So if the globe isn't warming..why are you calling it global warming?

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We hear it all the time...global warming this...global warming that...global warming is leading to a catastrophe....we hear it so much that even skeptics take it as a given that the earth is getting warmer...we dispute the causes, but skeptics tend to accept that it is getting some bit warmer even if it is undefinable because the temperature record has become so corrupted.

But what if the globe isn't getting warmer? What if you have to look damned hard to find anywhere that is getting warmer? What if this whole big global warming scam, is even bigger than anyone thought and at best, there may be some local warming.

There were more than 60 peer reviewed papers published in 2016 that showed that whatever warming we have seen, it is certainly not unprecedented as warmers would have us all believe, or even that noteworthy in the larger scheme of things...

By the end of January, there had already been 17 papers published showing the same thing

Here are 31 papers recently published that demonstrate that not only is climate science far from settled, the claim that the globe is warming isn't settled...these papers cover most of the globe and show that at some time in the past 100 years or so, most places have seen some warming at some time, but hardly anything that could be called global...especially at the present time

Another interesting note is that the papers that go back far enough, show a pretty distinct fingerprint of the Minoan, Roman, and Medieval warming periods once more demonstrating that those warm periods were both warmer than the present and global in nature.

So gnash your teeth on this warmers...and explain how, if the globe is warming, the misnomer "global warming" is justified.

http://www.the-cryosphere.net/11/343/2017/tc-11-343-2017.pdf

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http://www.clim-past-discuss.net/cp-2017-26/cp-2017-26.pdf

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Two centuries temperature variations over subtropical southeast China inferred from Pinus taiwanensis Hayata tree-ring width

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SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class journal research

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High sensitivity of North Iceland (Tröllaskagi) debris-free glaciers to climatic change from the ‘Little Ice Age’ to the present (PDF Download Available)

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http://www.clim-past.net/13/93/2017/cp-13-93-2017.pdf

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http://cms.unige.ch/sciences/terre/news/articles/Guillet_etal_NGEO_2017.pdf

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http://www.clim-past.net/13/1/2017/cp-13-1-2017.pdf

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https://www.researchgate.net/public..._Siderastrea_siderea_from_the_Florida_Straits

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http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277379116305479

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https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00382-016-3478-8

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http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031018216303054

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http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277379116304802

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http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027737911630381X

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CONTINUED......
 
CONTINUATION....


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SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class journal research


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Changes in temperature and water depth of a small mountain lake during the past 3000 years in Central Kamchatka reflected by a chironomid record

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http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v10/n3/full/ngeo2891.html

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SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class journal research

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Temperature variations since 1750 CE inferred from an alpine lake in the southeastern margin of the Tibetan Plateau

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https://www.researchgate.net/public...enland_from_the_first_regional_diatom_dataset

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Quantitative reconstruction of temperature at a Jōmon site in the Incipient Jōmon Period in northern Japan and its implications for the production of early pottery and stone arrowheads

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Climate variability in the past ∼19,000 yr in NE Tibetan Plateau inferred from biomarker and stable isotope records of Lake Donggi Cona

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https://www.researchgate.net/public...nce_from_the_mid-_to_outer_Great_Barrier_Reef

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Holocene hydrological and sea surface temperature changes in the northern coast of the South China Sea

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Oscillations in the Indian summer monsoon during the Holocene inferred from a stable isotope record from pyrogenic carbon from Lake Chenghai, southwest China

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https://www.researchgate.net/public...mental_change_for_southern_Pacific_Costa_Rica

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Solar and tropical ocean forcing of late-Holocene climate change in coastal East Asia

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Just for fun, here are a few more...



http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277379116306217


http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0959683616683255


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031018217300500


https://www.researchgate.net/public...olocene_and_its_sensitivity_to_climate_change
 
I'm not concerned about the planet; it will continue to evolve as it always has. And if humanity behaves as a pathogen, the antidote will come. Humankind could become extinct or undergo a catastrophic population bottle neck, who knows, but corporate power and wealth has expended vast resources and effort into muddying up the conversation and science. The creator does not pay heed to the childish attention span or sense of time humanity is tied to perceptually, and the planet does not need human beings ... for anything.
 
