Zone1 Social security a socialist program supported by the Trump administration ?

[task0778]

So what about the billions that were being stolen or given to illegals without we (the working people's permission) ????

Nothing wrong with eliminating fraud, waste, and abuse as much as possible. Wasn't that what Elon Musk was doing?

 

[beagle9]

Nothing wrong with eliminating fraud, waste, and abuse as much as possible. Wasn't that what Elon Musk was doing?

The SSI program is undergoing major issues, and if it's receiving that kind of money back into the system after finding it, uhhhh then should it not allow for our country to give generously to our seniors who have earned their way through their lifetimes of hardships, and through their years of job related physical defects caused by 40+ year's of nose to the grind stone efforts, otherwise that had been earned by the employee in which benefitted the Country in many ways ?????

 

[task0778]

then should it not allow for our country to give generously to our seniors who have earned their way through their lifetimes of hardships

I thought it already was doing that, perhaps I misunderstood what you're saying. I though Musk's DOGE policy was just trying to trim the numbers of people who are erroneously receiving unearned benefits. Nobody on either side is proposing less benefits to those who have or will have earned it.

 

[beagle9]

I thought it already was doing that, perhaps I misunderstood what you're saying. I though Musk's DOGE policy was just trying to trim the numbers of people who are erroneously receiving unearned benefits. Nobody on either side is proposing less benefits to those who have or will have earned it.

The threats for political purposes need to stop on both sides, otherwise it's time to leave Social security alone, and yes stop the fraud and waste for sure, but it's time to make the program the best program ever for retired citizen's after they have served their nation well.

 

[task0778]

The threats for political purposes need to stop on both sides, otherwise it's time to leave Social security alone, and yes stop the fraud and waste for sure, but it's time to make the program the best program ever for retired citizen's after they have served their nation well.

Who has issued any threats to SSI to reduce benefits? I must've missed that.


"it's time to leave Social security alone" I don't think so, everything about the SSI Trust Fund suggests it will run out of enough money to continue to pay existing benefit amounts. So IMHO something must be done to fix that.

 

[DGS49]

Every American should know that SS funds are kept separate from other Government revenues, through a fictitious "trust fund." Congress had/has no power to create a compulsory retirement system, so they avoided the Constitutional problem by funding it through a separate "payroll tax," the FICA tax. Technically, Congress may not spend SS funds on anything other than SS, but they have "borrowed" from the excess, which made financial sense. THey are now "repaying" those loans, and the projections for the depletion of the trust fund presume all will be timely repaid.

Should Congress fail to act - which will NOT happen - then SS would revert to a pay-as-you-go proposition, and benefits would be reduced by about 20%. But tax dollars will not go to fund SS; Congress cannot do that.

For those with an interest in recent history, when the Boomers were in their peak earning years, the SS fund was having huge surpluses, and Congress - being the whores that they are - significantly increased benefits and added a disability pension program, funded by the FICA tax, which was and remains bullshit on steroids.

DOGE was working in all of our best interests in trying to purge both traditional SS and SSI rolls of people who have no legal right to be collecting benefits. Further, they saw that the Social Security Administration was both inefficient and overloaded with staff, and they have tried to address these problems, with NOBODY's benefits being threatened by any of it.

The political Left, which caters to the low-IQ component of the voting population keeps telling "us" that DOGE and the Republicans are threatening your retirement benefits. They are lying their asses off, as usual.

Don't worry; be happy.

 

[beagle9]

Who has issued any threats to SSI to reduce benefits? I must've missed that.


"it's time to leave Social security alone" I don't think so, everything about the SSI Trust Fund suggests it will run out of enough money to continue to pay existing benefit amounts. So IMHO something must be done to fix that.

Threats saying the program is going to be broke yada-yada-yada-yada-yada-yada...

Either we are a super power with the knowledge and know-how to fix thing's that are broken or we are a fraud when it comes to our boasting and bull chit lies being told daily to our retirement community, and otherwise stiffing those who worked over 40+year's or more serving, building, and keeping this country moving during those time periods.

Yes let's fix it, but I found it funny how you took my leave it alone comment as if I were suggesting not to fix it.... lol

Quite the opposite, otherwise let's just keep the wrong people's hands off of it..