Simple questions - never answered.

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Remind me what the Democratic program is to take care of our current situation? Raise taxes, increase regulation, launch another stimulus--oops infrastructure--oops jobs investment plan? How has all that worked out for you so far?

I love these deflections from the Democrat failures of the last 4 years.
Face it: The Democratic Party's vision has proven to be a disaster for America. The verdict on this experiment will be delivered tomorrow.

The only verdict that will be rendered tomorrow is one on the effectiveness of the RW spin machine. And yes, we all know what that verdict will be. The fact that your "team" is going to "win" doesn't mean it's right or good for you or anyone else.

I'd say you'll be sorry, but under no circumstances will you ever blame anything that goes wrong on anyone but the Democrats... If you disagree with that last sentence, by all means correct me.
 
1. Cut capital gains to 5%.

2. No corporate income tax for the first 5 years of any new business

Effect: GDP doubles in 5 years
And the impact on the federal debt?

All those tax cuts. What goes toward reducing debt?

Seen this one a couple times now. Folks the debt is not the people's problem. It's congresses problem and they have no right to hold the American people accountable (via tax increases) for their irresponsible spending. The things I have found most disturbing about this debate is even expert economists are saying it's a forgone conclusion that taxes must go up. There was a story on 60 minutes about this from Regan's old advisor and he and seems a lot of others have just given up on the idea of government reigning in its spending and have thus concluded that the 'only' solution is to raise taxes.

With tax cuts must come spending cuts and that's where the problem seems to be. Neither side wants to cut anything significantly. Here are some ideas:

There can be no sacred cows. Defense can be cut by getting out of Afghanistan and focusing on real and present dangers to the U.S. Close some bases on foreign soil.

Something must be done about social security as well. My idea: let's make it what it's called, instead of itty bitty retirement fund for everyone that is basically useless for the upper middle class and wealthy. Instead we all agree that it's only going to be paid to those that actually need it. We'll all still pay the SS tax, but the tax should go down since it's not going to pay for everyone anymore.

End the federal Dept. of Education. The fed has no constitutional authority where education is concerned. Let the states handle it. Doing so should make public schools better as the states will be free to do what they need to do to make their schools better.
 
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The stereo-typical RWer ~ Probably because such a RWer doesn't think of the consequences.

This sums the rightwingers up. Whenever a Democrat makes a proposal, it is always accompanied by the long range projections, but you will never see a rightwinger do that. They shoot from the hip and don't care who they hit in the process. That's not said to be mean, it is just a fact.
 
The stereo-typical RWer ~ Probably because such a RWer doesn't think of the consequences.

This sums the rightwingers up. Whenever a Democrat makes a proposal, it is always accompanied by the long range projections, but you will never see a rightwinger do that. They shoot from the hip and don't care who they hit in the process. That's not said to be mean, it is just a fact.

Sure... like unemployment will not go over 8%... Obamcare will cause premiums to go down, the Summer of Recovery, Shovel ready Jobs... I remember all these long range projections.
 
The stereo-typical RWer ~ Probably because such a RWer doesn't think of the consequences.

This sums the rightwingers up. Whenever a Democrat makes a proposal, it is always accompanied by the long range projections, but you will never see a rightwinger do that. They shoot from the hip and don't care who they hit in the process. That's not said to be mean, it is just a fact.
Yeah...Long range projections that always underestimate how many people will sign up for the freebies and how much by they're going to end up costing....Sometimes off by as much as X10.

With a track record like that, I wouldn't start bidding on construction jobs out in the real world.
 
The stereo-typical RWer ~ Probably because such a RWer doesn't think of the consequences.

This sums the rightwingers up. Whenever a Democrat makes a proposal, it is always accompanied by the long range projections, but you will never see a rightwinger do that. They shoot from the hip and don't care who they hit in the process. That's not said to be mean, it is just a fact.

ROFLMAO!!!! Once again, the Left sees itself as cool, rational and scientific while the Right is emotional, religious, and out of control. ROFL!
It isn't true. It is the very opposite of reality. What kind of "long range projections" were given for Obamacare?
Even CBO Is Skeptical of ObamaCare
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CBO: Senate ObamaCare bill would reduce deficit by $127 billion over 10 years Hot Air

Tell me more about all those projections. The CBO scored it everywhere from lowering the deficit to increasing the deficit massively. We all know what the real answer is. The real answer is "Fuck You" because the Dems know better than we do. The Dems are the Party of Fuck You.
And tomorrow they're going to be the ones fucked here.
 
