So, is the left denouncing Obama's "unlawful" war in Libya?

[Jack Fate]

Bush had almost unanimous support from his own party on Iraq. The only substantial opposition was from the Left.

partial list of influential conservatives/libertarians that opposed bombing iraq in 2003:

Tariq Ali (The Independent)
Michael R. Allen (Spintech Magazine)
Andrew J. Bacevich (Boston University)
Doug Bandow (Copley Newspapers)
Klaus Becker (We the People of Nebraska)
Art Bell (Art Bell Radio Show)
Jim Bell (Jim Bell Radio Show)
Tony Benn (British Parliament)
David Bergland (Libertarian Party)
Tom Bethell (American Spectator)
Michael Bliss (University of Toronto)
Samuel L. Blumenfeld (Chalcedon Magazine)
Burton S. Blumert (LibertarianStudies.org)
Alan Bock (Orange County Register)
Neal Boortz (Neal Boortz Radio Show)
Mark Brady (peace activist)
Phil Brennan (Wednesday on the Web)
David M. Bresnahan (WorldNetDaily.com)
Harold O.J. Brown (Reformed Theological Seminary)
Thad Brown (peace activist)
Harry Browne (Harry Browne Radio Show)
Gene Burns (Gene Burns Radio Show)
Jason Butler (The Butler Report)
Pat Buchanan (American Cause)
Gerald A. Carroll (columnist)
Ted Galen Carpenter (Cato Institute)
Howey Carr (Howey Carr Radio Show)
Helen Chenoweth (R-ID)
Noam Chomsky (MIT)
Alan Clark (British Parliament)
Ramsey Clark (International Action Center)
Alexander Cockburn (The Nation)
Ada Coddington (conservative activist)
Charles W. Colson (Prison Fellowship Ministries)
Sandra Crosnoe (Associated Conservatives of Texas)
John Dear (Fellowship of Reconciliation)
John V. Denson (Mises Institute)
Thomas DiLorenzo (Loyola College)
John D'Aloia, Jr. (St. Mary's Star)
Jack DeVault (author, The Waco Whitewash)
John Doggett (John Doggett Radio Show)
Bob Djurdjevic (TruthinMedia.org)
Jim Eason (Jim Eason Radio Show)
Rev. David Eberhard (Historic Trinity Lutheran Church)
Lou Epton (Lou Epton Radio Show)
Barry Farber (Barry Farber Radio Show)
Joseph Farah (WorldNetDaily.com)
Don Feder (Boston Herald)
Doug Fiedor (Heads Up)
Robert Fisk (The Independent)
Thomas Fleming (Chronicles Magazine)
Kerry Fox (News-Minute.com)
Samuel Francis (Foundation Endowment)
Eric Garris (Antiwar.com)
David Gold (David Gold Radio Show)
William Norman Grigg (New American Magazine)
Paul Gottfried (Elizabethtown College)
Kevin Michael Grace (BC Report)
Bob Grant (Bob Grant Radio Show)
Steven Greenhut (Orange County Register)
Bishop Thomas Gumbleton (Archdiocese of Detroit)
David H. Hackworth (Defending America)
Ken Hamblin (Ken Hamblin Radio Show)
Sean Hannity (Fox News)
Chuck Harder (For the People)
Robert Hayden (University of Pittsburgh)
Lord Healey (British House of Lords)
Nat Hentoff (civil liberties activist)
Edward S. Herman (Temple University)
Robert Higgs (Independent Review)
James Hill (James Hill's Weekly)
Michael Hill (League of the South)
Arriana Huffington (Ctr for the Study of Popular Culture)
Sam Husseini (Institute for Public Accuracy)
Simon Jenkins (The Times of London)
Pope John Paul II
Diana Johnstone (Z Magazine)
Barrett Kalellis (Detroit News)
Kathy Kelly (Voices in the Wilderness)
Martin Kelley (NonViolence.org)
Michael Kelly (National Journal)
Jack Kemp (Empower America)
George Kenney (In These Times)
Alan Keyes (Alan Keyes Radio Show)
Michael T. Klare (Hampshire College)
Christian E. Kopff (University of Colorado)
Christopher Layne (MacArthur Peace Fellow)
Barbara Lee (D-CA)
Edward Luttwak (Atlantic Monthly)
David MacReynolds (War Resisters League)
Scott McConnell (New York Press)
Cynthia McKinney (D-GA)
Jack McManus (John Birch Society)
Veran Matic (Radio B-92)
Dan Meredith (Dixie Rising Radio)
Geoff Metcalf (Geoff Metcalf Radio Show)
Laura Mildon (Mad Dog News)
Joel Miller (Real Mensch)
Zoran Milutinovic (Wesleyan University)
Paul Miniato (Canadian libertarian activist)
Betty Molchany (peace activist)
Carol Moore (peace activist)
Jay Moore (Jay's Leftist Internet Resources)
Melanie Morgan (Lee Rogers Radio Show)
Mary Mostert (OriginalSources.com)
Mancow Muller (Mancow Muller Radio Show)
Lars Erik Nelson (New York Daily News)
Robby Noel (American Freedom Network)
Oliver North (Oliver North Radio Show)
Bob Novak (Chicago Sun Times)
Vince Page (columnist)
Camile Paglia (Salon Magazine)
Matthew Parris (The Spectator of London)
Ron Paul (R-TX)
Svetozar Pejovic (Texas A&M)
Howard Phillips (Conservative Caucus)
Stephen Presser (Northwestern University)
Jim Quinn (Quinn in the Morning Radio Show)
Ralph Raico (Buffalo State College)
Justin Raimondo (peace activist)
Charley Reese (Orlando Sentinel)
Lord Rees-Mogg (British House of Lords)
Sheldon Richman (Future of Freedom Foundation)
David E. Rockett (Agrarian Foundation)
Thomas Roeser (Chicago Sun-Times)
Lee Rogers (Lee Rogers Radio Show)
A.M. Rosenthal (New York Times)
Edward Said (Columbia University)
Alex Salmond (Scottish National Party)
Debra J. Saunders (San Francisco Chronicle)
Michael Savage (Michael Savage Radio Show)
Phyllis Schlafly (Eagle Forum)
Helmut Schmidt (former German chancellor)
Benjamin Schwarz (Atlantic Monthly)
Mark Scott (Mark Scott Radio Show)
John Seiler (Orange County Register)
Jay Severin (MS-NBC)
Ariel Sharon (Israeli Parliament)
Barbara Simpson (Barbara Simpson Radio Show)
Nancy Small (Pax Christi U.S.A.)
Bob Smith (R-NH)
Julianne Smith (British American Security Information Council)
Ron Smith (Ron Smith Radio Show)
Sam Smith (Progressive Review)
Tony Snow (Detroit News)
Joe Sobran (The Wanderer)
Norman Solomon (Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting)
Thomas Sowell (Hoover Institution)
Norman Stone (University of Istanbul)
Michael Stoudenmire (peace activist)
Clifford Thies (Republican Liberty Caucus)
G. C. Thomas (Marquette University)
Doug Thompson (CapitolHillBlue.com)
Srdja Trifkovic (Lord Byron Foundation for Balkan Studies) R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. (American Spectator)
Jon Basil Utley (IraqWar.org)
Tom Walls (peace activist)
Jude Wanniski (Polyconomics.com)
Paul Weyrich (Free Congress Foundation) Timothy J. Wheeler (conservative activist) Carl Wiglesworth (Carl Wiglesworth Radio Show)
Rev. J. Steven Wilkins (Auburn Avenue Presbyterian Church)
Walter Williams (George Mason University)
Garry Wills (Johns Hopkins University)
Douglas Wilson (Credenda)
Jerry Zeifman (WorldNetDaily.com)

