So, is the left denouncing Obama's "unlawful" war in Libya?

[washamericom]

In their infinite wisdom, removing Gadafi from power is not a military objective for the US. Early in the month Obama clearly stated that was what he wanted. Is the President bipolar?

i believe that, there is some pathological element within this president, and some of his fanatical followers.

 

[skookerasbil]

Letting a dictator kill his people at his insane whim is not going to be good for anyone in the world.

If Gadafi is allowed to bomb his own people until only his cronies are left what do you think that says to the rest of the countries on the brink of revolution for democracy?

You people just hate anything this president does no matter what it is.

This is a UN action and not a declared war.

Indeed.........so by that standard, Muslim radicals should have no problem with it!!!


Hey.....do lefties excel in moral equivilence horseshit or what??!!!!!!!!!

Indeed son........its a failure to be able to recognize categorical realities in political terms.

 

[Hot Wire]

No? Well then what is the problem with Iraq again? (Not that I am defending Iraq, I thought it was dumb, I think military action in Libya is dumb too). So...where are the left's cries for peace like in 2003?

Apparently, you failed to note the announcement by the Arab League and the vote in the UN to authorize a no fly zone and the necessary use of force to implement it. Did Bush have either of those kinds of international authorizations prior to invading Iraq?

Who cares about the arab league or UN,This is a civil war between muslims.
You are a hypocrite liberal and now a blood lusting WAR MONGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

This is another example of liberals having the principles of a small soap dish.............

The political poop is..........Obama stands to lose ZERO on the left here but will gain support from independents so its a political win-win. The left should be rejoicing this am..........

 

[The Gadfly]

I'm going to do the same thing now, that I do every time the United States takes military action, and assume the Commander-in-Chief has access to information the rest of us do not have, and has acted accordingly. One thing I am not going to do, is base my support for my country's actions on the political views of the man who sits behind that desk, or how I personally feel about them. In other words, I am NOT going to engage in any of the self-serving Bravo Sierra the left engaged in with regard to Bush's actions in Iraq and Afghanistan, or some conservatives engaged in in with regard to Clinton's actions in the Balkans.

I hope that this action has been thought through, has a clearly defined objective, and is being executed in a manner and at a time which will achieve the desired result. If there are deficiencies in that regard, the time to address those is if and when they become evident.

There is no point in blathering about an "unconstitutional war"; this president, like any other, has the right to act, and then seek congressional approval later, if required; that's clearly spelled out, and there is ample precedent.

Those who honestly feel that all wars are wrong, should object now; that's consistent with their principles. Those who normally support U.S. military intervention, should not object now, merely because of who's in charge; that's hypocritical. I for one, am sick and tired of seeing the selective, ideologically motivated "outrage" based simply on which party is in power, and aimed at securing political advantage, rather than securing America's objectives. I have seen enough phony morality of that sort from Vietnam to the present day. The left has been guilty of the majority of this, but some conservatives have done the same (again, for their own selfish reasons) and so, I am not giving anyone a free pass on it.

Let this action be praised or damned on its own merits. If this turns out to be another poor war plan, then let this administration be held responsible, just as the Bush administration was held responsible for a poor war plan in Iraq. If it is successful, then give credit where credit is due.

I don't care for this president's politics; I didn't vote for him, and I find a lot of fault with this administration. Nonetheless, I'm NOT going to act like a lot of those on the left, who wanted America's policy to fail, so they could bash Bush. We have one president at a time, Obama is it right now. I want my country to succeed, and if that means Obama succeeds, so be it.

 

[SgtMeowenstein]

You really need to think before you hit that 'submit reply' button. The US is part of the UN. The US, along with other member nations, voted to enforce a no-fly zone. Since the US voted for this, how is the UN forcing the US to do anything? The UN didn't force the US to withdraw troops from Iraq after Bush ignored the will of the UN. If they don't have the power to force a withdrawal, how do they have the power to force the US to use military action? Turn off Limbaugh. He's rotting your brain.

tsk tsk tsk meowenstien.. tsk tsk tsk.

Did you have something to add to that, or do you just like to click your tongue?

 

[bodecea]

In their infinite wisdom, removing Gadafi from power is not a military objective for the US. Early in the month Obama clearly stated that was what he wanted. Is the President bipolar?

i believe that, there is some pathological element within this president, and some of his fanatical followers.

Ah, where did you get your Psychiatry degree?

 

[washamericom]

i am reveling in the deliciousness of liberal hypocrisy

 

[washamericom]

In their infinite wisdom, removing Gadafi from power is not a military objective for the US. Early in the month Obama clearly stated that was what he wanted. Is the President bipolar?

i believe that, there is some pathological element within this president, and some of his fanatical followers.

