SNAP bans on soda, candy and other foods take effect in five states Jan. 1- Thanks RFK!

[SweetTea]

MAGA in a nutshell. **** everybody that isn't me.

Again, just common sense. Have you ever heard the expression don’t look at gift horse in the mouth? The left in the US not only does that, they complain that the horse should be a car instead.

 

[SweetTea]

Damn Poor people! How dare they enjoy unhealthy things!

They can enjoy them, just not our our dime.

What’s next, we start providing cars and Democrats start to complain that they aren’t sporty enough? How about putting subsidized housing on the nice side of town because it isn’t “fair” that poor people can’t live in the same neighborhood as the rich people?(that is already happening).

 

[SweetTea]

So let's punish poor people for being poor.

We are not punishing poor people, we are just not providing them with the benefits of being rich. “Here is your free food. No, we aren’t not going to provide you with filet mignon and lobster every night just because some people are able to afford it. “

Deep down, in your perfect world, you want everyone to have the same income with no room for upward or downward mobility, which is why you have no problem with Socialism.

 

[SweetTea]

Oh poor, poor snowflake. Afraid of the mean, mean trans people.

How did you glean that I am afraid of trans people from my statement?

The purpose of a passport is to provide identifying information. Should I be able to claim that I am 6’11” instead of 5’11” just because I feel taller? If I don’t agree that a person should be able to do that, would that make me afraid of tall people?

 

[SweetTea]

Keep in mind, we are heading into a recession,

Um, no we are not.

 

[eagle1462010]

Oh poor, poor snowflake. Afraid of the mean, mean trans people.

You either got a pecker or you dont.

Are you confused too?

 

[JoeB131]

They can enjoy them, just not our our dime.

What’s next, we start providing cars and Democrats start to complain that they aren’t sporty enough? How about putting subsidized housing on the nice side of town because it isn’t “fair” that poor people can’t live in the same neighborhood as the rich people?(that is already happening).

And that's turning out fine. Section 8 is a vast improvement over projects.

We are not punishing poor people, we are just not providing them with the benefits of being rich. “Here is your free food. No, we aren’t not going to provide you with filet mignon and lobster every night just because some people are able to afford it. “

Except no one is talking about Filet Minon and Lobster (which would quickly exhaust their monthly allotment). We are talking about some crank who got put in charge of health care because he kissed Trump's butt, and is making arbitrary rules as to what poor people can have.

Deep down, in your perfect world, you want everyone to have the same income with no room for upward or downward mobility, which is why you have no problem with Socialism.

Deep down, I know that wealth inequality almost always ends with the poor lining up the rich for the guillotine or the firing squad.

There is no "mobility". Not anymore.

Tracking the decline of social mobility in the U.S. — and how to reverse the trend

In the first lecture of a new series of lectures hosted by President Maurie McInnis, economist Raj Chetty outlined the path toward improving economic mobility.

news.yale.edu

 

[SweetTea]

And that's turning out fine. Section 8 is a vast improvement over projects.

A vast improvement for those previously in projects, but not so much for those living near Section 8 housing. Notice that these still aren’t located in very wealthy Democrat neighborhoods.

Except no one is talking about Filet Minon and Lobster (which would quickly exhaust their monthly allotment). We are talking about some crank who got put in charge of health care because he kissed Trump's butt, and is making arbitrary rules as to what poor people can have.

They aren’t arbitrary. What if we we had government run grocery stores in which that those receiving SNAP could shop. If we didn’t provide Oreo’s and soda in those stores and instead only staples, like milk, bread, meat, etc. would that be evil or just common sense?

Again, don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.

There is no "mobility". Not anymore.

Patently false.

 

[j-mac]

And that's turning out fine. Section 8 is a vast improvement over projects.

I remember when Baltimore took down their high rise Sec 8 housing, in order to build modern town home communities with what would be considered small lawns in front of every unit, with a common area in the middle of rows of pretty nice housing....Within 6 months of opening for occupancy, and filled, the place was stripped of grass, some units boarded up and graffitied, and a definite no go zone unless armed, and in numbers after dark. According to you, that's just fine.

Except no one is talking about Filet Minon and Lobster (which would quickly exhaust their monthly allotment). We are talking about some crank who got put in charge of health care because he kissed Trump's butt, and is making arbitrary rules as to what poor people can have.

When you rely on someone else to provide for you, they have a say.

Deep down, I know that wealth inequality almost always ends with the poor lining up the rich for the guillotine or the firing squad.

There is no "mobility". Not anymore.

Priceless, you believe that a revolution is going to start based on not being able to get a bag of Ruffles, some onion dip, and Coca Cola to wash it down?

We can call it the 'fatty uprising of 2026'

 

[Nostra]

I think we need to mark every poor person with a tattoo on their forehead, so that we know they are poor.

****, why don't you just overturn the 13th Amendment and bring back slavery.

Both Dimwinger dreams.

 

[SweetSue92]

Yeah, great points.

It's my guess that our processed food problem is FAR more a function of convenience than cost. That's where cultural changes would have to happen, and that would include just being more physically active.

There is at least some redeeming qualities in a burger. Not so in candy and soda

 

[j-mac]

There is at least some redeeming qualities in a burger. Not so in candy and soda

Wait a minute, did Mac1958 just say that using EBT to buy Soda and Chips was a "cultural" thing?

