Solid jobs growth, 3 times is a trend

[The Rabbi]

No, seriously. Why do you use made up numbers?

We don't have $16T in debt. There isn't $5 a gallon gas. We don't have a $1.5T deficit.

Housing has not dropped 40% since Obama took office and we have not lost 7 million jobs in that time either.

If you want to be taken seriously, take a minute and look up real numbers before you post.

if they say it often enough, maybe someone will believe them...

That's certainly Obama's re-election strategy.

 

[hortysir]

No, seriously. Why do you use made up numbers?

1)We don't have $16T in debt. 2)There isn't $5 a gallon gas. 3)We don't have a $1.5T deficit.

Housing has not dropped 40% since Obama took office and we have not lost 7 million jobs in that time either.

4)If you want to be taken seriously, take a minute and look up real numbers before you post.

1)As of March 1, 2012 the gross debt was $15.501 trillion, of which $10.756 trillion was held by the public and $4.745 trillion was intragovernmental holdings
United States public debt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(good enough link?)


2)

The Shocking Photo the Obama Administration Doesn't Want You to See! | The Weekly Standard

3) Okay, so it's $1.3T
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

4) Ditto!!

 

[thereisnospoon]

Solid Jobs Growth: 3 Times Is a Trend | Daniel Gross - Yahoo! Finance

As well as the almost 4 million new jobs and countless saved jobs while the pubs have yet to introduce even one jobs bill. Almost 3 years of economic growth while the pubs filibuster all the jobs and economy bills.

Yep, that's a trend all right and it would continue right into a depression if a pub got elected.

Hopefully, more Dems will be elected so we can continue and speed up this growth. Then the damn pubs can take their constant filibusters and put it where the sun don't shine.

Dude...Really? If 4 million more people are working( and I consider only full time hired people to have jobs..part time temporary does not cut it)
The unemployment rate would be down to 5%..U-6 would be under 10%..
Where these people get these numbers is a mystery.
Just a few months ago, the cause of the day was to complain about how much money on which the private sector was sitting.
"They won't hire!!!!!", you people whined. You vilified the private sector, Wall Street and anyone else you could think of. You hated the idea that local and state governments were laying off workers....
The BLS sends out these numbers that quite frankly do not even reach the level of incredible and suddenly the private sector is the Left's best friend.
Please.
Just because a bunch of bureaucrats spew some figures does not mean they are accurate.
Especially in light of the fact that these figures just do not add up.
It was stated not long ago that the country would have to add 400,000 jobs per month for the unemployment rate to fall to where it was 6 years ago.
Based on the fact that the U-3 unemployment rate is still above 8%, where Obama stated it would not rise above if the Congress approved the stimulus, there is no way these millions of jobs have been added. I know lots of people who have been looking seriously looking for work and while they are working part time contract or temp jobs, they still struggle to find full time permanent jobs. And this is a region that got off easy as far as job loss is concerned. A 2% increase in GDP is not growth. It's near stagnation.
Which jobs and economic Bills might those be? The ones that no one but you seem to know about? Another stimulus( Tax increase) ? Forget it.
GO find some facts and check back.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Why do you keep using made up numbers?

Because that's all the government will provide.

No, seriously. Why do you use made up numbers?

We don't have $16T in debt. There isn't $5 a gallon gas. We don't have a $1.5T deficit.

Housing has not dropped 40% since Obama took office and we have not lost 7 million jobs in that time either.

If you want to be taken seriously, take a minute and look up real numbers before you post.

the projected 10 year deficit is almost $16 trillion. And yes in some places gas is approaching $5 per gallon.
Charlotte Map Gas Prices - Find the Lowest Charlotte Gas Prices on a Map..
Type in city. You'll see a map of all stations reported by users.
IN San Francisco for example, regular gas in the $4.50 to $4.60 range. It may as well be five bucks. At $4.50 it would cost $90 for a 20 gallon fill up. At $5 it's $10 more.
Money is like snow....Once it's over 3 feet ,it doesn't matter anymore.
You libs are ignoring the facts because they scare the shit out of you. You make up stuff to make yourselves feel better about Obama's reelection chances.
That's fine.

 

[Oldstyle]

If you are even reasonably intelligent, the fact that this Administration had to invent a new economic statistic..."jobs saved"...is a dead giveaway as to their total failure at creating jobs.

The Obama Stimulus will cost over a trillion dollars by the time we get done paying for it. For THAT kind of money you'd like to think we'd have gotten jobs "created" and not "saved".

 

[Too Tall]

Why do you keep using made up numbers?

Because that's all the government will provide.

No, seriously. Why do you use made up numbers?

We don't have $16T in debt. There isn't $5 a gallon gas. We don't have a $1.5T deficit.

Housing has not dropped 40% since Obama took office and we have not lost 7 million jobs in that time either.

