Skins: "The Most Dangerous Show on Television"

[xotoxi]

No. This is not faux outrage bones. And as much as we'd like to think that parents have control over what their teens are watching on TV and the internet, it's simply not the case. Most kids have TVs and computers in their bedrooms. May not be a great idea, but it's just the way it is.

1.2 million teens watched that show the first night. It's bad.

And the worst part about it is that of those 1.2 million teens, 98% of them had never had sex, smoked, drank, or did drugs.

Now they ALL will.

A generation lost...

 

[Zoom-boing]

How does spitting out a couple of kids give you the latitude to decide what can and can't come across my television?

I guess being a parent suddenly gives you some wisdom as soon as the kid is born that the rest of us don't have. Maybe they have some special decoder rings too?

Not even remotely. It takes time and experience for parents to (hopefully) become good parents. Here's the thing . . . all the 'firsts' that the firstborn experiences -- walking, talking, preschool, first grade, puberty, driving, etc. -- it's also a 'first' for the parents. All of it is. And all the books and advice in the world cannot take the place of the experience of actual parenting. The last thing parenting is, is a cake walk.

Not wisdom.

But definitely perspective.

In the case of this thread, a skewed one it seems.

A.) If you can't control what your kid watches on television, it's going to be a mighty big problem when they start going out at night.

B.) The assumption here is that the kids will watch the show and suddenly engage in sex, drugs, and rock and or roll. Seriously, can't sit down with the kid and treat them like an adult? EZ's kid seems to have a strong head on her shoulders, as do millions of other teenagers.

You don't think peer pressure and outside influences affect them? You're dead wrong on that. Hopefully the guidelines/rules/morals they've been taught will be what they rely on but . . . that just simply isn't always the case.

Since when did 13, 14, 15, 16 = adult? Yeah, there will be kids who watch this show and emulate it. You're foolish if you don't believe that.

This is like saying after I watch Goodfellas, I'm gonna go out there and try to become a gangster. Ridiculous rhetoric best left to ridiculous people.

You might not but others might. Was Goodfellas directly aimed at 15 year olds?

Why don't you have a kid and then decide if you want your 14 year old daughter watching it.... Maybe you can throw Debbie Does Dallas in the DVD player for her.

Spoiler Alert: If I had a kid, would they probably be watching this? Probably not. Why? Because in the first place, they wouldn't probably enjoy any show on MTV.

My youngest will be 14 (8th grade) and her best friend is 13 (7th grade). Her friend is allowed to watch Jersey Shore. What makes you think she wouldn't be interested in Skins? She slept over the other week and wanted her dad to bring over a movie they could watch. The movie was 'Easy A'. In a nutshell it's a movie about kids having sex in order to be popular. wtf? Why would any parent let their 12/13 year old watch that? You're wrong about the younger kids not wanting to watch stuff like this. Didn't you ever watch Barney or Kidsongs or see Barbie commercials? The kids are just a few years older than the target market; the younger ones want to be like the 'big kids'.

Secondly, if they did, it's called parental responsibility if you think the kid shouldn't watch it. This means being responsible for one's own kids, not trying to be essentially the parent for every other kid by saying what should and what should not be censored.

Absolutely agree. But when is enough, enough? Are there no limits, no boundaries?

Thirdly, I see the assumption continued that if a kid watched a movie that is rated R or PG-13 that they're suddenly going to become crazy sex addicts, huge drug users, or perhaps crazy serial killers. It's ridiculous.

You're stating extremes, which are likely not to happen. But to influence them to try sex or try drugs or try hurting someone? This show is specifically targeted/aimed at teens, who are not 'young adults'. There is a huge difference between 15 and 19.

Fun Fact: When Elvis first appeared on television, he was not allowed to be shot from the waist down. There were plenty of parents then too saying he was the reason for the moral decay of society and that he should be removed from television.

Right and eventually Elvis got a pass and . . . look where we are now? Discussing teenage sex and drug use being openly shown on tv. My, my how far we've come.