Of all the racist tropes....Gheeze.

 

[j-mac]

Both Dimwinger dreams.

There's some real "Nazi" imagery going on with Joes post there...I guess we see the mind of the true 'Nazi's' there....

 

[Mac-7]

This brought me to the conclusion that America's obesity problem isn't one of bad choices, but one driven by economics. The poorer you are the less you can spend on healthy foods.

I would say that poorer people tend to be the dumbest and most likely to make bad choices on food and practically everything else

 

[Lesh]

Yes,.but surely parents know apples and bananas are a better option than chips but they will buy chips often. It is a complicated wubject involving uneducated parents, costs, convenience even addiction as junk food is known to appease someone’s anxiety etc.

What does a big bag of chips cost? How many apples can you buy for that price?

Will those chips go bad? Apples will

 

[j-mac]

I would say that poorer people tend to be the dumbest and most likely to make bad choices on food and practically everything else

I can see where fork is coming from in that statement. When the wife and I were what I would call poor, young, and with infant children, It was a struggle to afford meals to put on the table, and as a result many nights Hot dogs, and Mac and cheese were the de jour of the night....Not the best, but something in the belly...

Where I part with him is that a family of 4, generally speaking would receive around $1,000 per month in round numbers...that is a good amount to get some healthy food in there...

 

[j-mac]

What does a big bag of chips cost? How many apples can you buy for that price?

Bag of Lay's chips about $4. Bag of apples, (10 to 12) $4-$5...

Will those chips go bad? Apples will

So, eat the damn apples....

 

[JoeB131]

A vast improvement for those previously in projects, but not so much for those living near Section 8 housing. Notice that these still aren’t located in very wealthy Democrat neighborhoods.

sure they are. OH, they aren't on the Gold Coast, but they are in well-off neighborhoods.

They aren’t arbitrary. What if we we had government run grocery stores in which that those receiving SNAP could shop. If we didn’t provide Oreo’s and soda in those stores and instead only staples, like milk, bread, meat, etc. would that be evil or just common sense?

Nope, it would be evil because you want to stigmatize the poor.

I remember when food stamps were replaced by EBT Cards, and a lot of you wingnuts were upset that it took away the shame of using food stamps. (Even though it did reduce fraud.)

Patently false.

You might have a point. The middle class has been in decline since Ronnie Reagan.

I remember when Baltimore took down their high rise Sec 8 housing, in order to build modern town home communities with what would be considered small lawns in front of every unit, with a common area in the middle of rows of pretty nice housing....Within 6 months of opening for occupancy, and filled, the place was stripped of grass, some units boarded up and graffitied, and a definite no go zone unless armed, and in numbers after dark. According to you, that's just fine.

That sounds like the fault of the landlords. Section 8 just lets poor people rent properties.

Now, when I lived in a former condo complex, after Bush crashed the Housing market, a lot of the units were bought up by investment companies because owners walked away from their underwater mortgages.

And yes, some of them found the path of least resistance was to rent to section 8 families and leave it at that.

But it was still their job to upkeep the property, not the renters.

Priceless, you believe that a revolution is going to start based on not being able to get a bag of Ruffles, some onion dip, and Coca Cola to wash it down?

I think it will start when the 60% who control less than 4% of the wealth realize that this system doesn't work for them.

 

[j-mac]

That sounds like the fault of the landlords. Section 8 just lets poor people rent properties.

So, no accountability for those living there and destroying it immediately eh?

Now, when I lived in a former condo complex, after Bush crashed the Housing market, a lot of the units were bought up by investment companies because owners walked away from their underwater mortgages.

And yes, some of them found the path of least resistance was to rent to section 8 families and leave it at that.

Nah, don't leave at anything...What are you saying about Sec 8 families? Maybe they

Don't care about the properties they have no stake in?

Full of criminals, and drug abusers?

Funny how you'll be quick to find fault with those spending millions to bring something nice to poor people, but have zero accountability for the poor that trash it....

But it was still their job to upkeep the property, not the renters.

It makes a difference when maintenance goes in and is driven out by gang threats.

I think it will start when the 60% who control less than 4% of the wealth realize that this system doesn't work for them.

Then they're doing it wrong.

 

[JoeB131]

Nah, don't leave at anything...What are you saying about Sec 8 families? Maybe they

Don't care about the properties they have no stake in?

That's the truth about any renters, really. They have no stake in the property values. I was a landlord from 1987-2000 and again from 2022 to 2023

If something breaks, they call me to fix it, because that's my job. if these rental properties are declining under Section 8, it's because the landlords are shitty.

In fact, the Section 8 Program requires inspects before a property can be put on Section 8 eligibility. It's why some slumlords don't even bother.

So, no accountability for those living there and destroying it immediately eh?

Well, first, I only have your word for it, which is dubious at best.
Secondly, it's the landlord's responsibility to maintain the property.

It makes a difference when maintenance goes in and is driven out by gang threats.

Why would they do that?

"eek, I saw a scary brown person" might be how you operate, but not most service people.

Then they're doing it wrong.

I agree. Too many working white poor vote for Republicans who don't give a shit about them. They play on their racial, religious, and sexual fears.

"Hey, what happened to the Middle Class union jobs my grandpa had?"

"Never mind that, there's a a Goddless Mexican Tranny trying to pee in your bathroom!!!"