If you want to be taken seriously, take a minute and look up real numbers before you post.

Here are some real numbers for you.

WASHINGTON - A new estimate from congressional economists says the government will run a $1.2 trillion deficit for the budget year ending just a few weeks before Election Day. It would be the fourth straight year of trillion dollar-plus deficits.
The almost $100 billion spike from earlier projections for the fiscal 2012 deficit comes almost exclusively because Congress passed legislation recommended by President Barack Obama to renew a 2 percentage point cut in payroll taxes and jobless benefits for people languishing on unemployment rolls for more than six months.
Last year's deficit registered $1.3 trillion.
As of March 2, our national debt was $14.79 trillion and going up continuously.

$14.79 T + $1.2 T = $15.99 T. Almost $16 T by the end of the fiscal year 2012.

The collapse of real estate lies at the heart of America’s economic problems. House prices have plunged 30 percent since 2006. The drop has wiped out $7 trillion in homeowners’ equity. Millions of construction workers have lost jobs.

Now you can blame Bush.

 

[Oldstyle]

What you should keep in mind about gas prices is that governmental policy NOW will be reflected several years down the road. Oil production is up substantially on privately controlled lands but is down on Federally controlled lands thanks to the anti-drilling folks Barry installed at the departments of Energy, the Interior and the EPA. What we have to look forward to is more increases over the next few years due to Barry's anti-fossil fuel bias. That's if he loses come next November. If he wins another term then I think we're well on our way towards that $6 a gallon gas that both Barry and Steven Chu think would be so "good" for the country.

 

[thereisnospoon]

$16T in debt:
National Debt Tops $14 Trillion - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
That was the end of 2010. I'm sure it's up to 16 by now.

So you just admitted you don't even know. You haven't even bothered to check. Wow.

$5 gas:

When was this taken? During Bush's time we saw prices that high but they are not there now. I live in L.A. and we have the most expensive gas in the country and our Premium isn't even at $5.

Housing down:
http://www.standardandpoors.com/ser...alue3=abinary;+charset=UTF-8&blobnocache=true

Did you read that link? Because on page 3 it has a chart showing housing prices since 1987 and it CLEARLY shows that since early 2009, prices have NOT dropped by the 40% you are claiming.

Really. Are you this stupid or just pretending to be?

This coming from the guy who is posting links that disprove his own claims.

ON average, the US Housing market has lost 10 years of equity.
Prices continue to fall albeit not as rapidly. For example.....In my neighborhood which is classified as "stable", average days on market has exceeded one year. Homes are selling at 90% of asking price which is very low.
Also, market value has fallen below tax value.
If you consider that an improving housing market, more power to ya.

 

[Too Tall]

$16T in debt:
National Debt Tops $14 Trillion - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
That was the end of 2010. I'm sure it's up to 16 by now.

So you just admitted you don't even know. You haven't even bothered to check. Wow.

$5 gas:

When was this taken? During Bush's time we saw prices that high but they are not there now. I live in L.A. and we have the most expensive gas in the country and our Premium isn't even at $5.

Housing down:
http://www.standardandpoors.com/ser...alue3=abinary;+charset=UTF-8&blobnocache=true

Did you read that link? Because on page 3 it has a chart showing housing prices since 1987 and it CLEARLY shows that since early 2009, prices have NOT dropped by the 40% you are claiming.

Really. Are you this stupid or just pretending to be?

This coming from the guy who is posting links that disprove his own claims.

Check out the price of $5.99 a gallon for regular in LA at this link;

California Gas Prices - Find Cheap Gas Prices in California

 

[The Rabbi]

And Dontbestupid has left the building.

 

[hortysir]

And Dontbestupid has left the building.

Which tends to happen when one's ass is handed to them

 

[The Rabbi]

Even if he wants to argue that the deficit is 15.5T vs 16T is that really a record to be proud of?

 

[DontBeStupid]

15.5T. If you want to claim it isn't 16T then you're grossly dishonest.

Yes. 15.5 =/= 16.0 Clearly I'm being dishonest.

http://www.standardandpoors.com/spf/docs/case-shiller/CSHomePrice_Release_013118.pdf
High mark of 225 to present 150. 34% down. That's close enough to 40 for me.
You are a stupid dishonest fuck.

That high point of 225 was in late 2006.

Who was president in 2006?

Hint: Not Obama.

 

[DontBeStupid]

Because that's all the government will provide.

No, seriously. Why do you use made up numbers?

We don't have $16T in debt. There isn't $5 a gallon gas. We don't have a $1.5T deficit.

Housing has not dropped 40% since Obama took office and we have not lost 7 million jobs in that time either.

If you want to be taken seriously, take a minute and look up real numbers before you post.

Here are some real numbers for you.

