Social Security is ours not Congress

[nat4900]

However, in the 1960 case of Fleming v. Nestor, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that workers have no legally binding contractual rights to their Social Security benefits, and that those benefits can be cut or even eliminated at any time."

NO!!!!! What Nestor asserted is that "....the right to alter, amend, or repeal any provision of this [SS] Act is hereby reserved to the Congress..."

Now. if Congress wishes to negate the FICA payments made by an individual, THEN Congress will pay the political price for such a decision.

In other words, Nestor states that Congress may have the right to negate SS payments, BUT that particular Congress would pay the price....and that is why most congresses have avoided the issue lest those in that Congress will be out of a job (at best) and lynched (at worst.)

 

[JakeStarkey]

SS is the third rail of politics.

Far too many of the alt right and far right as well depend on SS.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Seniors apparently hate their social security because they overwhelmingly vote republican

Is that what Ronald Reagan did?

 

[nat4900]

SS is the third rail of politics.

True.....even the most senile of right wing Trumpster will revolt if Ryan and company decide to gamble the fund with WS hucksters. Were this to actually happen and the bond market were to fail or take a substantial dip.......when SS payments are not made after a couple of months, the pitchforks would be all over D.C.

 

[JakeStarkey]

purpleowl and ty: seniors vote overwhelmingly is the point.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Sure, right wing morons, lets give social security funds to Wall Street gamblers and see what could possibly go wrong.

Picture yourself as a 90 year old in a nursing home getting a letter from some WS bank stating, "sorry, we gambled and lost your money......have a nice time out on the street."

Here is one looming fact that all of us I think can agree on. No one on this forum is knowledgeable enough to debate this on the merits one way or the other.

And we can all agree that Missourian has no idea of what is being discussed.

One, SS is not an entitlement.

Two, it is an old age insurance program into which we all pay.

Three, it is our money.

Actually it's God's money. You're just the steward.

 

[Grizz]

If the Republicans fuck with Social Security they'll find out what Hillary Clinton found out when she pissed off labor.

Why don't you children show where a Republican Congress took this money out of that vaunted "lock box"?

 

[tyroneweaver]

purpleowl and ty: seniors vote overwhelmingly is the point.

Whatever you say...Isaiah.

 

[Rocko]

Put the money back, Congress.

What's your point?

 

[NYcarbineer]

If the Republicans fuck with Social Security they'll find out what Hillary Clinton found out when she pissed off labor.

Why don't you children show where a Republican Congress took this money out of that vaunted "lock box"?

Why don't you learn to post like an adult?

The Republicans want to let Wall Street get its hands on the Trust Fund. Sane people who are informed on the subject should know better.

 

[Grizz]

If the Republicans fuck with Social Security they'll find out what Hillary Clinton found out when she pissed off labor.

Why don't you children show where a Republican Congress took this money out of that vaunted "lock box"?

Why don't you learn to post like an adult?

The Republicans want to let Wall Street get its hands on the Trust Fund. Sane people who are informed on the subject should know better.

Prove it punk.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Seems to me Nitwit49.00 that before the elections you were hailing the stock market was going great while Obama was in office. Now you are saying that it isn't? Why the sudden change Nitwit?

Hey, moron.....I didn't say that I wanted Wall Street to fail......Let them gamble with those who are WILLING to gamble with the WS Casino........

Social Security is something that most of us have invested for 50 years of our lives and we do NOT want to use that money to gamble with......GWB tried to fuck us over....it didn't work then and if right wingers try it now, you'll see a real revolution.

Oh gnatgirl, the govt gambled it all into the general fund years ago.

 

[Grizz]

Why don't Jake and Carb enlighten us what the "lock box" actually is.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If the Republicans fuck with Social Security they'll find out what Hillary Clinton found out when she pissed off labor.

Why don't you children show where a Republican Congress took this money out of that vaunted "lock box"?

Why don't you learn to post like an adult?

The Republicans want to let Wall Street get its hands on the Trust Fund. Sane people who are informed on the subject should know better.

Prove it punk.

What do those skirts you're hiding behind smell like?

 

[Grizz]

If the Republicans fuck with Social Security they'll find out what Hillary Clinton found out when she pissed off labor.

Why don't you children show where a Republican Congress took this money out of that vaunted "lock box"?

Why don't you learn to post like an adult?

The Republicans want to let Wall Street get its hands on the Trust Fund. Sane people who are informed on the subject should know better.

Prove it punk.

What do those skirts you're hiding behind smell like?

Why don't you show us what the "lock box" actually is boy?
You know I'm in Omaha, say when you'll be here.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We can only hope that the Trump puppet falls in line with the Wall Street puppets like Paul Ryan and together they try to destroy Social Security and/or Medicare.

Trump, in that case, guaranteed one termer.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If the Republicans fuck with Social Security they'll find out what Hillary Clinton found out when she pissed off labor.

Why don't you children show where a Republican Congress took this money out of that vaunted "lock box"?

Why don't you learn to post like an adult?

The Republicans want to let Wall Street get its hands on the Trust Fund. Sane people who are informed on the subject should know better.

Prove it punk.

What do those skirts you're hiding behind smell like?

Why don't you show us what the "lock box" actually is boy?
You know I'm in Omaha, say when you'll be here.

lol, then you're one of the few Nebraska jokes I hadn't heard.

What did I say about the lock box? Refresh my memory. With specifics.

 

[Grizz]

Why don't you children show where a Republican Congress took this money out of that vaunted "lock box"?

Why don't you learn to post like an adult?

The Republicans want to let Wall Street get its hands on the Trust Fund. Sane people who are informed on the subject should know better.

Prove it punk.

What do those skirts you're hiding behind smell like?

Why don't you show us what the "lock box" actually is boy?
You know I'm in Omaha, say when you'll be here.

lol, then you're one of the few Nebraska jokes I hadn't heard.

What did I say about the lock box? Refresh my memory. With specifics.

(smile) Child, prove that the Pubs want to do something with the SS Funds....oh wait....I've already posted where the money oes AND what Slick Willy wanted to do with them

 

[gipper]

If the Republicans fuck with Social Security they'll find out what Hillary Clinton found out when she pissed off labor.

Why don't you children show where a Republican Congress took this money out of that vaunted "lock box"?

Why don't you learn to post like an adult?

The Republicans want to let Wall Street get its hands on the Trust Fund. Sane people who are informed on the subject should know better.

Big Ears cut Social Security and you libs were fine with it.

 

[SwimExpert]

Put the money back, Congress.

Social Security is not insurance. It's a tax and spend entitlement program. Period.