Will Trump, finally, put real pressure on Putin to stop the Ukraine war

[martybegan]

Why doesn't the US dell them and then they would not have to buy from Russia,

You think the US wouldn't sell to them?

How about they get more from the Saudis?

 

[Dorian Mode]

Europe does not want to end this war and continues to fund it. Europe woke up a few years ago and realized its military was the laughing stock of the world. They need this war to get rid of their old obsolete equipment and rearm themselves much better for the upcoming global war. Plus, Europe never knew what to do with Ukraine since Russia abandoned it, and the best thing for Europe now is to just let this war kill every Ukrainian and then they can divvy up the remaining land however they want. Plus, the longer this war goes on, the weaker Russia becomes. Destroying Ukraine is a double win for Europe.

 

[konradv]

Europe does not want to end this war and continues to fund it. Europe woke up a few years ago and realized its military was the laughing stock of the world. They need this war to get rid of their old obsolete equipment and rearm themselves much better for the upcoming global war. Plus, Europe never knew what to do with Ukraine since Russia abandoned it, and the best thing for Europe now is to just let this war kill every Ukrainian and then they can divvy the land however they want. Plus, the longer this war goes on, the weaker Russia becomes. Destroying Ukraine is a double win for Europe.

Ruzzian propaganda!

 

[0311]

Europe does not want to end this war and continues to fund it. Europe woke up a few years ago and realized its military was the laughing stock of the world. They need this war to get rid of their old obsolete equipment and rearm themselves much better for the upcoming global war. Plus, Europe never knew what to do with Ukraine since Russia abandoned it, and the best thing for Europe now is to just let this war kill every Ukrainian and then they can divvy up the remaining land however they want. Plus, the longer this war goes on, the weaker Russia becomes. Destroying Ukraine is a double win for Europe

Complete and utter fabricated bullshit. NATO used top rate U.S. equipment. Europe does NOT want this war. Pooty trying rebuild the now defunct Soviet Empire. IF Ukraine falls, Poland is next. Vlad the Impaler has dreams of new Russian Empire.

 

[ElmerMudd]

You think the US wouldn't sell to them?

How about they get more from the Saudis?

The reason European countries are stuck with Russia is supply chain. Many of the European countries are land locked and do not have means to transport oil to and through their nation.
That infrastructure is build for oil from Russia.

 

[martybegan]

The reason European countries are stuck with Russia is supply chain. Many of the European countries are land locked and do not have means to transport oil to and through their nation.
That infrastructure is build for oil from Russia.

Poland and Germany are not landlocked. They could have been building up port infrastructure for themselves as well as pipelines for the landlocked countries like Slovakia and the others.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Poland and Germany are not landlocked. They could have been building up port infrastructure for themselves as well as pipelines for the landlocked countries like Slovakia and the others.

That is being done, right now. It takes time and money to build the required supply chain.

 

[martybegan]

That is being done, right now. It takes time and money to build the required supply chain.

And all the while Russia gets $$.

If it was truly an emergency they would have had some form of it ready by now.

Also, any evidence they are "working on it"?

 

[ElmerMudd]

And all the while Russia gets $$.

If it was truly an emergency they would have had some form of it ready by now.

Also, any evidence they are "working on it"?

If you are so smart why don't you go over and tell them what they need to do to getit done faster.

They are not just thinking they are building.

 

[martybegan]

If you are so smart why don't you go over and tell them what they need to do to getit done faster.

They are not just thinking they are building.

They should have fucking figured it out themselves, so they don't give money to a government they are supposedly fighting against by proxy.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/eu-plan-end-russian-oil-gas-imports-due-out-may-2025-04-14/

The EU has pledged to quit Russian fossil fuels by 2027 in response to Moscow's 2022 invasion of Ukraine, but the Commission has delayed publishing its "roadmap" for how to do so. The plan was initially due last month.

Seems like a whole bunch of planning, and a not a whole bunch of doing, typical of what we know about lefty European governments.

