soccer OT

[harmonica]

Shaughnessy’s complaint that soccer seems like “90 minutes of turnovers” (which, if you read The Numbers Game, is true; the average match has multiple changes of possession every minute) has a different ring to it when you consider how breathtakingly exciting that feeling can be in a 0-0 game.

Less Scoring Ain’t Boring

 

[harmonica]

..so AUS vs NOR they played an hour and a half with only 2 goals-- game tied
now they are playing 30 more minutes game still tied
!!!!!
this is STUPID
why don't they play ANOTHER 90 minutes??!!
they should do like NHL and take 2 or 3 players off each team for OT

The NHL only started doing 3 v 3 OT a few years ago. Before that it was 4 v 4 for a while, and before that they had ties, like soccer. More importantly, the NHL does not do 3 v 3 in the playoffs. In the playoffs of the NHL, if they get to overtime, the teams simply keep playing 20 minute periods until someone scores. What is currently going on in the Women's World Cup could be considered playoffs. The win by Norway knocked Australia out of the tournament.

Norway won in a shootout, by the way. That's something the NHL does as well, at least during the regular season. I'm not a fan of it for either sport.

NHL does not do PSs for playoffs, correct?

They don't do a shootout in the playoffs. Penalty shots are different; a penalty shot is when a player is going to have a breakaway and an opposing team's player does something illegal to prevent it, like tripping him with his stick. In that case, the player that should have had a breakaway chance gets to do a 1 v 1 with the goalie. That can happen in the playoffs as well as the regular season, but it's not very common.

Penalty shots in soccer both work somewhat differently and happen more often (too often in my opinion). In hockey, the player shooting takes the puck from the center line dot and skates in at the goalie to attempt to score. In soccer, the ball is placed on a dot between the two goal boxes and the player runs up and kicks it at the goal. In soccer, any time the defending team commits a foul within the goal box, it is a penalty kick for the other team. At least, that's my understanding; I'm still pretty new to soccer, but the couple I currently live with a big fans and have been explaining things to me.

Oh, and a bit of trivia: from what I can tell, Major League Soccer used to have penalty shots very similar to the NHL, where the player ran the ball in from 35 yards away. That ended around the turn of the millennium, apparently.

...the 35 yard run PKs would be more exciting/strategic/need of thought

 

[harmonica]

If they can’t score in the first 90 minutes
Why continue the same thing?

I say, remove two players from the field every five minutes

You’d actually ensure less scoring since lateral ball movement is what causes openings that talented players exploit

-------hahahhahah--that's just it ---they kick the ball around laterally so much, there is not much scoring!!!!--read = not much scoring
it gives the defenders time to get back, also

Dropped on your head as a kid were ya?

another mature post by you---at least I grew up --unlike you

Being a fat slob is not growing up, it's growing out.

You beer drinking softball fags always make me chuckle as I do my roadwork around the park.

your roadwork must be walking your little ratdog
is this your wittle puppy that you wove to walk with??

 

[Unkotare]

You’d actually ensure less scoring since lateral ball movement is what causes openings that talented players exploit

-------hahahhahah--that's just it ---they kick the ball around laterally so much, there is not much scoring!!!!--read = not much scoring
it gives the defenders time to get back, also

Dropped on your head as a kid were ya?

another mature post by you---at least I grew up --unlike you

Being a fat slob is not growing up, it's growing out.

You beer drinking softball fags always make me chuckle as I do my roadwork around the park.

your roadwork must be walking your little ratdog
is this your wittle puppy that you wove to walk with??
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Lamest attempt at a comeback of all time.

 

[harmonica]

If they can’t score in the first 90 minutes
Why continue the same thing?

I say, remove two players from the field every five minutes

You’d actually ensure less scoring since lateral ball movement is what causes openings that talented players exploit

-------hahahhahah--that's just it ---they kick the ball around laterally so much, there is not much scoring!!!!--read = not much scoring
it gives the defenders time to get back, also

Dropped on your head as a kid were ya?

another mature post by you---at least I grew up --unlike you

Being a fat slob is not growing up, it's growing out.

You beer drinking softball fags always make me chuckle as I do my roadwork around the park.

