Smallville seasons one through four the best.

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I mentioned how the last episode FINALLY got realistic with clark walking away from pete putting the basketball down and walking inside his house telling him he did not want to shoot hoops with him for the day after he asked him to. the realism extended into THIS episode as well at the beginning. In the first five or 10 minutes of the show we see pete come up to clark and say something on the lines of-clark i know your mad at me still and were not on the best of speaking terms now. well done, there have been so many others in the past where its all wrapped at the end of that episode and all forgotten about and everything is hunky dory and forgotten about where they should go after realism and have Lana and chloe mad at clark for at LEAST another episode as they did with this one.i cant say well done enough times here the fact this is the first time they EVER got it right.

Yeah Alicias obsession with clark indeed looks deadly alright,reminds you a lot of fatal attraction the same result at the end where BOTH michael douglass and his wife both almost got killed by her cause she could not get what she wanted,same here, both clark and Lana both almost got killed by her. boy that was scary when she pulled out the kreptonite and made clark weak.

actually it was FATAL ATTRACTION not Basic Instinct where Alicia went Glenn Close on Lana and clark.hate to say it but chole hit the nail on the head there.

adam is as crazy as alicia is it turns out,i always knew there was something not right about him,he just always had a scary look about him.the guy is a stalker same as her recruited by Lionel to try and find out what clarks secret is which finally puts to rest that Lionel knew clarks secret when he was faking being blind the fact he hired Adam to TRY and find out clarks secret,something he would not be doing obviously if he knew.

yeah that was quite a shock to see that Lionel orchestrated adam hooking up with Lana,we once again see how evil he is the fact he is going to let him die now.

didnt that give you a great laugh for the day when Alicia transported into clarks room and they got half naked and john and martha walked in and he sees his dad first so he says out loud-dad!


did that ever happen to you and YOUR sons?

had it just been YOU and your husband was on vacation what would YOU have said to your son?


also,if this show was just coming out now right this moment and you were in your younger days and had CHILDREN, would you allow the to watch this one? how old would you tell them they have to be before they can view it? LOL

Yes, the Pete thing was left hanging. We all want friendships to last. I think it works out later on. Now the Chloe biatch never stops.

Yes of course, it was fatal attraction. Both Lana and Clark got homicidal partners on the same episode.

The writers probably knew their audience didn’t have kids watching it. Teens know a lot more than I do now! It was a major shock to see him respond. If it had been Lana he would have been shy.

That is a teen series, 15 or 16 years old at the least. There is too much death/attempted death to expose children to that.

 

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yeah its strange that adam has still been kept alive after he failed with his mission to learn more about who clark kent is through Lana. Yeah that helicopter scene was indeed exciting.

we get to see how fast clark can really run the fac it only takes seconds for a person to fall down and yet clark zooms in and out within seconds before he hits the ground.

It was nice seeing clark get scared when the kid said he was going to use his fathers organ to save his brother.

it was touching how John was reluctant to go ahead with the operation till clark told him how he important to him he is as a father.very touching moment between the two great actors.

The whole time I wondered if his doctor would try to remove an organ. The kid carrying kryptonite explosives just added to the intensity. I tell ya, some episodes are sheer movie action. I think my favorite so far is the high rise one where Clark, his mom, and even his dad show heroic qualities. The music and action were superb.

But then the whole Lionel killing his parents thing is dragged from episode to episode. I feel a finale coming on.

 

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S3 e16

We are dabbling with future events. Lex wanting in on the projects makes us wonder if he had nefarious plans too. The police investigating the lab murders present him evidence that Lionel was trying to implicate him in the entire lab fiasco.

This is like Back to the Future with big sports games aligning with time lapses. Intriguing and right up my alley.

Then the second whammy. Lionel has a liver disease. So does he want to bring his liver back to normal or is he planning to resurrect his body after death? He wants the lab up and running in a week. His time is closing in.

Adam is loose and the episode now becomes a nail biter. Adam has already murdered so many and we now know just what he is capable of. The fear factor is upped. John should’ve been more in tune with what was happening with Chloe in the truck.

This was a wow moment! Lex wants to turn his father in. Has he had enough?