conservative leaders who oppose bombing

any other BULL SHIT that you want to provide us with?

When I got to 'Art Bell' I literally spit out half a mouthful of leftover corned beef.



147 Democrats voted against the Iraq war authorization.

Quick! How many Republicans voted against it???

How many democrats voted for it?

 

[NYcarbineer]

partial list of influential conservatives/libertarians that opposed bombing iraq in 2003:

Tariq Ali (The Independent)
Michael R. Allen (Spintech Magazine)
Andrew J. Bacevich (Boston University)
Doug Bandow (Copley Newspapers)
Klaus Becker (We the People of Nebraska)
Art Bell (Art Bell Radio Show)
Jim Bell (Jim Bell Radio Show)
Tony Benn (British Parliament)
David Bergland (Libertarian Party)
Tom Bethell (American Spectator)
Michael Bliss (University of Toronto)
Samuel L. Blumenfeld (Chalcedon Magazine)
Burton S. Blumert (LibertarianStudies.org)
Alan Bock (Orange County Register)
Neal Boortz (Neal Boortz Radio Show)
Mark Brady (peace activist)
Phil Brennan (Wednesday on the Web)
David M. Bresnahan (WorldNetDaily.com)
Harold O.J. Brown (Reformed Theological Seminary)
Thad Brown (peace activist)
Harry Browne (Harry Browne Radio Show)
Gene Burns (Gene Burns Radio Show)
Jason Butler (The Butler Report)
Pat Buchanan (American Cause)
Gerald A. Carroll (columnist)
Ted Galen Carpenter (Cato Institute)
Howey Carr (Howey Carr Radio Show)
Helen Chenoweth (R-ID)
Noam Chomsky (MIT)
Alan Clark (British Parliament)
Ramsey Clark (International Action Center)
Alexander Cockburn (The Nation)
Ada Coddington (conservative activist)
Charles W. Colson (Prison Fellowship Ministries)
Sandra Crosnoe (Associated Conservatives of Texas)
John Dear (Fellowship of Reconciliation)
John V. Denson (Mises Institute)
Thomas DiLorenzo (Loyola College)
John D'Aloia, Jr. (St. Mary's Star)
Jack DeVault (author, The Waco Whitewash)
John Doggett (John Doggett Radio Show)
Bob Djurdjevic (TruthinMedia.org)
Jim Eason (Jim Eason Radio Show)
Rev. David Eberhard (Historic Trinity Lutheran Church)
Lou Epton (Lou Epton Radio Show)
Barry Farber (Barry Farber Radio Show)
Joseph Farah (WorldNetDaily.com)
Don Feder (Boston Herald)
Doug Fiedor (Heads Up)
Robert Fisk (The Independent)
Thomas Fleming (Chronicles Magazine)
Kerry Fox (News-Minute.com)
Samuel Francis (Foundation Endowment)
Eric Garris (Antiwar.com)
David Gold (David Gold Radio Show)
William Norman Grigg (New American Magazine)
Paul Gottfried (Elizabethtown College)
Kevin Michael Grace (BC Report)
Bob Grant (Bob Grant Radio Show)
Steven Greenhut (Orange County Register)
Bishop Thomas Gumbleton (Archdiocese of Detroit)
David H. Hackworth (Defending America)
Ken Hamblin (Ken Hamblin Radio Show)
Sean Hannity (Fox News)
Chuck Harder (For the People)
Robert Hayden (University of Pittsburgh)
Lord Healey (British House of Lords)
Nat Hentoff (civil liberties activist)
Edward S. Herman (Temple University)
Robert Higgs (Independent Review)
James Hill (James Hill's Weekly)
Michael Hill (League of the South)
Arriana Huffington (Ctr for the Study of Popular Culture)
Sam Husseini (Institute for Public Accuracy)
Simon Jenkins (The Times of London)
Pope John Paul II
Diana Johnstone (Z Magazine)
Barrett Kalellis (Detroit News)
