So very sorry Republicans Putin gambled and lost

[justoffal]

Wrong. Putin is a right-wing authoritarian admired by Trump and Trumpers who are now rushing away from him with their tails between their legs. All faux conservatives have now are lies and gaslighting.

Complete bullshit.... Putin supports 90 to 100% the very same authority structure that the American left supports. That includes no private arms for citizens, no freedom of choice for religion, no freedom of speech for private citizens..... Just to name a few major identifying marks. On the other hand he does condemn homosexuality and all of its forms.There are no perfect parallels but there's no question that his doctrinal construct most closely resembles the American left. There is not a conservative bone in his body when it comes to personal rights of individuals. You couldn't be more full of shit than you are but maybe I'm wrong about that maybe there's a little bit of room for a few extra ounces of shit... But I doubt it.

 

[Leo123]

Clinton got Ukraine to get rid of their nukes with the promise that we would support them. What happened to that? Can someone please print that on Biden's teleprompter?

 

[Leo123]

Face facts, the Ukraine is greedy and should have given up the Ukraine and Donetsk decades ago, when the people there demanded it.
The people living there are the ones who get to decide, not Kyiv.

Reporters are giving reports and videos showing the defiance of all Ukraine to this Russian incursion. Why should Ukraine give up their independence? Because Putin doesn't like them doing that?

 

[Smokin' OP]

Which American conservatives are defending Putin?

There aren't any.
Plenty of people claiming they're conservative.
Looks good on a bumper sticker, that's about it.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Clinton got Ukraine to get rid of their nukes with the promise that we would support them. What happened to that? Can someone please print that on Biden's teleprompter?

WTF?
So, at the time Ukraine was run by Russia's puppet, President Leonid Kravchuk.
Kravchuk joined the Communist Party of Ukraine in 1958 and rose through the ranks of the party and of its agitprop department. He became a member of the Ukrainian Communist Party Bureau in 1989, and on 23 July 1990, became Chairman of the Supreme Soviet of the Ukrainian SSR, becoming the republic's nominal head of state. On October 24, 1990, the monopoly of the Communist Party of Ukraine on power was abolished, and thus, Kravchuk became not only the nominal, but also the actual head of the republic.

Ukraine, politically and economically unstable since it became an independent state after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, has 176 intercontinental missiles armed with some 1,240 nuclear warheads--all aimed at the United States. It also has 592 nuclear warheads aboard bombers, which would be covered by the agreement.

 

[Dragonlady]

In reality, the Trumptards and Magatards are frustrated leftists, who have been psychologically damaged by the Trump candidacy and their own party's propaganda.

No they are not. The Trump Cult is the results of 30 years of Republicans lying to the American people about Democrats, and minorities.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

the French and British who invaded Germany first.

Germany invaded France.

 

[daveman]

The truth hurts. Which explains why you have a hard time acknowledging reality.

Your reality is dictated to you, and you swallow it on command.

 

[bripat9643]

I agree with you about Putin. There were plenty of Trumpers on this board who had kind words for Putin. However, I do give credit to those who came around to condeming Putin. The problem I have is when these same folks try to gaslight about their past positions.

Really? Please quote someone having kind words for Putin.

 

[bripat9643]

Plenty.

Quote someone, asshole.

 

[JusticeHammer]

Except we did not solve anything because we joined WWI on the side of the criminals.
And that caused WWII.
At least we ended that more fairly, but WWI and WWII were total because of the US screwing up.
We did not solve anything.

Idiot^^^^

 

[jbrownson0831]

Ukraine War: Vladimir Putin has gambled everything and lost

Ukraine War: Vladimir Putin has gambled everything and lost​

Until Vladimir Putin lunched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in the early hours of February 24, he was winning his standoff with the West. He had compelled the United States and Europe to take his demands seriously; he experienced the pleasure of being treated as the leader of a great power; and he had succeeded in intimidating the Ukrainians as well as Russia’s other neighboring states and the wider world.

All he had to do to solidify his victory was to recognize the independence of the so-called separatist republics in the Donbas, acknowledge that Ukraine’s chances of joining NATO were nil, and continue his creeping subversion of Ukraine in the expectation that, sooner or later, it would drift back into Russia’s orbit.

