"Socialism" Isn't the big bad boogie word Republicans want it to be any more

Now, ain’t that sumpin! For all of your links about Sweden’s rise and fall you have deliberately resisted informing our dear USMD members on the fact that the American CIA assassinated the Social-Democrat Prime Minister of Sweden, Olaf Palme, in 1986, and that the consequence of it ushered in the decline of Sweden’s Socialist part of the political equation and was/is instrumental in Sweden’s economical decline and its falling from the top INTERNATIONAL INDEX of DEMOCRACIES. Don’t try to slither out of it. Sweden’s problems today are directly linked to clandestine CIA manipulation of the Swedish political fibre. Sweden has broken its own laws time and time again in order to accommodate the US in its treacherous endeavours. Lack of criticism against the illegal invasion of Irak – allowing CIA aircraft to use Swedish airports to illegally fly Afghanis to Guantánamo to be tortured – Swedish silence over the US illegal invasion of Serbia – Sweden’s active and illegal judicial detainment of Julian Assange whose innocence was clear from day one – Sweden’s coerced application and admittance into NATO. Each and every one of those are direct and unmistakable US manipulation of Sweden’s political and judiciary sovereignty. Shame on you. 😠
For once I'd like to see some proof of your claims.
 
We don't need the government to research cancer. And we don't need government to explore space (see: Elon Musk).
Progress toward curing cancer would be much slower without government funding

Does that matter?

Ask me if or when I ever have cancer

Without the space race between the US and the USSR we would not have reached the moon by now and many common products would not exist
 
Progress toward curing cancer would be much slower without government funding
Maybe. Maybe not. If society wants to make it happen, we'll make it happen. No need for government control of the process.
 
Well from what i have seen the private sector isn't making a very good job of financing many of those things in the US, taxes pay for those important infrastructure projects in any civilized Country such as rail roads and health etc, for years my Country the UK since Thatcher has gone down the same road as the US with stealing state assets which ended up in the hands of Global Corporations, that has led to some of the highest energy bills anywhere, the French Government own a very large stake in my energy supplier Company, same with rail travel where prices rise every year since they were privatised but we still fund the network from our taxes which seem to go into shareholders pockets, the Government have just done one good thing they froze rail fares for the first time in about thirty years, you could call that Socialism, butit means people can afford to take the train to work, just about, as for China have you seen the infrastruture they have and are building it makes the US and some Countries look third World, and if unfettered wild Capitalism was such a success Countries like Bangladesh and Haiti would be the model, and Cuba have been under a economic sanctions for 60 years by the US because they wouldn't allow a fascist dictator and the Mafia rule the Country.
China is building Potemkin cities where the concrete the high rises are built from rots before the mortgages are paid off. China is a perfect example of crony capitalism at its worst amalgamated with state owned and directed businesses. Unneeded cities are being built, and unneeded high speed rail line are being built so that a few families associated with high-ranking party members' profit.
 
Well, that finally shut you up. :cool:
No it didn't. I made a typo but changed the "our" to "your".
Jesus, how immature and desperate are you anyway?

Here. I've posted your hero for you to adore.

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"Come, comrade! We have many people to murder to achieve our utopian vision!"
 
Socialism hasn't changed the definition one bit.
Capitalism ~ we vote on Government
Socialism ~ Gov. control of everything you do and say.

There is no such thing as Democratic Socialism.
Democratic ~ votes on Government
Socialism ~ complete governmental control of your life.

Don't be fooled by politicians. They all lie...
 
Socialism hasn't changed the definition one bit.
Capitalism ~ we vote on Government
Socialism ~ Gov. control of everything you do and say.

There is no such thing as Democratic Socialism.
Democratic ~ votes on Government
Socialism ~ complete governmental control of your life.

Don't be fooled by politicians. They all lie...
I recall reading the preamble at DSA a while back - they basically want all aspects of society subject to majority rule. Your employment, your housing, your kids education, health care - it all becomes a matter of politics rather than a matter of money. Socialists think that's a good trade. I do not.
 
You are part of the idiots the video is talking about.

Socialism works splendidly in many western countries like all the Scandinavian ones and many of the major European ones, like Holland, France and England. Add Canada to the list, and even here in America, moreso in the past, when "America was great" than it was after that far rightwing idiot Raygunn put his hands to the wheel.

This "Venezuela bad" bullshit you ignants keep spewing is now dead in the water.

Keep trying and you'll see.
50% of our population doesnt even pay taxes. Thats 150M people. Those countries couldnt even fit that many people in their countries.
 
You are part of the idiots the video is talking about.

Socialism works splendidly in many western countries like all the Scandinavian ones and many of the major European ones, like Holland, France and England. Add Canada to the list, and even here in America, moreso in the past, when "America was great" than it was after that far rightwing idiot Raygunn put his hands to the wheel.

This "Venezuela bad" bullshit you ignants keep spewing is now dead in the water.