Kathy Kelly (Voices in the Wilderness)
Martin Kelley (NonViolence.org)
Michael Kelly (National Journal)
Jack Kemp (Empower America)
George Kenney (In These Times)
Alan Keyes (Alan Keyes Radio Show)
Michael T. Klare (Hampshire College)
Christian E. Kopff (University of Colorado)
Christopher Layne (MacArthur Peace Fellow)
Barbara Lee (D-CA)
Edward Luttwak (Atlantic Monthly)
David MacReynolds (War Resisters League)
Scott McConnell (New York Press)
Cynthia McKinney (D-GA)
Jack McManus (John Birch Society)
Veran Matic (Radio B-92)
Dan Meredith (Dixie Rising Radio)
Geoff Metcalf (Geoff Metcalf Radio Show)
Laura Mildon (Mad Dog News)
Joel Miller (Real Mensch)
Zoran Milutinovic (Wesleyan University)
Paul Miniato (Canadian libertarian activist)
Betty Molchany (peace activist)
Carol Moore (peace activist)
Jay Moore (Jay's Leftist Internet Resources)
Melanie Morgan (Lee Rogers Radio Show)
Mary Mostert (OriginalSources.com)
Mancow Muller (Mancow Muller Radio Show)
Lars Erik Nelson (New York Daily News)
Robby Noel (American Freedom Network)
Oliver North (Oliver North Radio Show)
Bob Novak (Chicago Sun Times)
Vince Page (columnist)
Camile Paglia (Salon Magazine)
Matthew Parris (The Spectator of London)
Ron Paul (R-TX)
Svetozar Pejovic (Texas A&M)
Howard Phillips (Conservative Caucus)
Stephen Presser (Northwestern University)
Jim Quinn (Quinn in the Morning Radio Show)
Ralph Raico (Buffalo State College)
Justin Raimondo (peace activist)
Charley Reese (Orlando Sentinel)
Lord Rees-Mogg (British House of Lords)
Sheldon Richman (Future of Freedom Foundation)
David E. Rockett (Agrarian Foundation)
Thomas Roeser (Chicago Sun-Times)
Lee Rogers (Lee Rogers Radio Show)
A.M. Rosenthal (New York Times)
Edward Said (Columbia University)
Alex Salmond (Scottish National Party)
Debra J. Saunders (San Francisco Chronicle)
Michael Savage (Michael Savage Radio Show)
Phyllis Schlafly (Eagle Forum)
Helmut Schmidt (former German chancellor)
Benjamin Schwarz (Atlantic Monthly)
Mark Scott (Mark Scott Radio Show)
John Seiler (Orange County Register)
Jay Severin (MS-NBC)
Ariel Sharon (Israeli Parliament)
Barbara Simpson (Barbara Simpson Radio Show)
Nancy Small (Pax Christi U.S.A.)
Bob Smith (R-NH)
Julianne Smith (British American Security Information Council)
Ron Smith (Ron Smith Radio Show)
Sam Smith (Progressive Review)
Tony Snow (Detroit News)
Joe Sobran (The Wanderer)
Norman Solomon (Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting)
Thomas Sowell (Hoover Institution)
Norman Stone (University of Istanbul)
Michael Stoudenmire (peace activist)
Clifford Thies (Republican Liberty Caucus)
G. C. Thomas (Marquette University)
Doug Thompson (CapitolHillBlue.com)
Srdja Trifkovic (Lord Byron Foundation for Balkan Studies) R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. (American Spectator)
Jon Basil Utley (IraqWar.org)
Tom Walls (peace activist)
Jude Wanniski (Polyconomics.com)
Paul Weyrich (Free Congress Foundation) Timothy J. Wheeler (conservative activist) Carl Wiglesworth (Carl Wiglesworth Radio Show)
Rev. J. Steven Wilkins (Auburn Avenue Presbyterian Church)
Walter Williams (George Mason University)
Garry Wills (Johns Hopkins University)
Douglas Wilson (Credenda)
Jerry Zeifman (WorldNetDaily.com)