I remember Barney Frank proudly projecting that Fannie and Freddie were "sound".

Yep....
 
The stereo-typical RWer ~ Probably because such a RWer doesn't think of the consequences.

This sums the rightwingers up. Whenever a Democrat makes a proposal, it is always accompanied by the long range projections, but you will never see a rightwinger do that. They shoot from the hip and don't care who they hit in the process. That's not said to be mean, it is just a fact.

ROFLMAO!!!! Once again, the Left sees itself as cool, rational and scientific while the Right is emotional, religious, and out of control. ROFL!
It isn't true. It is the very opposite of reality. What kind of "long range projections" were given for Obamacare?
Even CBO Is Skeptical of ObamaCare
ObamaCare update: CBO score, deem-and-pass and options in the Senate | United Liberty | Free Market - Individual Liberty - Limited Government
CBO: Senate ObamaCare bill would reduce deficit by $127 billion over 10 years Hot Air

Tell me more about all those projections. The CBO scored it everywhere from lowering the deficit to increasing the deficit massively. We all know what the real answer is. The real answer is "Fuck You" because the Dems know better than we do. The Dems are the Party of Fuck You.
And tomorrow they're going to be the ones fucked here.

Tomorrow these statists are going to get a good dose of what the bitter clingers thinks of them and their long range projections.
 
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The stereo-typical RWer wants to cut taxes and cut regulations and cut government but never suggests which taxes will be cut & the impact of such cuts; which regulations to eliminate and the impact of less oversight; and which government agencies to cut and the consequences of those cuts.

Probably because such a RWer doesn't think of the consequences. It's the tea party mentality, simple solutions to complex problems, and exactly why I find the new right to be populated by simple simons and simple susans.

In place of the usual personal attacks and idiotgrams is there anyone who plans to vote for a Sarah Palin type candidate whose considered the consequences? Or, as I suspect, is a vote for a tea party candidate nothing more than an emotional brain fart?
They've been specified times so numerous that you have to be either too stupid and/or too lazy to do a forum search, for those proposed tax & policy changes and projected resultant effects.

But one effect is for certain: Just propose slowing the growth of the authoritarian socialistic do-gooder nanny state (and don't dare let out a peep about actual cuts) and you'll be howled and screeched about as the mean-spirited, hard-hearted, wrongheaded, cold, cruel, selfish, bigoted, neanderthal anarchist, who wants the elderly and sainted pooooooooor to die in the streets, the holy chiiiiillllllldrrreeeeeennnnnn starving, barefoot and uneducated, the skies brown, rivers burning with oil fires, unwanted kittens put in gunny sacks and thrown into those burning rivers, women stampeded and cattle raped.

No OddDude, you will be characterized as a follower of simple solutions to complex problems. In fact no one who advocates wholesale cuts ever considers the consequences of the cuts.
Government can and should be made more efficient; simply cutting or adding revenue to programs makes no sense, and this is why the fringe on both the far left and the far right are fringe - they make no effort to understand the consequences of such policies and react emotionally (or in your case hysterically).

No one who advocates wholesale cuts has ever posted a reasonable argument demonstrating the cost-benefits/harms of such cuts.
For example, let's assume the FDA is eliminated. Are you able to foresee consequences of such an action? I doubt you can, beyond the obvious. And that is why I find the new right so dumb.
 
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Why do Libs always assume the worst about people?

Do landlords keep apartments filled by denying heat in the winter? Seriously?
I'm the county building inspector. Do you want to argue from anedotal evidence, or shall I give you real world examples of landlord abuse?

...and that's with HUD Fannie, Freddie and the Department of Education.

no doubt, we must need more government
In every case, I mean 100% of the time, when I inspect a Section Eight unit, the problems are minor (faulty smoke detector. fix? $1.79 and a new 9 volt battery) When I inspect non Section Eight properties, I find fuel oil tanks improperly installed (one had no provision to fill the tank, another had no exterior vent) I find foundations that have collapsed (in one case, the landlord simply placed the stones back in the void without mortar and shimmed the sill with paint stirring sticks and asphalt shingles)

The government programs provide basic guidelines and regulations. municipal building codes generally don't. The HUD properties are inspected annually. I can only inspect after a building permit has been issued.
 