And then he blew it all by invading Ukraine.

Overnight, Russia became a pariah state. The West has already imposed an expanding range of sanctions with more expected. International opinion has almost unanimously condemned Putin’s war of aggression, and thousands of his own citizens have expressed their opposition to the war in demonstrations and petitions.

Most importantly, Ukrainians have fought back, fiercely. This was something Putin probably did not expect. In his initial announcement of a “special military operation,” Putin called on Ukrainian soldiers to lay down their arms, not out of concern for their lives, but because he truly believed they would be happy to do so. But they weren’t and they didn’t. Instead, they have inflicted punishing losses on his invasion force and have inspired the watching world with their courage.

Now the supposed chess grandmaster Putin has effectively maneuvered himself into an unwinnable position. Ukrainians throughout the entire country, regardless of the language they prefer to speak, their religion or ethnic background, have rallied around the flag. Tens of thousands have volunteered for territorial defense units. Many more have donated blood. Untold others have handed over their savings to help finance the defense of the country. An historic wave of patriotic fervor has gripped Ukraine.

The Ukrainian nation has been joined by diaspora Ukrainians, who are now busy staging rallies and fundraising for their homeland. All these Ukrainians now consider themselves part of a modern Ukrainian nation that is as diverse as it is united in its opposition to Putin and everything he stands for: namely dictatorship and vassalage. Ukrainians have demonstrated that they love their country, despite all its extant faults, and that they are willing to sacrifice greatly for it.

Ukraine’s dramatic show of wartime unity and national strength is exceptionally inconvenient for Putin. In his increasingly unhinged attempts to justify his war, the Russian ruler has claimed to be fighting against a ragtag band of “fascists,” “Nazis,” and “drug addicts” who represent no one but their own interests and their “paymasters” in the West. As it turns out, Putin has declared war on a patriotic nation of more than 40 million people in a country the size of France.

His options are now all bad. He could still physically destroy Ukraine and commit a massive genocide against its inhabitants, but even the craziest of Russian imperialists would probably balk at the idea of what would be the most colossal atrocity in human history.

Putin may yet try to establish a puppet Ukrainian regime in Kyiv that would be happy to do his bidding, as intelligence reports have long predicted. However, that would mean occupying a huge country indefinitely. This would probably require around a million soldiers, all of whom would become targets of a Ukrainian resistance movement that would be sure to emerge.

Alternatively, Putin could try to work out some kind of deal with the current Ukrainian administration, but that would mean effectively admitting to his inner circle if not to the Russian people that his bloody enterprise had actually achieved nothing that negotiations could not have produced at far smaller cost.

Geez eddie, get a room......Putin, Putin, Putin...

 

[JusticeHammer]

Face facts, the Ukraine is greedy and should have given up the Ukraine and Donetsk decades ago, when the people there demanded it.
The people living there are the ones who get to decide, not Kyiv.

You are such an hypocritical idiot.

 

[bripat9643]

This is as ignorant as it is wrong.

Putin’s contempt for democracy, advocacy for authoritarianism, and propensity for war renders him typical of the neo-fascist right.

if you want an example of that, just consider the PM of Canada.

You progs are fucking hilarious when you try to pretend you aren't a bunch of fucking NAZIs

 

[JusticeHammer]

I am an extreme leftist, which means I do NOT support Joe or Hillary, but do support the squad.
And I also do not at all like the Ukraine, since they would not free the people of Donetsk and Crimea.

You admit being stupid? Wow. Supporting the squad is as stupid as you can get.

 

[bripat9643]

‘Ukraine’s dramatic show of wartime unity and national strength is exceptionally inconvenient for Putin. In his increasingly unhinged attempts to justify his war, the Russian ruler has claimed to be fighting against a ragtag band of “fascists,” “Nazis,” and “drug addicts” who represent no one but their own interests and their “paymasters” in the West. As it turns out, Putin has declared war on a patriotic nation of more than 40 million people in a country the size of France.’ ibid

American conservatives are just as unhinged as Putin in their defense of the Russian tyrant and warmonger.