Keep trying and you'll see.
Sorrow Komrade Parasite "MarcATL" but you are grossly in error.
Add the figures for "Public Debt to GDP Ratio" with the column beside - "External Debt to GDP Ratio" and the heavy debt all your "working socialisms" carry is only growing and will bankrupt them and much of the world along with them.
World Debt Clocks;

It's known as "living beyond your means" and/or "being a deadbeat non-producer mooching off of the few who do produce something" parasite.

It is you FAR Left Wingnuts and your "never earned an honest dime" excuses for POTUS's ever since Reagan who have run this country down and into Deficit and Debt; and would bankrupt into another depression if the Left ever gains the White House and Congress again!
 
I recall reading the preamble at DSA a while back - they basically want all aspects of society subject to majority rule. Your employment, your housing, your kids education, health care - it all becomes a matter of politics rather than a matter of money. Socialists think that's a good trade. I do not.
"Majority rule" = mob rule.
Which is why our Founding Fathers had the foresight to institute a democratic Republic where elected representatives make the decisions.
 
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Maybe. Maybe not. If society wants to make it happen, we'll make it happen. No need for government control of the process.
Sorry Komrade, but Nature and the Laws of Science puts limits on your pravda delusion: "If society wants to make it happen, we'll make it happen." Much of the Real World is beyond human desire to change reality.

You might consider living in the Real World.
 
Is that true?
Excerpts:
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In 2009, according to a memo from the Joint Committee on Taxation, a bi-partisan Congressional committee, only 49 percent of Americans owed money on their federal income tax returns [source: PolitiFact]. So yes, it's true that more than half of all Americans paid no federal income tax in the tax year 2009, and the number of people who did pay taxes was even lower -- 51 percent, not 53 percent. (For tax year 2018, the non-partisan Tax Policy Center estimated that 44 percent would pay no income tax, which means that 56 percent would be paying taxes.)
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That said, why don't 49 percent of Americans owe any federal income tax on April 15th? There are two main reasons: income level and tax benefits. The tax system in the United States is designed to be progressive, meaning that higher incomes are asked to pay a larger percentage in taxes. If your income level is relatively low, standard deductions and exemptions can quickly lower your tax burden to zero.
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AND

Summary of the Latest Federal Income Tax Data, 2025 Update​

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New Internal Revenue Service data for tax year 2022 shows the US federal income tax system continues to be progressive as high-income taxpayers pay the highest average income tax rates. Average tax rates for all income groups remained lower in 2022, five years after the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), than they were in 2017 prior to the reform.


  • In 2022, taxpayers filed 153.8 million tax returns, reported earning nearly $14.8 trillion in adjusted gross income(AGI), and paid $2.1 trillion in individual income taxes.
  • The average income tax rate in 2022 was 14.5 percent. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid a 23.1 percent average rate, six times higher than the 3.7 percent average rate paid by the bottom half of taxpayers.
  • The top 1 percent’s income share fell from 26.3 percent in 2021 to 22.4 percent in 2022, and its share of federal income taxes paid fell from 45.8 percent to 40.4 percent.
  • The top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97 percent of all federal individual income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining 3 percent.

 
China is building Potemkin cities where the concrete the high rises are built from rots before the mortgages are paid off. China is a perfect example of crony capitalism at its worst amalgamated with state owned and directed businesses. Unneeded cities are being built, and unneeded high speed rail line are being built so that a few families associated with high-ranking party members' profit.
Who told you that? from what i have seen the Chinese don't like corrupt officials they seem to end up on the wrong end of a firing squad.
 
You are part of the idiots the video is talking about.

Socialism works splendidly in many western countries like all the Scandinavian ones and many of the major European ones, like Holland, France and England. Add Canada to the list, and even here in America, moreso in the past, when "America was great" than it was after that far rightwing idiot Raygunn put his hands to the wheel.

This "Venezuela bad" bullshit you ignants keep spewing is now dead in the water.

Keep trying and you'll see.
While I answered this in another post moments ago, I'll do the math for you and other deluded Leftist who fail at arithmetic and economics, when not lying about such and society~government in general.

As the following totals of the two columns; Public and External Debt to GDP ratios will show, your example of "Socialism works splendidly" only applies so long as you can rack up Debt on the Nation's 'Credit Card'; passing the bill to be paid unto the future generations; our children, grandchildren, etc.

From: https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

USA -------- 184.78 %
Germany ----- 236.63 %
Japan -------- 412.57 %
U.K. --------- 424.67 %
France -------- 399.47 %
Italy ---------- 295.2 %
Canada -------- 279.72 %
Belgium -------- 387.64 %
Greece -------- 466.88 %
Ireland -------- 104.18 %
Netherlands ---- 54.77 %
Norway ------- 94.39 %
Portugal ------- 295.92 %
Spain --------- 302.93 %
Sweden ------- 233.3 %
Switzerland ---- 309.46 %
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There are several other nations on this list (mostly the Class B & C) which run about 100% +/- and many a bit under that.
Point is that the numbers show there is "no free lunch" and that "Western 'Socialism' " comes with a debt price tag, which means it can't support itself !

All the Lefty wingnut "socialism is the solution" wannabes need to get jobs that will create wealth if they want to be any other than parasitic refuse upon society.
 
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