Since we know that trickledown economics is a GOP lie, why are republicans still opposed to taxing the very wealthy more?

[fncceo]

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and..

Every vacation, every Mercedes, every Porsche, and ever boat, contributes to the economy.

Your class envy is so ugly.

 

[Billy000]

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and..

Every vacation, every Mercedes, every Porsche, and ever boat, contributes to the economy.

Your class envy is so ugly.

Again, a blip on the radar. These are the facts.

 

[Shelzin]

I understand that you rightwing douches lack the nuance and critical thinking to understand my point, but at some point you have to figure it out. I am not suggesting we abolish capitalism. I’m saying we create a private market system that is more egalitarian.

Well... I hope you actually supported a candidate not named Biden as the democrat nominee then. Because... There were much better choices.

Edit: On topic though... We don't need to tax them more... We just need to tax them what we say they need to be taxed. No loopholes.

 

[DukeU]

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.

Stop coveting other people's success/money. Stealing from the rich is not a noble strategy.

 

[Vrenn]

He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers.

That wasn't a complaint... that's a cold, hard fact. The more a worker costs, the fewer you can hire at the same productivity.

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.

and when they spend money in those places it helps the workers there,,

thats called trickle down,,

Considering that they don't spend more money "there" there is no trickle down, just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.

 

[progressive hunter]

The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


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currently about 50% of the population pay nothing in taxs and the uber rich pay the highest part of taxs,,

fix that problem and we can talk about you stupid idea,,

We certainly can fix that problem. 99% of the wealth is owned by the top 20%. But the top 20% pay less than 99% of the taxes. Using your logic, we lower the percentage of wealth to the top 20%. Wonder how that's going to go over?

sounds like youre jealous,,,

maybe you should stop being a lazy piece of shit and get out there and do something,,


all of these rich people employ hundreds or thousands of people and when they use their money to buy the nice stuff they also help the job market,,

paying higher taxs takes money from the people and gives it to the government to waste on turtle tunnels and gender studies in pakistan,,

No it doesn't. A case in point was a guy here that owned an entire chain of McDonalds. He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers. He was being interviewed in the Airport on his 6th vacation that year to Hawaii. Meanwhile, his workers were all on the poverty list. And before you go off on all the jobs were being done by High Schoolers, they weren't. The Job Market has forced some people with families to have to take those jobs with no future of advancement.

Trickle only works on trickle up.

sounds like his employees need a better job than one reserved for students and first time workers,,,

trickle down worked pretty good for me since I have never worked for a poor person,,

If better jobs were available yes. But needing a better job and getting a better job is a different animal. Begging street corners pays better than either option.

then they should go beg on the street corner and stop complaining because mcdonalds doesnt pay enough,,

its friggen mcdonalds for christ sake,,

 

[progressive hunter]

He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers.

That wasn't a complaint... that's a cold, hard fact. The more a worker costs, the fewer you can hire at the same productivity.

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.

and when they spend money in those places it helps the workers there,,

thats called trickle down,,

Considering that they don't spend more money "there" there is no trickle down, just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.

so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??

now youre just being stupid,,

 

[Oddball]

We know that trickle up poverty is a reality.

Demoncrats practice trickled-on economics....They piss on your foot and tell you it's raining.

 

[Vrenn]

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.

Stop coveting other people's success/money. Stealing from the rich is not a noble strategy.

Decades ago, the Corporate CEO made 45 times what the average company worker makes. Today, the Company CEO makes over 300 times what the average worker does. Goes to show that trickle up is much stronger than trickle down.

 

[Oddball]

If you got more money from so called very wealthy what then? Would it used for something important like say oh I don’t know taking a very, very small step in paying down the national debt or would it be used for yet more partisan pork bullshit. My vote would be for the second.

Regardless of where the money went, it would help for pay for any government spending and reduce the deficit.

You reduce the deficit by cutting spending, knucklehead.

 

[fncceo]

just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.

I've seen them ... they don't even do the work of one.

 

[fncceo]

Decades ago, the Corporate CEO made 45 times what the average company worker makes. Today, the Company CEO makes over 300 times what the average worker does.

Progress!

 

[Vrenn]

He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers.

That wasn't a complaint... that's a cold, hard fact. The more a worker costs, the fewer you can hire at the same productivity.

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.

and when they spend money in those places it helps the workers there,,

thats called trickle down,,

Considering that they don't spend more money "there" there is no trickle down, just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.

so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??

now youre just being stupid,,

Ah, so you noticed the Homeless. Are you aware that many of the Homeless have jobs?

 

[DukeU]

sounds like his employees need a better job than one reserved for students and first time workers,,,

trickle down worked pretty good for me since I have never worked for a poor person,,

Trickle down works for everyone who isn't digging their money up in the backyard or have their own money tree.

Democrats see the rich as their money tree........... Let's steal theirs!!!!!

 

[Oddball]

just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.

I've seen them ... they don't even do the work of one.

The construction trades in the early 2000s!

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


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I have never understood why some people who pay less income taxes than their neighbor, would demand that the neighbor pay more.

About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them.

The richest among us tend to pay the most taxes, generally about 27% for the top 1%. They pay so much more than most of us do. Personally, I am thankful and wish them even greater future success, but I do pay a tidy sum of taxes myself.

To answer your original query:
This wealthiest among us owe us squat. They can take their money and run after firing everyone.

