Six Visas Revoked Due to Hateful Charlie Kirk Comments

[Foxfyre]

All I know is that as a country we have to do something about all of the political violence and advocation for it. Conservatives are under attack!

Those who promote, condone, support, approve of violence against innocent citizens and/or other illegal activity have gone way WAY beyond what is acceptable free speech. Perhaps a citizen cannot be prosecuted for expressing glee that Charlie Kirk (or whoever) was murdered, but he/she justifiably can receive extra scrutiny to see if that speech is translated into other illegal activity.

If it isn't, no problem. We're just dealing with hateful and/or really stupid people and there is no law against that. If it is, then the authorities may be able to intercept and prevent what could otherwise be tragic for innocent citizens.

Those here on VISAs can justifiably be sent home as we don't need to import domestic terrorists or those who approve them.

 

[Marener]

Whatever. He is a criminal but whether or not he should be held accountable for it when he's not mentally competent enough is a whole different story.

Legally, Biden can’t be a criminal since he has presidential immunity.

But overall, you just have an opinion as to whether he’s a criminal. Can’t someone also have the opinion that Benny Johnson is a criminal?

 

[ChristisKing]

Legally, Biden can’t be a criminal since he has presidential immunity.

But overall, you just have an opinion as to whether he’s a criminal. Can’t someone also have the opinion that Benny Johnson is a criminal?

Whatever.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Laugh.

Useless limey.

 

[ThisIsMe]

And maybe others of the same ideology also deserve hatred.

I can think of a lot of ideologies that deserve it.

Should we exclude people from the country who hate racists?

First epstein, now racists. Are we going to go down the list of every character flaw trying to get me in a "gotcha" moment?

You're conflating people with moral flaws with people who have ideologies. If people hate someone for a flaw that society deems bad and you can hate them for that flaw, but illegals trying to enter the country hating an entire group for their ideology is bad. And before you say it, there is no evidence thaf kirk was racist or any of that, other than your partisan subjective view of his stances, taken out of context, because of your own internalized hatred, especially when that message of lies is being pushed by left wing media. I already know where youre trying to go with this. The likely reason the illegals harbor hate is BECAUSE of the left wing media lies.

The fact remains, illegals who hate the citizens of the country they are trying to enter should be heavily scrutinized.

 

[Marener]

First epstein, now racists. Are we going to go down the list of every character flaw trying to get me in a "gotcha" moment?

You're conflating people with moral flaws with people who have ideologies. If people hate someone for a flaw that society deems bad and you can hate them for that flaw, but illegals trying to enter the country hating an entire group for their ideology is bad. And before you say it, there is no evidence thaf kirk was racist or any of that, other than your partisan subjective view of his stances, taken out of context, because of your own internalized hatred, especially when that message of lies is being pushed by left wing media. I already know where youre trying to go with this. The likely reason the illegals harbor hate is BECAUSE of the left wing media lies.

The fact remains, illegals who hate the citizens of the country they are trying to enter should be heavily scrutinized.

First of all, you’re calling them illegal which is nonsensical. These are people applying for a VISA. I don’t know why you automatically label any immigrant an illegal.

Actually I do know, because it helps you justify hatred of them.

I thought we were all pretty much in agreement that it’s okay to hate racist ideologies? I’d worry more if immigrants wanting to come here professed their love of American racists and bigots. Wouldn’t you?

 

[yidnar]

The nonexistent STATE LEVEL snitch lines?

The Minnesota governor in 2020 even set up a hotline through which law enforcement received more than 10,000 emails from residents snitching on neighbors ignoring lockdown measures during that first year of the pandemic, Alpha News reported.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Useless limey.

Gormless fat yank.

In any country anywhere, say whatever you want in the style you want to whoever you want. One thing you don't control is, consequences. But the reason why you're gormless is because many of you have little brain capacity for topics. Your brains tend to run on binary, so, you believe you just open your mouth and spout crap all the time. Totally oblivious. If you love bacon, then say you love bacon, we don't have a problem with that. Run up to Muslims outside a mosque and shout you love bacon to them, you're gonna get lifted by the cops for inciting violence. Your brain can't grasp and cope with that, never will, too inbred and thick.

 

[Papageorgio]

My only issue is how are they getting these messages. Is the government searching people's social media or how does this work?

If it is on social media, it’s public knowledge and either the Feds found it or others found it and turned them in but they are pretty stupid, it was callous and good riddance.