Here are some ideas:

There can be no sacred cows. Defense can be cut by getting out of Afghanistan and focusing on real and present dangers to the U.S. Close some based on foreign soil.

You talk of constitutional authority on education. Show me where the US Troop should be off American soil & defending anyone else but US citizens. Cut the cord...............save 50% of the budget & restore sanity.

Something must be done about social security as well. My idea: let's make it what it's called, instead of itty bitty retirement fund for everyone that is basically useless for the upper middle class and wealthy. Instead we all agree that it's only going to be paid to those that actually need it. We'll all still pay the SS tax, but the tax should go down since it's not going to pay for everyone anymore.

Everybody needs it, even Senator McCain. Just make a law that anyone using SS funds for any other purpose is committing a felony & will be punished to the full extent of the law. It would be solvent in a few years.

End the federal Dept. of Education. The fed has no constitutional authority where education is concerned. Let the states handle it. Doing so should make public schools better as the states will be free to do what they need to do to make their schools better.

Why sure they do, to promote the general welfare. Why not put the tax burden on corporations who benefit the most from that education. Corporations do not pay their fair share of taxes, or pay no taxes at all.
 
I'm the county building inspector. Do you want to argue from anedotal evidence, or shall I give you real world examples of landlord abuse?

...and that's with HUD Fannie, Freddie and the Department of Education.

no doubt, we must need more government
In every case, I mean 100% of the time, when I inspect a Section Eight unit, the problems are minor (faulty smoke detector. fix? $1.79 and a new 9 volt battery) When I inspect non Section Eight properties, I find fuel oil tanks improperly installed (one had no provision to fill the tank, another had no exterior vent) I find foundations that have collapsed (in one case, the landlord simply placed the stones back in the void without mortar and shimmed the sill with paint stirring sticks and asphalt shingles)

The government programs provide basic guidelines and regulations. municipal building codes generally don't. The HUD properties are inspected annually. I can only inspect after a building permit has been issued.

Of course that's what you think... you feed off the public. You're a public sector parasite. I've dealt with your kind... replacing a six-foot privacy fence at one of my rentals becomes a three-month Odyssey complete with fees, fines and government dolts who couldn't make a dime in the private sector lecturing me on servitudes and right-of-ways.
 
Here are some ideas:

There can be no sacred cows. Defense can be cut by getting out of Afghanistan and focusing on real and present dangers to the U.S. Close some based on foreign soil.

You talk of constitutional authority on education. Show me where the US Troop should be off American soil & defending anyone else but US citizens. Cut the cord...............save 50% of the budget & restore sanity.

Something must be done about social security as well. My idea: let's make it what it's called, instead of itty bitty retirement fund for everyone that is basically useless for the upper middle class and wealthy. Instead we all agree that it's only going to be paid to those that actually need it. We'll all still pay the SS tax, but the tax should go down since it's not going to pay for everyone anymore.

Everybody needs it, even Senator McCain. Just make a law that anyone using SS funds for any other purpose is committing a felony & will be punished to the full extent of the law. It would be solvent in a few years.

End the federal Dept. of Education. The fed has no constitutional authority where education is concerned. Let the states handle it. Doing so should make public schools better as the states will be free to do what they need to do to make their schools better.

Why sure they do, to promote the general welfare. Why not put the tax burden on corporations who benefit the most from that education. Corporations do not pay their fair share of taxes, or pay no taxes at all.

Call me when the 45% paying nothing start paying, oh, I dunno, something?
 
No party or leader will have the grapes to do what really needs to be done.

The best we can hope for is that the gop slows the free fall. The dems idea of having the government do things for you is so heavily engrained that if what needs to be done is even openly suggested by anyone they will be roasted alive.
 
The stereo-typical RWer ~ Probably because such a RWer doesn't think of the consequences.

This sums the rightwingers up. Whenever a Democrat makes a proposal, it is always accompanied by the long range projections, but you will never see a rightwinger do that. They shoot from the hip and don't care who they hit in the process. That's not said to be mean, it is just a fact.

