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So it's OK to bring back things like slavery if enough people vote for it?
It's impossible to protect the rights of any minority group in a mob rule government
I don't listen to the radioSo it's OK to bring back things like slavery if enough people vote for it?
It's impossible to protect the rights of any minority group in a mob rule government
If we had 50% supporting slavery we'd have bigger problems... We didn't even have 50% support of slavery when slavery was a thing.
Look, I get it, when you have lots of unpopular positions spoon fed to you by hate radio, the last thing you want is people voting on them after we've had a national discussion.
Much easier to get special interests to bully politicians into submission or bribe them.
I don't listen to the radio
The act is it is impossible to protect the rights of any minority group when a government is run by mob rule.
Which is why truly democratic governments do not exist. The best compromise is a democratic republic like we have now. As bad as it is there isn't a better choice.
I don't listen to the radio
The act is it is impossible to protect the rights of any minority group when a government is run by mob rule.
Which is why truly democratic governments do not exist. The best compromise is a democratic republic like we have now. As bad as it is there isn't a better choice.
Sorry, when 70% of us want common sense gun control, and we can't get it because the National Rampage Association bullies Congress into submission, that's just fucked up.
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Don't lie
You don't want common sense gun control you want to get rid of all privately owned guns.
ANd tell me which of our federal gun laws are not common sense?
The only lack of common sense is that we do not enforce the laws we already have
And THERE IT IS.could ban guns tomorrow and be a lot better off for it. But baby steps
Don't lie
You don't want common sense gun control you want to get rid of all privately owned guns.
ANd tell me which of our federal gun laws are not common sense?
The only lack of common sense is that we do not enforce the laws we already have
There's what I want... and what is possible.
We could ban guns tomorrow and be a lot better off for it. But baby steps. Let's have meaningful background checks... Waiting periods to conduct them. Don't sell battlefield grade weapons to civilians.
Red flag laws... let's not wait until AFTER a mass shooting to do something about that crazy guy you know is planning something.
And THERE IT IS.
Everything else is "baby steps" towards the ultamite goal. The HITLER solution. The Venezuela solution. The Pol Pot solution.
Here we go again
A semiautomatic rifle is not "battlefield grade"
Red flag laws are nothing but an end run around due process.
You might not like it but you actually need evidence before you deny a person of his rights.
And it's funny how you never say we should enforce the laws we already have to see if they really work
Fuck face, over the counter ARs are not military grade. ARs cannot pass military muster.Here we go again
A semiautomatic rifle is not "battlefield grade"
AR-15 and the M16 are the same weapon, except one can't fire full auto.
Yes, it's a battefield weapon. So is the AK that was used in El Paso.
Red flag laws are nothing but an end run around due process.
You might not like it but you actually need evidence before you deny a person of his rights.
Gun ownership isn't a right... and taking them out of the hands of nuts is just common sense.
And it's funny how you never say we should enforce the laws we already have to see if they really work
We already know they are inadequate by design, thanks to the NRA.
Again, REST OF THE WORLD HAS ALREADY FIGURED THIS OUT!
America is like the class retard that keeps saying, "2+2= Cat"
Fuck face, over the counter ARs are not military grade. ARs cannot pass military muster.
They do not have m-4 ramps, They do not have an adequate gas chamber, Certainly not the barrels for it, And like you said they do not have select fire. You cannot “just make” an AR fully auto, The machine work alone is impossible for amateurs to perform.
You need to get out of your mothers basement and educate your self on the subject. Internet warrior
more than 2/3 of those people kill themselvesAnd THERE IT IS.
Everything else is "baby steps" towards the ultamite goal. The HITLER solution. The Venezuela solution. The Pol Pot solution.
Ho-hum... your side is killing 33,000 of us a year with your fetish.
Here we go again
A semiautomatic rifle is not "battlefield grade"
AR-15 and the M16 are the same weapon, except one can't fire full auto.
Yes, it's a battefield weapon. So is the AK that was used in El Paso.
Red flag laws are nothing but an end run around due process.
You might not like it but you actually need evidence before you deny a person of his rights.
Gun ownership isn't a right... and taking them out of the hands of nuts is just common sense.
And it's funny how you never say we should enforce the laws we already have to see if they really work
We already know they are inadequate by design, thanks to the NRA.
Again, REST OF THE WORLD HAS ALREADY FIGURED THIS OUT!
America is like the class retard that keeps saying, "2+2= Cat"
more than 2/3 of those people kill themselves
A person has the right to decide whether he lives or dies.
you have a 99.997% chance of not being murdered by a person with a gun in any one year
If that's not safe enough for you then you are the one that is paranoid and afraid
more than 2/3 of those people kill themselves
A person has the right to decide whether he lives or dies.
No, they really don't. We lock suicidal people up.
you have a 99.997% chance of not being murdered by a person with a gun in any one year
If that's not safe enough for you then you are the one that is paranoid and afraid
So I guess we can declare the War on Terror at an end, since you are even MORE unlikely to be killed by a terrorist.
