Should The Rich Be Required To Pay Higher Taxes In the US?

[hadit]

You're not going to get it, because your masters in the DNC don't want you to have it. Here's a clue for the terminally dumb. They SELL influence, and you fall for the fiction that they're mad at the other guys for selling influence. Useful indeed to them you are.

Weird, so the Dems putting forward reform bills meant what Bubs?

That they knew the bills would go nowhere and they never intended for them to become law, Cletus. Those with an IQ above room temperature understand that.

Weird, I thought SCOTUS said what the Dems passed and the GOP took to them to court on, CIT UNITED, was a start? Sadly I guess I was wrong, the Dems don't REALLY want to have reform, lol

No, they really don't. Republicans wanted, for example, to have greater oversight and regulation on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Remember that? Democrats shut it down. So, you can pull bits and pieces here and there, but they don't eliminate the overall love of Big Business Money democrats have.

Oh right, in right wing "reality", Dems SAYING that GOP's plan to destroy F/F during the ACCOUNTING scandals of 2003-2004 GOP HOUSE HEARING WHERE DEMS COULD STOP NOT A SINGLE BILL THE GOP WANTED TO PASS, means the Dems had some super powers to stop Dubya's hosing of F/F later on as HE WAS THE REGULATOR?


BITS AND PIECES HUH? LOL

Bush talked about reform. He talked and he talked. And then he stopped reform. (read that as many times as necessary. Bush stopped reform). And then he stopped it again

Testimony from Dubya's s Treasury Secretary John Snow to the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS concerning the 'regulations' of the GSE's 2004

Mr. BARNEY Frank: ...Are we in a crisis now with these entities?

Secretary Snow. No, that is a fair characterization, Congressman Frank, of our position. We are not putting this proposal before you because of some concern over some imminent danger to the financial system for housing; far from it.

OOPS ANOTHER MEME BUSTED

Yeah, Dems supported reform, GOP OPPOSE IT. FACTS BUBBA, TRY IT!

You seem to forget the Senate, where democrats stopped McCain's bill to prevent GSEs from speculating on the mortgage-based securities they packaged. Like I said, you can dig up crumbs, but that doesn't change reality.

 

[hadit]

We dont have the healthcare system (single payer) the Left wants, the tax rates the Left wants, the regulations the Left wants, the energy polcy the Left wants, .............................NOTHING the left-wingers here crying want;

but they're still bragging how great we are doing

consider that when debating these pathetic people

Their vision, agenda and methodology in America is creeping socialism. In lucid moments they know they can't sell the whole package at once but they are always pushing it. The end game is their "Worker's Paradise."

No Bubba, that's the rights goal, with the oversight by the 1/10th of 1% who you get on your knees for though!

The millionaire democrats in government like it that way. You seem to think they're actually trying to stop it. So useful.

 

[dcraelin]

If you simplified the tax system then there would be less IRS agents needed, less Tax Accountants, and more people on unemployment. One reason why the left doesn't want Tax simplification, is then they don't have a Lois Lerner, going after conservative pac, or other ways to stifle opposition voices. So we will continue to see an unjust tax system that punishes those that have worked hard, and reward those that sit back, in their parents basement, typing on plastic made from OIL, and bitching about the country, that they wish wasn't here.

we could really simplify the tax code for most people by eliminating the personal income tax altogether. Just tax corporations and businesses. Have a standard deduction for any full time employee.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

If you simplified the tax system then there would be less IRS agents needed, less Tax Accountants, and more people on unemployment. One reason why the left doesn't want Tax simplification, is then they don't have a Lois Lerner, going after conservative pac, or other ways to stifle opposition voices. So we will continue to see an unjust tax system that punishes those that have worked hard, and reward those that sit back, in their parents basement, typing on plastic made from OIL, and bitching about the country, that they wish wasn't here.

we could really simplify the tax code for most people by eliminating the personal income tax altogether. Just tax corporations and businesses. Have a standard deduction for any full time employee.

I guess you don't know that if you tax corporations and businesses, those taxes are passed onto US, so we end up paying that tax anyway? No Duh. How about a sales tax, so if a person buys a $10,000,000 boat, that person has to pay $1,000,000. If someone buys a 10 dollar shirt, he/she pays a dollar in tax? Very simple, and the government would be flooded in tax revenue. But we need to do away with welfare, because it always seems that Social Security is going to go bankrupt, but Welfare never does. If you get rid of welfare, then more people would have to work, being paid, which in turn they pay social security tax, which then in turns makes SS solvent.

