Shutdown could last years

[Mikeoxenormous]

Veterans will cease to get some treatments, especially mental health.

Bullshit

{
As a result, most of the department’s 377,000-plus employees won’t be affected by a partial shutdown. VA officials said only a small number of Veterans Health Administration workers will be temporarily sent home, and none of them deal directly with patient care.

Some transition assistance programs would be shuttered during a shutdown, as will non-essential call centers. But the department’s suicide prevention hotline would remain operational.
}

VA could weather a government shutdown better than most other departments

Guards and staff at federal prison will walk off the job.

Bull ******* shit

{Within the Department of Justice, most law enforcement officials, FBI agents, Drug Enforcement Administration officials, and U.S. attorneys will continue working. All staff at federal prisons, including Public Health Service Officers and anyone who deals directly with prisoners, will keep reporting to work, too. The chairman and commissioners of the U.S. Parole Commission will continue responding to requests for emergency warrants and processing parole certificates to preserve the writ of habeas corpus. The Bureau of Prisons‘ buildings, facilities, and commisionary accounts have enough carryover funds to be able to pay for expenses during a government shutdown such as this. Any hiring or training of new non-essential Department of Justice employees will be postponed, however.}

How Does the Government Shutdown Affect the Justice System? - Prison Fellowship

Homeland Security will run on a skeleton crew. Ports will not be secure.

Oversight for infrastructure will cease.

A few thousand FBI agents, DEA agents, and US Marshalls are gone.

A few thousand US Forest Service firefighters are gone.

A total ******* lie.

A few thousand federal weather forecasters (the source for most weather services) will be gone.

NASA is all but closed.

National Park Service and the Forest Service lose 80% of their workers.



But who cares, right?

Did you take RDerp pills this morning?

You're lying through your ******* teeth.

NON-ESSENTIAL, get it?

Government shutdown by the numbers: Who isn't getting paid

I did not say it was happening now. But the title of the thread is "Shutdown could last years".

The law enforcement and prison workers are not getting paid. How long do you think they can continue to work without pay? 6 months? How many people do you know who could work for years without getting paid? Even if a special program stopped them from being evicted or their homes foreclosed, how do you buy groceries, get to and from work, buys clothes for your kids??

There are other jobs in the market. What government employees dont want to do is have to "Work". Biggest pork in the government is the waste of it on the "worker"..

 

[Uncensored2008]

You're still lying, as Marxists always do.

The only ones who are going without pay are the non-essential workers, tour guides, parking attendants, and the like.

I get it, government is your god, the idea that there could be any sort of disruption to the voracious growth of government angers a Marxist like you. So you lie, or at least repeat the lies of the little Goebbels of the party press.

Fact, about 3% of the federal workforce is furloughed, despite the lying attempts by you and other Marxists to make it seem as if this "shutdown" has any meaning to the average person.

Why do you keep lying and throwing out hat bullshit 3% figure?

roughly 800,000 are furloughed.

everyone working for an agency without funding is not getting paid till this is over, even if it takes months. That includes DHS which is the Border Patrol and ICE. After their next check it will also include the Coast Guard.

Everyone still working for these agencies will not see a paycheck till this is over. All your lies in the world will not change that fact

Department of State
Department of the Treasury
Department of Justice
Most of the Department of the Interior
Department of Agriculture
Department of Commerce
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Department of Transportation
Department of Homeland Security
Judicial Branch

Yet they will all be paid, save a 3% deemed non-essential.

I get it, government is your god, the idea that someone would put the brakes on outrages a Marxist like you.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Veterans will cease to get some treatments, especially mental health.

Bullshit

{
As a result, most of the department’s 377,000-plus employees won’t be affected by a partial shutdown. VA officials said only a small number of Veterans Health Administration workers will be temporarily sent home, and none of them deal directly with patient care.

Some transition assistance programs would be shuttered during a shutdown, as will non-essential call centers. But the department’s suicide prevention hotline would remain operational.
}

VA could weather a government shutdown better than most other departments

Guards and staff at federal prison will walk off the job.