.....one of the first things you learn on the internet is that when someone makes fun of others and make themselves out to be ''manly'', that is usually not the case ..they are usually the ''girly'' men

 

[harmonica]

..so AUS vs NOR they played an hour and a half with only 2 goals-- game tied
now they are playing 30 more minutes game still tied
!!!!!
this is STUPID
why don't they play ANOTHER 90 minutes??!!
they should do like NHL and take 2 or 3 players off each team for OT

I believe it would have something to do with endurance. In high level soccer, you’re allowed 3 substitutes; that’s it. Usually, one is reserved by smart coaches for injuries because if you’ve subbed 3 times and then you have an injury…you play with 10 players.

Usually (not sure about WWC) there are two 30 minute periods followed by PK’s if memory serves.

The idea of taking 2 or 3 players off is, well, dumb.

think before you babble--soccer is not a high scoring sport
2 hours and just 2 goals in this last game when the teams are fairly matched
let's play ANOTHER 90 minutes !!!

LISTEN YOU DUNCE!!!!!
The reason the time allotted for a particular sport is set is b/c pushing players to play prolonged games is likely to cause serious career ending physical injuries.
Who in their right mind would tell an athlete to play until they drop from exhaustion?
THINK before you run your mouth!

hahahh--you dumbass!! that's MY POINT also!!!!!!!!!!! you fkd up
that's what I'm saying!! why go ANOTHER 30 minutes with NO scoring !!!???
hahahahahahhaha
they keep playing and playing with no score/tied score

 

[harmonica]

If they can’t score in the first 90 minutes
Why continue the same thing?

I say, remove two players from the field every five minutes

You’d actually ensure less scoring since lateral ball movement is what causes openings that talented players exploit

-------hahahhahah--that's just it ---they kick the ball around laterally so much, there is not much scoring!!!!--read = not much scoring
it gives the defenders time to get back, also

Dropped on your head as a kid were ya?

another mature post by you---at least I grew up --unlike you

Being a fat slob is not growing up, it's growing out.

You beer drinking softball fags always make me chuckle as I do my roadwork around the park.

''road work''????!!! hahhahahah CIVILIAN puss crap---and you can't take it back
I was in the Marines-----you have no idea what a real work out is

 

[candycorn]

The truly hilarious thing about this entire argument is that there is almost as much goal scoring in Soccer as there is American Football—if you eliminate the field goal and the extra point which are fine for American Football (which I used to eat, sleep and breathe—not so much now that we can’t decide what a catch is).

The difference is that the Americans award 6 points for getting the ball passed a line and Soccer does the logical thing…awards one point for crossing the line. Soccer doesn’t forgive half successes by allowing someone to kick the ball from near mid field and score points that way. Its not cheating that American Football does this—that is the rules of the game. It does, however, cheapen the touchdowns by having 2 field goals equal a touch down. You can win a game without never getting the ball passed the goal line.

 

[noonereal]

You’d actually ensure less scoring since lateral ball movement is what causes openings that talented players exploit

-------hahahhahah--that's just it ---they kick the ball around laterally so much, there is not much scoring!!!!--read = not much scoring
it gives the defenders time to get back, also

Dropped on your head as a kid were ya?

another mature post by you---at least I grew up --unlike you

Being a fat slob is not growing up, it's growing out.

You beer drinking softball fags always make me chuckle as I do my roadwork around the park.

''road work''????!!! hahhahahah CIVILIAN puss crap---and you can't take it back
I was in the Marines-----you have no idea what a real work out is

Key word, were.

Now you are a fat queer leering at....

Got swat a softball, gumball. LOL, what a loser.

 

[noonereal]

The truly hilarious thing about this entire argument is that there is almost as much goal scoring in Soccer as there is American Football—if you eliminate the field goal and the extra point which are fine for American Football (which I used to eat, sleep and breathe—not so much now that we can’t decide what a catch is).

The difference is that the Americans award 6 points for getting the ball passed a line and Soccer does the logical thing…awards one point for crossing the line. Soccer doesn’t forgive half successes by allowing someone to kick the ball from near mid field and score points that way. Its not cheating that American Football does this—that is the rules of the game. It does, however, cheapen the touchdowns by having 2 field goals equal a touch down. You can win a game without never getting the ball passed the goal line.

Plus football is so 20th century and soccer is cutting edge.

