Will Trump, finally, put real pressure on Putin to stop the Ukraine war

[C_Clayton_Jones]

If Russia loses that means NATO can move into Ukraine. That was the reason for the war in the first place. Russia didn't want NATO on the border.

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Another Putin useful idiot.

 

[MagicMike]

Define what real pressure Trump should use? Economic sanctions have not worked in the past increase military aid how much more? What amount of U.S military equipment would you support going to Ukraine? American troops on the ground in Ukraine? Saying apply real pressure is easy and where was that real pressure on Putin from the previous administration?

Looks like Zelenskyy gets the last laugh on Trump and J.D. Vance.
In that meeting in February they thought they were really hot shits ganging up on Zelenskyy trying to tell him Putin wanted peace.
When Zelenskyy (in effect) told them they were full of shit is when they began their little dumb & dumber outrage skit against him that made them both look like fools.
And now they look like even BIGGER fools because it turns out Zelenskyy knew exactly what he was talking about and neither one of those two circus clowns did.
That's the difference between a strong, and most importantly competent leader like Volodymyr Zelenskyy and a slimy, convicted felon con-man like Donald Trump. Trump thinks all you need is a big mouth to get things done. Zelenskyy knows that Vladimir Putin laughs at Trump and his big mouth and has always just considered Trump a useful idiot to do his bidding in attacking and dismantling western democracy. Trump has done an admirable job for Vlad towards this end but now his usefulness has almost expired.
Trump senses this and he's scared shitless now and he doesn't know what to do or where to turn.
He promised he could end this war within 24 hours of taking office...because he believed he and Putin were "pals," but Vlad was just stringing him along, knowing how abjectly STUPID and easy to manipulate Trump is.
Now Putin is laughing at Trump and at the equally STUPID Americans who voted for him.
Trump has to find a clever way to save face now that he realizes he has never had the pull with Putin he thought, and assured us, he had.
There may even be pee-pee tapes coming out soon to add insult to injury for The Donald
Vladimir Putin is one ice hearted motherfucker.

 

[ElmerMudd]

No, they have been paying Putin to kill Ukrainians.

But words are SO MUCH FUCKING WORSE, right?

You are a hopeless Trump MAGA cult member. There is nothing he could do that you would not stand up for him. Sad and pathetic.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Its also been what, three years?

You don't have a clue.

 

[Zincwarrior]

You don't have a clue.

The Wife, kids, Poodle, random babies walking by, all often have the same opinion of me.

 

[ElmerMudd]

The Wife, kids, Poodle, random babies walking by, all often have the same opinion of me.

At least your honest.

 

[Deadstick]

The top three main battle tanks are manufactured in Europe. The British Challenger, the French Leclerc and the German Leopard 2. They put the Abrams to shame.

The main French attack fighter is the Dassault Rafale. Britain flies the Typhoon and Germany flies the Euro Typhoon. They more than handle current Russian Sukhoi Su-35. FYI, Poland flies the U.S.
F-16 Fighting Falcon, are you the U.S. is shit? The Polish main battle tank is the PT-91 Twady.

Stop pushing bullshit Russian Propaganda.

They have all been turned to scrap metal on the Battlefield.

 

[Deadstick]

Complete and utter fabricated bullshit. NATO used top rate U.S. equipment. Europe does NOT want this war. Pooty trying rebuild the now defunct Soviet Empire. IF Ukraine falls, Poland is next. Vlad the Impaler has dreams of new Russian Empire.

Who told you that bollocks?

 

[Zincwarrior]

At least your honest.

Thats 'you're'

 

[The Duke]

Yes, "Catturd" is a real authority on this topic, gomer.

Putin has completely played Trump, to one's surprise. Trump is Putin's little bitch and always will be.

Putin and Zelensky are gonna have to slog it out, I guess.
Idk, EU is talking about doing something? Will they really?
That situation requires a lot more than lip service.