Bull ******* shit

{Within the Department of Justice, most law enforcement officials, FBI agents, Drug Enforcement Administration officials, and U.S. attorneys will continue working. All staff at federal prisons, including Public Health Service Officers and anyone who deals directly with prisoners, will keep reporting to work, too. The chairman and commissioners of the U.S. Parole Commission will continue responding to requests for emergency warrants and processing parole certificates to preserve the writ of habeas corpus. The Bureau of Prisons‘ buildings, facilities, and commisionary accounts have enough carryover funds to be able to pay for expenses during a government shutdown such as this. Any hiring or training of new non-essential Department of Justice employees will be postponed, however.}

How Does the Government Shutdown Affect the Justice System? - Prison Fellowship

Homeland Security will run on a skeleton crew. Ports will not be secure.

Oversight for infrastructure will cease.

A few thousand FBI agents, DEA agents, and US Marshalls are gone.

A few thousand US Forest Service firefighters are gone.

A total ******* lie.

A few thousand federal weather forecasters (the source for most weather services) will be gone.

NASA is all but closed.

National Park Service and the Forest Service lose 80% of their workers.



But who cares, right?

Did you take RDerp pills this morning?

You're lying through your ******* teeth.

NON-ESSENTIAL, get it?

Government shutdown by the numbers: Who isn't getting paid

I did not say it was happening now. But the title of the thread is "Shutdown could last years".

The law enforcement and prison workers are not getting paid. How long do you think they can continue to work without pay? 6 months? How many people do you know who could work for years without getting paid? Even if a special program stopped them from being evicted or their homes foreclosed, how do you buy groceries, get to and from work, buys clothes for your kids??

They are getting paid.

A small fraction might see a paycheck delayed. Remember, 75% of the government, including the department of prisons, is already funded.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Our President is committed to doing the Presidency right, and neither Chuck nor Nancy seem to be willing to cede an inch on this. With Donald J. Trump behind us, we can last as long as needed.

Trump: Government will be shutdown as long as it takes - CNN Video

When the rest of the United States sees that these NON-essential personnel are not essential, then there wont be a big fuss over cutting the government PORK. In 24 days welfare gets cut off also, lets see what happens in inner cities.....

If you live in or near a large city, if I were you, I would be buying up some fire insurance and quick, if you dont already have some.

Well, one of the agencies deemed "non essential" is the NTSB. They are unable to investigate the accident today with the church van and 18 wheelers that killed 5 kids and 2 adults because they are on furlough.

Will investigating the accident mean that no more accidents will ever happen?

does building a wall mean nobody will ever sneak across the border again?

Trump supporters think that. They think that a wall will stop drugs, illegals, terrorists, and any other bad thing we don't want in our country.

And, while it MAY stop them from going across the border, there is nothing to stop them from going UNDER the wall. Drug cartels are notoriously good tunnel makers.

You Marxists think that too, which is why you fight so viciously against the wall.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You're still lying, as Marxists always do.

The only ones who are going without pay are the non-essential workers, tour guides, parking attendants, and the like.

I get it, government is your god, the idea that there could be any sort of disruption to the voracious growth of government angers a Marxist like you. So you lie, or at least repeat the lies of the little Goebbels of the party press.

Fact, about 3% of the federal workforce is furloughed, despite the lying attempts by you and other Marxists to make it seem as if this "shutdown" has any meaning to the average person.

Why do you keep lying and throwing out hat bullshit 3% figure?

roughly 800,000 are furloughed.

everyone working for an agency without funding is not getting paid till this is over, even if it takes months. That includes DHS which is the Border Patrol and ICE. After their next check it will also include the Coast Guard.

Everyone still working for these agencies will not see a paycheck till this is over. All your lies in the world will not change that fact

Department of State
Department of the Treasury
Department of Justice
Most of the Department of the Interior
Department of Agriculture
Department of Commerce
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Department of Transportation
Department of Homeland Security
Judicial Branch

Yet they will all be paid, save a 3% deemed non-essential.

I get it, government is your god, the idea that someone would put the brakes on outrages a Marxist like you.

The 3% number is bull shit and none of them, whether they are working or not will get paid till the shutdown is over.

 

[Polishprince]

You're still lying, as Marxists always do.

The only ones who are going without pay are the non-essential workers, tour guides, parking attendants, and the like.