 

[noonereal]

You’d actually ensure less scoring since lateral ball movement is what causes openings that talented players exploit

-------hahahhahah--that's just it ---they kick the ball around laterally so much, there is not much scoring!!!!--read = not much scoring
it gives the defenders time to get back, also

Dropped on your head as a kid were ya?

another mature post by you---at least I grew up --unlike you

Being a fat slob is not growing up, it's growing out.

You beer drinking softball fags always make me chuckle as I do my roadwork around the park.

.....one of the first things you learn on the internet is that when someone makes fun of others and make themselves out to be ''manly'', that is usually not the case ..they are usually the ''girly'' men

Dude, we all know your "problem."

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

LOL, fluff boy.

 

[Unkotare]

....

Plus football is so 20th century and soccer is cutting edge.

Say what?

 

[Montrovant]

The truly hilarious thing about this entire argument is that there is almost as much goal scoring in Soccer as there is American Football—if you eliminate the field goal and the extra point which are fine for American Football (which I used to eat, sleep and breathe—not so much now that we can’t decide what a catch is).

The difference is that the Americans award 6 points for getting the ball passed a line and Soccer does the logical thing…awards one point for crossing the line. Soccer doesn’t forgive half successes by allowing someone to kick the ball from near mid field and score points that way. Its not cheating that American Football does this—that is the rules of the game. It does, however, cheapen the touchdowns by having 2 field goals equal a touch down. You can win a game without never getting the ball passed the goal line.

Scoring a goal is very different from scoring a touchdown. It's not really a good direct comparison. Soccer, hockey, even basketball can be much better compared. Football is played so much differently than those sports that direct comparisons often fail.

 

[harmonica]

The truly hilarious thing about this entire argument is that there is almost as much goal scoring in Soccer as there is American Football—if you eliminate the field goal and the extra point which are fine for American Football (which I used to eat, sleep and breathe—not so much now that we can’t decide what a catch is).

The difference is that the Americans award 6 points for getting the ball passed a line and Soccer does the logical thing…awards one point for crossing the line. Soccer doesn’t forgive half successes by allowing someone to kick the ball from near mid field and score points that way. Its not cheating that American Football does this—that is the rules of the game. It does, however, cheapen the touchdowns by having 2 field goals equal a touch down. You can win a game without never getting the ball passed the goal line.

The truly hilarious thing about your entire argument is American football is 30 minutes SHORTER than soccer-----hahahahhahahahahah
and it's not continuous play--so there is MORE scoring per time period
NO--you are WRONG--there is not as much scoring in soccer

 

[harmonica]

France vs Brazil--50 minutes--no goals--not many, if any, shots on goal
like the article said--mostly a game of turnovers

 

[candycorn]

The truly hilarious thing about this entire argument is that there is almost as much goal scoring in Soccer as there is American Football—if you eliminate the field goal and the extra point which are fine for American Football (which I used to eat, sleep and breathe—not so much now that we can’t decide what a catch is).

The difference is that the Americans award 6 points for getting the ball passed a line and Soccer does the logical thing…awards one point for crossing the line. Soccer doesn’t forgive half successes by allowing someone to kick the ball from near mid field and score points that way. Its not cheating that American Football does this—that is the rules of the game. It does, however, cheapen the touchdowns by having 2 field goals equal a touch down. You can win a game without never getting the ball passed the goal line.

Scoring a goal is very different from scoring a touchdown. It's not really a good direct comparison. Soccer, hockey, even basketball can be much better compared. Football is played so much differently than those sports that direct comparisons often fail.

The comparison is how the NFL awards 6 points for moving the ball across a line. Soccer awards one goal for the same act.

 

[harmonica]

The truly hilarious thing about this entire argument is that there is almost as much goal scoring in Soccer as there is American Football—if you eliminate the field goal and the extra point which are fine for American Football (which I used to eat, sleep and breathe—not so much now that we can’t decide what a catch is).

The difference is that the Americans award 6 points for getting the ball passed a line and Soccer does the logical thing…awards one point for crossing the line. Soccer doesn’t forgive half successes by allowing someone to kick the ball from near mid field and score points that way. Its not cheating that American Football does this—that is the rules of the game. It does, however, cheapen the touchdowns by having 2 field goals equal a touch down. You can win a game without never getting the ball passed the goal line.

Scoring a goal is very different from scoring a touchdown. It's not really a good direct comparison. Soccer, hockey, even basketball can be much better compared. Football is played so much differently than those sports that direct comparisons often fail.