At what point do you (general you) draw the line? If it all just comes down to 'turn off the tv', why not just show hard-core porn? I mean it's the parents problem, right? You have no idea at all how hard it is to keep this crap out. None. You make it sound like 'just turn off the tv' and that's it, problem solved.

 

[xotoxi]

Do you think a 12 year-old, who is spending the night at a friend's house, who happens to have a TV in her room, has enough experience to separate what is "cool" from what is responsible.

You'd let your 12-year-old spend the night at someone else's house???

That's where the problem lies...bad parenting.

 

[MarcATL]

If the Free Market has decided its OK for this show to exist, which clearly it has, its not up to anyone BUT the parent to be PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for their own child(ren's) TV watching habits.

If it means blocking that channel or not paying for cable at all...that's what it takes.

Pull yourselves up by your own bootstraps and take some PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY, we don't need no stinkin Big Government telling us what to and what not to watch!

RWers...who do you want to shut this program down? WHO?

Well...?

 

[xotoxi]

If the Free Market has decided its OK for this show to exist, which clearly it has, its not up to anyone BUT the parent to be PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for their own child(ren's) TV watching habits.

If it means blocking that channel or not paying for cable at all...that's what it takes.

Pull yourselves up by your own bootstraps and take some PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY, we don't need no stinkin Big Government telling us what to and what not to watch!

RWers...who do you want to shut this program down? WHO?

Well...?

After they get this show cancelled, maybe they can work on eliminating junk food from the school cafeterias.

 

[Zoom-boing]

If the Free Market has decided its OK for this show to exist, which clearly it has, its not up to anyone BUT the parent to be PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for their own child(ren's) TV watching habits.

If it means blocking that channel or not paying for cable at all...that's what it takes.

Pull yourselves up by your own bootstraps and take some PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY, we don't need no stinkin Big Government telling us what to and what not to watch!

RWers...who do you want to shut this program down? WHO?

Well...?

I do block this shit and I'd be fine if the plug got pulled on this show. At what point does a line get drawn?

 

[xotoxi]

If the Free Market has decided its OK for this show to exist, which clearly it has, its not up to anyone BUT the parent to be PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for their own child(ren's) TV watching habits.

If it means blocking that channel or not paying for cable at all...that's what it takes.

Pull yourselves up by your own bootstraps and take some PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY, we don't need no stinkin Big Government telling us what to and what not to watch!

RWers...who do you want to shut this program down? WHO?

Well...?

I do block this shit and I'd be fine if the plug got pulled on this show. At what point does a line get drawn?

The free market will determine that.

 

[High_Gravity]

In 2050 porn will be shown on MTV during the daytime.

 

[BrianH]

Why don't you have a kid and then decide if you want your 14 year old daughter watching it.... Maybe you can throw Debbie Does Dallas in the DVD player for her.

Spoiler Alert: If I had a kid, would they probably be watching this? Probably not. Why? Because in the first place, they wouldn't probably enjoy any show on MTV.

Secondly, if they did, it's called parental responsibility if you think the kid shouldn't watch it. This means being responsible for one's own kids, not trying to be essentially the parent for every other kid by saying what should and what should not be censored.

Thirdly, I see the assumption continued that if a kid watched a movie that is rated R or PG-13 that they're suddenly going to become crazy sex addicts, huge drug users, or perhaps crazy serial killers. It's ridiculous.

A 14 year old wouldn't want to watch MTV???? LOL...you're half-retarded and naive dude. Why does MTV have shows like "My Super Sweet 16" and "16 and Pregnant" among others....? You think you can keep your kid from watching this crap just by turning the TV off??? lol. We live in an age where any kid can watch this shit on their cell phones or on the computer. You can google tity and get pictures of them. What you're suggesting is that a parent pretty much control every aspect of the kids life...censoring what they watch, what they listen to, what they do, etc....something you would probably call an "overbearing" parent. You would have to keep your kid in a glass bubble to keep them away from this filth. Which is why it outrages people that television stations would show this. The film industry uses the same bullshit explanation every time. That it's up to the parents to control what their kids watch knowing good and well that parents can't stop their kids from watching this; short of getting rid of your TV and not allowing them to have a cell-phone.

