Dear
Richard-H She is more experienced but relied on a system that censors and excludes
the interests and representation of the rightwing opponents instead of fulfilling and defending
public duty to equally protect all interests of all citizens regardless of belief, creed or political affiliation.
Trump has shown willingness to go after both parties, without the bias the Democrats have
to push their own beliefs and creeds so far as to penalize opponents due to opposing beliefs.
Trump is more willing to respect peers and input from both parties,
even aligning with LGBT and Latinos and Blacks not on race or agenda but on
Constitutional principles and solutions that work for all people not just one party's agenda.
How has she excluded the interests of rightwing opponents? Since when have the GOP given a damn about what the liberals want? The right wing has control of congress which, due to gerry-rigging, gives them hugely disproportionate representation.
Right wingers seem to think that anything less than a pure right tyranny amount to persecution.
Dear
Richard-H Yes I hear you and agree with you that strong armed exclusive right wing rhetoric
has also brought this backlash onto themselves. But two wrong don't make it right, they just make hypocrites of the left.
The difference with rightwing is when they ARE rebuked using Constitutional limits, they comply!
When "right tto prayer" is reduced to "moment of silence" to accommodate nonbelievers, that is passed.
but try reducing "right to marriage" to civil unions to be secular, and you get the same attacks
and harassment that the left is trying to criminalize or penalize when this is the reaction against LGBT beliefs.
So they send the wrong message that their LGBT beliefs should be endorsed by govt but not Christian beliefs, when BOTH are equally creeds and should be treated the same.
the prolife have also had to back down because of prochoice secular standards.
But when it comes to right to health care, the free market free choice people don't get the same protection
from the beliefs of others being rammed through govt.
So it's onesided, the right will respond to Constitutional checks as Cruz was trying to push
and both Cruz and Ryan pushback on Trump when he threatens to color outside the lines of the Cosntitution.
But the Democrats don't respect these lines. They will push whatever agenda gets passed
until and unless they are forced otherwise by law; they will not listen to half the nation saying
no we have other beliefs and don't believe the same way. The Democrats have proved
they don't respect Constitutional limits on law but only the vote counts even if they
are voting for biased policies with faith based arguments tantamount to religious beliefs imposed through govt.
First, you assertion that secular and Christian beliefs should both be treated the same is nonsense. Are you familiar with the words:
"We the people...do ordain"
This is a RESOUNDING refutation of religion in government. God does not ordain our Government. It is ordained thru the dignity of the people.
The pro-Life people are NOT interested in making abortion illegal. They only want to gain political capital by pretending to champion this cause. I've presented them with a scientific approach to proving the abortion should be illegal, but they are not interested. (i.e. if the DNA of the fetus is unique from that of the Mother, then the fetus is an individual and must therefore be protected under the Constitution).
Free market health care has been how healthcare has been run for all time up until 2008. It has been a resounding failure. A total disaster for hundreds of millions of people. Democrats having been trying to get a national healthcare program since Teddy Roosevelt was President. So don't tell me that liberals always get there way and conservatives are ignored. Conservatives have gotten their way for over a hundred years on this one. Even now the current health Care system is a conservative designed system...first implemented by Romney, and endorsed by G.W. Bush. It was a mistake for Obama to try to appease Conservatives with this system. He should have pushed for the public option, a single payer, or extending medicare for everyone.
You seem to think that every time conservatives do not have absolute dictatorial power, it means that they are persecuted. It's nonsense.
Dear
Richard-H
You are only saying that where people AGREE to the secular beliefs. Where "we ordain" represents public consensus, sure it works, and that's what laws should be, by mutual informed consent as a lawful contract.
With right to bear arms people DO NOT agree to each other's interpretations being imposed against their own beliefs. We agree to keep some form of the Second Amendment. But reject where our beliefs diverge and aren't public consensus.
So it's because we the people AGREE to certain laws we enforce those without conflict. "We ordain" works where all people agree but fails where you ordain something violating equal rights or beliefs of others as with slavery.
And where we DISAGREE by our beliefs, NEITHER Side
Wants the other belief imposed on them!
TAKE right to life, another political belief.
We AGREE murder is wrong so we keep those laws. But we do NOT agree on the interpretation that human life and will should be policed at conception. That is a faith based argument and not all ppl agree.
Well, so is belief that homosexuality is natural or LGBT is either not a choice or it is a behavior and is. Those are both faith based, and not all ppl agree! It's not fair or equal to let one person's beliefs dominate just because they are expressed secularly; it's the content and impact of that belief on the equal beliefs of others that causes the infraction and neither should be endorsed by govt to infringe on each other's beliefs, regardless how such beliefs are expressed. Consent is the common factor, and neither side wants to be coerced by govt on areas of belief which are subjective and faith based.
All ppl I know want their Creed and Beliefs not to be discriminated against by law. So that level, we CAN agree on.
I'm asking to stick to language where we AGREE to respect creeds and beliefs equally, and keep "faith based" biases out of law whether this is expressed as a religious belief or political one.
Do you understand the distinguishing factor is consent?
If people Consent to a secular belief, it is that Consent that gives weight and authority of law.
It's NOT that it's secular that it's okay, but Consent is the determining factor in cases of conflicting Beliefs whether these are religious political or secular.
JUSTICE is also a faith based belief, but if we AGREE on this value then we use that language.
Being secular is not enough to protect people against govt abuse to impose beliefs and faith based bias;
Consent is the standard to tell if people agree on "faith based" policies involving beliefs. Not just if the wording is "secular" or not. Even "secular" laws on abortion impose beliefs that are rejected by people who do not consent.
Secular language helps to be more inclusive and to define common ground. But the beliefs involved are the issue, and the language can't impose a bias in belief one way or another or its still discriminating against people of dissenting beliefs with equal rights to represent and defend those interests