Lana is questioning Clark’s speed in getting there and admits calling the hotline for her hero to save her. Adam now dead, gives Lana a moment of reflection. She will no longer fear because she knows she can control her future.

Do you know what opera song that was? It must be one on oncoming death or finality.

He is too much of a coward to shoot himself. If he does Lex will save him to bring him to justice.

 

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Yes, the Pete thing was left hanging. We all want friendships to last. I think it works out later on. Now the Chloe biatch never stops.

Yes of course, it was fatal attraction. Both Lana and Clark got homicidal partners on the same episode.

The writers probably knew their audience didn’t have kids watching it. Teens know a lot more than I do now! It was a major shock to see him respond. If it had been Lana he would have been shy.

That is a teen series, 15 or 16 years old at the least. There is too much death/attempted death to expose children to that.

No surprise to hear that from you.I have seen people discuss this episode who were children when the show came out and they had to wait a few years before they were allowed to watch it.

here is something i hope will give you a great laugh for the day.I imagine YOU in your younger days with your husband gone on vacation and you opening up your sons room seeing him doing that and saying out loud to you-MOM. I am guessing sense i have NEVER seen YOU swear inthe past on the boards you wouldnt have sweared at him but you would have done some serious yelling and told the gilr to get the hell outof dodge out of this house am i right? i VIVIDLY have that picture of you in my mind Elusivebutterfly comedy gold.

 

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The whole time I wondered if his doctor would try to remove an organ. The kid carrying kryptonite explosives just added to the intensity. I tell ya, some episodes are sheer movie action. I think my favorite so far is the high rise one where Clark, his mom, and even his dad show heroic qualities. The music and action were superb.

But then the whole Lionel killing his parents thing is dragged from episode to episode. I feel a finale coming on.

I did not realise you liked the die hard episode the best even better than the pilot? No surprise though,its my favorite of that season.

 

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S3 e16

We are dabbling with future events. Lex wanting in on the projects makes us wonder if he had nefarious plans too. The police investigating the lab murders present him evidence that Lionel was trying to implicate him in the entire lab fiasco.


Then the second whammy. Lionel has a liver disease. So does he want to bring his liver back to normal or is he planning to resurrect his body after death? He wants the lab up and running in a week. His time is closing in.

Adam is loose and the episode now becomes a nail biter. Adam has already murdered so many and we now know just what he is capable of. The fear factor is upped. John should’ve been more in tune with what was happening with Chloe in the truck.

This was a wow moment! Lex wants to turn his father in. Has he had enough?

Lana is questioning Clark’s speed in getting there and admits calling the hotline for her hero to save her. Adam now dead, gives Lana a moment of reflection. She will no longer fear because she knows she can control her future.

Do you know what opera song that was? It must be one on oncoming death or finality.

He is too much of a coward to shoot himself. If he does Lex will save him to bring him to justice.

yeah we know Lex so yeah with Lex it does make you wonder if he had nefarious plans indeed. Yeah in this season,season 3,we are finding out more and more in each episode how truly evil Lionel really is.

Poor Lex,because of his upbringing being raised by Lionel,he doesnt know right from wrong,hense his investigation into clark so he NEVER had a chance to go straight once he became an adult,he was destined to be sadly from day one,he was going to be evil same as his father,he never had a chance to be a good person because of the circumstances brought on him being raised,just like george bush jr never had a chance to be a good person in the future either because of his upbringing,because of the people he was raised and surrounded by,like father like son,he was destined to be an evil man as well same as Lionel and Lex.

This was a wow moment! Lex wants to turn his father in. Has he had enough?

very true. yeah this episode was for sure,indeed a nail biter no doubt about that.

Yeah that was a wow moment indeed Lex wanting to turn in his father.Good for Lex, who in their right mind wouldnt when he tried to pin those murders on his own son? That was brilliant of Lex to see through Lionels trap game he was setting up for Lex.

He figured Lex would want the power to run the company so much he would take the job and he could blame the murders on Lex but Lex resisting the need for power,saw through his fathers schemes and refused the offer saying something on the lines of -I am not suiting up in the 11th hour so i can take the fall for you dad,,clean up your own mess. well done Lex,well done.

good thing Adam is gone,the guy was one scary psycho weirdo.I knew from day one he was bad news.Thank god for Lana she no longer has to worry about someone trying to kill her anymore.

clark now knows that Lionel is after him,that he is as much in danger from Lionel as Adam was from him,this gets very exciting.

