Smoking

[MaryL]

50 years ago, smoking was great. Healthy, good for the lungs and digestion. It was GOOD. Or the AMA said so. Despite popular consensus. Flash forward to today. Nobody wants this shit but all of sudden 5% of th populace is GOOD dictating what WE want against our will, because THEY say so. All .006 of them get al this gravitas. Remind me how that happened?

 

[MaryL]

Who could that be? Gays and Trans are like a tiny 5% of the American populace. They are NOT being persecuted or harmed. NOPE. George Soros funds this tiny tinsy weirdness and we are supposed to care? Why?

 

[MaryL]

When it comes to smoking, both my sister in law, mother and father died from lung cancer. addiction kills. Addiction kills? George Floyd death of hypoxia induced by A) corona, B) Heart disease C) the HUGE amount of fentanyl in his system D) white racist cop touched his neck.

 

[Woodznutz]

While I smoked I was often sick.
After I quit I was rarely sick.

 

[Mr Natural]

It can be a very expensive habit these days.

 

[Woodznutz]

It can be a very expensive habit these days.

Elmendorf Air Force Base, Anchorage, Alaska.
1963, enroute to Korea.
Bought a pack of Lucky Strikes from PX vending machine.
Cost: 11 cents. (No State or Fed taxes on military bases.)
Cost elsewhere: 25 cents.

 

[Mr Natural]

Elmendorf Air Force Base, Anchorage, Alaska.
1963, enroute to Korea.
Bought a pack of Lucky Strikes from PX vending machine.
Cost: 11 cents. (No Fed taxes on military bases.)
Cost elsewhere: 25 cents.

I remember them being $2.00 a carton. The joke was that if you didn't smoke, you were losing money. This would have been around 1970.

 

[Woodznutz]

I remember them being $2.00 a carton. The joke was that if you didn't smoke, you were losing money. This would have been around 1970.

As soon as the tobacco companies discovered that the smoking "habit" was actually an addiction they had to raise their prices to cover the cost of lawsuits.

 

[Woodznutz]

I have to say that despite the health issues I suffered I really enjoyed smoking. Quitting wasn't easy but I knew I had to if I wanted to obtain good health. I view it now as another foolish 'rite of passage' of my youth.

 

[Blues Man]

If an adult wants to smoke it's no one's business.

I hear about states banning menthol cigarettes and certain e cigarette flavors with the lame excuse that it will stop kids from smoking and/or vaping.

But no one ever says that it's the people who sell to minors that should be punished for their illegal sales and instead want to say no one can use these products.

 

[Woodznutz]

If an adult wants to smoke it's no one's business.

When they get sick it becomes everyone's business.

 

[Blues Man]

When they get sick it becomes everyone's business.

No it doesn't.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

Anyone see my lighter?

 

[Moonglow]

I grow my own to live in toking heaven.

 

[Woodznutz]

No it doesn't.

You don't think such behaviors affect your health insurance costs?

 

[Blues Man]

You don't think such behaviors affect your health insurance costs?

People who smoke pay on average 15-20% higher premiums than nonsmokers.

People who smoke also die earlier

 

[Woodznutz]

People who smoke pay on average 15-20% higher premiums than nonsmokers.

For individual plans, yes. I'm in a group plan and was never asked if I smoke. Also the increased premium for smokers is not applied in all states.

 

[Blues Man]

For individual plans, yes. I'm in a group plan and was never asked if I smoke. Also the increased premium for smokers is not applied in all states.

Doesn't matter.

You can't tell anyone not to smoke, drink etc.

You can always opt out of your group plan if you think smokers are costing you too much. But you won't because your group plan still costs you less AND I'll bet your employer picks up part of the tab

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Poverty is the subtotal of a life of poor decision making.
Which is why most smokers live in poverty.

 

[Woodznutz]

Doesn't matter.

You can't tell anyone not to smoke, drink etc.

You can always opt out of your group plan if you think smokers are costing you too much. But you won't because your group plan still costs you less AND I'll bet your employer picks up part of the tab

No one in my company smokes.

My employer pays the entire premium for everyone.