These are the same people that turds like you were smearing when Trump was trying to get help from them to catch a corrupt American politician.,

 

[JusticeHammer]

No they are not. The Trump Cult is the results of 30 years of Republicans lying to the American people about Democrats, and minorities.

It's demscum who are the liars.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Putin is not a leftist. He's a Nazis-type NATIONALIST, like those that support Trump.

That makes no sense. He said he was "denazifying" ukraine.

 

[bendog]

Ukraine War: Vladimir Putin has gambled everything and lost

Ukraine War: Vladimir Putin has gambled everything and lost​

Until Vladimir Putin lunched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in the early hours of February 24, he was winning his standoff with the West. He had compelled the United States and Europe to take his demands seriously; he experienced the pleasure of being treated as the leader of a great power; and he had succeeded in intimidating the Ukrainians as well as Russia’s other neighboring states and the wider world.

All he had to do to solidify his victory was to recognize the independence of the so-called separatist republics in the Donbas, acknowledge that Ukraine’s chances of joining NATO were nil, and continue his creeping subversion of Ukraine in the expectation that, sooner or later, it would drift back into Russia’s orbit.

And then he blew it all by invading Ukraine.

Overnight, Russia became a pariah state. The West has already imposed an expanding range of sanctions with more expected. International opinion has almost unanimously condemned Putin’s war of aggression, and thousands of his own citizens have expressed their opposition to the war in demonstrations and petitions.

Most importantly, Ukrainians have fought back, fiercely. This was something Putin probably did not expect. In his initial announcement of a “special military operation,” Putin called on Ukrainian soldiers to lay down their arms, not out of concern for their lives, but because he truly believed they would be happy to do so. But they weren’t and they didn’t. Instead, they have inflicted punishing losses on his invasion force and have inspired the watching world with their courage.

Now the supposed chess grandmaster Putin has effectively maneuvered himself into an unwinnable position. Ukrainians throughout the entire country, regardless of the language they prefer to speak, their religion or ethnic background, have rallied around the flag. Tens of thousands have volunteered for territorial defense units. Many more have donated blood. Untold others have handed over their savings to help finance the defense of the country. An historic wave of patriotic fervor has gripped Ukraine.

The Ukrainian nation has been joined by diaspora Ukrainians, who are now busy staging rallies and fundraising for their homeland. All these Ukrainians now consider themselves part of a modern Ukrainian nation that is as diverse as it is united in its opposition to Putin and everything he stands for: namely dictatorship and vassalage. Ukrainians have demonstrated that they love their country, despite all its extant faults, and that they are willing to sacrifice greatly for it.

Ukraine’s dramatic show of wartime unity and national strength is exceptionally inconvenient for Putin. In his increasingly unhinged attempts to justify his war, the Russian ruler has claimed to be fighting against a ragtag band of “fascists,” “Nazis,” and “drug addicts” who represent no one but their own interests and their “paymasters” in the West. As it turns out, Putin has declared war on a patriotic nation of more than 40 million people in a country the size of France.

His options are now all bad. He could still physically destroy Ukraine and commit a massive genocide against its inhabitants, but even the craziest of Russian imperialists would probably balk at the idea of what would be the most colossal atrocity in human history.

Putin may yet try to establish a puppet Ukrainian regime in Kyiv that would be happy to do his bidding, as intelligence reports have long predicted. However, that would mean occupying a huge country indefinitely. This would probably require around a million soldiers, all of whom would become targets of a Ukrainian resistance movement that would be sure to emerge.

Alternatively, Putin could try to work out some kind of deal with the current Ukrainian administration, but that would mean effectively admitting to his inner circle if not to the Russian people that his bloody enterprise had actually achieved nothing that negotiations could not have produced at far smaller cost.

I'm not sure he's lost. He's not going to stop his invasion of Ukraine, and the Russians will give him time to find alternative markets for the oil. Maybe I'm wrong, I hope so anyway.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Listen no one is falling for your pathetic attempts at gaslighting. If you are too weak kneed to acknowledge the reality that Trump and many Trumpers have supported Putin in the past, you are beyond having a rational conversation with.

Who's the guy buying all that russian oil again?