I get it, government is your god, the idea that there could be any sort of disruption to the voracious growth of government angers a Marxist like you. So you lie, or at least repeat the lies of the little Goebbels of the party press.

Fact, about 3% of the federal workforce is furloughed, despite the lying attempts by you and other Marxists to make it seem as if this "shutdown" has any meaning to the average person.

Why do you keep lying and throwing out hat bullshit 3% figure?

roughly 800,000 are furloughed.

everyone working for an agency without funding is not getting paid till this is over, even if it takes months. That includes DHS which is the Border Patrol and ICE. After their next check it will also include the Coast Guard.

Everyone still working for these agencies will not see a paycheck till this is over. All your lies in the world will not change that fact

Department of State
Department of the Treasury
Department of Justice
Most of the Department of the Interior
Department of Agriculture
Department of Commerce
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Department of Transportation
Department of Homeland Security
Judicial Branch

Yet they will all be paid, save a 3% deemed non-essential.

I get it, government is your god, the idea that someone would put the brakes on outrages a Marxist like you.

The 3% number is bull shit and none of them, whether they are working or not will get paid till the shutdown is over.

If some of these federal employees need money, why don't they go out and Uber.

Uber drivers earn about $80,000 a year, they should be able to scrape up enough scratch to survive, even if the shutdown lasts a whole year.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You're still lying, as Marxists always do.

The only ones who are going without pay are the non-essential workers, tour guides, parking attendants, and the like.

I get it, government is your god, the idea that there could be any sort of disruption to the voracious growth of government angers a Marxist like you. So you lie, or at least repeat the lies of the little Goebbels of the party press.

Fact, about 3% of the federal workforce is furloughed, despite the lying attempts by you and other Marxists to make it seem as if this "shutdown" has any meaning to the average person.

Why do you keep lying and throwing out hat bullshit 3% figure?

roughly 800,000 are furloughed.

everyone working for an agency without funding is not getting paid till this is over, even if it takes months. That includes DHS which is the Border Patrol and ICE. After their next check it will also include the Coast Guard.

Everyone still working for these agencies will not see a paycheck till this is over. All your lies in the world will not change that fact

Department of State
Department of the Treasury
Department of Justice
Most of the Department of the Interior
Department of Agriculture
Department of Commerce
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Department of Transportation
Department of Homeland Security
Judicial Branch

Yet they will all be paid, save a 3% deemed non-essential.

I get it, government is your god, the idea that someone would put the brakes on outrages a Marxist like you.

The 3% number is bull shit and none of them, whether they are working or not will get paid till the shutdown is over.

Your beloved government "workers" won't lose a dime, Comrade.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

If some of these federal employees need money, why don't they go out and Uber.

Uber drivers earn about $80,000 a year, they should be able to scrape up enough scratch to survive, even if the shutdown lasts a whole year.

Do you never get tired of making up bullshit and posting it on the internet?

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/uber-driver-salary-SRCH_KO0,11.htm

Here’s how much Uber drivers really make

Uber drivers make an average of $364 a month and a median of $155 a month driving for the ride-sharing company, according to the analysis. The average Uber driver in New York City takes home $25 an hour after commission and sales tax, Uber said in 2014.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You're still lying, as Marxists always do.

The only ones who are going without pay are the non-essential workers, tour guides, parking attendants, and the like.

I get it, government is your god, the idea that there could be any sort of disruption to the voracious growth of government angers a Marxist like you. So you lie, or at least repeat the lies of the little Goebbels of the party press.

Fact, about 3% of the federal workforce is furloughed, despite the lying attempts by you and other Marxists to make it seem as if this "shutdown" has any meaning to the average person.

Why do you keep lying and throwing out hat bullshit 3% figure?

roughly 800,000 are furloughed.

everyone working for an agency without funding is not getting paid till this is over, even if it takes months. That includes DHS which is the Border Patrol and ICE. After their next check it will also include the Coast Guard.

Everyone still working for these agencies will not see a paycheck till this is over. All your lies in the world will not change that fact

Department of State
Department of the Treasury
Department of Justice
Most of the Department of the Interior
Department of Agriculture
Department of Commerce
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Department of Transportation
Department of Homeland Security
Judicial Branch

Yet they will all be paid, save a 3% deemed non-essential.