 

[konradv]

Yeah baby!! Now this is what I've been talking about since Charlie Kirk was assassinated. People who hate people this badly have the exact same violent rhetoric that Tyler Robinson had. Next we have to do something with the Americans who wish harm upon others like this.

Fascists will fascist. Can’t handle free speech!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Gormless fat yank.

In any country anywhere, say whatever you want in the style you want to whoever you want. One thing you don't control is, consequences. But the reason why you're gormless is because many of you have little brain capacity for topics. Your brains tend to run on binary, so, you believe you just open your mouth and spout crap all the time. Totally oblivious. If you love bacon, then say you love bacon, we don't have a problem with that. Run up to Muslims outside a mosque and shout you love bacon to them, you're gonna get lifted by the cops for inciting violence. Your brain can't grasp and cope with that, never will, too inbred and thick.

Maybe in the UK that would happen for certain, but not here.

WTF is gormless? We don't use that term in American English. Some type of British slang?

 

[LeftofLeft]

They're sending a message that Trump is an authoritarian.

Visas are a Privilege not a Right. People here on Visas can speak freely but need to show some respect and civility. If they are speaking in a violent tone with no respect for humanity, then they could be a threat.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah baby!! Now this is what I've been talking about since Charlie Kirk was assassinated. People who hate people this badly have the exact same violent rhetoric that Tyler Robinson had. Next we have to do something with the Americans who wish harm upon others like this.

I don't think you wingnuts want "rhetoric" to be a reason to revoke your rights and privileges.

US sending a message, there is no guarantee that comes with their visas.

Funny, I thought the First Amendment was a guarantee.

I may hate what you say, but I'll fight for your right to say it.

 

[JoeB131]

Visas are a Privilege not a Right. People here on Visas can speak freely but need to show some respect and civility. If they are speaking in a violent tone with no respect for humanity, then they could be a threat.

So what did these people say that was so offensive that we need to violate the First Amendment?

I don't like some of the awful things said about Kirk after he died.
I also don't like the right's attempts to glorify him after his murder.

But last time I checked, it was still a free country.

I find myself having to check that more and more often, for some reason.

 

[JoeB131]

Those who promote, condone, support, approve of violence against innocent citizens and/or other illegal activity have gone way WAY beyond what is acceptable free speech.

Funny, I seem to remember you had a different opinion about January 6th.

 

[struth]

Okay. So if the author said he hopes Benny Johnson is executed under the death penalty with a bullet to the head, that would have been just fine. Correct?



SCOTUS says the president is immune so you’re out of luck. There was no way for Biden to be found guilty of treason so technically Charlie Kirk was hoping for the illegal death of Biden.



Benny Johnson is a real piece of shit.

1) sure, say it all you want.
2) No, SCOTUS said the President is criminally immune from official acts. Treason is not an official act of the President. He can try to raise that defense, but I don't think it would fly....
3) I don't know enough about him to form an opinion.

 

[struth]

So what did these people say that was so offensive that we need to violate the First Amendment?

I don't like some of the awful things said about Kirk after he died.
I also don't like the right's attempts to glorify him after his murder.

But last time I checked, it was still a free country.

I find myself having to check that more and more often, for some reason.

How's the first amendment being violated? Let's start with answering that question.

 

[LeftofLeft]

So what did these people say that was so offensive that we need to violate the First Amendment?

I don't like some of the awful things said about Kirk after he died.
I also don't like the right's attempts to glorify him after his murder.

But last time I checked, it was still a free country.

I find myself having to check that more and more often, for some reason.

Read the quotes. What they said was vile, violent, hateful, and intolerant. Are these traits we want to be issuing Visas? These are traits found in terrorists and those that want to cause harm to the US.

The Left punishes for Hate Speech despite it being a violation of the First Amendment. It’s time to be consistent.

 

[22lcidw]

You do know when you put something on social media, it's public, right?

It all depends on who is controlling the social media and in any other way. People will gravitate to the empowered like sheep for their orders of who is the outcast to emasculate. Many will talk freedom why promoting suffering of individuals.

 

[ChristisKing]

Fascists will fascist. Can’t handle free speech!

The left couldn't handle Charlie Kirk's free speech and that's what got him assassinated.

But last time I checked, it was still a free country.

Until a democrat disagrees with a republican. Then they want them dead. That's the problem.