No dont know what opera song that is.

Man the producers of this show knew EXACTLY what they were doing in how they asked Lana to wear her hair in the show and what kin of clothes to always wear.


I have said in the past how that plastic thing "FORGIVE ME I DONT KNOW THE NAME OF IT." that she wears on top of her head ENHANCES her beauty she already has,gewn stacy wore the same thing in the spiderman comics and it also enhanced HER beauty as well. well the purple and white swaeter they had her wear ALSO enhanced her beauty and made me enjoy looking at her even more so than normal.

 

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something else i forgot to mention earlier is that Tom welling was one of those parents that would not allow his children to watch that episode with that girl in his room.

 

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No surprise to hear that from you.I have seen people discuss this episode who were children when the show came out and they had to wait a few years before they were allowed to watch it.

here is something i hope will give you a great laugh for the day.I imagine YOU in your younger days with your husband gone on vacation and you opening up your sons room seeing him doing that and saying out loud to you-MOM. I am guessing sense i have NEVER seen YOU swear inthe past on the boards you wouldnt have sweared at him but you would have done some serious yelling and told the gilr to get the hell outof dodge out of this house am i right? i VIVIDLY have that picture of you in my mind Elusivebutterfly comedy gold.

Ever seen the “the thing” scene where the alien grows spider legs and scatters away? That look they give it. I think they said “you’ve got to be shitting me.”

My grown son had his own home but brought his cute blonde girl to his old bedroom cause he didn’t want her to know where he lived. She runs out the door that morning and that’s the look I gave her and the thought that came to mind.

 

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S3 e17

Lionel is saved by the call. Lex wants to throw everyone off Clark’s trail.

They are destroying the farm looking for something but John had it.

Oh, it looks like John’s time is near too. He is talking to Jo rel about it. He goes on to his father’s grave to voice regrets, regrets he doesn’t want Clark to have.

Clark kisses Lana and wants her for life but she rejects him. Time for him to move on. Then she cries on lex’s shoulders. He gives his Lex advice. lol

Clark confronts Lex, but we find it wasn’t his men that ransacked the farm. It was Lionel’s. Lex tells Clark he was attempting to bring justice on Lionel’s murders.

That was a great fight. Clarke should’ve let John do it! lol

So the key is in the hands of the mad scientist in a wheelchair. lol is Jo rel trying
to tell John it’s time to let Clark go. Was Lana cutting ties with Clark at the end coincide with what happens next. Is Lana moving on?

 

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yeah we know Lex so yeah with Lex it does make you wonder if he had nefarious plans indeed. Yeah in this season,season 3,we are finding out more and more in each episode how truly evil Lionel really is.

Poor Lex,because of his upbringing being raised by Lionel,he doesnt know right from wrong,hense his investigation into clark so he NEVER had a chance to go straight once he became an adult,he was destined to be sadly from day one,he was going to be evil same as his father,he never had a chance to be a good person because of the circumstances brought on him being raised,just like george bush jr never had a chance to be a good person in the future either because of his upbringing,because of the people he was raised and surrounded by,like father like son,he was destined to be an evil man as well same as Lionel and Lex.

This was a wow moment! Lex wants to turn his father in. Has he had enough?

very true. yeah this episode was for sure,indeed a nail biter no doubt about that.

Yeah that was a wow moment indeed Lex wanting to turn in his father.Good for Lex, who in their right mind wouldnt when he tried to pin those murders on his own son? That was brilliant of Lex to see through Lionels trap game he was setting up for Lex.

He figured Lex would want the power to run the company so much he would take the job and he could blame the murders on Lex but Lex resisting the need for power,saw through his fathers schemes and refused the offer saying something on the lines of -I am not suiting up in the 11th hour so i can take the fall for you dad,,clean up your own mess. well done Lex,well done.

good thing Adam is gone,the guy was one scary psycho weirdo.I knew from day one he was bad news.Thank god for Lana she no longer has to worry about someone trying to kill her anymore.

clark now knows that Lionel is after him,that he is as much in danger from Lionel as Adam was from him,this gets very exciting.