WASHINGTON - A new estimate from congressional economists says the government will run a $1.2 trillion deficit for the budget year ending just a few weeks before Election Day. It would be the fourth straight year of trillion dollar-plus deficits.
The almost $100 billion spike from earlier projections for the fiscal 2012 deficit comes almost exclusively because Congress passed legislation recommended by President Barack Obama to renew a 2 percentage point cut in payroll taxes and jobless benefits for people languishing on unemployment rolls for more than six months.
Last year's deficit registered $1.3 trillion.
As of March 2, our national debt was $14.79 trillion and going up continuously.

$14.79 T + $1.2 T = $15.99 T. Almost $16 T by the end of the fiscal year 2012.

The collapse of real estate lies at the heart of America’s economic problems. House prices have plunged 30 percent since 2006. The drop has wiped out $7 trillion in homeowners’ equity. Millions of construction workers have lost jobs.

Now you can blame Bush.

1) You didn't provide a link.
2) I never said it would never hit $16T. Clearly it will. But that doesn't mean that it's $16T today, which is what was claimed.

 

[thereisnospoon]

No, seriously. Why do you use made up numbers?

We don't have $16T in debt. There isn't $5 a gallon gas. We don't have a $1.5T deficit.

Housing has not dropped 40% since Obama took office and we have not lost 7 million jobs in that time either.

If you want to be taken seriously, take a minute and look up real numbers before you post.

Here are some real numbers for you.



$14.79 T + $1.2 T = $15.99 T. Almost $16 T by the end of the fiscal year 2012.

The collapse of real estate lies at the heart of America’s economic problems. House prices have plunged 30 percent since 2006. The drop has wiped out $7 trillion in homeowners’ equity. Millions of construction workers have lost jobs.

Now you can blame Bush.

1) You didn't provide a link.
2) I never said it would never hit $16T. Clearly it will. But that doesn't mean that it's $16T today, which is what was claimed.

Three things.....Obama is on office, the economy is in the shitter and you're paying $4.50 per gallon for regular ( don't bother denying the gas price because I looked)...
All this and you are HAPPY with Obama?
You must be living in a parallel universe.

 

[frazzledgear]

Solid Jobs Growth: 3 Times Is a Trend | Daniel Gross - Yahoo! Finance

As well as the almost 4 million new jobs and countless saved jobs while the pubs have yet to introduce even one jobs bill. Almost 3 years of economic growth while the pubs filibuster all the jobs and economy bills.

Yep, that's a trend all right and it would continue right into a depression if a pub got elected.

Hopefully, more Dems will be elected so we can continue and speed up this growth. Then the damn pubs can take their constant filibusters and put it where the sun don't shine.

Republicans took the House in 2010 on the campaign promise to put an end to Obama's job killing, anti-business agenda. Democrats still control the bulk of government given they control the White House and the Senate. Not ONE Republican was elected on the promise he/she would go to Washington and compromise with Democrats, assist Democrats, fall in line with Democrats or help promote Obama's political agenda in any way. Not one -so I am always flummoxed when Democrats insist when Republicans control a house of Congress, they are supposed to "compromise" -but when Democrats get the majority, it means they have a "mandate" to do as they damn well please and ram through any fucking monstrosity of a bill down the throats of the people against their will. No Republicans were elected to pass another damn "jobs" bill -and only moronic liberals are stupid enough to believe that if a bill is given a nice touchy-feely title, why that is proof positive it would actually DO what the title says. ROFL It is why Obama calls his call for another round of stimulus (political kickback and payoffs) spending "jobs bill" instead. Same bullshit with a new title ain't going to make it work better -especially given the fact we already have an UNSUSTAINABLE LEVEL OF DEBT and those who are calling for even more spending -are dangerous to this nation because it must be assumed their real goal is the financial collapse of this country. You same moronic liberals complained nonstop about the level of spending during Bush's last two years (which was actually done by the Democrat controlled Congress) -yet seem to think if a Democrat quadruples the rate of that spending, then it must be WONDERFUL! All your opinions are determined by only ONE thing -whether the individual proposing it, doing it or pushing it has a D or an R after their name. That's it. That actually doesn't work for me -and I'm sorry to inform you, it is not a sign of intelligence. No matter how often you tell yourself otherwise. LOL

Since government is the PROBLEM with our economy, more government, more micro-managing, more regulation -is not the answer. Democrats cannot think outside the box. No matter the issue, no matter the problem -their answer is always the exact same thing and it is always the ONLY thing they can ever come up with, insisting it is always going to be the ONLY answer and the best answer. More and bigger and more powerful government. I have bad news for you -rarely, RARELY is bigger and more powerful government ever going to be the only answer. And even less often than that will it ever be the best answer.