The comparison is how the NFL awards 6 points for moving the ball across a line. Soccer awards one goal for the same act.

you are wrong anyway as the math shows
but a lot of you people do not accept scientific/mathematical facts

 

[harmonica]

The truly hilarious thing about this entire argument is that there is almost as much goal scoring in Soccer as there is American Football—if you eliminate the field goal and the extra point which are fine for American Football (which I used to eat, sleep and breathe—not so much now that we can’t decide what a catch is).

The difference is that the Americans award 6 points for getting the ball passed a line and Soccer does the logical thing…awards one point for crossing the line. Soccer doesn’t forgive half successes by allowing someone to kick the ball from near mid field and score points that way. Its not cheating that American Football does this—that is the rules of the game. It does, however, cheapen the touchdowns by having 2 field goals equal a touch down. You can win a game without never getting the ball passed the goal line.

Scoring a goal is very different from scoring a touchdown. It's not really a good direct comparison. Soccer, hockey, even basketball can be much better compared. Football is played so much differently than those sports that direct comparisons often fail.

The comparison is how the NFL awards 6 points for moving the ball across a line. Soccer awards one goal for the same act.

An average professional football game lasts 3 hours and 12 minutes, but if you tally up the time when the ball is actually in play, the action amounts to a mere 11 minutes. Part of the discrepancy has to do with the basic rules of American football

11 minutes vs 90 minutes
An average NFL game: more than 100 commercials and just 11 minutes of play

 

[candycorn]

The truly hilarious thing about this entire argument is that there is almost as much goal scoring in Soccer as there is American Football—if you eliminate the field goal and the extra point which are fine for American Football (which I used to eat, sleep and breathe—not so much now that we can’t decide what a catch is).

The difference is that the Americans award 6 points for getting the ball passed a line and Soccer does the logical thing…awards one point for crossing the line. Soccer doesn’t forgive half successes by allowing someone to kick the ball from near mid field and score points that way. Its not cheating that American Football does this—that is the rules of the game. It does, however, cheapen the touchdowns by having 2 field goals equal a touch down. You can win a game without never getting the ball passed the goal line.

Scoring a goal is very different from scoring a touchdown. It's not really a good direct comparison. Soccer, hockey, even basketball can be much better compared. Football is played so much differently than those sports that direct comparisons often fail.

The comparison is how the NFL awards 6 points for moving the ball across a line. Soccer awards one goal for the same act.

An average professional football game lasts 3 hours and 12 minutes, but if you tally up the time when the ball is actually in play, the action amounts to a mere 11 minutes. Part of the discrepancy has to do with the basic rules of American football

11 minutes vs 90 minutes
An average NFL game: more than 100 commercials and just 11 minutes of play

And 2/3 of the players are not on the field for those 11 minutes. Just Another reason Soccer is so much better than American Football.

American Football is fine for what it is.

 

[harmonica]

The truly hilarious thing about this entire argument is that there is almost as much goal scoring in Soccer as there is American Football—if you eliminate the field goal and the extra point which are fine for American Football (which I used to eat, sleep and breathe—not so much now that we can’t decide what a catch is).

The difference is that the Americans award 6 points for getting the ball passed a line and Soccer does the logical thing…awards one point for crossing the line. Soccer doesn’t forgive half successes by allowing someone to kick the ball from near mid field and score points that way. Its not cheating that American Football does this—that is the rules of the game. It does, however, cheapen the touchdowns by having 2 field goals equal a touch down. You can win a game without never getting the ball passed the goal line.

Scoring a goal is very different from scoring a touchdown. It's not really a good direct comparison. Soccer, hockey, even basketball can be much better compared. Football is played so much differently than those sports that direct comparisons often fail.

The comparison is how the NFL awards 6 points for moving the ball across a line. Soccer awards one goal for the same act.

An average professional football game lasts 3 hours and 12 minutes, but if you tally up the time when the ball is actually in play, the action amounts to a mere 11 minutes. Part of the discrepancy has to do with the basic rules of American football

11 minutes vs 90 minutes
An average NFL game: more than 100 commercials and just 11 minutes of play

And 2/3 of the players are not on the field for those 11 minutes. Just Another reason Soccer is so much better than American Football.

American Football is fine for what it is.

you're wrong though--soccer has much less scoring
that is only your opinion