No dont know what opera song that is.

Man the producers of this show knew EXACTLY what they were doing in how they asked Lana to wear her hair in the show and what kin of clothes to always wear.


I have said in the past how that plastic thing "FORGIVE ME I DONT KNOW THE NAME OF IT." that she wears on top of her head ENHANCES her beauty she already has,gewn stacy wore the same thing in the spiderman comics and it also enhanced HER beauty as well. well the purple and white swaeter they had her wear ALSO enhanced her beauty and made me enjoy looking at her even more so than normal.

Are you talking about a hair band she is wearing. I thought she looked the worst in this episode. They had been dressing her in pink clothes and in a pink two piece. 3 episodes in a row.

Yes, by turning his father in, he can keep from becoming his father. Lionel was more of a monster than I ever thought he would be. Georgie bush was the description of weak that Lionel described before.

Yeah those fraudulent papers brought reality to lex’s eyes.

 

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Ever seen the “the thing” scene where the alien grows spider legs and scatters away? That look they give it. I think they said “you’ve got to be shitting me.”

My grown son had his own home but brought his cute blonde girl to his old bedroom cause he didn’t want her to know where he lived. She runs out the door that morning and that’s the look I gave her and the thought that came to mind.

thats as close of the story i wish you had that you walk in and he says MOM!

thats the next best thing and whats funny is THIS one is real.

 

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Are you talking about a hair band she is wearing. I thought she looked the worst in this episode. They had been dressing her in pink clothes and in a pink two piece. 3 episodes in a row.

Yes, by turning his father in, he can keep from becoming his father. Lionel was more of a monster than I ever thought he would be. Georgie bush was the description of weak that Lionel described before.

Yeah those fraudulent papers brought reality to lex’s eyes.

thats what she usually looks like with yeah that hairband on her.as i said,i really liked that purple and white sweater.something different than the pink that they always go overboard on.Like you said, 3 episodes in a row is too much.

My parents were bible thumping parents so even though i wanted to do that at home with my girlfriends after i got out of high school "I GOT OVER MY SHYNESS WHEN I GOT OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND FINALLY STARTED GETTING GIRLFRIENDS." i was still living at home in my 20's so IF i did have them over to watch a movie,i made SURE they stayed a distance from me and never even kissed,did not want to take the chance of them walking in, anytime i DID kiss and get it on like clark was,i did in the car AWAY from home or at her house.
man if i ever did that and got caught like clark did, sense i was living at home under their rules,I would have ben told i could only use the car to go to and from work,thats it,nothing else. they would never put up with that and be patient with me as clarks parents were,hell would freeeze over first.

 

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thats what she usually looks like with yeah that hairband on her.as i said,i really liked that purple and white sweater.something different than the pink that they always go overboard on.Like you said, 3 episodes in a row is too much.

My parents were bible thumping parents so even though i wanted to do that at home with my girlfriends after i got out of high school "I GOT OVER MY SHYNESS WHEN I GOT OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND FINALLY STARTED GETTING GIRLFRIENDS." i was still living at home in my 20's so IF i did have them over to watch a movie,i made SURE they stayed a distance from me and never even kissed,did not want to take the chance of them walking in, anytime i DID kiss and get it on like clark was,i did in the car AWAY from home or at her house.
man if i ever did that and got caught like clark did, sense i was living at home under their rules,I would have ben told i could only use the car to go to and from work,thats it,nothing else. they would never put up with that and be patient with me as clarks parents were,hell would freeeze over first.

Oh, that’s funny. 20 without hand reflex to pull her close. Someday we might have a Time Machine and see the sweat coming down your forehead.

Speaking of, I have started wondering about Clark procreating. Does he think about it. Is it in the comic?

 

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i mentioned earlier that the die hard episode was my favorite one from season two,I know the pilot episode is your favorite from season one,whats your next favorite after that for season one?

 

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S3 e17

Lionel is saved by the call. Lex wants to throw everyone off Clark’s trail.

They are destroying the farm looking for something but John had it.

Oh, it looks like John’s time is near too. He is talking to Jo rel about it. He goes on to his father’s grave to voice regrets, regrets he doesn’t want Clark to have.