I get it, government is your god, the idea that someone would put the brakes on outrages a Marxist like you.

The 3% number is bull shit and none of them, whether they are working or not will get paid till the shutdown is over.

Your beloved government "workers" won't lose a dime, Comrade.

Thank you for admitting you were just spouting a made up number and had no clue what you were talking about.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You're still lying, as Marxists always do.

The only ones who are going without pay are the non-essential workers, tour guides, parking attendants, and the like.

I get it, government is your god, the idea that there could be any sort of disruption to the voracious growth of government angers a Marxist like you. So you lie, or at least repeat the lies of the little Goebbels of the party press.

Fact, about 3% of the federal workforce is furloughed, despite the lying attempts by you and other Marxists to make it seem as if this "shutdown" has any meaning to the average person.

Why do you keep lying and throwing out hat bullshit 3% figure?

roughly 800,000 are furloughed.

everyone working for an agency without funding is not getting paid till this is over, even if it takes months. That includes DHS which is the Border Patrol and ICE. After their next check it will also include the Coast Guard.

Everyone still working for these agencies will not see a paycheck till this is over. All your lies in the world will not change that fact

Department of State
Department of the Treasury
Department of Justice
Most of the Department of the Interior
Department of Agriculture
Department of Commerce
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Department of Transportation
Department of Homeland Security
Judicial Branch

Yet they will all be paid, save a 3% deemed non-essential.

I get it, government is your god, the idea that someone would put the brakes on outrages a Marxist like you.

The 3% number is bull shit and none of them, whether they are working or not will get paid till the shutdown is over.

If some of these federal employees need money, why don't they go out and Uber.

Uber drivers earn about $80,000 a year, they should be able to scrape up enough scratch to survive, even if the shutdown lasts a whole year.

Uber is the private sector. Stalinists like Golfing Gator are appalled that there even IS a private sector, they would never want the purity of government to be tarnished by union clerks working an actual job,,,

 

[Uncensored2008]

You're still lying, as Marxists always do.

The only ones who are going without pay are the non-essential workers, tour guides, parking attendants, and the like.

I get it, government is your god, the idea that there could be any sort of disruption to the voracious growth of government angers a Marxist like you. So you lie, or at least repeat the lies of the little Goebbels of the party press.

Fact, about 3% of the federal workforce is furloughed, despite the lying attempts by you and other Marxists to make it seem as if this "shutdown" has any meaning to the average person.

Why do you keep lying and throwing out hat bullshit 3% figure?

roughly 800,000 are furloughed.

everyone working for an agency without funding is not getting paid till this is over, even if it takes months. That includes DHS which is the Border Patrol and ICE. After their next check it will also include the Coast Guard.

Everyone still working for these agencies will not see a paycheck till this is over. All your lies in the world will not change that fact

Department of State
Department of the Treasury
Department of Justice
Most of the Department of the Interior
Department of Agriculture
Department of Commerce
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Department of Transportation
Department of Homeland Security
Judicial Branch

Yet they will all be paid, save a 3% deemed non-essential.

I get it, government is your god, the idea that someone would put the brakes on outrages a Marxist like you.

The 3% number is bull shit and none of them, whether they are working or not will get paid till the shutdown is over.

Your beloved government "workers" won't lose a dime, Comrade.

Thank you for admitting you were just spouting a made up number and had no clue what you were talking about.

Thank you for making shit up and again showing what a complete fool you are..

Seriously comrade, quit while your WAYYYYY behind.....

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You're still lying, as Marxists always do.

The only ones who are going without pay are the non-essential workers, tour guides, parking attendants, and the like.

I get it, government is your god, the idea that there could be any sort of disruption to the voracious growth of government angers a Marxist like you. So you lie, or at least repeat the lies of the little Goebbels of the party press.

Fact, about 3% of the federal workforce is furloughed, despite the lying attempts by you and other Marxists to make it seem as if this "shutdown" has any meaning to the average person.

Why do you keep lying and throwing out hat bullshit 3% figure?

roughly 800,000 are furloughed.

everyone working for an agency without funding is not getting paid till this is over, even if it takes months. That includes DHS which is the Border Patrol and ICE. After their next check it will also include the Coast Guard.