conservative leaders who oppose bombing

any other BULL SHIT that you want to provide us with?

When I got to 'Art Bell' I literally spit out half a mouthful of leftover corned beef.



147 Democrats voted against the Iraq war authorization.

Quick! How many Republicans voted against it???

you eat meat??

I swear to Jesus as I typed that I wondered if someone would think that.

 

[Stephanie]

maybe you can stick to the thread TOPIC?

Tell me, are we witnessing a cultural shift? Have conservatives become peaceniks now?

If so, here's what you should do. Make a bunch of tie dyed t-shirts, pile into a VW microbus, drive to DC and hold a rally while singing "Give Peace a Chance," and chanting "Make Love Not War" when the Capitol Police start swinging their batons.

It's that unwritten conservative rule: you must find some way to oppose Obama even when he's doing what you agree with.

ummm, show me where people are AGREEING with Obama besides you Obamabots.

 

[Mad Scientist]

The Liberals at DU are tearing each other apart.

 

[Big Fitz]

Along those same lines, I wonder now what our objective is in Lybia and how we will know that we have met it?

Distraction? Yep. Met it.

 

[Truthmatters]

So you guys want us to bomb Iran but you want gadafi left alone?

Tell me why you see these two countries differently?

 

[Jack Fate]

So you guys want us to bomb Iran but you want gadafi left alone?

Tell me why you see these two countries differently?

We are just wondering why would Obama bomb a country that never attacked us when he clearly stated during his campaign that going into Iraq when they never attacked us and having Gitmo open was creating terrorists. Obama still has Gitmo open and he is bombing a country that never attacked us.

Do you seee a problem here?

 

[Mad Scientist]

So you guys want us to bomb Iran but you want gadafi left alone?