 

[0311]

Europe does not want to end this war and continues to fund it. Europe woke up a few years ago and realized its military was the laughing stock of the world. They need this war to get rid of their old obsolete equipment and rearm themselves much better for the upcoming global war. Plus, Europe never knew what to do with Ukraine since Russia abandoned it, and the best thing for Europe now is to just let this war kill every Ukrainian and then they can divvy up the remaining land however they want. Plus, the longer this war goes on, the weaker Russia becomes. Destroying Ukraine is a double win for Europe

The top three main battle tanks are manufactured in Europe. The British Challenger, the French Leclerc and the German Leopard 2. They put the Abrams to shame.

The main French attack fighter is the Dassault Rafale. Britain flies the Typhoon and Germany flies the Euro Typhoon. They more than handle current Russian Sukhoi Su-35. FYI, Poland flies the U.S.
F-16 Fighting Falcon, are you the U.S. is shit? The Polish main battle tank is the PT-91 Twady.

Stop pushing bullshit Russian Propaganda.

 

[ElmerMudd]

They should have fucking figured it out themselves, so they don't give money to a government they are supposedly fighting against by proxy.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/eu-plan-end-russian-oil-gas-imports-due-out-may-2025-04-14/



Seems like a whole bunch of planning, and a not a whole bunch of doing, typical of what we know about lefty European governments.

At least the european countries do not have leaders kissing Putin's ass. It is embarrassing.

 

[martybegan]

At least the european countries do not have leaders kissing Putin's ass. It is embarrassing.

No, they have been paying Putin to kill Ukrainians.

But words are SO MUCH FUCKING WORSE, right?

 

[bendog]

Define what real pressure Trump should use? Economic sanctions have not worked in the past increase military aid how much more? What amount of U.S military equipment would you support going to Ukraine? American troops on the ground in Ukraine? Saying apply real pressure is easy and where was that real pressure on Putin from the previous administration?

oh, Trumpy could put a 500% tariff on any country that buys Rusky oil.

 

[0311]

At least the european countries do not have leaders kissing Putin's ass. It is embarrassing.

I really like the way King Charlie 3 gave the finger to 47 in visit to Canada. The Prime Minister the elected leader of Canada, Charlie the Canadian Head of State. 47don't know shit.

 

[Contumacious]

Will Trump, finally, put real pressure on Putin to stop the Ukraine war.
Trump has been embarrassed by Putin increasing the fighting in the war after Trump's attempts to stop the war.
He called Putin Crazy and a killer.
If Trump does not take actions that put real pressure on Russia it will show Putin owns Trump.

President Donald Trump says Russian leader Vladimir Putin 'has gone absolutely CRAZY!'

President Donald Trump is making clear he is losing patience with Vladimir Putin, leveling some of his sharpest criticism at the Russian leader as Moscow pounds Kyiv and other Ukrainian cities with drones and missiles for a third straight night.

apnews.com

The CIA Proxy war in Ukraine was started by the CIA - it will end when the CIA, Lindsey Graham . Marco Rubio, et al end it.


"Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov noted were “aimed at military facilities, and on military targets,” in retaliation for the hundreds of Ukrainian drones intercepted by Russian air defenses that targeted “civilian infrastructure.”

Trump has ignored the Ukrainian drone attacks, and instead focused on Putin, accusing the Russian President of “playing with fire,” and saying, “if it weren’t for me, lots of really bad things would have already happened to Russia, and I mean REALLY BAD.”

Will Russia TAKE THE GLOVES OFF Against Kiev as NATO Escalates War? | Fmr US Diplomat Jim Jatras

Russia launched another night of its largest drone and missile attacks, which Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov noted were “aimed at military facilities, and on military targets,” in retaliation for the hundreds of Ukrainian drones intercepted by Russian air defenses that targeted

rachelblevins.substack.com

 

[Zincwarrior]

That is being done, right now. It takes time and money to build the required supply chain.

Its also been what, three years?

 

[blackhawk]

oh, Trumpy could put a 500% tariff on any country that buys Rusky oil.

Oh so now the lefty’s support tariffs.

 

[bendog]

Oh so now the lefty’s support tariffs.
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sonny, I was a goper before you loved dump.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Will Trump, finally, put real pressure on Putin to stop the Ukraine war.

No.

Trump is reckless and incompetent, a true Putin useful idiot.