But instead, they make more money by continuing to employ people who buy homes and other things, paying property, sales, social security and other taxes, while these employers are paying similar taxes themselves.

The wealthiest among us pay most of the taxes, and that pays for most of the operations of the government, including schools, roads, law and order, defense, energy, etc.

Demonizing the successful has to stop. We need to encourage success. Everyone would love to be successful. Everyone can be, if they strive to do so, every day.

It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes. ANY worker at least pays payroll taxes. In fact, 1/5 of a poor person's income goes to their taxes.

You're conveniently not acknowledging the EFFECTIVE taxes rich people pay. 2/3 of corporations do not pay any federal income taxes because of the taxe loopholes they take advantage of. The "official" tax rate is effectively meaningless.

> It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes.

I said, "About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them."

Pay attention, and quit being so anxious to call people liars.

You want people who already pay way more taxes than you to pay even more. That does not seem fair to me.

You think it is fair, because you and others outnumber these rich people who employ everyone, and you make less money than they do. That's quite selfish, to basically confiscate other's money, because you have the votes to do so.

 

[Billy000]

The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


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I have never understood why some people who pay less income taxes than their neighbor, would demand that the neighbor pay more.

About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them.

The richest among us tend to pay the most taxes, generally about 27% for the top 1%. They pay so much more than most of us do. Personally, I am thankful and wish them even greater future success, but I do pay a tidy sum of taxes myself.

To answer your original query:
This wealthiest among us owe us squat. They can take their money and run after firing everyone.

But instead, they make more money by continuing to employ people who buy homes and other things, paying property, sales, social security and other taxes, while these employers are paying similar taxes themselves.

The wealthiest among us pay most of the taxes, and that pays for most of the operations of the government, including schools, roads, law and order, defense, energy, etc.

Demonizing the successful has to stop. We need to encourage success. Everyone would love to be successful. Everyone can be, if they strive to do so, every day.

It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes. ANY worker at least pays payroll taxes. In fact, 1/5 of a poor person's income goes to their taxes.

You're conveniently not acknowledging the EFFECTIVE taxes rich people pay. 2/3 of corporations do not pay any federal income taxes because of the taxe loopholes they take advantage of. The "official" tax rate is effectively meaningless.

> It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes.

I said, "About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them."

Pay attention.

Either way your point is stupid since any worker pays taxes lol

 

[DukeU]

Considering that they don't spend more money

Aside from the fact that the rich invest their money in countless ways the poor use.

Do the rich use banks to "hoard" their money? Do those banks in turn loan out that money to people who need it? And, what do they do with the money after they receive the loan?

 

[Billy000]

The wealth disparity in the US is the widest in the world. We KNOW corporate subsidies and tax breaks do not benefit the middle class or poor on any significant level. It's simply a myth they would choose to invest the extra money into lower level work forces. Why pay the fast food worker more if republican policy allows the fat cats to just keep the money they save from tax loopholes or meat subsidies? No point in that for them. There is no incentive.


"Under this legislation," the proposal noted above a list of billionaires in America, "the families of all 657 billionaires in America who have a combined net worth of over $4.26 trillion would owe up to $2.7 trillion in estate taxes."

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I have never understood why some people who pay less income taxes than their neighbor, would demand that the neighbor pay more.

About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them.

The richest among us tend to pay the most taxes, generally about 27% for the top 1%. They pay so much more than most of us do. Personally, I am thankful and wish them even greater future success, but I do pay a tidy sum of taxes myself.

To answer your original query:
This wealthiest among us owe us squat. They can take their money and run after firing everyone.

But instead, they make more money by continuing to employ people who buy homes and other things, paying property, sales, social security and other taxes, while these employers are paying similar taxes themselves.

The wealthiest among us pay most of the taxes, and that pays for most of the operations of the government, including schools, roads, law and order, defense, energy, etc.

Demonizing the successful has to stop. We need to encourage success. Everyone would love to be successful. Everyone can be, if they strive to do so, every day.

It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes. ANY worker at least pays payroll taxes. In fact, 1/5 of a poor person's income goes to their taxes.

You're conveniently not acknowledging the EFFECTIVE taxes rich people pay. 2/3 of corporations do not pay any federal income taxes because of the taxe loopholes they take advantage of. The "official" tax rate is effectively meaningless.

> It's simply a lie that half of workers do not pay taxes.

I said, "About half of Americans pay no federal income tax at all; the rest of us pay it for them."

Pay attention, and quit being so anxious to call people liars.

You want people who already pay way more taxes than you to pay even more. That does not seem fair to me.

Yes, it is simple economics that wealthy people must pay more in taxes. It’s not about what’s “fair”. It’s about what is realistic.

 

[progressive hunter]

He complained to a reporter that the raise in min wage would cause him to cut workers.

That wasn't a complaint... that's a cold, hard fact. The more a worker costs, the fewer you can hire at the same productivity.

And the more vacations he and his family can take to Hawaii or Rome or wherever. And the new Mercedes and Porches and the new half million dollar boat and.. And you expect the welfare department to make up the difference with your workers between starving and not starving. It's called Corporate Welfare.

and when they spend money in those places it helps the workers there,,

thats called trickle down,,

Considering that they don't spend more money "there" there is no trickle down, just layoffs and 1 person is now expected to do the work of 2.

so they live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans while their there??

now youre just being stupid,,

Ah, so you noticed the Homeless. Are you aware that many of the Homeless have jobs?

not sure what that has to do with what I said or the topic,,