As far as your last statement, no one is suggesting that the kids will turn into the EXTREME of everything you see. You're giving extreme examples just to make your argument. First things first,: 1. Showing a 14 year-old having sex on TV is called child pornography....it's the law. 2. A 14 year-old seeing a show like this could give them ideas or cause them to be curious about the events taking place...especially since the show glorifies it and makes it look fun.

 

[Zoom-boing]

If the Free Market has decided its OK for this show to exist, which clearly it has, its not up to anyone BUT the parent to be PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for their own child(ren's) TV watching habits.

If it means blocking that channel or not paying for cable at all...that's what it takes.

Pull yourselves up by your own bootstraps and take some PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY, we don't need no stinkin Big Government telling us what to and what not to watch!

RWers...who do you want to shut this program down? WHO?

Well...?

After they get this show cancelled, maybe they can work on eliminating junk food from the school cafeterias.

Appleton WI, cast study on education and the student behavioral modification from changing to an adequate lunch program

 

[BrianH]

If the Free Market has decided its OK for this show to exist, which clearly it has, its not up to anyone BUT the parent to be PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for their own child(ren's) TV watching habits.

If it means blocking that channel or not paying for cable at all...that's what it takes.

Pull yourselves up by your own bootstraps and take some PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY, we don't need no stinkin Big Government telling us what to and what not to watch!

RWers...who do you want to shut this program down? WHO?

Well...?

After they get this show cancelled, maybe they can work on eliminating junk food from the school cafeterias.

Last I checked, potato chips doesn't have the picture of two underage kids screwing on them.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Tonight we present Mr.Happy with the keys to furry city.
Great dialogue.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

They eat in Nutbush cafeteria.
They go to parties and get a girl recockulously spliffed up and she bangs you.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Why don't FCC rules apply to cable?

 

[Zoom-boing]

Well...?

I do block this shit and I'd be fine if the plug got pulled on this show. At what point does a line get drawn?

The free market will determine that.

so if MTV decided to air full on porn marketed specifically for the 13-17 crowd that'd be ok if the free market says it's ok?

 

[AllieBaba]

Nope.

It's child porn.

It's revolting that people are supporting it.

 

[G.T.]

They eat in Nutbush cafeteria.
They go to parties and get a girl recockulously spliffed up and she bangs you.

well, fwiw, she willingly goes along with getting drugged up to be used for sex but uh, yea

 

[G.T.]

Nope.

It's child porn.

It's revolting that people are supporting it.

I consider it something.....porn's not it though.

 

[G.T.]

I do block this shit and I'd be fine if the plug got pulled on this show. At what point does a line get drawn?

The free market will determine that.

so if MTV decided to air full on porn marketed specifically for the 13-17 crowd that'd be ok if the free market says it's ok?

13-17 porn is illegal

 

[AllieBaba]

Nope.

It's child porn.

It's revolting that people are supporting it.

I consider it something.....porn's not it though.

Actually, yes, it is, according to the definition of child porn:

"What Is Child Pornography?
Under federal law (18 U.S.C. §2256), child pornography1 is defined as any visual depiction, including any photograph, film, video, picture, or computer or computer-generated image or picture, whether made or produced by electronic, mechanical, or other means, of sexually explicit conduct, where

the production of the visual depiction involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; or


the visual depiction is a digital image, computer image, or computer-generated image that is, or is indistinguishable from, that of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; or


the visual depiction has been created, adapted, or modified to appear that an identifiable minor is engaging in sexually explicit conduct.
Federal law (18 U.S.C. §1466A) also criminalizes knowingly producing, distributing, receiving, or possessing with intent to distribute, a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture or painting, that

depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is obscene, or


depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex and such depiction lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. "

Child Pornography Fact Sheet