Ah, where did you get your Psychiatry degree?

johns hopkins

 

[Liberty]

i am reveling in the deliciousness of liberal hypocrisy

 

[NYcarbineer]

Letting a dictator kill his people at his insane whim is not going to be good for anyone in the world.

If Gadafi is allowed to bomb his own people until only his cronies are left what do you think that says to the rest of the countries on the brink of revolution for democracy?

You people just hate anything this president does no matter what it is.

This is a UN action and not a declared war.

Indeed.........so by that standard, Muslim radicals should have no problem with it!!!


Hey.....do lefties excel in moral equivilence horseshit or what??!!!!!!!!!






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Indeed son........its a failure to be able to recognize categorical realities in political terms.[/QUOTE]

Do you support this action in Libya or not?

 

[NYcarbineer]

This is another example of liberals having the principles of a small soap dish.............

The political poop is..........Obama stands to lose ZERO on the left here but will gain support from independents so its a political win-win. The left should be rejoicing this am..........

Are the Republicans going to run a candidate who wouldn't support this kind of interventionism?

Will we be given a choice?

 

[LibocalypseNow]

No and don't expect it to happen either. I have always said the so-called 'Anti-War Leftists' are by far the biggest frauds in America. They don't hate War. They just hate Republicans/Conservatives. They're just like most Americans. It all comes down to which letter they have in front of their names. In this case it's a 'D' so Leftists will be silent on this one for sure. Now if the guy in there had an 'R' by his name? We would be seeing a completely different reaction from them. It is sad but it is what it is.

 

[washamericom]

No and don't expect it to happen either. I have always said the so-called 'Anti-War Leftists' are by far the biggest frauds in America. They don't hate War. They just hate Republicans/Conservatives. They're just like most Americans. It all comes down to which letter they have in front of their names. In this case it's a 'D' so Leftists will be silent on this one for sure. Now if the guy in there had an 'R' by his name? We would be seeing a completely different reaction from them. It is sad but it is what it is.

truly, then why would someone choose D, so they can tax and spend, and be hypocritcal about military actions.??

 

[bodecea]

i believe that, there is some pathological element within this president, and some of his fanatical followers.

Ah, where did you get your Psychiatry degree?

johns hopkins

Cool...what year? And where did you hang your shingle?

 

[HUGGY]

^^^

This Thread Rocks!!!!

the spin is making me dizzy.

How can you tell?

 

[LibocalypseNow]

No and don't expect it to happen either. I have always said the so-called 'Anti-War Leftists' are by far the biggest frauds in America. They don't hate War. They just hate Republicans/Conservatives. They're just like most Americans. It all comes down to which letter they have in front of their names. In this case it's a 'D' so Leftists will be silent on this one for sure. Now if the guy in there had an 'R' by his name? We would be seeing a completely different reaction from them. It is sad but it is what it is.

truly, then why would someone choose D, so they can tax and spend, and be hypocritcal about military actions.??

I make it a point to never ever trust the Left on anything. If the guy in there now had an 'R' by his name,they would be feigning outrage 24/7. Just look at all the D's on this board right now. Look at all the sleazy cheerleading they're doing. They're not opposed to bombing & killing. They're just opposed to Republicans/Conservatives. It really is that simple in the end.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

And where are all those pious "No War for Oil" peeps? Do they really think bombing Libya isn't about Oil? Where did all those people go? Hmm?

 

[Greenbeard]

No and don't expect it to happen either. I have always said the so-called 'Anti-War Leftists' are by far the biggest frauds in America. They don't hate War.

Who are you referring to? This thread is about "the left" but the actual pacifist wing of "the left" that reflexively opposes all military action is rather small.

I would guess that most of the "the left" shares the view articulated by Obama himself in his 2002 speech:

I don’t oppose all wars.

After September 11th, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears, I supported this Administration’s pledge to hunt down and root out those who would slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself to prevent such a tragedy from happening again.

I don’t oppose all wars. And I know that in this crowd today, there is no shortage of patriots, or of patriotism. What I am opposed to is a dumb war.​

Lots of folks on the left supported the war in Afghanistan at its inception despite the fact that, yes, the President at the time had an R next to his name.

The political universe doesn't conform to your paint-by-numbers understanding of it.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Just saw a loony Leftist on TV claiming Gaddafi had to be stopped because he was much worse than Saddam Hussein. Say Whaa? The Left/Democrats are in full Cheerlead/Justification Mode for sure. It's actually very pathetic.