Everyone still working for these agencies will not see a paycheck till this is over. All your lies in the world will not change that fact

Department of State
Department of the Treasury
Department of Justice
Most of the Department of the Interior
Department of Agriculture
Department of Commerce
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Department of Transportation
Department of Homeland Security
Judicial Branch

Yet they will all be paid, save a 3% deemed non-essential.

I get it, government is your god, the idea that someone would put the brakes on outrages a Marxist like you.

The 3% number is bull shit and none of them, whether they are working or not will get paid till the shutdown is over.

If some of these federal employees need money, why don't they go out and Uber.

Uber drivers earn about $80,000 a year, they should be able to scrape up enough scratch to survive, even if the shutdown lasts a whole year.

Uber is the private sector. Stalinists like Golfing Gator are appalled that there even IS a private sector, they would never want the purity of government to be tarnished by union clerks working an actual job,,,

I love the fact that I live in your head and you cannot quit talking about me.

What a pathetic little life you must have

 

[skookerasbil]

Nobody caring about the shutdown.....at this point, it's basically a non- story for 95% of Americans.

Only people who care are your CNN viewers....maybe 2 million max.

Nobody cares.....

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, if I was running a terrorist cell, right now would be one of the better times to plan and stage an attack.

Why? Simple.......................the TSA is still expected to work, even though they won't get paid until the government reopens. And, because of that, a lot of them have started to call in sick because they don't want to work for free, resulting in overworked TSA agents who do show up to work, meaning that they might miss something important.

Same thing with the Border Patrol. They also are working for free until the government reopens.

 

[Polishprince]

You know, if I was running a terrorist cell, right now would be one of the better times to plan and stage an attack.

Why? Simple.......................the TSA is still expected to work, even though they won't get paid until the government reopens. And, because of that, a lot of them have started to call in sick because they don't want to work for free, resulting in overworked TSA agents who do show up to work, meaning that they might miss something important.

Same thing with the Border Patrol. They also are working for free until the government reopens.

Good point, maybe Chuck and Nancy need to consider this and think about bending a knee to their President on this?

President Trump has made it crystal clear that a budget without a wall is a non-starter.

They should at least let their members vote their own consciences instead of trying to force their political will on them.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, if I was running a terrorist cell, right now would be one of the better times to plan and stage an attack.

Why? Simple.......................the TSA is still expected to work, even though they won't get paid until the government reopens. And, because of that, a lot of them have started to call in sick because they don't want to work for free, resulting in overworked TSA agents who do show up to work, meaning that they might miss something important.

Same thing with the Border Patrol. They also are working for free until the government reopens.

Good point, maybe Chuck and Nancy need to consider this and think about bending a knee to their President on this?

President Trump has made it crystal clear that a budget without a wall is a non-starter.

They should at least let their members vote their own consciences instead of trying to force their political will on them.

Quick question.......................how exactly is a wall going to stop terrorists? You do realize that out of the almost 4,000 people who were stopped because they were on a terrorist watch list, only SIX of them tried to cross on the southern border? The rest of them came in via airlines.

But, the larger numbers sound scarier, and it gives Trump what he considers as justification for the wall.

The Trump administration’s misleading spin on immigration, crime and terrorism - The Washington Post

 

[Polishprince]

You know, if I was running a terrorist cell, right now would be one of the better times to plan and stage an attack.

Why? Simple.......................the TSA is still expected to work, even though they won't get paid until the government reopens. And, because of that, a lot of them have started to call in sick because they don't want to work for free, resulting in overworked TSA agents who do show up to work, meaning that they might miss something important.

Same thing with the Border Patrol. They also are working for free until the government reopens.

Good point, maybe Chuck and Nancy need to consider this and think about bending a knee to their President on this?

President Trump has made it crystal clear that a budget without a wall is a non-starter.

They should at least let their members vote their own consciences instead of trying to force their political will on them.

Quick question.......................how exactly is a wall going to stop terrorists? You do realize that out of the almost 4,000 people who were stopped because they were on a terrorist watch list, only SIX of them tried to cross on the southern border? The rest of them came in via airlines.