Clark kisses Lana and wants her for life but she rejects him. Time for him to move on. Then she cries on lex’s shoulders. He gives his Lex advice. lol

Clark confronts Lex, but we find it wasn’t his men that ransacked the farm. It was Lionel’s. Lex tells Clark he was attempting to bring justice on Lionel’s murders.

That was a great fight. Clarke should’ve let John do it! lol

So the key is in the hands of the mad scientist in a wheelchair. lol is Jo rel trying
to tell John it’s time to let Clark go. Was Lana cutting ties with Clark at the end coincide with what happens next. Is Lana moving on?

Made you wonder what on earth John was talking about when he called clark kalel didnt it?

Isnt this the episode i was talking to you about before that happened later this season where after clark tells john he is a good father john admits he was arse of a father when he kicked clark when he was down after trying to apologize to him for what happened to his mom losing the baby isnt this the one where clark says to him-your a good father and john then replies and says-yeah im that father,im that father that drove you off to metropolis,my father never would have done that.i wish i had his strength." this is that episode right?

cant blame Lana for rejecting him,she knows clark is vulnerable now and he is just reaching out for compassion at the moment,she knows they got to move on.

No no matter how evil a person is we cant stoop to their level and kill someone. John would have done everything he had always preached to clark to never do.he would have crossed the line and sold his sole the fact it was not self defense.too many witnesses would have seen it.clark was VERY smart to stop him.not the right moment in front of all the witnesess that were working for Lionel.

yeah that was maybe the most exciting fight scene in the entire SERIES!!

Yeah Lana it looks like she knows its over with clark and its time to move on. yeah that made no sense how the mad scientist got the key,wish they would explain that.

you know that the season two parter premiere is my favorite episode of season 3,this one is my second favorite of season 3 and is for sure a top ten favorite of all time.


that was brilliant how we got to see john in action as a farmer driving the tracter and we get to see the scenery of kansas,great music mixed in with it totally makes that moment.very well directed epeisode with a very good director.

so do you agree with me that the season primer two parter is the best one of season 3 and this is your second favorite as well?

 

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i mentioned earlier that the die hard episode was my favorite one from season two,I know the pilot episode is your favorite from season one,whats your next favorite after that for season one?

In order so far.

1. Die hard
2. Pilot meteorite
3. Jo rel with Lana’s aunt—so romantic

Made you wonder what on earth John was talking about when he called clark kalel didnt it?

Isnt this the episode i was talking to you about before that happened later this season where after clark tells john he is a good father john admits he was arse of a father when he kicked clark when he was down after trying to apologize to him for what happened to his mom losing the baby isnt this the one where clark says to him-your a good father and john then replies and says-yeah im that father,im that father that drove you off to metropolis,my father never would have done that.i wish i had his strength." this is that episode right?

cant blame Lana for rejecting him,she knows clark is vulnerable now and he is just reaching out for compassion at the moment,she knows they got to move on.

No no matter how evil a person is we cant stoop to their level and kill someone. John would have done everything he had always preached to clark to never do.he would have crossed the line and sold his sole the fact it was not self defense.too many witnesses would have seen it.clark was VERY smart to stop him.not the right moment in front of all the witnesess that were working for Lionel.

yeah that was maybe the most exciting fight scene in the entire SERIES!!

Yeah Lana it looks like she knows its over with clark and its time to move on. yeah that made no sense how the mad scientist got the key,wish they would explain that.

you know that the season two parter premiere is my favorite episode of season 3,this one is my second favorite of season 3 and is for sure a top ten favorite of all time.


that was brilliant how we got to see john in action as a farmer driving the tracter and we get to see the scenery of kansas,great music mixed in with it totally makes that moment.very well directed epeisode with a very good director.

so do you agree with me that the season primer two parter is the best one of season 3 and this is your second favorite as well?

Yes I remembered you told me about John’s admission. I felt it didn’t need to be said, but that’s just me.

Wheelchair guy is just too mysterious. I can’t make out what role he will play. Argh.. I usually can.

I’m not familiar with Kansas but it looks like gorgeous country. Life on a farm can never compare to city life. I respect those people. Clark was taught to earn an honest day’s wages. But he got to cheat with his powers. lol. No fair.