 

[dcraelin]

If you simplified the tax system then there would be less IRS agents needed, less Tax Accountants, and more people on unemployment. One reason why the left doesn't want Tax simplification, is then they don't have a Lois Lerner, going after conservative pac, or other ways to stifle opposition voices. So we will continue to see an unjust tax system that punishes those that have worked hard, and reward those that sit back, in their parents basement, typing on plastic made from OIL, and bitching about the country, that they wish wasn't here.

we could really simplify the tax code for most people by eliminating the personal income tax altogether. Just tax corporations and businesses. Have a standard deduction for any full time employee.

I guess you don't know that if you tax corporations and businesses, those taxes are passed onto US, so we end up paying that tax anyway? No Duh. How about a sales tax, so if a person buys a $10,000,000 boat, that person has to pay $1,000,000. If someone buys a 10 dollar shirt, he/she pays a dollar in tax? Very simple, and the government would be flooded in tax revenue. But we need to do away with welfare, because it always seems that Social Security is going to go bankrupt, but Welfare never does. If you get rid of welfare, then more people would have to work, being paid, which in turn they pay social security tax, which then in turns makes SS solvent.

well that is your assertion, that it is passed through, but even if you're correct, so what?? The goal was simplification. My proposal does accomplish that for many many americans.

Sales taxes can be gummed up with exemptions and loopholes like any other tax....states that rely mainly on sales taxes prove that. Sales taxes are rather easily shirked too. and they hurt the lower income proportionately more.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

So you don't believe in "technology". Sales tax cannot be shirked as every item purchased has to have a receipt whether it is a business buying or a customer buying. Isnt that hard to figure that out, also, how can lower income be hurt more when they don't buy as much, so pay less in taxes, while those who buy more pay more in taxes. Typical of a liberal to FAIL at math. Go back to school and learn economics, you might be able to understand how economies work then.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

So you don't believe in "technology". Sales tax cannot be shirked as every item purchased has to have a receipt whether it is a business buying or a customer buying. Isnt that hard to figure that out, also, how can lower income be hurt more when they don't buy as much, so pay less in taxes, while those who buy more pay more in taxes. Typical of a liberal to FAIL at math. Go back to school and learn economics, you might be able to understand how economies work then.

Also the politicians who get FREE, gas and food while they are working, would no longer get FREE stuff, as they would have to buy their own. Start at the top for corruption(eliminate it) and pretty soon, America is back to the land of the free.

 

[Sallow]

Short answer - Yes.
Long Answer - The obscenely wealthy should pay more for everything. From traffic violations to a luxury tax.

 

[dcraelin]

So you don't believe in "technology". Sales tax cannot be shirked as every item purchased has to have a receipt whether it is a business buying or a customer buying. Isnt that hard to figure that out, also, how can lower income be hurt more when they don't buy as much, so pay less in taxes, while those who buy more pay more in taxes. Typical of a liberal to FAIL at math. Go back to school and learn economics, you might be able to understand how economies work then.

whos to say a receipt cant be faked, or ignored, or unreported etc etc.

Accepted by most economists that sales taxes hurt lower income disproportionately as the rich put more money away in banking accounts, retirement accounts investments.

also sales taxes are somewhat hidden, no one pays much attention to how much they pay...it could actually be a goad to grow government.....which has arguably been the case in Europe where a modified sales tax is the main funder of most governments.

 

[Dad2three]

Mr. BARNEY Frank: ...Are we in a crisis now with these entities?

Secretary Snow. No, that is a fair characterization, Congressman Frank, of our position. We are not putting this proposal before you because of some concern over some imminent danger to the financial system for housing; far from it.

OOPS ANOTHER MEME BUSTED

which only means they didnt foresee a complete collapse and a bubble bursting AS IT DID.

THAT DOESNT PROVE REPUBS DIDNT TRY TO DO SOMETHING

it proves REPUBS DID TRY, and it still actually shows WHAT THE POSTER SAID TO BEGIN WITH; that conserns in the housing market WERE BROUGHT UP BY REPUBLICANS; and DOWNPLAYED BY DEMOCRATS

SINCE WHEN IS THE TREASURY SEC OF DUBYA A "DEM" BUBBA?