Tell me why you see these two countries differently?

We are just wondering why would Obama bomb a country that never attacked us when he clearly stated during his campaign that going into Iraq when they never attacked us and having Gitmo open was creating terrorists. Obama still has Gitmo open and he is bombing a country that never attacked us.

Do you seee a problem here?

Zing!

 

[Big Black Dog]

I surprised that Obama would attack his muslim brothers... Seems a bit odd to me.

 

[Truthmatters]

So you guys want us to bomb Iran but you want gadafi left alone?

Tell me why you see these two countries differently?

We are just wondering why would Obama bomb a country that never attacked us when he clearly stated during his campaign that going into Iraq when they never attacked us and having Gitmo open was creating terrorists. Obama still has Gitmo open and he is bombing a country that never attacked us.

Do you seee a problem here?

Nope because it is NOT obama going after Libya its the UN.

Gitmo should be closed and I dont agree with keeping it open.

We did desert storm for the same type of reason this is being done.

The will of the majority of the people in these countries is being beaten back by a dictator and deaths are taking place.

Was Desert storm bad like you say this action is?

 

[Jack Fate]

I'm really concerned about all these muslims that are geing riled up because they are being bombed and Gitmo is still open. This is very concerning for our safety. Why would Obama keep doing what he said was a "failed policy"? Is he stupid?

 

[Grace]

Wasnt this a UN decision, with lots of "yeah, lets do it" from France and Britain?

 

[Jack Fate]

So you guys want us to bomb Iran but you want gadafi left alone?

Tell me why you see these two countries differently?

We are just wondering why would Obama bomb a country that never attacked us when he clearly stated during his campaign that going into Iraq when they never attacked us and having Gitmo open was creating terrorists. Obama still has Gitmo open and he is bombing a country that never attacked us.

Do you seee a problem here?

Nope because it is NOT obama going after Libya its the UN.

Gitmo should be closed and I dont agree with keeping it open.

We did desert storm for the same type of reason this is being done.

The will of the majority of the people in these countries is being beaten back by a dictator and deaths are taking place.

Was Desert storm bad like you say this action is?

Wrong. Those are US ships launching those missiles and they are under the authority of Obama, not the UN. Besides that, when did congress give Obama permission to launch this strike?

Gitmo is still open. What should be is irrelevant.

The will of the majority of the people in Iraq was being beaten back by a dictator and deaths were taking place. Thousands and thousands.

I don't think Desert Storm was bad and I don't think the invasion of Iraq was bad. The left did. Obama said that invading Iraq and Gitmore were failed policies. Now he is doing the same thing. Is he stupid?

 

[Grace]

Annnnnnnnnnnd...the finger pointing and blame has already started. Just as I feared. But its starting here. Which makes me wonder what the plans are over there for OBAMA daring to START THIS WAR while conveniently forgetting about the UN, France and Britain.

 

[Trajan]

maybe you can stick to the thread TOPIC?

Tell me, are we witnessing a cultural shift? Have conservatives become peaceniks now?

If so, here's what you should do. Make a bunch of tie dyed t-shirts, pile into a VW microbus, drive to DC and hold a rally while singing "Give Peace a Chance," and chanting "Make Love Not War" when the Capitol Police start swinging their batons.

It's that unwritten conservative rule: you must find some way to oppose Obama even when he's doing what you agree with.

no, I am not sure thats it, I for one am still looking for some consistency, what is the deal with Yemen and Bahrain?

 

[Jack Fate]

Wasnt this a UN decision, with lots of "yeah, lets do it" from France and Britain?

The UN doesn't tell the USA who to bomb. According to our Constitution, congress gives the President authority. Congress never discussed this. This is clearly an unconstitutional act and Obama should be impeached.

 

[TheSeeker]

Obama is waging a WAR FOR OIL!!!!

IMPEACH HIM!

Where's Code Pink????

 

[Lumpy 1]

I'm thinking it's time for Obama to give back that Nobel Peace Prize...

Killing the innocent, rendition, phone taps, Gitmo.. sheesh what is it with this Guy...?

 

[Jack Fate]

I'm thinking it's time for Obama to give back that Nobel Peace Prize...

Killing the innocent, rendition, phone taps, Gitmo.. sheesh what is it with this Guy...?

He's a phoney. That's what it is with this guy.

 

[Stephanie]

He's also a war Criminal that should be Prosecuted.

calling the Hague