 

[The Duke]

Looks like Zelenskyy gets the last laugh on Trump and J.D. Vance.
In that meeting in February they thought they were really hot shits ganging up on Zelenskyy trying to tell him Putin wanted peace.
When Zelenskyy (in effect) told them they were full of shit is when they began their little dumb & dumber outrage skit against him that made them both look like fools.
And now they look like even BIGGER fools because it turns out Zelenskyy knew exactly what he was talking about and neither one of those two circus clowns did.
That's the difference between a strong, and most importantly competent leader like Volodymyr Zelenskyy and a slimy, convicted felon con-man like Donald Trump. Trump thinks all you need is a big mouth to get things done. Zelenskyy knows that Vladimir Putin laughs at Trump and his big mouth and has always just considered Trump a useful idiot to do his bidding in attacking and dismantling western democracy. Trump has done an admirable job for Vlad towards this end but now his usefulness has almost expired.
Trump senses this and he's scared shitless now and he doesn't know what to do or where to turn.
He promised he could end this war within 24 hours of taking office...because he believed he and Putin were "pals," but Vlad was just stringing him along, knowing how abjectly STUPID and easy to manipulate Trump is.
Now Putin is laughing at Trump and at the equally STUPID Americans who voted for him.
Trump has to find a clever way to save face now that he realizes he has never had the pull with Putin he thought, and assured us, he had.
There may even be pee-pee tapes coming out soon to add insult to injury for The Donald
Vladimir Putin is one ice hearted motherfucker.

You are like the anti-whatever I am.
We are not the same.

 

[MagicMike]

You are like the anti-whatever I am.
We are not the same.

Aw c'mon Dukester. There may be a lot more Socialist-Liberal in you than you care to admit.
It's ok to come out of the closet whenever you are ready.

 

[martybegan]

You are a hopeless Trump MAGA cult member. There is nothing he could do that you would not stand up for him. Sad and pathetic.

Your lack of an ability to respond is noted, and shoved up your well used ass.

 

[JohnDB]

Cheerleading for RU is like cheering for this MP guy.

There ARE ways to assist Ukraine that involves zero weapons. And with Putin acting nuts lately.....dunno who is really running the show over there. Or who is really running Ukraine for that matter.

 

[Deadstick]

Cheerleading for RU is like cheering for this MP guy.

There ARE ways to assist Ukraine that involves zero weapons. And with Putin acting nuts lately.....dunno who is really running the show over there. Or who is really running Ukraine for that matter.

Russia responding to 800 Ukrainian drones from Ukraine over three days that Trump was not told about before his unhinged outburst is really nuts, what was he thinking.

 

[JohnDB]

Russia responding to 800 Ukrainian drones from Ukraine over three days that Trump was not told about before his unhinged outburst is really nuts, what was he thinking.

There's no telling.

I'll give Trump credit that he and his staff have been super busy. Working at breakneck speed. They have done more in the 1st 100 days than most past presidents during 8 years in office.

So for Trump himself to spout off over something and not be fully briefed to the current status on the subject is to be expected.
Spouting off is one thing. Actions are another.

He is definitely doing 10x better that the potatoe we had last term.

 

[Deadstick]

There's no telling.

I'll give Trump credit that he and his staff have been super busy. Working at breakneck speed. They have done more in the 1st 100 days than most past presidents during 8 years in office.

So for Trump himself to spout off over something and not be fully briefed to the current status on the subject is to be expected.
Spouting off is one thing. Actions are another.

He is definitely doing 10x better that the potatoe we had last term.

Well we all know what that clown Genocide joe did but Trump seems to be all over the place, he has done nothing to put the leash on that psycho Netnyahu. Trump could end it tomorrow and send in the Marines to feed starving Palestinians, some of the kids look like they came out of Belsen.

 

[JohnDB]

Well we all know what that clown Genocide joe did but Trump seems to be all over the place, he has done nothing to put the leash on that psycho Netnyahu. Trump could end it tomorrow and send in the Marines to feed starving Palestinians, some of the kids look like they came out of Belsen.
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There is no need to bring US troops into that theater. They would be nothing but targets.
The Palestinians started this conflict. Somewhat....
If I were them, despite the fully entrenched demand resistance....I'd find anywhere else on the planet to live.

Because lately, it seems to me, that getting involved in politics in any meaningful way is a sure fire means to destroying whatever life you hope to have. (Anywhere in the world including the USA).

Look at the J6 demonstrators....their lives were certainly upended for demonstrating....even those who did not enter the Capitol building. Not to mention that a ton of democrats are facing jail time and stiff penalties for being coerced into breaking election laws or abusing their positions in Government. (In the USA....other countries are doing similarly, or worse, for just posting opinions on social media).

It's getting really scary out there.
Politics has become a full contact sport of late.

 

[Ringo]

 

[Deadstick]

Cheerleading for RU is like cheering for this MP guy.

There ARE ways to assist Ukraine that involves zero weapons. And with Putin acting nuts lately.....dunno who is really running the show over there. Or who is really running Ukraine for that matter.

There are no kidnapped kids there are evacuated kids from an active war zone.