WHEN DID DUBYA TURN INTO A DEM?

Bush talked about reform. He talked and he talked. And then he stopped reform. (read that as many times as necessary. Bush stopped reform). And then he stopped it again



Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


STATEMENT OF ADMINISTRATION POLICY

The Administration strongly believes that the housing GSEs should be focused on their core housing mission, particularly with respect to low-income Americans and first-time homebuyers. Instead, provisions of H.R. 1461 that expand mortgage purchasing authority would lessen the housing GSEs' commitment to low-income homebuyers.

George W. Bush: Statement of Administration Policy: H.R. 1461 - Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2005

Yes, he said he was against it because it "would lessen the housing GSEs' commitment to low-income homebuyers"


June 17, 2004

(CNN/Money) - Home builders, realtors and others are preparing to fight a Bush administration plan that would require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase financing of homes for low-income people, a home builder group said Thursday.


Home builders fight Bush's low-income housing - Jun. 17, 2004



DUBYA FORCED F/F TO PURCHASE $440 BILION IN MBS'S 2003-2008, DUBYA CHANGED(2004) CLINTON RULE THAT FORBID ALLOWING SUBPRIMES TO COUNT TOWARDS SUBPRIME GOALS AND THEN UPPED THEIR GOALS FROM 50% TO 56% (2004)

Yeah, i can see how it's the MINORITY MEMBERS OF HOUSE WHO WERE TO BLAME *SHAKING HEAD*


Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”

WEIRD ALL THAT STUFF DUBYA/GOP DID AFTER THE 2003-2004 F/F ACCOUNTING SCANDALS THE VIDS ARE FROM?? LOL

 

[dblack]

Mr. BARNEY Frank: ...Are we in a crisis now with these entities?

Secretary Snow. No, that is a fair characterization, Congressman Frank, of our position. We are not putting this proposal before you because of some concern over some imminent danger to the financial system for housing; far from it.

OOPS ANOTHER MEME BUSTED

which only means they didnt foresee a complete collapse and a bubble bursting AS IT DID.

THAT DOESNT PROVE REPUBS DIDNT TRY TO DO SOMETHING

it proves REPUBS DID TRY, and it still actually shows WHAT THE POSTER SAID TO BEGIN WITH; that conserns in the housing market WERE BROUGHT UP BY REPUBLICANS; and DOWNPLAYED BY DEMOCRATS

SINCE WHEN IS THE TREASURY SEC OF DUBYA A "DEM" BUBBA?

WHEN DID DUBYA TURN INTO A DEM?

Bush talked about reform. He talked and he talked. And then he stopped reform. (read that as many times as necessary. Bush stopped reform). And then he stopped it again



Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


STATEMENT OF ADMINISTRATION POLICY

The Administration strongly believes that the housing GSEs should be focused on their core housing mission, particularly with respect to low-income Americans and first-time homebuyers. Instead, provisions of H.R. 1461 that expand mortgage purchasing authority would lessen the housing GSEs' commitment to low-income homebuyers.

George W. Bush: Statement of Administration Policy: H.R. 1461 - Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2005

Yes, he said he was against it because it "would lessen the housing GSEs' commitment to low-income homebuyers"


June 17, 2004

(CNN/Money) - Home builders, realtors and others are preparing to fight a Bush administration plan that would require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase financing of homes for low-income people, a home builder group said Thursday.


Home builders fight Bush's low-income housing - Jun. 17, 2004



DUBYA FORCED F/F TO PURCHASE $440 BILION IN MBS'S 2003-2008, DUBYA CHANGED(2004) CLINTON RULE THAT FORBID ALLOWING SUBPRIMES TO COUNT TOWARDS SUBPRIME GOALS AND THEN UPPED THEIR GOALS FROM 50% TO 56% (2004)

Yeah, i can see how it's the MINORITY MEMBERS OF HOUSE WHO WERE TO BLAME *SHAKING HEAD*


Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”

WEIRD ALL THAT STUFF DUBYA/GOP DID AFTER THE 2003-2004 F/F ACCOUNTING SCANDALS THE VIDS ARE FROM?? LOL

I really appreciate that your posts are consistently formatted, approximately the same length and, most importantly, easy to identify at a glance.