 

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S3 e18



Chloe is stirring up trouble again and nearly got herself killed. Lex is being blamed for keeping her father from securing a job. All Lionel, I know.

So Chloe has the power to coax people to tell the truth. I was shocked that Martha quickly succumbed. Chloe needs to ask John what the messages are all about. Will Clark ask her? Lex certainly wants her to get an admission from his dad.

Chloe is quickly finding out how people feel about her starting with Lana’s distrust (like the rest of the school) and how much Pete loves her. She is totally clueless with illusions of grandeur. She feels she is the hero over smallville.

Lex admits he just wants his father’s love. When he finally realizes he never will, I think he is going to have a blowup.

Btw, Clark has been wearing a lot of red and blue lately. Is he steadily evolving into Superman?

Ouch. That was a huge injection. And she knows he gave her that dose. Where are all the questions? 0 ..That’s not like her.

How can Clark forgive Chloe for all she’s done?

 

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In order so far.

1. Die hard
2. Pilot meteorite
3. Jo rel with Lana’s aunt—so romantic

Really? I thought for sure the season premiere was your favorite as well? I know the pilot episode was your favorite of season one but whats your SECOND fave for season ONE and do you rank this one or the season premiere for your second favorite of season 3 so far?

Yes I remembered you told me about John’s admission. I felt it didn’t need to be said, but that’s just me.

Wheelchair guy is just too mysterious. I can’t make out what role he will play. Argh.. I usually can.

I’m not familiar with Kansas but it looks like gorgeous country. Life on a farm can never compare to city life. I respect those people. Clark was taught to earn an honest day’s wages. But he got to cheat with his powers. lol. No fair.

I pretty much figured it out that you were not familiar with Kansas and the way i knew that was everybody who lives in kansas as i do who watched this show,we always spot it out that this show was Definetely NOT filmed in kansas and was filmed in canada as they say because anybody that lives in kansas will tell you there are no mountains in kansas which you see quite often in this show and i never saw you point that out. anytime i have someone local here watch the show for the first time,they ALWAYS pick that up and they tell me that they can tell it was not filmed in kansas the fact in many of the espisodes,you see MOUNTAINS in the background.

other than that goof though,get rid of that goof and as a kansan,I would say they have done an EXCELLENT job of giving you the feel the setting takes place in kansas.

 

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S3e19

Lex’s consciousness is breaking through. He is experiencing repressed feelings from childhood trauma. Now we find that he killed his brother and I wonder if that is why Lionel hates him. Perhaps living with self hatred and his dad’s judgmental glare and now the awareness of it will plunge him into the vast abyss of self destruction.

But will he seek to destroy others as well. He didn’t get love from his mother nor his dad. The baby was his last hope and that vanished.

Clark’s concern lands him in another Lionel scheme and now he becomes the guinea pig.

Oh that was intense. How did Clark not die from that?

Oh shit, the mom killed Julian.

That moment between Lex and Lionel was excellent acting. Outstanding finale to Lionel’s hatred. Lex can now move on.

Ooh and another tender moment with Clark and Martha.

Ok, this episode made me want to cry.

 

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Really? I thought for sure the season premiere was your favorite as well? I know the pilot episode was your favorite of season one but whats your SECOND fave for season ONE and do you rank this one or the season premiere for your second favorite of season 3 so far?


I pretty much figured it out that you were not familiar with Kansas and the way i knew that was everybody who lives in kansas as i do who watched this show,we always spot it out that this show was Definetely NOT filmed in kansas and was filmed in canada as they say because anybody that lives in kansas will tell you there are no mountains in kansas which you see quite often in this show and i never saw you point that out. anytime i have someone local here watch the show for the first time,they ALWAYS pick that up and they tell me that they can tell it was not filmed in kansas the fact in many of the espisodes,you see MOUNTAINS in the background.

other than that goof though,get rid of that goof and as a kansan,I would say they have done an EXCELLENT job of giving you the feel the setting takes place in kansas.

Well I wasn’t familiar with Canada either. I never noticed the mountains. See this tx girl knows that mountain range that spans past midland to west tx. That’s a spectacular view.

Episode 2 was great but I think this last episode was my favorite second of s3. Relic, the Jo rel love story is first.