So if the globe isn't warming..why are you calling it global warming?......

So, if your brain isn't working..why are you even posting?

Oh, SSoooDDumb, you are the king of crazy, crackpot, totally meaningless questions!

In the real world where "the globe IS warming" and temperatures are rising rapidly.....

2016temperature.png


(source: NASA)
 
So if the globe isn't warming..why are you calling it global warming?......

So, if your brain isn't working..why are you even posting?

Oh, SSoooDDumb, you are the king of crazy, crackpot, totally meaningless questions!

In the real world where "the globe IS warming" and temperatures are rising rapidly.....

2016temperature.png


(source: NASA)
Posting up Karl Et Al BS again?
 
So if the globe isn't warming..why are you calling it global warming?......

So, if your brain isn't working..why are you even posting?

Oh, SSoooDDumb, you are the king of crazy, crackpot, totally meaningless questions!

In the real world where "the globe IS warming" and temperatures are rising rapidly.....

2016temperature.png


(source: NASA)
Posting up Karl Et Al BS again?
Denying sound science for crackpot ideological reasons again? (rhetorical question....of course you are, boober!)
 
I've never seen a dataset showing that the earth isn't warming...

Why do people on the internet that haven't ever touched a ground station or looked through raw data think they know more then every institution on this planet? It is sick.
 
So if the globe isn't warming..why are you calling it global warming?......

So, if your brain isn't working..why are you even posting?

Oh, SSoooDDumb, you are the king of crazy, crackpot, totally meaningless questions!

In the real world where "the globe IS warming" and temperatures are rising rapidly.....

2016temperature.png


(source: NASA)



Translation?


The OP is pwning the religion, of which Im a member.......Im angry and miserable because I am losing so Im forced to call him a retard!!:2up::bye1::bye1:
 
So if the globe isn't warming..why are you calling it global warming?......

So, if your brain isn't working..why are you even posting?

Oh, SSoooDDumb, you are the king of crazy, crackpot, totally meaningless questions!

In the real world where "the globe IS warming" and temperatures are rising rapidly.....

2016temperature.png


(source: NASA)

NASA...kings of data manipulation...all fake all the time...and the sad thing is that you believe them.
 
I've never seen a dataset showing that the earth isn't warming...

Why do people on the internet that haven't ever touched a ground station or looked through raw data think they know more then every institution on this planet? It is sick.
Funny thing...you people claim the globe is warming, but when you actually look at most places on earth..they aren't warming...that should set off warming bells in your mind regarding the global data set.....that is, IF you aren't a brain dead dupe who believes based on nothing more than your political leanings.
 
So is that your position now? There is no warming.

Matthew, it was the obvious conclusion. Once they believed they'd gotten away with accusing mainstream science of manipulating the data - which in their own echo chamber they certainly had - the only thing was to take the unavoidable next step. Why should the world's scientists embark on a global conspiracy just to make things a little worse.when the same conspiracy could give them everything.
 
CONTINUATION....

How many of these are proxies? All of them?

Of course not...but then you can't make heads nor tails of a graph can you...look at the time line on the graph...as you can see, many of them are modern in nature...sorry your global warming bullshit is falling apart before your eyes...must be distressing when it is actually your religion.
 
So is that your position now? There is no warming.

Matthew, it was the obvious conclusion. Once they believed they'd gotten away with accusing mainstream science of manipulating the data - which in their own echo chamber they certainly had - the only thing was to take the unavoidable next step. Why should the world's scientists embark on a global conspiracy just to make things a little worse.when the same conspiracy could give them everything.

My position is based on the facts...when the facts change sufficiently to support the claim, my position changes along with them....I accepted that the globe had warmed some amount in the past 100 years, but when one looks at individual locations around the globe and doesn't see warming, while the global data set does...and knowing that large sections of the globe in the global data set are simply made up via infilling, and that the warmest places on earth according to the data set are the very places with the least instrumental coverage, what should a thinking person believe? Certainly not the same thing glassy eyed chanters believe...that's for sure.