 

[Dad2three]

Barney Frank said " THERE'S NOTHING WRONG AT FANNIE MAE"
which is of course a whole different thing than Snow saying he didnt see an "imminent danger to the financial system". one is saying "NOTHING IS WRONG", THE OTHER IS SAYING THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG.

you lose again Dad2; you just keep proving left-wingers are never man enough to admit their are wron; or their leaders were wrong

Weird, Barney saying during the F/F ACCOUNTING scandal of 2003-2004 there was nothing wrong with F/F like there was nothing wrong with AIG, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns (HINT THREE OF THOSE WERE GONE BY 2010M, 2 OTHERS CHANGED CHARTERS!!!) , WAMU, AND DOZENS OF OTHER BANKS


OH RIGHT, DUBYA'S SUBPRIME BUBBLE HADN'T YET STARTED AND DUBYA'S POLICIES THAT HOSE F/F HADN'T GONE FULL APESHIT CRAZY YET

President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”

I

 

[Dad2three]

bedowin, you are talking to idiots who think we tax wealth assets in America.

YOU'VE already been proved a liar about that in this thread dumbass! lol

 

[OnePercenter]

He has no competition in his imagination.
That also explains his illegally low tax rate.

I have competition. I use their weaknesses to promote my business.

Again, nobody pays tax rates, not even you.

i pay taxes at a certain rate.

And what is your 'certain rate?' Federal Tax Paid ÷ Total Income =

 

[Dad2three]

Weird, so the Dems putting forward reform bills meant what Bubs?

That they knew the bills would go nowhere and they never intended for them to become law, Cletus. Those with an IQ above room temperature understand that.

Weird, I thought SCOTUS said what the Dems passed and the GOP took to them to court on, CIT UNITED, was a start? Sadly I guess I was wrong, the Dems don't REALLY want to have reform, lol

No, they really don't. Republicans wanted, for example, to have greater oversight and regulation on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Remember that? Democrats shut it down. So, you can pull bits and pieces here and there, but they don't eliminate the overall love of Big Business Money democrats have.

Oh right, in right wing "reality", Dems SAYING that GOP's plan to destroy F/F during the ACCOUNTING scandals of 2003-2004 GOP HOUSE HEARING WHERE DEMS COULD STOP NOT A SINGLE BILL THE GOP WANTED TO PASS, means the Dems had some super powers to stop Dubya's hosing of F/F later on as HE WAS THE REGULATOR?


BITS AND PIECES HUH? LOL

Bush talked about reform. He talked and he talked. And then he stopped reform. (read that as many times as necessary. Bush stopped reform). And then he stopped it again

Testimony from Dubya's s Treasury Secretary John Snow to the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS concerning the 'regulations' of the GSE's 2004

Mr. BARNEY Frank: ...Are we in a crisis now with these entities?

Secretary Snow. No, that is a fair characterization, Congressman Frank, of our position. We are not putting this proposal before you because of some concern over some imminent danger to the financial system for housing; far from it.

OOPS ANOTHER MEME BUSTED

Yeah, Dems supported reform, GOP OPPOSE IT. FACTS BUBBA, TRY IT!

You seem to forget the Senate, where democrats stopped McCain's bill to prevent GSEs from speculating on the mortgage-based securities they packaged. Like I said, you can dig up crumbs, but that doesn't change reality.

MCCAINS BILL? Oh that bill he signed onto 5 months AFTER it just died on the Senate floor BECAUSE THE GOP couldn't get SENATE LEADER (R)Bill Frist to bring it up for a vote?


Weird, there was BIPARTISAN SUPPORT IN THE BILL THE DEMS GOT PASSED WITH GOP SUPPORT IN THE HOUSE THE SAME YEAR AS "MCSAMES BILL" BUBBA, WHAT HAPPENED?


Freddie Mac secretly paid a Republican consulting firm $2 million to kill legislation that would have regulated and trimmed the mortgage finance giant and its sister company, Fannie Mae, three years before the government took control to prevent their collapse.

In the cross hairs of the campaign carried out by DCI of Washington were Republican senators and a regulatory overhaul bill sponsored by Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. DCI's chief executive is Doug Goodyear, whom John McCain's campaign later hired to manage the GOP convention in September.

