction; tripped over pure air; he couldn't pronounce words that were more than two syllables long (and he even tripped over a few two syllable words). He was simply a figure head who didn't even sign his own documents most of the time. No ... he was horrible President and you should be able to admit it just like I can admit that Trump is horrible.

Kamala was simply a joke. She couldn't even be the President of the Girl Scouts. She openly announced her economic plan that wasn't even a plan. It was a jumbled, glued together series of Socialist talking points that would make Trump's current plan seem golden in comparison. She was incredibly "woke" and her philosophy would have shredded any remaining moral fabric of this nation. As bad as Trump has turned out to be ... I'd still vote for him before voting for Kamala. We literally dodged a bullet where she is concerned.

It doesn't matter that Biden passed his expiration date. I like his adminstrations agenda. For middle class people.

I'm not going to get into it. You'll never agree or understand. I'm glad you aren't MAGA anymore but you are still confused.

Yesterday my MAGA friends and brother told me things are not expensive. My brother uses a couch he just bought as an example. I show them indeed that brand of couch went up in price. 8% in their stores and a lot more for retailers who carry their brand.

Instead of acknowledging the facts I present, one of the MAGA idiots replied back "sealybobo, why do you care how much your brother paid for his couch. You are sleeping on it for free".

So they just chose to ignore the fact that yes, Trump's tariffs raised the prices of EVERYTHING.

And here is the kicker. We are now back to the Bush years. When things were bad then, Republicans blamed US for spending too much. Not being better savers. Being HORRIBLE with our finances.

How come Trump didn't chastise consumers in 2024 and tell them inflation isn't a problem they just spend too much? OH YEA, he actually did. Remember he told us this year we might only be able to buy 2 dolls not 27 dolls. We don't need 27 dolls.

Basically, now that THEY are in charge, they don't give a rats ass about affordability. Why? Because my MAGA friends have lots of money.

Trump duped uneducated blue collar workers into voting for him. I'm just glad you woke up. Even if you are still in low rem sleep mode. Maybe if I yell WAKE UP you will fully wake up.