But, the larger numbers sound scarier, and it gives Trump what he considers as justification for the wall.

The Trump administration’s misleading spin on immigration, crime and terrorism - The Washington Post

Its not just to stop terrorists, although that's part of it.

There are gangsters, human traffickers, DUI guys, cop shooters, guys like Mr. Zarate who slaughtered that broad in San Francisco, etc.

Not to mention the huge amount of narcotics flowing over the border, as well as diseases. Folks who are at the border report that all kinds of terrible plagues are coming in on the back of migrants.

The wall wouldn't stop everyone, but it would stop some. And if the wall was already up , perhaps Officer Singh would still be on the job.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, if I was running a terrorist cell, right now would be one of the better times to plan and stage an attack.

Why? Simple.......................the TSA is still expected to work, even though they won't get paid until the government reopens. And, because of that, a lot of them have started to call in sick because they don't want to work for free, resulting in overworked TSA agents who do show up to work, meaning that they might miss something important.

Same thing with the Border Patrol. They also are working for free until the government reopens.

Good point, maybe Chuck and Nancy need to consider this and think about bending a knee to their President on this?

President Trump has made it crystal clear that a budget without a wall is a non-starter.

They should at least let their members vote their own consciences instead of trying to force their political will on them.

Quick question.......................how exactly is a wall going to stop terrorists? You do realize that out of the almost 4,000 people who were stopped because they were on a terrorist watch list, only SIX of them tried to cross on the southern border? The rest of them came in via airlines.

But, the larger numbers sound scarier, and it gives Trump what he considers as justification for the wall.

The Trump administration’s misleading spin on immigration, crime and terrorism - The Washington Post

Its not just to stop terrorists, although that's part of it.

There are gangsters, human traffickers, DUI guys, cop shooters, guys like Mr. Zarate who slaughtered that broad in San Francisco, etc.

Not to mention the huge amount of narcotics flowing over the border, as well as diseases. Folks who are at the border report that all kinds of terrible plagues are coming in on the back of migrants.

The wall wouldn't stop everyone, but it would stop some. And if the wall was already up , perhaps Officer Singh would still be on the job.

Got a link for your claims that terrible plagues are coming in on the back of the migrants?

 

[Polishprince]

You know, if I was running a terrorist cell, right now would be one of the better times to plan and stage an attack.

Why? Simple.......................the TSA is still expected to work, even though they won't get paid until the government reopens. And, because of that, a lot of them have started to call in sick because they don't want to work for free, resulting in overworked TSA agents who do show up to work, meaning that they might miss something important.

Same thing with the Border Patrol. They also are working for free until the government reopens.

Good point, maybe Chuck and Nancy need to consider this and think about bending a knee to their President on this?

President Trump has made it crystal clear that a budget without a wall is a non-starter.

They should at least let their members vote their own consciences instead of trying to force their political will on them.

Quick question.......................how exactly is a wall going to stop terrorists? You do realize that out of the almost 4,000 people who were stopped because they were on a terrorist watch list, only SIX of them tried to cross on the southern border? The rest of them came in via airlines.

But, the larger numbers sound scarier, and it gives Trump what he considers as justification for the wall.

The Trump administration’s misleading spin on immigration, crime and terrorism - The Washington Post

Its not just to stop terrorists, although that's part of it.

There are gangsters, human traffickers, DUI guys, cop shooters, guys like Mr. Zarate who slaughtered that broad in San Francisco, etc.

Not to mention the huge amount of narcotics flowing over the border, as well as diseases. Folks who are at the border report that all kinds of terrible plagues are coming in on the back of migrants.

The wall wouldn't stop everyone, but it would stop some. And if the wall was already up , perhaps Officer Singh would still be on the job.

Got a link for your claims that terrible plagues are coming in on the back of the migrants?

Open Borders Bring a Higher Risk of Disease




I don't know if you realize it or not, but when LEGAL folks take the proper route to come to this country, they are required to have an extensive physical examination. Undocumented EIB substitute host Mark Steyn was tested for hundreds of diseases. Illegals aren't checked at all at the border,

 

[Rocko]

Lol it’s not going to last years