I mentioned before your stupid, out of context quote of John Mills. a 19th century British philosopher. The fact you believe this quote somehow applies to US conservatives only shows how fucking stupid you really are. Do you even understand the use of the word -are you REALLY under the impression that "conservative" means the same thing around the world or something? REALLY? The word "conservative" refers to someone who believes there should be little or conservative deviation from some doctrine or document. But it isn't the SAME doctrine all around the world! ROFL A US conservative believes any deviation from the US Constitution should be done CONSERVATIVELY. Do you think an Iranian conservative believes the same thing -that they too should deviate only conservatively from the US Constitution? ROFL Or maybe it is a Russian conservative who believes that about Russia? A Cuban conservative maybe? Or how about a British one -think a British conservative thinks Britain's government should deviate only conservatively from the US Constitution too? Your continued decision to bastardize his words in order to pretend he was actually talking about US conservatives more than a century later -only shows your own lack of integrity and moral bankruptcy. Your bastardization of his words says far more about YOU than anything about modern US conservatives.

And I would only point out liberals are constantly insisting "smart" people are liberals. They need that constant reassurance in a way the right never does -and you haven't a clue why that is, do you honey?

I'll tell you the same thing I've said before. If you think THIS is as good as it gets under any President -then by all means vote for Obama. But don't try to con people into believing the real unemployment rate of 15% (which even the CBO admitted was the real one) is Obama's strong suit here. I intend to vote for the guy with a proven track record of growing wealth and there is only going to be one candidate who has that come the general election. Obama only has a proven track record of growing poverty -the only economic class to grow were the ranks of the poor with the highest rate of poverty seen in more than 50 years while the ranks of the wealthy and middle class SHRUNK. That is what happens with class warfare. This is ALWAYS what happens with class warfare. But growing the ranks of the poor is exactly what Obama intended, increasing the number of people dependent on government handouts is exactly what Obama intended. It is why the Obama administration is running ads to encourage MORE people to get on food stamps! He wants more poor people who are more dependent on government. And it is what he got -he was wildly successful. And set back this country by decades. The fact you don't want to believe that was their goal all along doesn't change the fact Democrats believe THEY benefit politically when there are more POOR PEOPLE in this country and more people dependent on government handouts -and we also have the greatest percentage of people receiving some kind of government entitlement and payment in our HISTORY. Obama must be so proud. Democrats claim THEY are the ones who represent their interests -not Republicans. So of course they want more of them, not fewer! So if you vote for him again and end up among the poor -it is probably because you are just that smart, huh.

 

[Chris]

Even if he wants to argue that the deficit is 15.5T vs 16T is that really a record to be proud of?

The Obama budget deficits originated during the Bush presidency...

1. Tax cuts 2001-2002 (4 trillion over 10 years)
2. Prescription drug benefits (1 trillion over 10 years)
3. Economic meltdown of 2008 ( 3 trillion and rising)
4. Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (2 trillion and winding down)

 

[Chris]

Here are some real numbers for you.



$14.79 T + $1.2 T = $15.99 T. Almost $16 T by the end of the fiscal year 2012.


Now you can blame Bush.

1) You didn't provide a link.
2) I never said it would never hit $16T. Clearly it will. But that doesn't mean that it's $16T today, which is what was claimed.

Three things.....Obama is on office, the economy is in the shitter and you're paying $4.50 per gallon for regular ( don't bother denying the gas price because I looked)...
All this and you are HAPPY with Obama?
You must be living in a parallel universe.

Actually the economy has been in recovery since 2009....

 

[Dr Grump]

Here are some real numbers for you.



$14.79 T + $1.2 T = $15.99 T. Almost $16 T by the end of the fiscal year 2012.


Now you can blame Bush.

1) You didn't provide a link.
2) I never said it would never hit $16T. Clearly it will. But that doesn't mean that it's $16T today, which is what was claimed.

Three things.....Obama is on office, the economy is in the shitter and you're paying $4.50 per gallon for regular ( don't bother denying the gas price because I looked)...
All this and you are HAPPY with Obama?
You must be living in a parallel universe.

Yeah, because it's all Obama's fault....

I love it. When the shit hits the fan when Bush is prez, according to con whackjobs it's the fault of Congress (which just happens to be run by Dems)

When the shit hits the fan with Obama as prez, it's the prez's fault...

Talk about wanting you cake and eating it, too...

 

[The Rabbi]

1) You didn't provide a link.
2) I never said it would never hit $16T. Clearly it will. But that doesn't mean that it's $16T today, which is what was claimed.

Three things.....Obama is on office, the economy is in the shitter and you're paying $4.50 per gallon for regular ( don't bother denying the gas price because I looked)...
All this and you are HAPPY with Obama?
You must be living in a parallel universe.

Actually the economy has been in recovery since 2009....

So the recovery is due to Obama but anyhing bad is due to Bush?
Can you get more partisan than this? I don't think so.