Hey, let's get all those cops enforcing traffic off the road, since you are fairly unlikely to die in a car accident.
Look, buddy, I realize you are a gun nut, but the rest of us are sick and tired of living with your fetish.
Fuck face, over the counter ARs are not military grade. ARs cannot pass military muster.
They do not have m-4 ramps, They do not have an adequate gas chamber, Certainly not the barrels for it, And like you said they do not have select fire. You cannot “just make” an AR fully auto, The machine work alone is impossible for amateurs to perform.
https://www.quora.com/Legality-aside-how-hard-is-it-to-convert-an-AR15-to-fully-automatic
Legality aside, not hard at all. You need to drill an additional hole for the full auto sear and mill out the fire control pocket a little more to accept a full-auto fire control group.
The full auto fire M4 or M16 control groups, M16 bolt carrier and compatible full auto buffers are readily available. Legal to purchase without paperwork with an attestation on your part you are complying with all NFA rules. Which you aren’t.
You need to get out of your mothers basement and educate your self on the subject. Internet warrior
Was in the Army and National Guard for 11 years... how about you?
So 8chan was shut down by Big Tech Bullies, the real kind of bullies that decide whther your opinion is to be tolerated or not.
8chan did not make the cut, but is a good thing that some people have this power to decide who is ore is not worthy of Freedom of Speech? Is the NRA next?
A defiant 8chan vowed to fight on, saying its “heartbeat is strong.” Then a tech firm knocked it offline
Abandoned by its key partner Cloudflare for its “lawlessness” in the wake of the El Paso mass shooting, 8chan briefly disappeared from the Web early Monday before reappearing with the help of a sympathetic ally: BitMitigate, whose cybersecurity services also helped keep the neo-Nazi site Daily Stormer online after Cloudflare dropped it in 2017.But who watches the watchers?
But by Monday afternoon, both 8chan and the Daily Stormer plunged into darkness when Voxility, a tech firm that has leased servers to BitMitigate, announced that it would no longer provide those services. The site for Vancouver-based BitMitigate was also dropped offline.
It’s “totally against our policy,” Maria Sirbu, a Voxility executive, told The Washington Post. “As soon as we were notified ... we proceeded with (completely) removing" the company from their network.
She said Voxility was making a “firm stand” and urged that many other Internet authorities should take more action in “keeping the Internet a safer place.”
Shortly after noon, Ron Watkins, 8chan’s administrator, said that the site was down and that it looked like its content-delivery network, provided by BitMitigate, was “under attack.” Minutes later, he said that BitMitigate had instead been “deplatformed for hosting 8chan.”
The war drew attention to the role played by the Internet’s hidden infrastructure in deciding what ideas and content can circulate online. Most of the key players in Monday’s fight are unknown to consumers, but they run some of the critical elements supporting the modern Web.
BitMitigate is owned by another company, Epik, a firm based outside Redmond, Wash., that bought the service earlier this year. Epik, a hosting and domain-name firm that gained notoriety after backing the far-right site Gab, has loudly criticized what it calls “digital censorship” and “organized efforts to de-platform and incapacitate practitioners of lawful free speech.”
Epik chief Rob Monster wrote Monday that the company had not solicited 8chan’s business but was now helping manage some of the site’s technical needs and was further evaluating whether to offer it other services, including a defense against cyberattacks."We enter into a slippery slope when we start to limit speech that makes us uncomfortable," Monster wrote.
The services provided by Cloudflare and BitMitigate form a key element of the Internet’s hidden backbone, helping sites boost their speed and stay online. They also help guard against vigilante strikes such as distributed denial of service, or DDoS, attacks, in which hackers flood a site with traffic to knock it offline.
For 8chan, a site that has attracted no small number of online enemies through its years of promoting racist, sexist and offensive content, those services have helped ensure its survival. The site is largely independent from the other advertising, hosting and technical giants that help form the infrastructure of other websites, and who can sometimes exert pressure on objectionable clients.
BitMitigate’s rules offer wide leniency to its clients: “We leave law enforcement to the experts and will not stop service to any of our clients unless by final court order,” the company says in its terms of service. The site has held itself up as a bastion of free-speech protections for sites too objectionable for others to support. BitMitigate is a “non-discriminatory” provider of “bulletproof DDoS protection with a proven commitment to liberty,” the company says on its Twitter account.
But online data show that BitMitigate has only a fraction of the server capacity of Cloudflare. Its dependence on renting from providers such as Voxility to help stay afloat, tech experts said, makes it vulnerable to pushback from other companies that may disagree with its indirect support of extremist speech.
Any private business like 8Chan, Facebook, Twitter, et al has the legal right to permit or to bar any speech or expression it wishes. However, what is a legal right isn't necessarily ethically right.
Are they publishers, with the freedom-of-the-press right to curate their content however they want, or platform providers with the responsibility to allow anyone their free-speech-rights?
Suppression of speech some -- in particular, the federal government -- may consider hateful or incitement is precisely the speech the 1st amendment was intended to protect.