Freddie Mac's payments to DCI began shortly after the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee sent Hagel's bill to the then GOP-run Senate on July 28, 2005



Unknown to the senators, DCI was undermining support for the bill in a campaign targeting 17 Republican senators in 13 states, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press. The states and the senators targeted changed over time, but always stayed on the Republican side.

In the end, there was not enough Republican support for Hagel's bill to warrant bringing it up for a vote because Democrats also opposed it and the votes of some would be needed for passage. The measure died at the end of the 109th Congress.

Freddie Mac Tried to Kill Republican Regulatory Bill in 2005 | Fox News

WEIRD, DEMS SIGN ONTO A REFORM BILL IN THE HOUSE, BUT THE SENATE HAD A DIFFERENT "REFORM" OF F/F IN MIND, BUT IT WAS THE DEMS FAULT REFORM WAS BLOCKED BY THE GOP??? SERIOUSLY??

 

[OnePercenter]

If businesses don't pay taxes why do cities / states offer them tax breaks to move there?

If businesses don't pay taxes why do they care how much they are taxed? According to you they don't pay it anyway.

If businesses don't pay taxes why do they pay armies of lobbiests to get their tax rates cut?

If businesses don't pay taxes why do they pay armies of tax accountants to jigger their numbers and get them the lowest tax possible?

BUSINESSES DO PAY TAXES AND THEY COME OUT OF THE PROFITS THAT CAN BE DISTRIBUTED TO SHAREHOLDERS ( although hardly any business actually pays dividends anymore --- they prefer to hold massive amounts of cash in offshore banks ).

==============

Nobody pays tax rates. Not even you.

Perhaps in the same sense that "time doesn't exist" because the past doesn't exist anymore, the future doesn't exist yet and the present takes no amount of time? Or... in the sense that "reality" doesn't exist... only the illusion we perceive as reality?

I've argued with liberals before about this and made the very same point... Businesses don't pay tax... the consumer pays the tax. They don't seem to comprehend that concept.

If businesses don't pay taxes why do cities / states offer them tax breaks to move there?

To increase jobs and bring in additional sales tax revenue.

 

[Dad2three]

We dont have the healthcare system (single payer) the Left wants, the tax rates the Left wants, the regulations the Left wants, the energy polcy the Left wants, .............................NOTHING the left-wingers here crying want;

but they're still bragging how great we are doing

consider that when debating these pathetic people

Their vision, agenda and methodology in America is creeping socialism. In lucid moments they know they can't sell the whole package at once but they are always pushing it. The end game is their "Worker's Paradise."

No Bubba, that's the rights goal, with the oversight by the 1/10th of 1% who you get on your knees for though!

The millionaire democrats in government like it that way. You seem to think they're actually trying to stop it. So useful.

YET THEY ARE THE ONES WHO GOT CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM THROUGH CONGRESS THE GOP FOUGHT AND STOPPED AND THE GOP FIGHT BUFFET RULE OF MIN 30% FED EFFECTIVE TAX. Go figure it's the "Dems" blocking it, lol

 

[Dad2three]

Mr. BARNEY Frank: ...Are we in a crisis now with these entities?

Secretary Snow. No, that is a fair characterization, Congressman Frank, of our position. We are not putting this proposal before you because of some concern over some imminent danger to the financial system for housing; far from it.

OOPS ANOTHER MEME BUSTED

which only means they didnt foresee a complete collapse and a bubble bursting AS IT DID.

THAT DOESNT PROVE REPUBS DIDNT TRY TO DO SOMETHING

it proves REPUBS DID TRY, and it still actually shows WHAT THE POSTER SAID TO BEGIN WITH; that conserns in the housing market WERE BROUGHT UP BY REPUBLICANS; and DOWNPLAYED BY DEMOCRATS

SINCE WHEN IS THE TREASURY SEC OF DUBYA A "DEM" BUBBA?

WHEN DID DUBYA TURN INTO A DEM?

Bush talked about reform. He talked and he talked. And then he stopped reform. (read that as many times as necessary. Bush stopped reform). And then he stopped it again



Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


STATEMENT OF ADMINISTRATION POLICY

The Administration strongly believes that the housing GSEs should be focused on their core housing mission, particularly with respect to low-income Americans and first-time homebuyers. Instead, provisions of H.R. 1461 that expand mortgage purchasing authority would lessen the housing GSEs' commitment to low-income homebuyers.