Simply amazing that you can look at paper after paper calling the global data set into question and all you can see is reinforcement of your beliefs...that is the mark of a true zealot...everything reinforces your faith...
 
So is that your position now? There is no warming.

Matthew, it was the obvious conclusion. Once they believed they'd gotten away with accusing mainstream science of manipulating the data - which in their own echo chamber they certainly had - the only thing was to take the unavoidable next step. Why should the world's scientists embark on a global conspiracy just to make things a little worse.when the same conspiracy could give them everything.

My position is based on the facts...

The FACTS?!?!?!!!! HAHAHAHAAAAaaaa. give me a FUCKING BREAK!

when the facts change sufficiently to support the claim, my position changes along with them....

When you stop getting the mileage and trolling response your outrageous bullshit got once upon a time - and opportunity arises - you're going to take that opportunity. It's not as if you were getting anywhere before. The number of people that realize deniers are ignorant fools has risen and is approaching unanimity in the general population. Among anyone with an education, that was the state long ago. You needed something to rouse the troops. Now you've got it. Someone compiles a list of all the proxies and all the isolated regions on the planet whose temperatures aren't going through the roof, puts them in a list and CAN YOU SAY HALLELUJAH!

I accepted that the globe had warmed some amount in the past 100 years, but when one looks at individual locations around the globe and doesn't see warming, while the global data set does...and knowing that large sections of the globe in the global data set are simply made up via infilling, and that the warmest places on earth according to the data set are the very places with the least instrumental coverage, what should a thinking person believe? Certainly not the same thing glassy eyed chanters believe...that's for sure.

You've become "practiced at deception". You're getting better and better at lying. Now there's a goal we should all strive for, right Shit?

Simply amazing that you can look at paper after paper calling the global data set into question and all you can see is reinforcement of your beliefs...that is the mark of a true zealot...everything reinforces your faith...

More fantasy. I think you might be coming to believe the first steps of your fantasy. You are one lost fucking soul dude.

I have always wondered why the denier-set, after several years of wailing and gnashing their teeth over the malicious manipulation of the data, didn't simply produce a set of "unmanipulated data". There are only a couple of things that could possibly be stopping you:

1) It's hard work
2) Your results would be trivial - it would take a keen eye to see the difference.
3) No one would accept your work except deniers and they already buy your story as it's the only one in town.
4) Your results would show that the planet was warming at a dangerous and accelerating rate

Can you think of any other possibility?

And then along comes this collections of cool spots and you think all is saved. I think perhaps denier' biggest failing is to have somehow convince themselves that in the end they will have accomplished anything.
 
The FACTS?!?!?!!!! HAHAHAHAAAAaaaa. give me a FUCKING BREAK!


That's right..the facts. A concept you would not be aquatinted with being a member in good standing of the glassy eyed chanting cult.


You've become "practiced at deception". You're getting better and better at lying. Now there's a goal we should all strive for, right Shit?

Sorry crick.. that's you projecting...you are one of the biggest liars here and as such, you simply assume that since you are such a big liar, everyone else must be big liars as well.
 
There are people that have nothing better to do than spending all their time trying to get a waitress fired, fault an establishment for not having transgender toilets and provoking normal people to solicit a response while their thumb is ready on the cellphone to call 911.
"Crick" the "ocean engineer" is one of them. No matter what time you look at the USMB it looks like this:
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The only ocean he "engineers" is an ocean of piss & hatred like the page long rant in the windmill thread I posted yesterday. As if I care what a deranged idiot like that has to say about me.
Now that social misfits like him no longer have the ability to use the DOJ to shut down a business like Alaska Airlines as this bitch would have , a forum like the USMB is one of the few outlets they can continue. Just like this bitch on that airliner would like to get anyone else punished. ...
What really gets under their skin is what happened instead, like how the whole plane load of passengers cheered when she got kicked out:

Oh yeah, Life is good, really good after the democrats got hammered !
 
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I can't think of any facts with which I've ever been aquatinted. But you are getting better at lying. You know it, I know it and everyone who read your last piece knows it.
 

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