Without accepting your premise, what is the virtue of long range projections that are always wrong?
 
...and that's with HUD Fannie, Freddie and the Department of Education.

no doubt, we must need more government
In every case, I mean 100% of the time, when I inspect a Section Eight unit, the problems are minor (faulty smoke detector. fix? $1.79 and a new 9 volt battery) When I inspect non Section Eight properties, I find fuel oil tanks improperly installed (one had no provision to fill the tank, another had no exterior vent) I find foundations that have collapsed (in one case, the landlord simply placed the stones back in the void without mortar and shimmed the sill with paint stirring sticks and asphalt shingles)

The government programs provide basic guidelines and regulations. municipal building codes generally don't. The HUD properties are inspected annually. I can only inspect after a building permit has been issued.

Of course that's what you think... you feed off the public. You're a public sector parasite. I've dealt with your kind... replacing a six-foot privacy fence at one of my rentals becomes a three-month Odyssey complete with fees, fines and government dolts who couldn't make a dime in the private sector lecturing me on servitudes and right-of-ways.
You want to live in a community without building codes? Great ! Move to Port au Prince Haiti!


You should learn a little before demonstrating how ignorant you truly are.
 
...and that's with HUD Fannie, Freddie and the Department of Education.

no doubt, we must need more government
In every case, I mean 100% of the time, when I inspect a Section Eight unit, the problems are minor (faulty smoke detector. fix? $1.79 and a new 9 volt battery) When I inspect non Section Eight properties, I find fuel oil tanks improperly installed (one had no provision to fill the tank, another had no exterior vent) I find foundations that have collapsed (in one case, the landlord simply placed the stones back in the void without mortar and shimmed the sill with paint stirring sticks and asphalt shingles)

The government programs provide basic guidelines and regulations. municipal building codes generally don't. The HUD properties are inspected annually. I can only inspect after a building permit has been issued.

Of course that's what you think... you feed off the public. You're a public sector parasite. I've dealt with your kind... replacing a six-foot privacy fence at one of my rentals becomes a three-month Odyssey complete with fees, fines and government dolts who couldn't make a dime in the private sector lecturing me on servitudes and right-of-ways.
Section 8. Don't get me started. I had an inspection one year and they found some things. We fixed them, at great cost. The tenant was no better off because we had grates over the tiny openings in the crawlspace. But OK.
The next year they came back with another laundry list of things that were fine the previous year and hadn't changed at all.
Section 8 drives up costs for landlords and limits choice for tenants. That is one program that can be easily cut.
 
In every case, I mean 100% of the time, when I inspect a Section Eight unit, the problems are minor (faulty smoke detector. fix? $1.79 and a new 9 volt battery) When I inspect non Section Eight properties, I find fuel oil tanks improperly installed (one had no provision to fill the tank, another had no exterior vent) I find foundations that have collapsed (in one case, the landlord simply placed the stones back in the void without mortar and shimmed the sill with paint stirring sticks and asphalt shingles)

The government programs provide basic guidelines and regulations. municipal building codes generally don't. The HUD properties are inspected annually. I can only inspect after a building permit has been issued.

Of course that's what you think... you feed off the public. You're a public sector parasite. I've dealt with your kind... replacing a six-foot privacy fence at one of my rentals becomes a three-month Odyssey complete with fees, fines and government dolts who couldn't make a dime in the private sector lecturing me on servitudes and right-of-ways.
You want to live in a community without building codes? Great ! Move to Port au Prince Haiti!


You should learn a little before demonstrating how ignorant you truly are.

This is the plaint of every government drone. If you don't have strangling overwhelming regulations then people will be dying in the street. It's a false dichotomy. It isn't tenable on any logical basis.
 
The stereo-typical RWer ~ Probably because such a RWer doesn't think of the consequences.

This sums the rightwingers up. Whenever a Democrat makes a proposal, it is always accompanied by the long range projections, but you will never see a rightwinger do that. They shoot from the hip and don't care who they hit in the process. That's not said to be mean, it is just a fact.

Without accepting your premise, what is the virtue of long range projections that are always wrong?

Thinking ahead is not "always wrong"; there is nothing virtuous of not planning ahead or considering the consequences before one acts - it's kind of what all of us ought to have learned way before we entered school.
 

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