George W. Bush: Statement of Administration Policy: H.R. 1461 - Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2005

Yes, he said he was against it because it "would lessen the housing GSEs' commitment to low-income homebuyers"


June 17, 2004

(CNN/Money) - Home builders, realtors and others are preparing to fight a Bush administration plan that would require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase financing of homes for low-income people, a home builder group said Thursday.


Home builders fight Bush's low-income housing - Jun. 17, 2004



DUBYA FORCED F/F TO PURCHASE $440 BILION IN MBS'S 2003-2008, DUBYA CHANGED(2004) CLINTON RULE THAT FORBID ALLOWING SUBPRIMES TO COUNT TOWARDS SUBPRIME GOALS AND THEN UPPED THEIR GOALS FROM 50% TO 56% (2004)

Yeah, i can see how it's the MINORITY MEMBERS OF HOUSE WHO WERE TO BLAME *SHAKING HEAD*


Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”

WEIRD ALL THAT STUFF DUBYA/GOP DID AFTER THE 2003-2004 F/F ACCOUNTING SCANDALS THE VIDS ARE FROM?? LOL

I really appreciate that your posts are consistently formatted, approximately the same length and, most importantly, easy to identify at a glance.

Your not being able to refute them is noted Bubs

 

[OnePercenter]

The lobbiests for business paid their lackeys in Congress to insert that one word " knowingly " in the law against hiring illegal aliens.

It makes it almost impossible to prove they " knowingly " hired the illegal.
Especially when the illegal presents forged documents that you can buy on the street in any major city --- they have a Social Security card and a Drivers License and a Birth Certificate often on original paper from the department that supposedly issued them. Crooked people in the government steal the paper and sell it to the forgers.

Until we get that one word removed the law will be WORTHLESS.

That one word is a Get Out Of Jail Free card to employers of illegal aliens.

================

Bush Administration Report Found That Immigration Adds $37 Billion To The U.S. Economy Annually.

Excellent! Losing $37 billion in GDP is a small price to pay.
Build a wall, deport the illegals.

Fine employers $1M and jail time of ten years for every illegal they knowingly hire. Does the same thing and you don't spend for building.

How do we do that when liberals whine and moan over rights to privacy and anything that could resemble "profiling" in the workplace? So do they ask Pedro for his green card because he looks Mexican or has a Hispanic last name? Do they require all Latinos to prove citizenship as a condition of employment? How exactly do we ensure companies can comply with the law?

So we impose a $10M fine and 20 years in jail for every illegal they knowingly hire-- as long as they can say they didn't know, what damn difference does it make?

If you were deceived after making an attempt to find the truth, how can you be responsible?

 

[Dad2three]

If you simplified the tax system then there would be less IRS agents needed, less Tax Accountants, and more people on unemployment. One reason why the left doesn't want Tax simplification, is then they don't have a Lois Lerner, going after conservative pac, or other ways to stifle opposition voices. So we will continue to see an unjust tax system that punishes those that have worked hard, and reward those that sit back, in their parents basement, typing on plastic made from OIL, and bitching about the country, that they wish wasn't here.

we could really simplify the tax code for most people by eliminating the personal income tax altogether. Just tax corporations and businesses. Have a standard deduction for any full time employee.

I guess you don't know that if you tax corporations and businesses, those taxes are passed onto US, so we end up paying that tax anyway? No Duh. How about a sales tax, so if a person buys a $10,000,000 boat, that person has to pay $1,000,000. If someone buys a 10 dollar shirt, he/she pays a dollar in tax? Very simple, and the government would be flooded in tax revenue. But we need to do away with welfare, because it always seems that Social Security is going to go bankrupt, but Welfare never does. If you get rid of welfare, then more people would have to work, being paid, which in turn they pay social security tax, which then in turns makes SS solvent.

Gawd another right wing moron who "believes" BS based on hate talk radio/Faux "News"


HINT EVERY ECONOMIST THAT'S CREDIBLE KNOWS ANY FLAT TAX IS REGRESSIVE (HITS THE POOR/MIDDLE CLASS) AND NO SERIOUS STUDIES SHOW EVEN THE "FAIR TAX" (30%) WOULD DO ANYTHING BUT COST THE US TREASURY HUNDREDS OF BILLION A YEAR IN LOST REVENUES!

GROW A FUKKN BRAIN!